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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:27pm On Dec 02, 2021
afrodoc2:
You get full mind. Na your type dey plot coup.

This Carrick wey I see so, I no fit get that kind mind. grin
Hehehe
SportsRe: Guardiola Blasts Critics Who Claim It’s Unfair To Award Messi The Ballon D’or by patrickmuf(m): 10:44am On Dec 02, 2021
In 2020, most leagues were canceled meaning other players didn't have a fair chance to compete for the Balon d'or even the UCL that was continued was unusual with one off games in the knock out phase and even on neutral grounds.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:41am On Dec 02, 2021
Mikechinos:
The hunt is on
Carrick is taking charge of the game tonight not Rangnick
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:22am On Dec 02, 2021
A40:
No mind these fraudulent people. Ojude Oba tournament oh is what they used to elevate agenda despite Messi being humiliated in every other significant tournament of note, At least myself and Raumdeuter have always been skeptical about these individual awards and everyone is finally seeing the light that's my only concern. Whether Lewandowski wins the award or not we all know only Messisexuals believe Lewandowski was not robbed
Last year Lewandowski deserved it but even then, it can be argued that a lot of leagues were canceled so, other players didn't get a fair chance to compete for the awards.

This year, Messi deserves it just the same way I wouldn't have any qualms if Jorginho or Lewy were handed the award.

The stats and trophies favor any of the 3 contenders but one thing is certain, once Messi won the COPA, it was game over because of the headlines it generated after having been ridiculed for not winning any international trophy with the Argentine senior national team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:33pm On Dec 01, 2021
Havertz10 go say na defense splitting pass, Donstan18 go say na world class finish... grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:32pm On Dec 01, 2021
lipsrsealed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:38pm On Dec 01, 2021
Watford are pressing high up the pitch, can they sustain it?
RomanceRe: Who Mistakenly Saw Your unclothedness And What Was The Reaction? by patrickmuf(m): 6:22pm On Dec 01, 2021
KingTom:
You failed me as well cry
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:08pm On Nov 30, 2021
Jodera:
Ronaldinho won the 2006 balon dor ahead of Henry. He was a Brazilian
Kaka won the balon dor in 2007 ahead of Cristiano. He too was another Brazilian.
Messi won the balon dor in 2009. He's an Argentine

Mind you, balon dor was merged in 2010 grin grin
I think they have split the awards...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:46pm On Nov 30, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Ronaldo is a gentleman, he won't sue that cow. Meanwhile other players are beginning to speak out...
other players and you go ahead to cite quotes from Kroos and Casillas, two players that had it rough with Messi...Kikiki
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:49pm On Nov 30, 2021
nitrogen:
Hmmmm, I hope you are being real right now. A die-hard united fan would rather be on the sidelines watching the two of them fight, than have preference for a player that denied us UCL trophies twice. I mean, I don’t hate Messi, but I won’t ever prefer him to Ronaldo, as long as the latter is still a Utd player and the fact that the former denied us two UCL trophies. No be una fault sha, na Fergie fuvk up.
Messi plays football just the way I like it so, even if he played for Chelsea, City or Liverpool, I'd still have been his biggest fan. Another player I love watching is KDB...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:47pm On Nov 30, 2021
nitrogen:
Go to Barca or PSG thread to drag Ronaldo na. cheesy

Why are you (a Utd fan) dragging your best player because of another club’s best player on our thread? The thing no shock you?
We are celebrating our fav. If Messi can be dragged here, he can also be celebrated...

No sane human will say Ronaldo is a bad player or Messi is...Everything boils down to preference based on an individuals perception of the beautiful game...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:34pm On Nov 30, 2021
TrebleChamp:
So you agree the award is now a scam and has lost relevance? Nothing more to add chief
Was it a scam in 2013?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
slimghost:
You can support your Messi without taking swipes at a player that still wears your jersey.
Y’all may as well follow Messi to PSG.
It's banter with those who troll Messi and his fans here...

