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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:42pm On Sep 19, 2021
TheLequte:
Poppycock.

I’m not convinced because of the recurrent mistakes Ole makes, not because he hasn’t won a trophy. Everyone has a first time.

You knew Klopp would be a contender and eventually win it that season he went head to head with Pep.

Learn to read other people’s opinion and think.
He reads every post with the mindset that the poster is attacking Ole...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:41pm On Sep 19, 2021
melodyogonna:
I don't know if I should call this hypocritical or ironical coming from you.
You read but you don't understand...With Chelsea, you see a team that has a style of play and are complete in every area of the pitch and most importantly have a very good coach.

If we get a red card at Anfield, I am sure you guys will jump on that excuse for whatever the outcome of the game is but we saw Chelsea with a man down still threatening Liverpool something that Ole's Manchester United can never do...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:37pm On Sep 19, 2021
TheLequte:
I disagree about Chelsea. The end of the season saved them last season. They were already losing winnable games.

Cup games are not the same as league games so the UCL victory doesn’t paper over the cracks.

Have you noticed how vulnerable they become immediately they go one goal up? Sure, coach may be good but that team mentality and cohesiveness is not there.

Utd, City and Liverpool are ahead of them in this regard.
Chelsea achieved their goal and the end of it. I can even argue that they were distracted...

It gets more interesting for them that they have added Lukaku who guarantees over 20 league goals, that's a huge plus for them. Their squad depth is another big plus for them. At a time when fatigue will set in, I expect them to ride through that phase...You should imagine this Chelsea team when they hit top gear because I think you are mistaking their present form for their best form.

I will not categorically say Liverpool and City are ahead of them talk less of Manchester United...Chelsea showed at Anfield that when they up their game, they can go toe to toe with the very best. Next weekend, I am tipping them to beat City again...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:38am On Sep 19, 2021
TheLequte:
It’s difficult to say at the moment.

Last season we started badly and were topping by December. Then we lost steam and surrendered to City.

We started well this season and Ole has a better squad. With these improvements, the answer to that question should be pretty clear but Ole’s bizarre decisions (or lack of) will make you hesitate.

So, even with those improvements I can’t say, at this point, if we’ll be contenders- mainly because of Ole.

The reason I might think Liverpool and City are contenders at this point is because they’ve done it before. They’ve gone on incredible winning runs. Klopp’s squad is rustier than Pep. That’s why it seems I’m tipping City over Liverpool.

If we had a better coach then we’d be deemed contenders at this point too.

This doesn’t mean we aren’t contenders at all, it only means that things are not clear yet for us. We can still grow into the season, emerge contenders and eventually win it.
Chelsea are not playing their best football yet are winning games. That for me is a sign that they're going to fight for the title all the way...

City not signing a striker Wil be their greatest undoing. Liverpool are strong contenders as long as VVD and their other CBs remain fit. Good thing for Liverpool is that Klopp seems to have learnt, early days but he is already rotating his team and fairly well...

I agree with everything you have said about our chances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:25am On Sep 19, 2021
TheLequte:
You’ll change your mind soon enough.
Are we title contenders?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:41pm On Sep 18, 2021
TheLequte:
Chelsea is not a contender.

We’ll revisit this in December.
In relation to us, they are...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:54pm On Sep 18, 2021
TheLequte:
Liverpool will also drop points. However, I’m still tipping City over Liverpool as the main threat.

City may have dropped points today but remember that they can go on a 17-match WINNING run.

Our fate is in our own hands. We’ve started the season well, can we keep going till the end?
City and Liverpool are threats to themselves, not us...I'd consider Chelsea more of a title contender as long as Ole is here...

City not signing a striker will be their undoing come May, 2022...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:51pm On Sep 18, 2021
TheLequte:
There will be games where we’ll drop points but that doesn’t mean we should put up a tepid display.

If Southampton had played with more spirit like they did today maybe we wouldn’t have equalized.

How we lose games/dropped points is quite important. The lackadaisical attitude we display when we drop points has been a recurring occurrence. Only the coach is to blame for that.

