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maclatunji: Your ignorance is on a grand scale. Compare and contrast the terms 'Messenger' and 'Prophet'. This simple assignment will erase your false assertions.


And no, you are not allowed to say "whatever you want". Observe the rules.

Please enlighten me, that's what the thread's for. Which one is Muhammad? A prophet or a messenger?

Muhammad Qasim: First OF All you mind your language... Do not ever ever say anything to Muhammad (s.a.w.w)
and second of all you are not a muslim .. In Quran it is said That Hazrat Isa(jesus) will come as an
ummati of HAzrat Muhammad (s.a.w.w) And listen Hazrat Muhammad(s.a.w.w) is the noor(light) of Allah ..
Then IF Allah is God of all universe then automatically His Noor Hazrat Muhammad (s.a.w.w) Is Messenger OF all Universe..
IN Quran It is written That To believe in Allah you should BElieve Hazrat Muhammad S.a.W.W .. now is this is not your answer you should go to hell ... and the Book In which christian believe is Bible was an islamic book revieled on Prophets of Allah .. And after them it was changed by the persons..

First of all my language is civil enough and i can say anything i want about muhamad. Secondly not being a muslim makes no difference. Thirdly, i dont understand what you re trying to say. What is all these noor, hazrat, ummatin, s.a.w, s.e.e. Can you explain yourself in a language in i can understand? Or "go to hell" the only thing you can come up with?

Not lets establish points of the thread.

1) muhammad claimed to be the last prophet after him no other would return. He was the seal according to him.
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets : and God has full knowledge of all things. (The Noble Quran, 33:40) "

2) Jesus who is also a prophet will ruturn for the second to abolish disbelief. Something muhammad was supposed to do but failed. Now wouldnt that make Jesus the last prophet and the seal of prophets?
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said "How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the Law of Gospel?" (Fateh-ulBari page304 and 305 Vol 7). ( Sahih al-Bukhari , Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658 )
3) Finally Here Allah is promising that he will senda beast to bring his message to mankind.
And when the word is fulfilled concerning them,We shall bring forth a beast of the earth to speak unto thembecause mankind had not faith in Our revelations. (27:82)
Doesn’t this belie everything he has said in all those above-mentioned verses? Do beasts of the earth speak Arabic better than angels? What kind of beast will be this messenger of Allah?
Then again didn’t Muhammad claim to be the last prophet? (33:40)If he was the last one to bring us a message from God, then what is this beast going to be? If this beast is going to bring us a message, he is a messenger and the title of Khatama alnnabiyyeen(the last of prophets) that Muhammad claimed for himself should go to this animal. If 33:40is right then the verse 27:82 must be wrong.

I hope you come with a resonable response other than "go to hell"

RoyPCain: @pointblank 321; abuse is when they lie against him [sa], by distortion, not telling the whole truth, making up stuffs, etc. you wanna criticize dont lie. lying is abuse in this case.



@Paris Love; Muhammad [sa] did not kill his critics. but the critics committed other offenses which they lost their lives for because of the weight of Justice was exerted.

a person who insulted a just leader will not have any problem committing heinous crime against any citizenry. so if he is punished for the crime against the citizenry somebody my erroneously advance the criminal was punished for mere criticism of the leader, forgetting the real crime he was duly punished.

if you have evident to the contrary, please present it.


i tender my first exhibit in support of my statement;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFqwp1bs5Dw

In your 1st post you claimed your prophet didn't hurt those that criticized him. And now you are telling me they got punished. Which of the two claims am i supposed to believe now?

And if i may ask, what was their crime? How exactly were they punished? Were they given fair trial? Was muhammad the leader of arabia or just a religious leader?

Sorry, i couldn't watch your video.

RoyPCain: all these mad and intolerant people. they have bastardized Islam. while i am not saying that the abuse of the prophet [sa] or any religious figure for that matter is fair game, the prophet [sa] however was insulted in his lifetime. he did not hurt anyone for that reason. proof;; Ali bin Abitalib [ra] took a page from his [sa] example by letting the man who spat in his face lived even on the field of battle in a war between Muslims and disbelievers. it is the logical meekness of the muslims, especially of the prophet [sa] was one of the human experiences that brought people in drove into Islam.

What are you saying? All Muhammad's critics during his time were killed with his blessing and support.

