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Culture / Re: Afro-centrism: The Most Potent Form Of Self Hate. by PAPAAFRICA: 6:29pm On Feb 12, 2016
PhysicsQED:


Yeah, it's been a while. I've been trying to ease out of nairaland by visiting/posting/reading less often so that I spend my time much more productively. So far it's mostly been a success. But I will still post on here for a while longer, as there are still some threads I meant to get around to responding to and finishing posting on.

Nice to see that you're still around somewhat, still creating controversy. grin

Culture / Re: Auwa The Daughter Of Askiya The Great Of Songhai Empire Married The Sarki Of Ka by PAPAAFRICA: 12:02pm On Dec 06, 2015
Ive never read this anywhere before, sounds interesting, source?
Culture / Re: Afro-centrism: The Most Potent Form Of Self Hate. by PAPAAFRICA: 11:57am On Dec 06, 2015
PhysicsQED:




Hey Physics, if you don't mind me asking, do you post on historum? Im asking because i see a specific person on there with a similar writing style.
Culture / Re: Why Are Some White People Hell Bent On Denying Leo Africanus Visit To Hausaland by PAPAAFRICA: 7:43pm On Nov 06, 2015
Which people denied it? I read a full translation of his visit to the sudan and i only remember the author noting it was unlikely that he visited mali and jenne.
Culture / Re: Mixed People Arent Black- Must Listen by PAPAAFRICA: 6:22pm On Jun 19, 2015
OdenigboAroli:


Broda ,Tommy Sotomayor is the realest black man I know and he is NO coon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNvF2_2aaQo&app=desktop

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Culture / Re: Amazing Pictures From Nigeria's Present by PAPAAFRICA: 7:58am On May 16, 2015
kingston277:
Nigeria's past was where its at.
pretty sure this is from precolonial ghana. It even says precolonial ghana in the url for the image.

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Culture / Re: Amazing Pictures From Nigeria's Present by PAPAAFRICA: 7:57am On May 16, 2015
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Culture / Re: Lavatory Usage By Workers In Public Places by PAPAAFRICA: 7:46pm On Feb 05, 2015
weird, never knew anything like this actually happens.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 6:42am On Dec 14, 2014
RandomAfricanAm:


Actually I'm a bit disappointed because there are deep issues no one is hitting. Though I don't really blame anyone here. I actually keep kicking myself because I don't feel like making the contribution I should be making.

I'm trying to cox myself into it right now actually.
you should post whatever you were thinking of posting, you make great contributions.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 10:07pm On Dec 13, 2014
Thread took an interesting twist.
Culture / Re: Teacher, Pupils Flee As Undergraduate Buries 25 Raw Eggs In School Premises by PAPAAFRICA: 10:00pm On Dec 07, 2014
Lol wtf theyre just eggs
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 5:00am On Nov 16, 2014
https://i.imgur.com/myZBQkG.jpg
This is from the chapter about the malian empire and mansa musa,The farba was the overseer of his slaves.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 4:52am On Nov 16, 2014
GenBuhari:
What year was this book written? was it written in English by any chance?
begun in the late 1400s completed in the early 1600s, authored by mahmud kati and his descendants. It was written in arabic and then translated into french and english
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 3:58am On Nov 16, 2014
GenBuhari:
The evidence PapaAfrica presented does not prove that Africa kept and traded slaves.

first it has not been established that the white man had not already entered taken over parts of Africa during the period the of the books. In the absence to clarity that Europeans have not yet entered Africa what prove is there that the author was indeed African?

In any case without being directed to the exact part that slavery was mentioned how can we verify PapaAfrica's evidence? Or is he expecting us to comb through the books searching for that particular mention?

My view is that it is better come to terms with the fact that you do not have records of your ancient history than to accept an unproven and shameful and dishonourable history about us written by European who are our historical enemy.

Do you agree? Or would you rather accept the shameful history written about you by the white man?
you wouldnt have to comb through anything, pick a random page in the book and you wont go five minutes without the word "slave" being mentioned.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 12:32am On Nov 16, 2014
GenBuhari:
Can you all tell me which country you are from?





jamaica
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 6:08am On Nov 15, 2014
GenBuhari:
Which sources is that?

The question I posed was did slavery exist prior to the advent of Europeans in Africa?
Has the ancient historical documents of our ancestors confirm that they kept and traded slaves before the first Europeans claimed to have set foot in Africa?

If your source does not meet these criteria, then we can not rely on them.
tarikh al fattash was began early enough and mentions slavery when it recounts the history of the malian empire and mansa musa who reigned from 1307 to 1332.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 8:11am On Nov 13, 2014
What are we arguing about now? Slavery existed in africa according to two african sources.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 7:58pm On Nov 11, 2014
GenBuhari:
Just a question: are you a black African?
yes.

