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IslamRe: Sheikh Zakzaky Speaks On The Anti-Islam Movie And Response Of Nigerian Muslims by ParisLove1: 12:03pm On Sep 21, 2012
^ howdy Mac, Juma'at Mubarak grin
IslamRe: Sheikh Zakzaky Speaks On The Anti-Islam Movie And Response Of Nigerian Muslims by ParisLove1: 11:50am On Sep 21, 2012
Islam's religious leaders must be caught between rage and despair now. Hahahahahah tongue Rage for all the obvious reasons, but despair also because there are no lightening bolts from the sky, no army of angelic hosts sent to avenge Muhammad's honor,shocked not even a good flood, earthquake, or plague to teach those nasty infidels a lesson. grin All Islam has now are impotent old men who rely on their semi-literate thugs to threaten violence on others who dare criticize them. angry

At this point we should keep hammering home this message and maybe, just maybe, Muslims will begin to realize that raving like lunatics and destroying everything around them is not exactly the best way to respond. cool

PS; am just exercising my freedom of speech that's enshrined in the constitution of federal republic of Nigeria. No offense...
IslamRe: Lodge Your Complaints Here by ParisLove1: 9:41am On Sep 21, 2012
tbaba1234: https://www.nairaland.com/1053141/5-examples-supreme-muslim-tolerance

Front page Please!!
Abeg your sorry thread has been debunked. Front page indeed.

@mod why is the spam bot banning me here and there in this section? And since it's the work of spambot to detect spamming, why did you ban me(or was it me?) for 3 months cus of that? You ran 0ut of every reasonable excuse to ban abi? #Godiswatchingyou#
cheesy tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: Girls Beat-up Iran Cleric Over Dress Code by ParisLove1:
LagosShia: Burn The Daughter!
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."(Leviticus 21:9)

Cut Off Her Hand!
"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her."(Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

Female Births Get Penalty
"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

Female Inferiority
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

Jesus Will Kill Children
"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Kill The Witches!
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)

Ra.pe My Daughter
"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go."(Judges 19:24-25)

Silence The Woman!
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

Stone The Woman!
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you."(Deuteronomy 22:24)

Virgin's Worth
"If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silvers, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days." (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

Wives, Submit Yourselves!
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

Women Shall Not Speak
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."(I Corinthians 14:34-35)

Women's Sorrow
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)

Rip Up Pregnant Women
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)

The Wicked Woman
"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through overmuch liberty." (Eccles. 26:9-10)"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued." (Eccles. 26:14-15)"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord." (Eccles.26:25)"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14)

Shave Off Her Hair!
"For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered".(1 Corinthians 11:6)Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;(Deuteronomy 21:12)
First of all most of the verses you quote re old testaments which was referring to Isrealites living under the law. It no longer applies to Christians as NT made it clear several times
John1:17 God gave the law through moses, but grace and truth came through Christ.

So with Jesus’ atonement, we are no longer required to
keep the Law. We are not under Law, but grace ( Rom.
6:14-15)

The rest of your quotes are warning to sinners. Can you say your allah let sinners go free?

You also quoted 1corintians i don't know what you're saying by that as the verse made it clear if the woman does not cover her head, she might as well cut her hair, but since it's a shameful thing for a woman to shave her hair, she should cover it. Then verse 16 says her long hair is given unto her as her covering.

But since you the decided to play the 'you too' argument,let's play it.

*. its being lawful for men to have four wives, but for a woman to have only one husband;
Surah4:3
If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four;

*“When Eve ate fruit which He had forbidden to her from the tree in Paradise, the Lord, be He praised, cursed women with eighteen punishments one of which is:
* menstruation;
Surah2:222
They question thee (O
Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say it is an illness:O

beat them
Surah4:34
...As to those women On whose part
ye fear Disloyalty and ill-conduct Admonish them (first)],
(Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them

Lock them away till death take their poor soul.
Surah415
Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse of your women confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way.

Women re majority in hell
Bukhari 7.62.125
"Then I saw the (Hell) Fire, and I have never before, seen such a horrible sight as that, and I saw that the majority of its dwellers were women."

