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I'm quite happy with this guy for missing my people in his list.
What of Awgu(Ogu) people in Enugu State. We are called Awgu(Awgu, Mmaku, Mgbo, Nnenwe, Achi, Ituku, Oduma, Okpanku Agbogugu etc). infact we are also very big conpared to ngwa Nnsuka dialects.

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Edited remarks to lie and create propaganda. This man just selected few comments. Sorry for all evil doers and liars.
it such a wonderful chart yesterday. the president cleared so many misinformation carried around by APC. God will deliver Nigeria from APC. a patty building their foundation on lies, propaganda, intimidation and anipulation. what will happen if they should get this power.

Other paties especially PDP should protect their Gover. candidate. APC can take life out of them

Billygee2u:
APC state covering APC murderers.
who is surprised ? remember Funsho williams death .

barcanista:
Let us be true to ourselves.
Obasnjo faced Militancy, they blow up oil pipes, kidnap workers and he deployed Military. Yet he saved LOTS of Money and Still managed the debt from $30b to $3 billion

Yar Adua faced similar thing until the Amnesty Program. Yet he saved More Money and managed the debt well.
See this...

Militants blow up oil installation= Nigeria loses Money
Militants Kidnap Oil Workers= Nigeria Loses Oil Money
Oil Coys Pay Ransome= It tells on our tax
Oil Coys cut production= Nigeria loses money
President Obasanjo Spent Money on Military= Just Like Jonathan.
Yet, we had enough in our revenue and almost zero external debt

See how you deliberately avoided the man's point and went back to your baseless argument. You seem to be incoherent, dangerous and manipulative, and insincere. you just picked some and live the first coments.
Pls. see the man's point and comment on them if you like. stop lieing to us.

"Ahmeduana:

REMEMBER THAT DURING OBASANJO AND YARADUA THERE WAS NO FUNCTIONAL RAILWAY SYSTEM, NO WORLD CLASS AIRPORT, AND THE FEDERAL UNIVERSITIES ARE FEW, NO MAKARANTA ALMAJIRI, AND ALL THE 35,000 KILOMETERS ROAD NETWORKS ARE DEATH TRAP, And all these are functioning right now though not fully but we are on the right track of achieving NIGERIA of our dream. AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT MORE MONEY,MORE PROBLEMS, MORE SOLUTIONS> OBASANJO CAME IN A DIFFERENT TIME YARADUA CAME IN AN INTERESTING TIME while jonathan is war time president all the money we should have used for infrastructure development purpose is been spent on in executing war on boko haram THIS IS MY QUESTION IS IT THE AMOUNT THE STATE GOVERNORS ARE COLLECTING AS MONTHLY ALLOCATION DURING OBASANJO AND YARADUA ERA IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT THEY ARE STILL COllECTING NOW? Left for the governor Nigeria will not be having anything call external reserve "
I won't forget what I suffered last 7-9 years. fuel scarcity and bad road network. the problem is that Nigerians forgets too soon and our leaders are aware of this, and they are using it against the public. If Nigerians can reflect back, what was happening before GEJ took over they will want GEJ to continue at all cost.
I almost had heart attack because of fuel scarcity, before Yaradua and GEJ took over. For mustering courage to convene the national conference “which OBJ refused and manipulated for third term agenda”, I will vote for GEJ to complete the wonderful transformation. We want people oriented and progressive constitution. GEJ will accomplish that.
Only, Selfish, myopic and greedy Nigerian will want to return this country to the hand of old wicket politicians like APC.

Where are those dumbs saying that BH is more equiped than Nigerian Army? what a nonsence mistake.

since2005:
[size=30pt]Is she gay?[/size]

Is it that you don't understand English? Or didn’t you read the discussion?
At this age she can't be looking for a boy friend. Presently she doesn’t have boy friend and she is not looking for one; because she is a woman and women are not expected to look (Search) for men ie men are expected to be looking for women.
So when a bold, confident and good looking tall man come to her or finds her she may be willing to fall in love to such man.