Our opponent can be tough or soft but the important thing is we must always be tough, especially against those tough opponents. We have to create chances, force fouls in dangerous areas, etc. That’s how to score against tough opponents. Sadly, we’re often toothless against those type of tough opponents.

West Ham beckons.
Gbam! There's a level of performance you expect from the team for the most part...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:54pm On Sep 18, 2021
ChristoBam:
Some United fans do this everytime. Compare ourselves to whichever team is doing terrible in any shit week we find ourselves.
It's sickening to find folks justifying the shortcomings of the team every other weekend...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:49pm On Sep 18, 2021
Mrviktor:
Even mancity couldn't crack Southampton..
What exactly is your point?

Are you saying we did well to get a point against them? If yes, how then do we intend to finish above them if we keep on with this mediocre mentality?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:28pm On Sep 18, 2021
ouzo1:
E be like na only Ole red card dey confuse. Dis Brentford coach get sense .
Wolves are a small team and cannot be compared to the almighty champions of Switzerland...

This is what Ole fans will say...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by patrickmuf(m): 2:25pm On Sep 18, 2021
This is an attacking set up...I dey watch that midfield, e suppose dominate against Burnley...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:54am On Sep 18, 2021
ChristoBam:
No one's saying Ancelloti is not a great coach o. Talking about absence of a certain philosophy and tactics. If we get Ancelloti today, you won't know what you're getting in terms of style of play.
Ancelotti might not have a distinctive pattern but he is sure to find a way to use the players at his disposal to deliver...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:06am On Sep 18, 2021
TrebleChamp:
I love this reply. No time for unnecessary shalaye, when the obvious is very obvious...
Something wey dey clear na it person want still argue...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
ChristoBam:
To me Ole is just a younger, more naive version of Ancelloti. I no dey really see their tactics or philosophy. They just go with the flow. Aim is just to win matches, that's all. Doesn't matter how you play. It all depends on how the opponents approach the game.
Carlo Ancelloti is a very good coach...The same Bayern that Madrid thrashed with Pep as their coach is the one Carlo almost used to eliminate Madrid...

If Carlo had joined Bayern immediately after Jupp left, I am certain he'd have won the UCL with that Bayern team. Ole teams for one doesn't have a defined pattern of play nor do we see his tactical inputs in the course of a match...

Ole is just Ole, a clueless coach...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:48am On Sep 18, 2021
afrodoc2:
LMAO!

The guy was asking JAMB question. You gave him JAMB answer. cheesy
Simple...
Skimpledawg:
Abi my brother. Na to dey nack the side of your TV to dey get better signals make you dey see wetin dem dey see

grin
Hehehe abi o!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:49am On Sep 18, 2021
Skimpledawg:
grin grin grin
You be case Pato

You can't come and kill yourself with disagreement cheesy
Bro wetin I go talk na?

E be like say some people here dey watch different match from me so instead of arguing make I accept say na my TV no good...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 1:58am On Sep 18, 2021
timbros:
Said what exactly?

You don't get the discussion. Airmark said that TAA do not attack whenever VVD is not on the pitch. The issue is not if attacking will be detrimental or not.

Did TAA attack AC Milan? Was VVD in the pitch?
The commentator said they did not attack with quite the same conviction when VVD was out injured. You just can not use use one odd match to invalidate that claim, that's my point...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 10:52pm On Sep 17, 2021
timbros:
We are not talking if his attacking has consequences or not.

