₦airaland Forum

Dalohad:
Simple, to avoid Tinubu dipping his greedy hands into our pockets we have to improvise..

Cash, crypto and other means of payment will take priority.

I will never slave for Tinubu to come and take 25% of my wealth, after providing my own water, shelter, power and other essentials without one kobo of government support.

Tinubu is the Oil minister, he has monopolized Oil wealth for himself, politicians and corrupt Supreme court judges.

Yet they still want to keep pushing their luck too far by dipping their hands into our pockets like Agberoes working for MC Oluomo under Oshodi bridge.

They are emboldened everyday because Nigerians have become docile and sedentary. Like thieves and rogues, their appetite for free money extorted from Nigerians keep growing because Nigerians have refused to push back. Now they ask for your blood.

Libya as an oil country under Ghadaffi was giving 100% free education, buying houses for citizens, free water pumped by government, free power. Almost 0% taxes. Same with many other Arab countries..

Why must Nigeria's own be different? You take the oil money, provide nothing for generality of the people, yet you ask for their blood in taxes? Wetin dey give Tinubu mind sef? IMF? World Bank? France?

By next year, if Nigerians look for 1 kobo of the money in their accounts, the only choice is will be to go the NEPAL way.

Too many ignorant people in Nigeria!!!

DMerciful:
One person is they? What is holding Tinubu from implementing state police when almost all the governors have agreed?

Because, it would require constitutional ammendments

jpphilips:
State police didnt guarantee our security in the 60's, it led to a war, it wont guarantee it today because the sectional issues of the 60's still live with us today.
You cant be hoping that a Volvo will fly. Most people making the state police proposal didnt live through the 60's or simply just pushing their selfish interest forward. The same security the Western region also hoped for?

Military Coup of Jan-15,1966 with tribal colouration led to the civil war, not State Police.

You can advise your State Governments, not to participate but other States, that want it should get it.

jpphilips:
The funding is the least of the issues, its who we are as a people, have you been to the south east lately? imagine a northern or Yoruba trader in the south east, how on earth will he get justice from a state sponsored igbo dominated outfit like Ocha Brigade?
Its impossible, so see it this way, creating law enforcement that will be sectional in law enforcement is a defeated purpose?
Some folks breathing through the @rses of politicians will tell you, it will solve regional insecurity, thats a huge joke, look at herdsmen crisis the way we have politicised, tribalised the conflict even at central command level, do you expect an average hausa fellow heading Borno state police not to litter the place with his hausa brothers? do you expect him to send his Hausa brothers to die for the Kanuri boko haram?
The only reason CJTF succeeded was because they were under a centralized military and they recruited mostly from the Kanuris, truth is: Tribalism is a very big issue in this country and anyone that chooses to ignore it with a state police proposal is super ignorant.

You haven't proved anything wrong with State Police apart from the unfounded fear that non indigenes will not get Justice from it.
State Police can't detain anyone beyond 48hrs and if one is not satisfied, he can appeal the handling of the case to Federal Police.

How do non-indigenes, get Justice from State Judiciary?

nairalanda1:
Good post

Also, let's be honest, most states won't be able to fund the state police properly

Take zamfara. They need a well equiped state police with special forces and even something approaching military level because banditry. Can they afford it?

It is NOT compulsory for all States to have States POLICE and even if they have State Police, it may just be dispatched to certain areas as a SPECIAL SECURITY outfit to argument the effort of the Federal Police, without necessarily been in all parts of the State ,all the time

Smartcitizen:
Most of you are too blind to see and that's why you people always end in regret every time.

This is how many of you were running their mouths when there was this argument for the creation of local government independent election commission and today, how well is that across all the states?

My only question for most of you championing this STATE POLICE CREATION is;


CAN YOU MENTION ANY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD PRACTICING STATE POLICE AND STATE GOVERNORS POSSESS IMMUNITY?

Just mention one country?

You think that white people are not intelligent.