I can tell you she is a wise lady. At this her status she still wants to marry naturally. She wants natural and true love and this is the only way she can get true husband. Her marriage will only work if the confident man comes to her by himself and not her trying to persuade the man. If this lady marries; her marriage may work unlike many other actresses.
She is expecting a real man ie somebody that will not be intimidated by her looks or wealth. A real man that will look at her, treat her and love her like a wife. I think this lady is ready for marriage now.

So you see your question is contradicting the discussion.

Tallesty1: I wanted to pass when I saw the heading of this post because I hate Feminism but on a second thought I decided to give reading it a shot. This Emma Watson is making sense in a way but using feminism instead of "Equal Rights Movement" Is Where she got it wrong.

This two bodies claim to fight for thesame thing but they are not thesame.

The Equal Rights Movements wanted things such as the right to vote and more equality in the work force, a law against domestic violence, maternity leave, equal pay and a law agains sexual harassment and sexual violence.

Feminism is a movement started by men hating, lazy, angry and demonic women.(sorry I'm loose with words sometimes). Feminism arose from the extreme fustrations of women who wanted additional and unnecessary freedoms like abortion, etc.

Ever wondered why Woman A's feminism is not always Woman B's feminism?? That is because they confuse equal right movement with feminism.

I hate feminism because it has failed to acknowledgment that there is any inequality that oppresses men, and they are hell bent on keeping this oppression.

I hate feminism because they tend to want equality only when it benefits them. Their money is their money but their husbands money is for the two of them yet they claim equality. To hit a woman is wrong but to hit a man is self defense.

I hate feminism because they actively seek to overthrow any vestige of male dominance in society, to the point of opposing the biblical roles of husbands and wives, defending abortionon demand, and promoting lesbianism.

I hate feminism because it is based in arrogance, and it is the opposite of the call to the born-again believer to be a servant.

I hate feminsim because they are breaking up the traditional role of the woman in a family and society. It also causes confusion among men and women as to where they stand in the family that's why you hear people say my husband is the head and I'm the neck. I could go on and on but lemme stop here.

To The Christian Feminist. Please think twice. Feminism is from the pit of hell. God outlines the roles of women and men as different but equally as important. He created us different physically, emotionally. Men and women can never be equal. You can say 2 + 2 = 5 if you want to, but the truth is intolerant... 2 + 2 will always equal 4. Don't allow end time teachers to tell you otherwise.

While equal right movement is fighting for all of us, Feminist is attacking men, marriage and promoting lesbianism and being single.

The tussle for power in marriage is completely unnecessary. And before you start thinking that Tallesty likes to oppress women, lemme clear you. NO he doesn't. Tallesty believes in equality as much as anyone, but WITHIN the teachings of the Word of God.

It is sin in the heart that causes inequality. It is sin that causes men to treat women in ways that are meant to demean or objectify them. And it is sin that seeks counterfeit solutions to counteract these inequalities. The only true cure for inequality is obedience to God’s Word. If men and women would walk in obedience to God’s Word then their won't be a need to for feminism or equal right movement.

Bro. you are right, but let me add that the issue of discussion itself is centrally to the Biblical teaching. There is nothing like equality in the real sense. Anything that opposes leadership, authority and seniority is not from God. God offers everybody freedoms for anything including choosing to either die or live in Hell or Heaven. Whenever two people are equal in everything, then they have to always choose somebody to lead ie. to be the greater one. So Bible is encouraging Love, respect, goodness holiness, faith, humility, gentleness contentment, self control, etc (note that devil cannot offer any of the qualities listed here even though they can offer the fake ones like the feminist it trying to do.) Devil will bring evil teaching and present the seemly faint good part of it to manipulate those that are questioning the word of God (Bible).

However inwardly such teaching is deadly and aimed at bringing people against God and taking them to hellfire. Feminist as usual can claim anything to manipulate those that want to be manipulated. If you like what they are doing even as a Christian you will wish that they are right. Hence you can easily be manipulated. Devil have been trying to destroy all that God has put in place, to Question what God has established to oppose God. Since we human thinks we are wiser than God, it is not surprising that we can try to revolt against God's authority and injunctions.