I personally do not hate Ronaldo, I'm rooting for him and Manchester United to succeed...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:19pm On Nov 30, 2021
nitrogen:
The hate is real, almost half of united fans don’t like this guy. Messi won, congratulate him and move on, why mock Ronaldo, your own player that did not make top 3? I guess most of the haters are not happy that Ronaldo left to Real Madrid, and wish he does not score for us. But guess what, they low key celebrate when he scores for the team.

This life ehn, na OYO you dey.
There's a difference between preference and hate.

I prefer Messi who alongside his fans gets dragged here but nobody takes it to heart so, I don't get this subtle attempt at guilt tripping...

I can't say you hate Bruno because you prefer Pogba...That's not how it should be.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:59am On Nov 30, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

Jez imagine accidentally jam this Thread nau, Baba go be like; oh Boy I've made a terrible Mistake. I should have joined Man City. These Fans don't worth the Affection I have for this Club.

Without CR7, we won't have made it to UCL next round. Without CR7, we won't have got rid of ineptitude Ole off the Wheel.

Here we are..... so happy happy CT7 missed out on polling Booth Award.
Subtle blackmail bro...

Ronaldo scored and celebrated against us when he was at Juve, it's just normal...

Messi and Ronaldo have been the two top performers for more than a decade now, it's not abnormal to find Manchester United fans supporting Messi especially given the fact that Ronaldo left the club whilst entering the peak of his power.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:51am On Nov 30, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Is Copa America a European competition? Or isn't the Ballon d'Or awarded based on performance in European competitions again? This scam happened in 2010, so it's nothing new...
In 2013 Bayern won the treble with Ribery and Robben starring but Ronaldo was awarded the best player award, you remember?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by patrickmuf(m): 12:34am On Nov 30, 2021
Kbs468:
ESR is the root cause of your observation please as he himself alongside Aubameyang have failed to replicate what Saka and Odegaard were doing on the right flank.

The same anonymous status of ESR against LIVERPOOL once again showed up for ESR except in the last 15 minutes when he began moving around away from his static play originally
Spot on...He was static and only came alive late in the game when he was more mobile...

Watching the game, I was asking myself why Arsenal players and those of my team (Utd) don't press high up the pitch and are so slow in the build up play...I guess it's down to the coaching sha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:27am On Nov 30, 2021
BikeMan:
What about Ribery in 2013?
No mind my guys...

Them say we hate Ronaldo because we prefer Messi...

At some point in their career, Ronaldo was better because he was first to grasp the context of combining goal scoring and fantastic ball playing skills but it was just for a season, Messi quickly understood that stat (Goals and assist) was a major decider and quickly adapted his game...

The difference is that Ronaldo completely changed his game in order for him to score more but Messi was still that fantastic player away from scoring goals...Even at goal scoring, he is better, the stats says so...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:03pm On Nov 29, 2021
Karleb:
Today just proof that there are a lot of guys here who hates Ronaldo.

No wonder they all claimed Ronaldo was a liability yesterday.
Those who talked about Ronaldo are not even Messi fans...

I don't think Expert17, myself or Melody joined the convo...

Leyqute, eph etc are all CR7 fans.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:47pm On Nov 29, 2021
Keep the tears coming...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:46pm On Nov 29, 2021
Expert17:
La 7 Ballon d'or

Cry more cheesy cheesy
Copa DelRey and Copa America are now shit trophies thanks to Ronaldo fan boys...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:38pm On Nov 29, 2021
Maximilan:
We should forget individual stats as well right grin grin cheesy

Let's review the stats for 2021 Ballon D'or;

Goal;
Lewa 51,Messi 43.. let's Break down the these Goals;
Outside the Box Goals- Messi(7), Lewa(4)...... Direct Free kick goals- Messi(5), Lewa(0).... G/A Contribution Messi-52, Lewa-49