All over most of the world, Policing is a local affairs.
Immunity of State Governors have nothing to do with State Police.

State Police don't have absolute powers,as you guys are assuming.

It is NOT compulsory, for all States to have State Police.

States that don't want State Police can still rely solely on Federal Police.

helinues:
Power drunk governors would abuse state police. Regional policing is still fair

The State Police does NOT mean abrogation of Federal Police.


Has State Governors abused Amotekun or LASTMA?

Brenbentondiaz:
Why are deveropers always jittery about anything that will empower regions. They're the ones wailing they want autonomy, they're the ones kicking against any move for autonomy in any form. They hate one Nigeria, but they still want a centralized system. They wailed that Lagos VAT is because of companies having their HQs there. Govt proposed VAT to be paid at the point of sales, they wailed and kicked against it. Wailing at this point is their default mode.

It is due to fears of the unknown. They are afraid of changes, thinking it may negatively affect them

jpphilips:
During the Aburi Conference, Ojukwu accused the then IGP Salem of negligence, which led to the death of Igbos up North in a pogrom that claimed around 30,000 lives, a bitter precursor to the civil war.
In his Defence, the IGP placed the blame on NAP, the Northern Authority police, the then regional police in the North, according to Salem, the National police did all it could but the regional police continued with the killings, in other to forestall any re-occurance, Ojukwu proposed the centralization of the armed forces, something in practice till date, first implemented in the Decree 8 of 1967.

By centralizing the armed forces, the Federal police became the sole law enforcer in the land, ever since, there has not been a repeat of 1966 pogrom, fast forward today, our irresponsible and ignorant politicians for their selfish reasons want to return us to pre-1966, it wasnt just the igbo pogrom that suffered under NAP, in the western region, after the 1964 elections, Awolowo lost seat majority to Akintola who was backed by the federal might, on the other hand, Awolowo was backed by the WRNAP the then western regional police, this misgivings gave rise to two years of bitter clashes and killings that forced the central government to carve out the Mid-western region from the Western region, through out the short period we practiced Regional police, nothing good came out of it, why would someone in his right senses today think state police will solve any problem, despite our ethnic biases?

Every African country with tribal sentiments breaks apart as soon as they establish state police, the case of the Tigray region and South Sudan comes to mind, even if we can't learn from our own experience, why can't we learn from other people's experience?
Imagine a lagos state dominated by Yoruba state police, how do you expect an igbo man to get justice in Lagos under such arrangement? How do you expect igbos to feel safe when the Yoruba-dominated state police actors felt slighted that an igbo man has won a state or federal election in Lagos state?

A wise man once said, “The surest way to solve a crisis is never to create it.”
State police will be the final nail in the coffin of this nation.

This write up is filled with inaccuracies and conjectures.

1) There was no organisation called Northern Authority Police (NAP) or WNRAP in the First Republic.

2) There were Native Authority (NA) Police and they weren't carrying arms but only used battons (kendo/Opa). The local names for Police in many parts of Nigeria has connections with this instrument e.g Olopa (The one with stick) in the South.

3) Only few officers (not the rank and files) of the Federal Police carried arms before ,1966.

The insinuation,that the program in the North were carried out by Northern Police is a blatant lie.

4) Every State has the God-given right to protect their people and secure their properties.

5) There are already elements of State Police in Nigeria e.g LATSMA in Lagos , OYES in Osun, HISBAH in Kano etc

franchasng:
Tacha the guy is making a good point. This has nothing to do with wherever he comes from. He is saying nothing but the truth, properties in Lagos are overrated and overpriced, simple.


2billion naira will buy you an amazing duplex in most highbrow cities in the US, UK, Switzerland, France, etc, now tell me can you compare any of the aforementioned countries cities with any city in Nigeria?


We are the reason our politicians are misbehaving and misleading this country.


The critic never said his state of origin is better than Lagos, he only said nothing but the truth that our properties are overpriced.