Before Feminist began to manipulate the world, there has always been love. Men have been dying for women. Men have been sacrificing themselves for women and also women are also ready to even do the same where necessary. That there are some evil people in the world does not mean we should throw away the word of God. Devil doesn’t come out clean of his intents but come in a subtle way, just like what these feminist groups are trying to do. If you see yourself in the lake of fire, you have no excuse; you will blame yourself as everything have been made clear and open by God, the choice is yours.

If you want to be a Christian you better accept and love God and the word of God as God and His word is the same and one thing.

code11: deception at its highest point.

Maybe most of you have not been to Enugu state, I don't mean Enugu town, Enugu has just the state capital developed, if you are not in the capital, then be ready to swing swampy words cus the roads are not tarred nor is there pipe water and electricity....

Why are you people always trying to over blow things.
Please I will also like to know the areas in Enugu state that doesn't have Electricity; especially the very remote areas in Enugu. Please help us remind the State Government as this will help them.
The areas I know in Enugu State all have electricity; we are only looking forward to making the electricity steady.

Enugu state should also improve their rural road repair network.

As for the projects in question, we will only believe when we see such project with our eyes. I'm from Awgu. This is not the first time they (Government) promised something for Awgu people and collected it back through the back door.
We also know that the government ( old Anambra and Enugu state) have seriously neglected Awgu in the scheme of things(projects and infrastructure developments).
It is only this present government and the government of Jim Nwobodo that tried somehow for the people of Awgu.

Please lets remember what Jim did in the old Anambra state in the area of Education and health. lets restore the JIMs Education(special Science schools) and Health (Modern Health centers in the rural areas) schemes in Enugu state.

Paulonminyi: F.G must dialoque wit dis Boko Haram Boy,FG can nt over power dis almanjeri boys they re too many,combine south n west together thy re nt up to north. Dis boko boys want to die at all cost. My advice is dis... U can use gun to treat a person wit a bomb round his neck. We must come to a round table or Nigeria be a history in 365 days. We must STOP liein to ourselves as a nation

Are you a bokoharam member?
you are a complete novice. you want to dailogue with Islam to stop their crusade. They will kill you first. they acn only stop when you overpower them. they are doing their normal preaching and crusade. If they want to dia why are they running and doing hide and seek?

padeolu: I also believe its a spiritual attack. I guess I was saved, psalm 91 is the only chapter of the bible that I know...I wonder why God saved me.

Maybe you should consider mas.turbation sis, its sweet and free from preggy, stds, moreso, its not a sin. :/

I'm commenting on this because of this your statement. Please masturbation is a serious SIN, addiction to pornography is also a SIN. So if you feel so relaxed masturbating, then you better repent. Past Chris Oya. has archived His aim on your head. Satan really want people not to bother repenting or seeing anything as SIN. This is one of SATANS strategy.

However, you are close to Christians but yet you seem to be very far knowing the truth.
Just ignore people doubting if it is spiritual attack or not. I want to tell you from personal experience, it is spiritual attack. All you need to do to avoid this and ---- who knows more serious attack in future is to come close to God and repent, Keep repenting everything. Always acknowledge you are perfect through the faith you have in Christ Jesus. Hence, keep repenting and leaving your live to please the Lord almighty (Jesus Christ), always until you see the fruit of the spirit completely manifesting in you.

AlfaSeltzer: Ah! Is that what Israel told you? Even if true, how does killing women and children solve that problem?

Allowing them to continue to send rocket to kill children and women in Isreal and digging turnells to be used to attack Isreal both will solve the problem.

barcanista: Going by your logic, it will be right for the world to attack Germany for the sins of Hitler?

Exactly, the world attacked Gamany as long as they were fighting.

barcanista: You don't even know what you are saying. Have a field day

No pretender don't quit yet.
Boko-haram should send rocket to Camerron from university of medugry, so Cameroon will not defend themself.

dammytosh: Your question is out of context.

The right question is that "Should Cameroon allow Boko Haram to send 3,000 + rockets from our territory and fold their arms that na boko haram no Nigeria".