Angels will curse women
Bukhari 4.54.450
Allah's Apostle said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning." Bukhari 4.54.450

It is hilarious to think that the angels have nothing better to do than sit around and curse the poor woman all the night for depriving them from watchingthe live Indecency show. If Allah must punish woman for not satisfying the sexual needs of their husbands whydoes he needs angels to lobby him for it? Isn’t it a waste of angel’s resources?
In one sense this is all truly very funny. But in another, much larger sense, it is a tragedy.
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And can you please show us the verse that deals about ®ape? Seems allah left that out
Foreign AffairsEditor Rejects Responsibility For Violence Over Unclad Muhammad Cartoons by ParisLove1(op):
‘I’m not the one going into the streets with stones and Kalashnikovs’: Charlie Hebdo editor rejects responsibility for violence over naked Mohammad cartoons

The editor of French magazine Charlie Hebdo has said that when his magazine ridiculed the Prophet Mohammad on Wednesday by portraying him naked in cartoons, he and his organization were not responsible for fuelling the anger of Muslims around the world who are already incensed by a video depicting him as a lecherous fool.
The editor, Stephane Charbonnier, also known as Charb, rejected criticism. “ We have the impression that it’s officially allowed for Charlie Hebdo to attack the Catholic far-right but we cannot poke fun at fundamental Islamists ,” he said.

“It shows the climate. Everyone is driven by fear , and that is exactly what this small handful of extremists who do not represent anyone want: to make everyone afraid, to shut us all in a cave,” he told Reuters.

“Muhammad isn’t sacred to me,” he said in an interview at the weekly’s offices on the northeast edge of Paris. “I don’t blame Muslims for not laughingat our drawings. I live under French law; I don’t live under Koranic law .”

Charbonnier said he had no regrets and felt no responsibility for any violence.

“I’m not the one going into the streets with stones and Kalashnikovs,” he said. “We’ve had1,000 issues and only three problems, all after front pages about radical Islam.”

One cartoon alluded to the scandal over a French magazine’s publication of topless photos of the wife of Britain’s Prince William. It showed a bare female torso topped by a beard with the caption “Riots in Arab countries after photos of Mrs Mohammad are published”....


For more [url=http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/19/im-not-the-one-going-into-the-streets-with-stones-and-kalashnikovs-charlie-hebdo-editor-rejects-responsibility-for-violence-over-naked-mohammad-cartoons/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NP_Top_Stories+%28National+Post+-+Top+Stories%29][size=30pt]Read More[/size] [/url]

Foreign AffairsRe: Girls Beat-up Iran Cleric Over Dress Code by ParisLove1: 1:07am On Sep 21, 2012
odehaj: "Koran which most Moslems call it Prophet Mohammed's only miracle was written by Ottoman, the third Khalif some twenty-five to sixty years following the death of the Prophet. Therefore, the Holly book of Koran is nothing but a collection of "I heard him say" "-Parvin(Iranian apostate).@hadbak:IF YOU LIKE, LIVE & DIE IN YOUR ILLUSIONS.
Word!!
IslamRe: How Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) Would've Reacted To The Film That Mocked Him by ParisLove1: 3:12pm On Sep 20, 2012
So as you can see the sources make it very clear that these 2 not only mocked the prophet and insulted him, they also INSTGATED their people to attack and harm the Muslims! Hence these people were not mere poets writing mocking poems, they were inciting violence and hatred against the Muslims! They were inciting their people to rise up to fight and kill the Muslim population, and this made them direct enemy combatants because they were inciting violence against the Muslims. Therefore as we can see, there is nothing wrong in what was done against them, they brought it on themselves, you don't have to hold a sword to be an enemy or an enemy combatant, inciting violence and instigating violence is just as bad and is the exact same thing. Even in today's world men who preach ?hate' and incite violence will be arrested and imprisoned.

[American Trust Publications, USA 1976; Malaysian edition by IslamicBook Trust], p. 243; source)
Lol is that your source @ bolded? America trust publications?? grin Why didn't you quote from the Sira itself? Since you did not I'll take the pleasure of doing that.