Every criticism of the government must be viewed with tribalism glasses

If you can help us crash the high costs of houses in Lagos, you will be widely celebrated as if you have found the cure for cancer

bdon123:
Oga am in my late 30ties....I am telling u that Nigeria as of today,no state can build a seaport like tincan Island Apapa .U tink a sea port is a motor park that anyone will jst wake up n build.Building seaports included signing major contracts wit a government of another country i.e u need federal government to be fully involved .No state as of today can build a port as sophisticated as tincan apapa dont be deceived.

The hallmark of an educated mind is the ability to
learn, unlearn and re-learn.

Because, Seaports aren't just infrastructure but have serious economic and SECURITY implications, for the whole country, the constitution vested the powers for regulatory controls in the FG. However, this is not limited to seaport but also true for university, education, airports and so many other aspect of our national life.

In this dispensation, the FG is more of a regulator than active player in many sectors.


1) Lagos State through PPP built Lekki Deepsea Port and is currently building Badagry Deep Sea-Port.

2) A-Ibom State has started building Ibaka Deep Port for years

3) In 2023 , Ondo State got approval from the FG to build her own Seaport

Dbegining:
The issue we are not seeing is that whether it is NUPENG or any other thing, we as a country would heavily depend on a private individual for petrol I and petroleum products.

The petrol that Nigeria had been using for years before Dangote Refinery were imported from PRIVATE REFINERIES abroad.

In the US, their President or FG has nothing to do with prices of petrol or refineries.

bdon123:
U nt understanding,states do not build seaport...its a federal project.Dangote port is for dangote refinery only or cement business.We are talking abt deep sea ports n infrastructure to handle d class of cargo Lagos ports handle.D ships that berth at tincan island cannot berth at ibaka.There needs to be facility to handle to class of ships .
I will use airline industry to giv u an example...airbus 380 planes which are most owned by emirates airlines do not land in nigeria becos our runway cannot handle that particular class of plane.instead they use older substandard planes to convey passenger to Nigeria bt abroad they use airbus 380 for long haul flights.so who do u blame now for that?ofcourse nigerian government who hav refused to improve along wit d rest of d world

You are still living in the past (most probably born and grew up under the Military Rule, where FG was in-charge of virtually every aspect of Nigeria's economy).

Seaports, Airports, Railways and Electricity have been taken off from the exclusive list in the constitution and taken to concurrent list (meaning both FG and States can legislate on these items).

Lagos State ,through PPP built Lekki Deep Sea Port (more sophisticated than the old ports at Apapa and Tin Can) and currently building Badagry Deep-Sea Port.

Dangote is building Dangote Port for COMMERCIAL purposes in Ogun State.

Ibaka DEEP Seaport ,would have been completed if A/Ibom State Government is not doing it as a typical Government Project but do it via Public-Private Partnership, in conjunction with Chinese or Indian Business Corporations.

The roles of the FG is now more of a regulator rather than active players in these industries.

Oakenshield:
shut up ,why are other ports not working?
Calabar port that 70% of cars imported into the countryside and other goods were through the port and was working very well. Thereby spreading development to Akwa Ibom and Lagos port was a par with it. The same Tinubu colluded with OBJ and said the needed dredging and Uzondinma was awarded the project yet nothing happened till date. Lagos became the sole active port in the country,so why wouldn't the develop better than other regions.
The claim big ships can't come to calabar port yet is it canoe that supplies tankers of fuel,diesel, kerosene and bitumen to depot's at calabar.
Crossriver is closer to the North than Lagos is and let the port be allowed to work and see if development wouldn't reach places like bebue state

Onne Port ,Rivers State is very functional.

bdon123:
Oga accept this is very true.Nigeria has port issues bt refused to build another in other regions.lagos gets special treatment all d time

There are functional ports in Onne,Rivers State and Calabar (though less patrinized). Dangote is building $800 million Seaport in Ogun State.

Since over 12yrs ago, Akwa-Ibom State Government has been allocating funds in yeary budgets for Ibaka Deep seaport, but these are often embezzled.