Yes if Cameroon should identify Boko-haram position they are free to bomb them. Infact Cameroon have been attacking Boko-haram since. they are free to attack bokoharam if they know their position in Nigeria.

victorv12: All you fvcking Jews will die! No wonder Hitler nearly wiped their race off the face of the planet!

It's high time Nigerians start carrying anti-semitic attacks against any Jewish ethnic groups in our society. Physcothic Jews! They eat and kill babies in Gaza!

you can see who is a terorist now. evil judges. As if you don't know how terorists operate.
If they can kill them self it is the life of their civilians they will protect. If somebody is shooting you from a house; you will not respond to protect your self, even after warning everybody to stay away from the shooting (Terorist) arear.
Pretenders are liers; and I think you are one of them.

Good man like you.
See you cursing and abussing yet you are referencing Jesus and Christianity.
you need deliverance.
Which one is operation? unjust judge like you.

Ndi Igbo Mma Mma nuo!
Onye Awgu Na ekele Umu Igbo Nile. Chukwu ga-aluluanyi Ogu.

I'm still amassed why somebody should be unhappy or angry with the Igbos for been industrious, yet they also buy land, build houses submit CV for employment etc. I’m not sure that propaganda will stop in this manipulation they call country.
I don’t see any reason why this trend/discussion should make some people mad, let alone generating tribal comments and malignity. If Igbo people are not wanted in Nigeria, let it be made very clear. If all the accusations, name calling and character deformation mated on Igbos are true, then Nigeria should come out clean to tell the world that they don’t want Igbos to be part of Nigeria.
If Igbos are too greedy as they said, and you no longer like them, in fact you hated them, please start campaigning to Nigeria to let them go. Infact start this by sending all Igbos in your state back to their land. People can be very ungrateful.
If one third (1/3) of Igbo investments in Nigeria should be in Igbo Land; Lagos and Abuja will not be compared to South-East of Nigeria. Nigeria is sucking South-East Dry and yet they (these thieves) hated south-East without any just cause. God will answer then for us.

I won't say more than this before they barn me.

Agwo talum Ajuo gi Odu
The snake that bites me has lashed you it's tail

Oti Okpo anaghi eti Isi Akwu.
Dibia na agwo Otule, ebe ka edewere Otule ye.
Dibia biara igwo ozo, Ozi si na-azy tigbuo nwa Dibia.

Nogen: Whatever thing you guys want to do, please and please remove Ihiala from that Ekiti state creation. We are not going out of Anambra.

Iheala is not to be in Etiti state (“Etiti” not "Ekiti", it is supposed to be in Njaba or Anim state. Etiti is not looking for "follow follow people" or "local champions" or" Igwe bu Ikes". Etiti state will be a revelation of what the SE will be becoming in Future and will be uniting the entire SE.
Etiti state want confident, free minded, resilient and brave people to be part of the new Etiti state. Etiti state don't want opportunists and cowards. Etiti state is in the heart of the present SE.

It wasn’t only Iheala that was been carved out of Anambra state.
Etiti state will be home for all the Igbos eventualy.

Richardiyke271: Which reasons is behide d creating of etiti state 4d igbos

Etiti State (Equity State) was created in other to bring the government close to the people and to help settle the marginalization the Igbo’s has been experiencing since after the war.
The area called Etiti state is the most marginalized part of Igbo Land. Etiti state came from all the present five SE states. I think that is why it was called Etiti state and or Equity state.

Chino72: You are an ediot for mentioning my name in your silly post. Who told you that Anambra has anything to do with Imo state? How do you come to that conclusion? Anambra is even more inclined and has genuine connection to Delta-Igbo, Rivers towards Ogbaru/Ndoni (Odili's home town), Enugu towards Ugwuoba, Abia toward Umunze/Isuochi, and Kogi toward Otuocha/Ibaji.

I have consistently made it clear to you that we are not the same people with you guys. Go look for your brothers where they are. It is not by force to be nwanne. We have nothing in common with you people. So there is no way any part of Anambra will join you in your silly state creation.

