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lastchild:
Yes.

Yes, somebody had to play that role from that 12.

Jesus focus was to come, die and save man. The actors in the journey were the available ones, not predestined.

for example... the soldiers that would flog him were the available ones,not predestined. the king that would sentence him was the available king, not predestined

When pontius pilate asked Jesus, are you king of the Jews?.. We were taught in theology school that the reason Jesus christ kept quite was because he knew that pontius pilate was looking for a way to save him. Meanwhile it was appointed time to die.

in conclusion, people that will go to heaven or hell are not predestined. It is where you make yourself available to go

Do you believe that line in the Bible where God said he knows our end from our very beginning?

lastchild:
He betrayed him. The truth is, someone had to fulfill that role, but no one was the appointed one. That role was open for anyone who would fall victim,Which judas did.

Just like God said he would punish Israel, but would later deal with anyone that makes himself available to use in punishing Israel.

It therefore means it was impossible for all of them to resist the temptation since it was already cast in stone that one of the 12 disciples will betray Jesus...

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I said "Who can not prophecy that a person who drives at the average speed of 180kph from Abuja to Lagos, will have an accident?"

Even you too play the game of pre-determination. You have once said, "make nobody give Wilson moto, hin go scatter am"

You have predetermined Wilson's future, same for Tinunu!

The difference is that while I say Wilson should not be handed the keys based on his person, I can not say 100% that he will scatter the vehicle if he is allowed to ride..However, in the case of Judas, it was certain 100% that the prophecy must be fulfilled.

What do you make of make of that portion of the Bible that says God knows our end from the very beginning? If he already knows Osama Bin Laden was going to bomb the world trade center from the time he was born, will you then call Osama a bad person knowing too well his life trajectory was already predetermined?

Dtruthspeaker:
Who can not prophecy that a person who drives at the average speed of 180kph from Abuja to Lagos, will have an accident?

And it is the driver who is blamed for overspeeding and wreck-full driving.

A prophecy tells what shall happen in the future.

So, Judas was very stupid full to allow himself to be used by Satan (same thing he did to Eve, in using her to destroy the man Adam) to betray The Lord, Th6 Lord Himself. E no Fear even after seeing all the The Lord hath done and Said!

How was he used when it was already predetermined?

Peter that denied Chris thrice, will you call him a sinner too? Remember Jesus told them that one of them will betray him thrice so, it was always going to happen regardless...

Odunharry:
na wah oo.. Una no dey tire for this thread ni.

The thing tire me...

TrebleChamp:
You are too emotional patrick, little wonder Trevor was always getting under your skin with trolling. You really need to check yourself bro. If trolling dey pain you like this on Nairaland, i wonder what it would be like for you in flesh. No carry this tinz for head too much, non of us gets paid for supporting Ronaldo or small goat. All na cruise and fun, for me atleast...

Pain you say? Lol...

This is Manchester United thread and not Ronaldo or Messi thread...You guys need to know when to troll and when not to. This club is not making any headway yet na Ronaldo vs Messi una carry for head. If Messi fans here start the trolling una go say them dey pray make the club lose match just so they can troll but right now it seems you CR7 fanboys hope he scores regardless of whether we lose or not...

The past 15 pages or more is littered with Ronaldo vs Messi posts...This club is bigger than that. The painful part is that even on Madrid and Barcelona thread where the two greats gave their all is not littered with this sort of arguments...Make una rest abeg.

Expert17:
Lol, I hope the goals will stop Messi from winning the league bcuz by May - I reserve my comment

Baba leave those clowns to their faith...

Manchester United will win, lose or draw but instead of us talking about the game, they'll rather start comparing Ronaldo to Messi...

Itsrm:
I thought Pep figured out Klopp already

Ask it my guy...

Birthday blessings TrebleChamp...

Expert17:
The same Nagelsmann some guys want as OLE replacement

If we do same for every coach, no one will be worth it...

ChristoBam did it for ETH and it seemed like he was not good enough...

Unlimited22:
That's sugarcoating it. He was atrocious.

We dey only talk am small small because he's Kante.

I cursed him out because I was supporting Chelsea to advance...

Kante was poor...

Raumdeuter, when you dey analyze weakest team, you no factor Bayern o!

This life eh!

Crazy game...Game of the season already...

Kovacic has been massive and Werner, he never stops trying...

See how I come dey support Chelsea...I no just like Madrid sha.

Chelsea dey try abeg...Super impressed.

Hope say donstan18 no dey pray make Havertz no score and the famous 5 no dey their own end dey pray make Mount no score again?