Assists;
Messi-17, Lewa-8
Goal contributed of the Club Goals:
Messi-45%, Lewa-39%
Goal Contributed to the National Goals;
Messi-52%, Lewa-50%
Important Goal Contribution;
Goal in knockout stage of their tournaments played;
Messi-4, Lewa-4
However Messi provided 2 more assists in K/O stage; Messi-4, Lewa-2
Goals In Fianl;
Messi-2, Lewa-3(lewa favours this)

International Tournament;
Messi won Copa America, Lewa couldn't make it from Group stage.
Goals in Euro/Copa;
Messi-4(Golden Boot winner), Lewa-3
Assists in Euro/Copa;
Messi-5, Lewa-0

Individual Awards;
Messi-6 , Lewa-4
Lewa's awards consists;
-Club world Cup Golden Ball
-Bundesliga Golden Boot
-Bundesliga Player of the Year
-European Golden Shoe

respectively Messi's awards consists of;
-Copa del Rey MVP
-Pichichi
-Copa America Golden Ball
-Copa America Golden Boot
-Copa America Top Assists
-Copa Player of the Tournament

Trophy;
Lewa-3, Messi-2
Trophies Are:
Lewa- Bundesliga Cup, DFL Supercup, Club world Cup

Messi- Copa del Rey, Copa America

Individual Records;
Messi-5, Lewa: 2,
Messi's records;
-Most International Goals from SA
-Most goals scored for a Single Club
-First Player to win International Trophy as well as Golden Boot, Golden Ball & Top Assists in the history
-Most Consecutive pichichi wins in La liga History
-Most Pichichi won in Laliga History.

Lewa's records;
- Most goals for Bayern for a season
-Most Consecutive Games scores in Bayern.

Other Stats;
Dribbles; Messi-276, Lewa-150
Key Passes- Messi-150, Lewa-49
Big Chances missed: Lewa-30, Messi-14
Big Chances Created ; Messi-34, Lewa-13

These r the stat. Under review for 2021 Ballon D'or.
If Messi isn't winning it, idk what Basis The France Football is giving Ballon d'or .. may On the Basis of Goals?? No! In 2018 Messi has the highest G/A & Also won Treble from the Club.. But he finished becoming 5th in the Ballon d'or race.



Here you go
The eye test does it for me...I watched both and whilst Lewy was fantastic too, Messi was individually better than anyone else...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31pm On Nov 29, 2021
afrodoc2:
Carrick show what signs? Carrick to take over from Ralf? Some of you guys are easily deceived. We played better football in Ole's first 2 games in charge.

Once again, Carrick was training the players under Ole. If he wants to be a manager he should go and learn at a small club, not use us to experiment.
Just like Viktor, they both get carried away easily...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:30pm On Nov 29, 2021
Expert17:
cheesy cheesy grin grin

#LM7
Person win COPA America them dey ask wetin he do...

When you guys were using the lack of international trophies to undermine his achievements, you lots didn't know you were setting him up for greatness when he wins one?

Una never hala...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:28pm On Nov 29, 2021
LostMyZeal:
Our next 10
At least we suppose bag 23 points
Why not 30?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:50pm On Nov 29, 2021
We didn't press at all in the first half, it was after the goal that we tried to up the tempo but it was short lived...

I was expecting Fred to be on Jorginho throughout the game but to my amazement, Bruno was defending against Jorginho...

With the quality of attackers that we had, it was surprising seeing the position Alonso, James and Rudiger took up for the majority of the game...

We need massive improvement o!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:46pm On Nov 28, 2021
This ref no dey give Chelsea players card?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 6:41pm On Nov 28, 2021
iamoyindamola:
Ibime to start jourginho out
Kill the bastard
grin grin
Omo he released Sancho on a platter
Baba nani say na basterd... grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 6:38pm On Nov 28, 2021
We outside...

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:35pm On Nov 28, 2021
E don happen
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:34pm On Nov 28, 2021
Someone should tell Fletcher that it's not the gum that made Fergie who he is...

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