I repeat we Anambrans are cool and does not want any part of us removed. Our government is taking care of us, that is why government presense is in all areas and not just the urban centers. Every Anambra community is thick and that is what makes us as a state thick. We do not want that God Given Grace to be taken away. Ife eji abu Anambra erika!

Discount us from you calculations as we are not the same people with you people. We are not interested in having anything to do with you guys. We have different culture, marriage, tradition etc Like as I said earlier we have no connections with you people! Learn to live with that you silly unlettered fellow called abagworo!

I thought this Chino has changed. He is still talking like a baby.
People should ignore this boy.
Etiti state is the most marginalized part of Igbo land. I fully support the creation of Etiti state all from the present five SE states. However considering so many things like “location, topography, size, minerals etc) I suggest that the capital of this state be sited in Awgu.

Etiti state is actually the state at the centre of the SE and will be uniting the other SE states in future.
Okigwe should have been ok but that is considering it’s popularity. Popularity shouldn’t be the yardstick here. Okigwe shares border with Umuahia and Orlu one is already a capital city and the other is a proposed state capital. So, you see state capital shouldn’t be too close to each other let alone sharing border. Okigwe, Umuahia, Orlu are all too close to each other and shouldn’t be all state capital. Also Okigwe is not at the centre hence I suggest that the Capital be sited in Awgu Since it is at the centre of the new Etiti state and the centre of the SE. Also all the LGA of the Etiti state can connect to Awgu directly, hence if you consider the proximity also the Etiti state capital should be sited in Awgu.

Etiti State will be the pride of the East in the furture, as it will be uniting the Igbos. this is one of the most reasonable states created for the Igbos in general considering the reason behind the new state.

Brightest Light: If Mary had original sin,Jesus would have been a product of sin.

You are still blaspheming; we are complaining that the Catholics are deceived by worshiping and honoring May. Calling Mary Holy is calling God lair. Bible said Mary is a human but Catholics are saiying that Mary is not human ie, Mary is half human half spirit. God said “All have sinned”, but Catholics said it is a lie, that Mary has never committed sin.
Pls. can any Roman Catholic show me were Bible called Mary Holy or where Bible said that Mary is righteous?
You are telling the world that Mary is not a human. Bible said that a woman (Virgin) will bear a child.
Where did you get this information from? Devil has been looking for a way to make the Catholics reverence May. Catholics gives glorifies Mary, they look for flimsy excuses to keep doing this, but it is the hand work of the Devil. And Our God (Christian God) does not share his glory with anybody.
Roman Catholics should wake up and embrace what is in the Bible. They seemed to be joking with the Bible.

Can we talk it over. Let any Roman Catholic prove to us that they are not worshiping Mary. Not by mout but by facts, reason and reality.

koastar: As far as I am concerned based on personal encounter with them, they are the same. Though, different doctrines but same misinterpretations, misquoting and misunderstanding of the bible.

Give example of deeper life wrong doctrine, Lets leave deeper life out of this for now.

koastar: There are some churches you should not waste your time with, JW, Deeper Life (and many protestant churches) etc. Their doctrine is totally contradictory to the bible they carry as logo wherever they go. One man will wake up one day, formulate his own doctrine, come out with his own teachings and fallible interpretations of the scripture, he will deceive many other gullible people and make them his disciples, start a church and call themselves the "true Christians". In short, many will miss heaven because they are gullible and their founders will not be speared on judgement day either because it will better to tie a stone round their necks and thrown into the sea for letting their followers derail from the truth.

What has Deeper life done to you now. Please leave deeper life out of JW discussion as they cannot be compared. Deeper life is a christian Church(denomination) that has good doctrine and strugling in the midst of perverse and crooked generation to make heaven. If you understand what we are saying; Deeper life have nothing to be compared to Jehovah Witness.

rabzy: Jesus christ was a messenger from God and the Jews refused to accept him but they claim they worship, honour and love God, But Jesus was telling them that if you dont honour me who God sent then you are not honouring the person that sent me. That does not make Jesus his father, what he said is that if you disrespect me you disrespect who i came to represent. Even in the human diplomacy, it is the same. The ambassador represents the country, the messenger represents the king that sends him, if you attack the embassy of a country, you are attacking the country. JWs honour Jesus christ very well, but if you think making him God almighty is honour....it is not, it is blasphemy.