I am here to read from a certain Donstan18

LostMyZeal:
We pledge to expose una fave fraud IJN

At some point you'll realize that you're only wasting your time and flooding this thread with irrelevant information...

Person no go read another thing for here again because una no fit respect the fact say everybody get their own right to their choices...

You argue everyday repeating the same lines yet no one is ready to shift ground, why then do you guy continue? Where una dey get the energy from?

At least during OleOut vs OleIns, we had a good number of folks switching places as the arguments and results came forth but not in this case...Make una rest jare!

TrebleChamp:
We have over pampered, unserious players, our problem has never really being players but bad management at board and coach level. Mourinho won trophies with arguably inferiors players, reason why i always blame the manager more and pick some players for special criticism. Pogba is very talented but so unserious and lazy, yet the board is considering giving him a new improved contract. Rafiu came in and made a 1hour phone call to Ole, wetin him discuss for a whole one hour with Ole?

That 1 hour call sef, wetin them dey talk?

A serious club would not have allowed Ralph to even flash Ole...

TrebleChamp:
Why did Chelsea sack Lampard? Which team did Tuchel win Champions League with? This question will give you the answer to the bolded...

In other words, the team is not as poor as being peddled around here, right?

ChristoBam:
Literally no single person mentioned Ronaldo before you clown. No one's concerned with Ronaldo Messi at this point in our season except you're a kid.

The thing is just tiring, they'll be here 24/7 talking about how Messi is less of a player compared to their favorite but once you engage them they'll comeback with cheap emotional blackmail...

Omo makes una just forget, if we can't beat Everton, it's means out problem transcends the quality of players we have.

They should start playing the youngsters let's see what we can get from the academy...

Abeg what's up with Greenwood?

Make una carry Messi for head while the club sinks...

Ibime:
You've got to the crux of the matter.

At the point Llorente switched his run to the backpost, we've entered another phase where Henderson is the direct and closest challanger to Morata and VVD is the back up. Henderson is the one with the responsibility at that stage while VVD is the clean up insurance policy, but Henderson was lax and tired so by the time VVD noticed Henderson isn't going for it, it's too late. It's all there on video. Henderson is the only man in this sequence who never locks in a man at any stage and that's where the overload occurs.

https://j.gifs.com/3QpMyO.gif


Now explain to Dayo in simple English why VVD was right to follow the runner in the first instance.

I'd blame Henderson for not following up with his run to close that space in between himself and VVD and also blame Gomez for not staying a bit close to Llorente. You can see Gomez running towards VVD before retreating when the pass was made. Whatever made him move towards VVD, I can't tell.

TrebleChamp:
All Messianic fans will see the light soon, and duly duly acknowledge Ronaldo as the overall best player of his generation. Ronaldo is the GOHT, but will become the GOAT if he dominate and win 2022 World Cup.

Okay.

Rudiger was very poor yesterday...His lack of positional awareness left Chelsea exposed at the back...

mactoni91:
For those who do not understand what Mach 5 speed means...

That's a whooping cruise speed of 6174km/h.

Imagine mounting a NUKE on it or better still equipping their Airdefence systems with it.

As Russia think say dem mad,the US would tame them

You need to get yourself updated, Russia and China are the leading lights in hypersonic missile technology...

Ennyjay69:
which midfield 2 abeg

Pogba and Bruno...

Ibukzy:
Lol

Do you understand the post you quoted or you just want to be heard?

jpmoriarti:
100% disagree.

Why do you think we became a laugh amongst European football in the last 6 years, even with Messi still playing AM and striker and scoring bagful of goals?

I have seen Messi, totally aloof and unbothered, walking in the pitch while the team was under immense pressure. It is attitude problem with him and others. Everything is not about scoring mountains of goals. You score 4 - 0 in the first leg and lose 5 - 0 in the second. What is the point in that?

Yes we have moved on from that sordid era, but I can't forgive it. Busquets, Alba and Pique has stayed back to redeem their battered image. Unfortunately for Messi, Suarez and co, they no longer have such opportunity.

The defense became shit and the midfield was nothing to write home about as Busi and Rakitic began to age...Imagine replacing Alves with Semedo, Mascherano/Puyol with Lenglet after Umtiti suffered that injury that rendered him useless, Rakitic with Arthur, Iniesta with Coutinho that didn't just workout...

If you follow your club, you'd pin the collapse over over the past few seasons on the incompetence of Bartomeu as he is at the center of every wrong decision made in recruiting players and mangers alike...