FatherLord:
Instead of advising the oppressor to learn you are advising the oppressed to keep quiet in pains . You are obviously one of them

Who is oppressing you? Most Nigerians don't even know the real causes of their problems.

franchasng:
Tinubu should rather learn from leaders that used anti people policies to push the citizens to the edge.


Maybe Tinubu's inhumane tax law and other of his wicked policies in the name of increasing government revenue away from crude oil will be the final straw that will break the camel's back and boom, Baba Sope the Lagos landlord will get that people's revolt he has been asking for, just maybe, time will tell.



So Seyi Law abi Seyi Court, don't worry, don't advice Tinubu to reverse his anti people policies, be there trying to gaslight and scare Nigerians with references, e go shock una

Tinubu is implementing robust policies that are already reshaping the economy of Nigeria.

It is true,that these policies cause inconveniences and hardship at the infancy stages but they also offer opportunities. Unfortunately, most of the Youths on Social Media are the educated youths, who are programmed for salaries-job and not in good capacity to adequately increase their incomes to adjust for the effects of inflation.

Racoon:
These supporters of oppressors would rather want suffering citizens to continue to suffer that revolt or fight for what is legally theirs from the hands of their oppressors.

People can protest against certain policies they don't like but killing political office holders ,burning public buildings and insurrection will only cause more havoc without producing any solutions

This is similar to the usual excuses of failed siblings, blaming their most successful siblings that 'all the money that our parents had were used to educate Broda Yemi/ Aunty Aminat' now, he forgets us.

The real reason why other States witnessed slower growth: collapses of over 300 manufacturing companies scattered accross Nigeria between 1986-2007 and replacement, with culture of massive importation. This led to great rural-urban migration.

Kingpele:
Everything about this administration is focused on either frustrating citizens or centred on frivolities...this could be the reason a company representative had the guts to walk out of a meeting with a minister of the federal Republic (a representative of the president)in attendance.....this is the anyhowness we keep seeing in this country...

NUPENG is a meddlesome interloper.

Dangote only has a contract with the new drivers, NOT with NUPENG.


Imagine that you just open a new restaurant and want ti hire ten sales girls to work for you ,then some old women in the neighbourhood come into the restaurant, claiming to be the union of food sellers and insisting that you can't operate unless these new 10 sales girls join their association otherwise, they would cripple all food businesses in the town

Lamasta:
Let him join the union his workers are under labour laws in the land

Coca-Cola and Nigerian Breweries are able to engage drivers to transport their products from the manufacturing plants to their distributors without Trade Unionists causing problems but Dangote can't be left alone to employ drivers to transport his products from his plants (Refinery) to the distributors (petrol stations) because it by-pass NUPENG middlemen

Ojiofor:
Davido said he is Igbo too so what's the big deal?
Awww the Adelekes are Igbos like Vivour from the ruling house of Osun state,😅

Davido can claim to be anything, that is own cup of tea but the Senator Raji Ayoola Adeleke ,the father of the incumbent Governor of Osun State and the late Balogun of Ede was an aristocratic Yoruba man.

Buccalcavity2:
His people ain't close-minded or tribalistic (esp comparatively). He fell for the political gimmick of his opponents. He caught the bait coz he is simple.
Not diff from "Christian take back your country" "Muslim Muslim rhetoric"... it's what politicians do. The job of a politician is to ensure none sticks to him/her.

No ,he strongly believed that the votes of the Igbos and other non-indigenes plus anti -Tinubu Yorubas would give him victory.

On a deeper level, one can see that he has veiled contempt for the Yoruba people, going by nany of his posts on Social Media.

IgOga:
Ok. Omo eko plenty for here. So what should we do about that?

ADC will not downgrade itself in Lagos by choosing Gbadebo. Funso Doherty is our man in Lagos

Though they now claim Lagosians, but the Doherty family is originally from Ilaro Town which is in today's Ogun State

Vision101:
Rubbish...... I have my company and it's my right to give you condition of employment. If you like it you sign and take up employment. If you don't want you try somewhere else and another person will take your position.