Christ is reigning with the authority of God, he derives his legitimacy, power and authority from God, So how can he be above him that gave him the authority...there is nowhere in the scriptures where God placed himself under Christ...he is always depicted in a lower position to God in all references to him...He is always seen at the right hand of God, never on Gods throne.
Before Abraham..before the the creation of anything else....Jesus christ has existed for uncountable number of years with his father in heaven...(islam does not teach any of these, so please stop lumping us with islam)

I Have to go now i will talk on the alpha and omega expressions later

Can't you see you have decided to believe what you believe? You said you believe in Jesus Christ but you don’t agree to what Jesus has said and you believe what people that don’t believe said about Him.

We are not into comprehension competition here. So, stop analyzing that your human childish login. Be a man. Christ Called himself son of God so you will know that God is not two, so you will know that It is the same God in flesh.

JW is antiChrist spirit. Jesus said He is the Son of God and it means that He is making Himself God and He did not deny that, but you want to explain to the crowds what Jesus mean by "He is the Son of God". Thus believing you understood more that the crowds that were physically present during t He teaching.

Mr. Man stop hiding and pretending; the spirit behind JW is Spirit of antichrist almost every mature Christian is aware of that fact.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
John 9:36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
John 9:37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talked with thee.
John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. [/color]And he worshipped him.

What I’m telling you is for everybody to see how far you people have gone to accept deception and stick to it. However it is only God that can open your eye.
From above passages you can see Jesus even receiving worship from a believer. Christians doesn’t worship two God. They worship only one God, So if Christ is not God then there is a serious confusion. Check the entire Bible it is only God and Christ that received worship from People. I’m not telling you to believe, but for everybody to see that JW stubbornness is deliberate, it is spiritual.

Take a look again:
John 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:30 .I and my Father are one.
John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

You still have option to believe or not to believe the person of Jesus Christ, you need to believe so you can be saved.

Sorry I will show you more, As I said It is not by force, take what I’m showing you to your JW study let them confuse you the more; or you can just check them in the scripture yourself and believe.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
God is always the first in everything He first create HIMSELF (So He is the first born)
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (If Jesus Christ create everything; then He is God, God created all things)
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(If Christ is before all thing then He is God, It is only God that existed before all things; Alpha & Omega first & Last, beginning & End),
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

More:
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

More:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (JW turned this “God” to god “small g”, to confuse people)
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
“Joh1:3” is saying that if not for Christ nothing would have been created; hence If Christ is not the same God that creates that statement would have been false; Because God would have found another way to create things.”

You can go ahead to deceive yourself, but I have told you to run away from JW or you wait for damnation.
I’m taking time to explain this for people to see not that JW will accept Christ personality, But I know this believe is very important to Christian faith. That's why Devil is attacking it(antichrist).

JW witness is not Christian Church; they have a different purpose against the Church (Christians) and against Human soul.
JW was formed almost the same time with Islam find out, they are operating with the same spirit with the same goal but with a different face and style.
Islam is clear and operating outside the Church but JW hides within the church and looks like Christian Church

rabzy: For centuries Churches has allowed politicians to use them to propagate their wars...during the biafran war, 'xtians' in the Nigerian army were killing a predominately 'xtian' biafran army and it has been so in all major wars for the past hundreds of years. The bloody wars of Europe were fought by 'xtian' armies and were heavily supported by the different churches. Christians throwing away the bible and killing each other, Catholics killing catholics and protestants killing protestants because of some political gains.

Early Xtians were never interested in the wars of the Nations until apostasy came into Christianity, and JWs have never been interested in wars nor have they ever supported any war.

JW is just about 176 or a little more year old. Christians fighting war does not mean that they were sent by God to fight. There have always been wars and politics that affected Christians.
Christians have been mattered so many times before, God always know how to handle the devil and glorify Himself in the end. Don't accuse Christians about any war; war will always affect them in one way or the other.
If Christians should start to defend themselves; War will start in Nigeria. Many Christians are ignorant of devises of the enemy, which I'm sure you know if you are a Christian.
Christians have never fought any war as a Church, but as a country or tribe or politics.