FROM THE SIRAT RASUL ALLAH (THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET OF GOD), BY IBN ISHAQ (1), page 675:
SALIM B. UMAYR'S EXPEDITION TO KILL ABU AFAK
Abu Afak was one of the B. Amr b. Auf of the B. Ubayda clan. He showed his disaffection when the apostle killed al-Harith b. Suwayd b. Samit and said:
"Long have I lived but never have I seen
An assembly or collection of people
More faithful to their undertaking
And their allies when called upon
Than the sons of Qayla when they assembled,
Men who overthrew mountains and never submitted,
A rider who came to them split them in two (saying)
"Permitted", "Forbidden", of all sorts of things.
Had you believed in glory or kingship
You would have followed Tubba.

[NOTE: the Tubba was a ruler from Yemen who invaded that part of what is present Saudi Arabia: the Qaylites resisted him]

The apostle said, "Who will deal with this rascal for me?" Whereupon Salim b. Umayr, brother of B. Amr b.Auf, one of the "weepers", went forth and killed him. Umama b. Muzayriya said concerning that:
You gave the lie to God's religion and the man Ahmad! [Muhammad]
By him who was your father, evil is the son he produced!
A "hanif" gave you a thrust in the night saying
"Take that Abu Afak in spite of your age!"
Though I knew whether it was man or jinn
Who slew you in the dead of night (I would say naught).


Afak urged the people who lived in Medina to doubt and leave Muhammad. Afak found that Muhammad's sayings were strange and dictatorial. He chided the Arabs that put their faith in Muhammad. Muhammad heard of this and viewed the 120 year old man as a threat to his credibility, not to his life. Nowhere does itsay that Afak urged his fellow Arabs to attack or harm Muhammad. Certainly a 120 year old man was not a physical threat to Muhammad or his followers.

What I find interesting is the last statement in Umama b. Muzayriya's verse:
"Though I knew whether it was man or jinn
Who slew you in the dead of night (I would say naught)."


This statement displays that the Muslims knew exactly what they were doing. They knew it was cold-blooded murder that they were doing at Muhammad's request. They wanted to keep it secret, they wanted to hide their evil deeds from the populace at large. That's why Umama said he wouldn't reveal who murdered Afak. The line [b]"Take that Abu Afak in spite of your age!" [/b]also indicates a certain bad conscience about this deed even though it is overlayed with triumphalism trying to silencing this inner voice indicating that this was wrong.


So lemme ask; (1)What does it say about Muhammad that he would have a 120 year old man murdered because he urged his fellow citizens to doubt his message and not to follow him?
2)
Yes, Abu Afak was a threat to Muhammad's credibility.But did he deserve to be murdered, in cold blood, in the night, secretly, while he was sleeping? Was his opinion that much of a threat to Muhammad? Didn't the angels help Muhammad at the Battle of Badr? If so, why was Muhammad afraid of a 120 year old man?
3)
Are these "Islamic" values compatible with the values in America? Should Americans who criticize Muhammad expect to have their freedom of speech threatened, or should they live in fear of being killed for speaking their mind? Remember, Muslims in America have already begun to murder Americans for the sake of their religion, both abroad and in the USA itself.
IslamRe: French Weekly Publishes Cartoons Insulting The Prophet (sa) by ParisLove1: 10:16am On Sep 20, 2012
LagosShia: So reauters and all major news outlets are lying?