A British TV channel has been fined £105,000 after it aired a live lecture byan Islamic scholar who allegedly advocated killing people who insult the prophet Muhammad.
Manchester-based station DM Digital, which describes itself as Britain's most-watched Asian channel, broadcast the one-hour programme in Urdu in October 2011.
The Islamic scholar can be heard telling his audience: "I hail those who made this law [Pakistan's blasphemy law] which states that one who insults the Prophet deserves to be killed – such a person should be eliminated."
Ofcom's English-language translation of his lecture suggest he also told viewers: "If someone takes a step in the love of the Prophet, then this is not terrorism."
On Friday, the media regulator said it had fined DM Digital £85,000 for airing the scholar's remarks and a further £20,000 for a separate programme. The channel has also been ordered to broadcast a statement by Ofcom.
Ofcom said: "The programme Rehmatul Lil Alameen featured a live lecture by an Islamic scholar, which included material that Ofcom considered was likely to encourage or incite the commission of crime or to lead to disorder.
"This was because, on a reasonable interpretation of the scholar's remarks, Ofcom considered he was advocating that all Muslims had a duty to attack or kill apostates or those perceived to have insulted the Prophet."
DM Digital last May became the first UK broadcaster censured by Ofcomfor airing material "likely to encourage orincite the commission of crime or to lead to disorder".
http://guardiannews.com/media/2013/jul/05/dm-digital-fined-ofcom

greetings: Ancient Arabs buried their newly born daughters.

It was Islam that uplifted the status of women.

Ancient Arabs may have practiced infanticide but it wasn't common. How come they were able to marry up to 9 wives if they buried their newly born daughters till mo arrived and saved the day?

It gave women rights they never had before.

Like?

Surah Nissah exhorts believing men to lower their gaze if a lady is passing by. (because she is to be RESPECTED) Similarly, there are exhortations for women to lower their gaze if strange men are around. The Quran also speaks about the hijab for men and women to protect the modesty. The hijab for men is to cover their bodies minimally from their navel to the knees. The hijab for women is to cover their whole bodies except for their faces and hands below their wrists. There are descriptions for a female hijab, that it should cover the endowments including head, not be tight, not be transparent, not be like the clothes of non-believers, and not be like the clothes of the other gender, etc.

Why do men get to cover 'minimally'? Your so called modesty is not expected of them?

Women got the right to own, inherit property, and to dispose it of at will.

Rights they previously lacked?

Let me ask you a question: Suppose two identical twin sisters are walking down a street, and one of them is dressed in revealing clothing, while the other one is wearing a hijab. Who will be boys in the street whistle at or tease: the one who is scantily dressed in a mini-skirt, or the one who is modestly attired? The answer is obvious. The hijab is designed to prevent women from being molested. It brings peace to society and prevents mischief.

Masha allah, muslims are finally catching up with modern technology. So they've started producing armoured hijabs that prevent molestation? If i get you right, women bring moslestation on themselves because what they're wearing? Contrary to your arguement that hijab prevents sexual harrassment, its not the case in Egypt a muslim majority country.

The day I met Marwa, she was wearing a long headscarf pinned like a wimple under her chin, and a loose flowing dress with long sleeves over baggy trousers.
But dressing conservatively is no longer a protection, according to Dina Farid of the campaign group Egypt's Girls are a Red Line.
She says even women who wear the full-face veil - the niqab - are being targeted.
"It does not make a difference at all. Most of Egyptian ladies are veiled [with a headscarf] and most of them have experienced sexual harassment.
"Statistics say that most of the women or girls who have been sexually harassed have been veiled or completely covered up with the niqab."
http://bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19440656

You would agree with me that men are attracted to women mostly because of what they see.sometimes could be just the eyes or even the gap between the teeth,confirming that all parts of woman's body is her awrah (unclothedness).

You don't think it's demeaning and perverted to see all parts of woman's body as nákedness?

As Shifaa bint Abdullahi was appointed by Umar (ra) as officer in charge of marketplace and most likely the first woman to hold a public office in makkah.Islam gave her those rights even when she was previously subjugated.

Lets take for Khadijah example, prior to marring Muhammad was a business woman who had made a fortune running her own trading business and who had many men at her service. Can women succeed in any Islamic country the way Khadijah succeeded in a pagan society? Was there a single woman after Khadijah in any Islamic country during these 1400 years that has rivaled her success? The answer is no! Doesn’t this prove that there are fewer opportunities in Islamic world for women than what Khadijah had in a pagan world? Apparently, the closest we've come is Ms Shiffa who was appointed officer in charge of marketplace.

Lastly,you asked why Muslim women cover with masks the answer is above. And i hope it answers your question.