That JW does not do those things doesn’t make them true bible preachers.
Yes Christian may support any action against any action that may affect them negatively. There by siding one party or the other in a war.

Christians can’t just support the Killing of other Christian by Boko Haram in the North. So, If war starts because Christians refuse to convert to Islam then they are now fighting war. Of course check this out yourself, JW will not join Christians in anything, but they can join Islam or other religion to destroy Christianity.
Find out about this.

thinkdip: Bt Jesus said to Nicodamus: verily verily i say unto you, except a man is born of water and of the spirit he can not enter the kingdom of God...please i need explanation on these

JW is full of error see how the man cleverly avoided the truth,
From this passage; there nothing hidden about the heaven and those that will be in heaven but they look for reason to believe error.

Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


If you care for the truth read this. JW have already resolved to believe what they want to believe. Only God’s mercy will deliver some of them. Note that Thessalonians are not Jews but see what Paul told them.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

JW looks for places to use to confuse some ignorant and unfortunate once.

rabzy: Christ is the son of God does not make him God, it makes him the Son of God. There are other people in the Bible that were also called sons of God...does that also make them God.

The person of God is different from that of Jesus, the scriptures shows this in too many places numerous to recount...even after his resurrection to heaven, the Bible shows them as separate individuals...Stephen saw Jesus at the right hand of God, Paul said Jesus went to the most holy and presented the value of his sacrifice to God, ;.....the Bible called him the high priest (dont forget a high priest serves a God/gods).....Rev 1:1 says the revelation of Christ which God gave him and which Jesus sent thru his angel to John..

That is what JW used to say. This is the spirit of Anti-Christ for your information. This is exactly the same thing as Islam. For JW anything can be accepted about Jesus Christ but not the personality of Jesus Christ.
You people claim to know the bible but you refuse to accept the truth. If you deny the person of Jesus Christ as been the Son of God and been God then your son must be a goat or a monkey.
You think you are wiser than the Jews that were physically present when Jesus Call God His Father and they wanted to stone Him for that. You think those Jews are stupid and unwise?

The literal meaning that Jesus is the Son of God is that He is God. Unless you know that your son is a guerilla or antelope.
You can also confirm this from religious scholars. As I said that is why the Jews wanted to stone Him. He was accused of making Himself equal with God by calling God his Father or Calling Himself the Son of God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

This Passage is also referring to Jesus, the passage came even before Jesus was born on this earth.
JW study the Bible just to know how to disprove the person of Jesus Christ but they have failed.

The bible will be full of error any day anybody start to see Jesus Christ as different from God. Stop your false doctrine and repent.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As I have said before JW is established for the purpose of denying the personality of Christ. According to the passage above, they are operating with the spirit of antichrist.

If you are a Christian, stay away from JW unless you want to help them understand the scripture.

rabzy: From your comment you are implying that Jesus is now greater than God the father...that is so so so wrong.

9 Therefore [because He stooped so low] God has highly exalted Him and has [a]freely bestowed on Him the name that is above every name,
10 That in (at) the name of Jesus every knee [b]should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 And every tongue [[c]frankly and openly] confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father

Can you see from the above verses that the exaltation of Jesus to a higher position, the sole purpose and eventual result is to the 'glorification of God the father'. Every action Jesus did was to vindicate and glorify his father and at the end of everything he will subject himself to God.

As shown in the comment above 1 cor 15: 25-28, clearly argued against what you said....Jesus was never exalted to God's position. Nobody has ever and will ever be equal to Almighty God

You are right and that is what Christ has been seeking from the very first time.

But if Christ is the Son of God then He is God. When you honor Christ you hornor the Father, when you give the glory to Christ you are giving the glory to Christ. But God has made it in a way that every man must come to Him through this name Jesus Christ.
Hence if you honoreth not the Son, then you honoreth not the Father.
So Christ is not above God. It is the same person.