You specifically said TAA don't attack when VVD is not around. Do you still stand by that?
An EPL commentator said same and not just for TAA but involving Robertson too...You definitely do not know more than he does...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:34pm On Sep 17, 2021
melodyogonna:
nawa grin grin talk your mind na
It's what you see...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31pm On Sep 17, 2021
slimghost:
Ah Bro! Traore that misses 1V1 on a daily?.
It takes good movement to even get to have a 1 v 1 chance...The both of them will be better with good coaching...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:29pm On Sep 17, 2021
melodyogonna:
Which is what exactly?
Never mind, we play very good football and are just unlucky...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:01pm On Sep 17, 2021
slimghost:
He is better than Traore please. He is a better finisher
I am not sure...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:12pm On Sep 17, 2021
slimghost:
Well, if he improves his decision making, he’d be unplayable.
No difference between him and Traore...No end product.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:29pm On Sep 17, 2021
melodyogonna:
The way Ole outer are being mudded all over Twitter and Reddit dey make me happy grin grin
Are your happy with what you're being served?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 6:48pm On Sep 17, 2021
CAPdan21:
Saying his game is more suited to attacking is different from calling him a poor defender and comparing him to Eboue implies that he is a defensive liability which is definitely false...for instance TAA is a better defender than walker is a wingback, so if walker is not a poor wingback how can TAA be a poor defender??
It's all about perspective here, I rate Maguire as a poor defender even though he does some things right same with AWB...

TAA is defensively poor based on the eye test when Liverpool come up against their equals. Robertson does attack as much as him but you hardly find him wanting defensively...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 6:23pm On Sep 17, 2021
izzou:
[color=royalblue]These stats do not show he's very very poor defensively (like you said)

My point is that you guys are just exaggerating, and also intending to turn your exaggerations to a fact.

The guy may not be excellent defensively, buy he's not very poor defensively.

He may be the weakest link in the Liverpool's defence (In Patrickmuf's voice), but that doesn't mean he's very poor defensively.

Even without his offense stats, his defens stats are very okay for an RB.

Do you understand my point now?[/color]
Saying that Klopp needs to deliberately set up to cover for him was spot on by Roland17. Liverpool have the best wing backs in the league so, a switch to 3 5 2 will really favor them more so than Chelsea as it will mask the defensive lapses of TAA whilst promoting his attacking play...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:47pm On Sep 17, 2021
Nezzjnr:
Mino Raiola to Rai Sport: “Paul Pogba is out of contract in June, so we’ll talk with Man Utd and we’ll see what happens. Juventus? Paul still loves Turin. There’s a chance that Pogba will return to Juventus, yes - but it also depends on Juventus plans”. � #MUFC #Juve




cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Abeg if him no want sign new deal make VDB play ahead of am...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 5:35pm On Sep 17, 2021
iamoyindamola:
Haba
Everyone knows TAA is the weak link in LFC defence
Be like you no they watch him against fast pace wingers how they roast him.
I no know why he want argue...TAA is defensively poor...

Hendo and the CBs na them dey cover for am.
PoliticsRe: Femi Fani-Kayode: God Told Me To Join APC by patrickmuf(m): 7:55pm On Sep 16, 2021
assent:
Mannabbgrills, madridguy, sirjamo, seunmsg, thatfairguy1, monogamy, johnmartus, Tinubuadvocate, letthrmsay, ngenekwenu (or whatever rubbish your monicker is), it is time to start praising FFK too. grin grin

Imagine praising the same man you have earlier called "corrupt"! cheesy cheesy

Please, how do you plan to do that without feeling stupid, used and useless? rotfl. grin grin

At this stage, I agree that it is not easy to be a dispensable, inconsequential pawn! grin grin grin

You will also start praising Jonathan too very soon.

I don't envy your lot at all. tongue tongue tongue
It goes both ways, will you guys start calling FFK names?

Y'all need to realize that these guys (Politicians) don't care about you all...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:49am On Sep 16, 2021
afrodoc2:
Frederalists are in sifia pains. They will drag anybody and anything now. If you like go and famz a crocodile, dey go drag am for you........teeth or no teeth. cheesy
Hehehe
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:46am On Sep 16, 2021
eph12:
So back to this, you should have mentioned how he was making life difficult for Greenwood, Varane and Lindelof, instead of mentioning Sancho. I wouldn't have had any issues. We good now
That was a response to Doc and he knows why I brought it up.

AWB is the least intelligent defender we have, he is positionally poor and in attack, he is nothing to write home about.

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