As it turns out they were pretty lame

Vol-IV THE BOOK OF CONSTRUCTIVE VIRTUES 431 be pleased with. The Prophet said : If an inmate of Paradise will wish to have a son born to him, he will get it. Its stay in womb, its weaning away from milk and its youth will come to pass at the same time. He also said : The inmantes of Paradise will be beardless and hairless. Their colour will be white and their eyes painted with collyrium. They will be youths of 33 years of age. They will be sixty cubits long and seven cubits broad. He also said : The lowest rank of an inmate of Paradise will have eighty thousand servants and seventy two wives. In short there will be such bliss in Paradise which no eye has seen, no ear has heard and no heart has conceived.
Ihya' 'Ulum al-Din(Revival of Religious Sciences) written by a Great Muslim Philosopher, Sufi/Mystic, professor and scholar, Top most expert of that time “Imam Al-Ghazali”

NL member: Also the Koranic verses describing houris usually say that houris are so fair of skin that their bone marrows are visible through their skins

ahh so they are going to see the inside anatomy of their female sex partners? Eww gross! It sounds fetish.
Weird.

I hope they won't deport the women like they did last year for daring to travel alone with no male company in 21st century. All the billions spent by the govt would be a total waste.

Sponsoring pilgrimages is a waste itself. Maybe they should sponsor space missions.

Deen4me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTAQnzfAo0g

This is a typical example of how the media is targeting Islam and Muslims

No Media outlet bothered to cover this incident.

Now Imagine if the Man was muslim...

Food For Thought

aww no media coverage? Even from aljeezera, press tv etc?

Muslim terrorists get more media attention because they carry out more terror attacks(as a religious obligation.) It's not a rocket science.

All acts of terrorism should be condemned. Now i don't mean condemning every muslim even though popular muslim cleric said 'every muslim should be a terrorist'.

That's great. Get well soon

COOL DK: Assalam Alaikum Waramotullah Wabarakatuhu!

Yes!, the Quran talks about damsels, but in a context that most people especially the non-Muslims have misrepresented and always paint in a derogatory manner to suit their interests and purposes. There is no where in the Qur’an where 70 virgins

Are the damsels not virgins? And if they're not 70 how many are they? 4, 50? 120? Uncountable?

@fellis see you don't have to worry about inequality in paradise anymore when you can desire equality and get it. You can also wish for your own 82 hot dudes and get it or a single spouse as the case may be. See problem solved.

But since it's an open season for wishes lets hope someone else doesn't wish away your equality for women in paradise. Then you'd have to spend most of your time in paradise wishing and countering anti women wishes. And cycle continues...

deols: Actually, I don't see the inequality. I believe in the paradise. I believe in the satisfaction every one would get.

Jealousy, hatred, etc would not be there.

You should not use your earthly feelings to judge this. I used to think that way too. But I don't see that anymore.

If you want something special, to differentiate you from other women, it would be by your deeds.For example, there are many gates in paradise, if you fast often, You might get a special gate.

If you work really hard and you are good enough, there is the al arashi shade for you. If your solaat is good, you have passed thr first test, etc

Why do you do need to fast often for this 'special gate' or the magic shade when you can always wish for anything in that paradise and get it? You can always wish for best freebies allah has got to offer and get it. See this; “They shall have all that they will desire with their Lord. That is the reward of the good doers.” 39:34 For example I don't like running river he promised rather served in bottles. Simply wish it.

tbaba1234: Did muslim women come to complain to you?
.

(Bukhari 7:72:715):
…Aisha said, ‘I have not seen any woman
suffering as much as the muslim women…’

Maybe you should un-stick one these question and answer thread by deols. If anybody has a question, the person can at least open a thread and ask it.

It encourages discussion and probably boosts traffic for site owner. Directing everybody with a question to one thread seems like a lame thing to do imho.

Please stick tbaba123456's thread before he gets disillusioned like logicboy series 01-100.

hikmoj: u're jst releasd 4rm psychastrik hom,pls go bak&cmplt ur medication

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crimo4us: You are a full time slowpoke, must you comment if you do not have any good thing to write

That wasn't a comment that was a good question a lot of women are asking. You could've answered it without being abusive. Is your brain full of dust particles?

#smh

fellis: I still need to clarify some things but I will get my answers elsewhere, not here.

Alright. Good luck with that.

fellis: Undeserved ban?

Anyway I'm fine thank you.

You are welcome. So is the answer to your questions here satisfactory?