Have you not noticed over the years that banks don't have unions. Where is NUBIFE? Have you ever heard of strikes in the banking sector for so many years?

NUPENG is scared that they can't hold the nation to ransom anymore with what Dangote wants to do. Their leaders want to feed fat on check-off dues from Dangote drivers. Other Dangote truck drivers do they belong to unions?

Dangote has fought the oil cabal and won them is it the small fry like NUPENG that he cannot? The days of threats by oil workers are coming to an end.

In Lagos NUPENG members will park anyhow. If Lagos State government tow their vehicles they will go on strike.

I remember during Obasanjo's tenure.

A soldier flogged a tanker driver ,who obstructed the road at Oshodi-Apapa express Road, causing traffic grid lock.
Immediately, NUPENG declared strike and held the country to ransome

owagbeba:
It is important we (Nigerians) really sit down and decide what kind of society we want.

The same way NURTW is forcing motorists to pay up at every bus stop regardless of membership or not. Same thing NUPENG wants here. Dangote and Dantata are private entities, and they can freely decide not to join this association called NUPENG. What’s wrong with that? NUPENG is an association, isn’t it? It is not a regulatory body for drivers in the oil and gas sector. It is just an association!

NUPENG is the equivalent of NURTW in the Oil & Gas Industry.

They have enjoyed monopoly and holding Nigeria to ransome for over 40yrs and are now scared of private sector participation in the industry.

This is like ASUU ,insisting that all lecturers in Private Universities join their union.

SeeWahala:
Helinues, run come see something ooo

That lack of fuel scarcity and ques wey you dey use make point for your Tilumbu's good governance is about to be cancelled

Wetin you go come use dey make mouth for us here if e eventually turn out to be true? 🤔

The matter is between Dangote Refinery and NUPENG , nothing concern Tinubu about this case.

Dangote and Dantata have rights to run their companies in any ways they deem fit in as much as they don't breech any laws. NUPENG is a meddlesome interloper, that want to maintain their monopoly in the downstream sector of the petroleum industry by insisting, that Dangote drivers must join their Trade Union

surgical:
Tinubu did not do any magic, it is because he is able to put petrol prices at a rate that both the government and the dealers makes abnormal profits
The scarcity that occur before is usually for price negotiation, when government wants to jack up prices,since everyone involved is now smiling to the bank except the masses, the oppressors are delighted, what will they withdraw supply for

The MAGIC, Tinubu did was to return Petrol to the pre-1965 era, when Petrol was like bread, newspapers, palm oil or beer, whose prices were determined by demand and supply,rather than by the President

AMINDA:
This green snake won't cease pandering to the Southwest in a bid to be considered for the VP role. He's celebrating Gani Fawehinmi but opposition figures are being hounded in Kaduna state. The ADC office just got shut down by the police. Was that what Gani Fawehinmi stood for?

How old were you during the Abacha days, when Comrade Uba Sani(now Governor of Kaduna State), Comrade Chima Ubani ,Comrade Femi Aribisala and Gani Fawahenmi were organising protests against the Military Junta?

Comrade Sheu Sani (Now Senator Sheu Sani) and Dr Beko Ransome-Kuti were incarcerated alongside Comfort Obi, Lam Adesina and Bola Ige by the Abacha Junta.

ERockson:
Isese has gained more ground in the last few years. What are they actually doing right recently

Many of their children are now well educated. I know an Associate Professor in Medicine who is also a practicing Babalawo. Some are now lawyers ,Judges ,Police officers etc.

Age of enlightenment; Many youths are now questioning the assumed superiority of imported religions over Traditional Religion.

AntiChristian:
Isese day?

Wetin be all these sef?

Abeg, i get work tomorrow jawe!

It is a Public Holiday for African Traditional Religion called Isese in Yoruba language.