Or you want to post the cartoons here? I hope if you do that will give you a forever ban.
Asalam Aleikum my brother. I didn't say all the major media outlets are lying. You know how this western media re, they go about publishing stories that boko haram, al queda all this terrorists are muslims but we all know the truth. Its only fair to give them an element of doubt. Well i have dug around and the story is true after all. I found the website of the newspaper that published the blasphemy. It has the cartoons and all in it, it's all french by the way. Here: http://www.bivouac-id.com/billets/les-nouvelles-caricatures-de-charlie-hebdo/
Foreign AffairsRe: French Magazine Risks Muslim Anger With Mohammed Cartoons by ParisLove1: 9:25am On Sep 20, 2012
Ayoobscom: When kufars (unbelievers) stones at the prophet and God asks the noble prophet Mohammed (saw) through angel Jibril.''those people stoning at you o my Ahmad my chosen one, ask of me any wrath and I will unleash on them..and guess what the prophet has to say..he says O Allah punish them not but showeth them the right path so they may not die ignorant,so that they may turn to know you and be amongst the righteous (Muslims)Jazakalahu Khairan
i read a muslim quote this some time and here is what Ali Sina asked/told him. [b] This actually proves that Muhammad was a narcissist. Did anyone but Muhammad hear Gabriel making such an offer? How do we know that Muhammad did not make up this tale to soothe his wounded ego? Isn’t this a typical response of a child (all children have high doses of narcissism) when humiliated and cannot retaliate? Here we have a classic case of a narcissist response. He is beaten up and disgraced and he takes a high moral ground to assuage his injured pride.
Can you point out to a single incident where Gabriel destroyed a city or harmed anyone? No, there is none. All the destructions were made by Muhammad and his befooled marauding gang of thugs.
If Gabriel was able to sandwich a city between two mountains why he did not protect Muhammad from those stones that you say were hurled at him and wounded him? He could stop those stones hitting the prophet, couldn’t he? He could make them miss him, pulverize them before they reach him or convert them into cotton balls. These miracles would have been a lot easier than moving two montains and they may have helped the people of Taif to see that Muhammad is really a prophet.
These are simple questions that if a Muslim dares to ask, he or she will come to see the fraud of Muhammad. Why Gabriel did not save Muhammad from humiliation? Tell us please in which instance Gabriel did anything that we can know he is real and not a figment of Muhammad’s hallucination. Which city he destroyed? Which man he killed?
Tell us why when Gabriel is so capable of moving two mountains to crush a city in between them, all the killings had to be done by the Muslims? Why convert ordinary people into bloodthirsty murderous beasts when if it had been Allah’s will to kill the kafirs he can without the help from humans? Or is it that Allah’s power is limited to deceiving people?
Wouldn’t it have been more impressive if Allah destroyed a city on his own without the intervention of a bunch of bloodthirsty believers after his prophet fixed the date of its destruction? How can we know that Muhammad and his gang of jihadists were not inspired by Satan? All their actions were satanic – raiding, looting, rapin. Are these divine actions? Is God so helpless to depend on Muhammad’s gang of believers to do his dirty work? What is the difference between Allah and a mafia godfather? Both are helpless without their followers. Both commit their crimes through their proxies – men who become their devotees and do their biddings. Is this the kind of God you worship? Muslims are not worshipping God but Satan.
[/b] any muslim can answer cheesy tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: French Magazine Risks Muslim Anger With Mohammed Cartoons by ParisLove1: 7:33am On Sep 20, 2012
NeuroBoss: Where are the MacLatunji's of this world? I'm dying to know their take on this. PISS!cheesy
Okija_juju: This is Politics section.. That Hezbollah Taliban Mujahadeen has no Jurisdiction here... Thats why people are free to say how they really feel.. I can imagine him sitting in front of his Laptop boiling angry, his AK-47 in his left hand firing at the roof of his house..
Lwkmdfor here o grin cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: French Magazine Risks Muslim Anger With Mohammed Cartoons by ParisLove1: 7:32am On Sep 20, 2012
tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: US Agency Expelled From Russia by ParisLove1:
bilms: here is the link. bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19644897
It's not working

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IslamRe: French Weekly Publishes Cartoons Insulting The Prophet (sa) by ParisLove1: 6:49am On Sep 20, 2012
Nawa o
No picture

No prove

No nothing

What kind of baseless accusation is this? SMH
angry
IslamRe: Repaying The Blasphemy. by ParisLove1: 6:43am On Sep 20, 2012
Photoshopped + wishful thinking. You really think Allah can pull a stunt like that? tongue
IslamRe: To Muslims who react violently to Video against Prophet Muhammed (SAW) by ParisLove1: 8:19pm On Sep 17, 2012
To all non-Muslims, if you cannot spell Allah or God with initial caps as you would for any other proper noun, get ready for appropriate sanctions.
What of those muslims that do spell "jesus" without initial caps as they would do for "Allah or "God"? Will they get appropriate sanctions. Or does it not apply to them?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

The basic principle of humanity.

I wonder if your "noble" prophet taught you that.

Shalom
cheesy

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