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Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 8:10am On Nov 11, 2014
Taf records history from 1493 to 1599 and the Tas records history from roughly the same time as Taf to 1613. Tas was started around the end of the 1500s and taf iirc around the end of the 1400s and was finished in the early 1600s(begun by the original author, mahmud kati, and completed by his descendants). They werent written before the 15th century but these sahelian africans had never had any real contact with europeans, they were too deep inland, most of the people in the sahels first contact with large amounts of europeans would be during the morracan invasion of the songhay empire being that most of the morrocan army were spanish mercenaries. Taf even mentions the spanish mercenaries being the first europeans the songhay elite had seen. I would give you the things that you asked for but i own a physical copy of Taf and a digital version of Tas but i dont have access to a computer, only a phone. When i can get on a computer ill probably give you some screen shots but to give you an idea of the magnitude of slavery in the sudan at the time heres a quick qoute. "When he(a jurist)entered the home of the askia he found him holding his friday audience, according to the regular ceremony. The eunuchs of the askiya, who numbered around seven hundred stood at attention behind him, each of them dressed in a garment of silk" pg.202 Of Taf.

So roughly 700 eunuchs(these men were slaves incase your wondering) stood behind him in his palace while he gave friday audience. Taf also mentions a story about one of the askiyas slaves dying and leaving behind 500 slaves of his own, a merchant(most likely a berber or arab) wanted to buy them all for 5000 mithqals of gold.
Culture / Re: Africans must Reject White Man's Version Of Our History by PAPAAFRICA: 7:09pm On Nov 10, 2014
GenBuhari:
Yes really!
Provide the ancient historical records of our ancestors to prove your point!
Do not forget Africans have had hundreds of years of Europeans controlling the history we teach in our schools so oral traditions are very meaningless. Can you present "oral tradition" as evidence in a court of law? have you heard of "chinese whispers"?

Because the Mobee family want to make money from tourism they can say whatever they want. Forget their relics, let them produce authentic historical records that show that they kept slaves before the arrival of the first white man.

The accounts of the Africans who were shipped can only be relevant if these account are from the first few shipments of Africans i.e from around the 15th Century. Because if they were from after Africa had been conquered, you cannot say a colonised people can freely sell slaves to their colonial masters.

Who is telling lies? I am simply saying that version of history we have been told must be rejected unless it is coming from our own authentic ancient historical records.

Who allows their enemy to write their history for them?

If you have any authentic source of ancient African historical records kept by our ancestors then drop the link here and let us check it out.
tarikh al sudan, written by a berber of timbuktu and Tarikh al fattash ,written by a sonninke of timbuktu all mention slavery. It was a real commonplace.
Culture / Re: Paintings Of The Moors Of Europe by PAPAAFRICA: 1:48am On Oct 25, 2014
Alot of these paintings arent set in europe.
Culture / Re: Why Is The Colour Black Always Associated With Evil? by PAPAAFRICA: 9:26am On Oct 05, 2014
KnightOfLaif:


SMH...
no response yeye boy?

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Culture / Re: Mansa Musa: The First Coon by PAPAAFRICA: 8:44am On Sep 28, 2014
You already made a thread discussing the same topic. You and physics had a nice drawn out exchange.
Culture / Re: 10 most Beautiful Benin Artifacts(pictures) by PAPAAFRICA: 7:33pm On Sep 03, 2014
#3 is from nupe.
Culture / Re: Racism, The Rational & Logical Response To Black Behavior (philosophical Debate) by PAPAAFRICA: 8:28am On Aug 27, 2014
itstpia1:


i wonder where you got your hardcore racism form.

were you taught it by your parents?
isnt pleep black?
Culture / Re: Racism, The Rational & Logical Response To Black Behavior (philosophical Debate) by PAPAAFRICA: 9:44pm On Aug 24, 2014
Lol
Culture / Re: Islam Is Arab Tribalism/nationalism by PAPAAFRICA: 7:46am On Aug 21, 2014
Howmanage: really? Never heard this before...
from wikipedia

"The name was previously used by pagan Meccans as a reference to a creator deity, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia"
Culture / Re: Did West Africans Develop Cast Iron In Pre-colonial Times? by PAPAAFRICA: 5:01am On Jul 06, 2014
Bacon when describing the work of the Punitive Expedition says bow
and arrows were seen, but never was an arrow fired. The arrows found were
poisoned, but the nature of the poison is unknown (p. 57). Dr. F. N. Roth, how-
ever, mentions an old man using bow and arrows. Fawckner observed two or three
pieces of cannon, of British and Portuguese manufacture ; but they were not
mounted (p. 81), and ''was credibly informed that they could make muskets, with
the exception of the lock, in great perfection.
"
Great Benin Pg.124

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Culture / Re: Homosexuality: A Reality Africa Needs To Face by PAPAAFRICA: 11:54am On Jul 03, 2014
Homosexuality made illegal in Nigeria, mean while your power is still out. Lol.
Culture / Re: Ile-ife, Final Rest Place Of Oba Of Benin? (picture). by PAPAAFRICA: 11:47am On Jul 03, 2014
All of this is speculation, oral history is definitly a challenging form of history.
Religion / Re: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by PAPAAFRICA: 2:09pm On Jan 07, 2014
Noahs ark wasn't real, sorry niggas.
Culture / Re: Benin Art And Architecture by PAPAAFRICA: 11:51pm On Jan 04, 2014
Nyumba:

mmm, ok. But I think something is still there, it just needs to be digged up
you may be right.

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