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It will be interesting to see how Ole lines up tonight...

Hopefully VDB, Sancho, Martial AND Dalot make the starting 11...

Havertz10:
Human nature we all saw havertz against madrid, city, england and portugal


Yet you talk about him, like if he has never ever performed enough to justify his reputed tags

Tuchel has been playing him on the left, watch highlights of those games and tell me where havertz played


When has mount performed and was the stand out performer, when did you watch mount play and say to yourself this guy is going to be a star, go and re watch that Madrid game and see what havertz did to that defense

Pulisic and Hudson Odoi are suddenly the ones kante that can't play a through pass to save his life is suddenly the one

What happens when either of kovacic, jorginho or kante gets injured while playing all 3 in the same game, we also have Juventus 4 days later

Big picture thinking is very absent here, it's to be reactionary and gather insignificant likes for walking on the fence that you guys are skilled at

How is his performance for Germany against Portugal and England of relevance to Chelsea? Is he paid weekly to perform for Germany or Chelsea?

If you want to defend him, use his performance for Chelsea and Chelsea alone...

jpmoriarti:
Roberto Martinez hmmm.

But will he leave Belgium post to come coach this team? He's a Catalan though so he's probably a Barcelona fan. We'll see. I liked his work at the premier league especially with Birmingham

Martinez is not a top coach.

GloryIsaac:
Abeg I no follow too o.. Na just observation I make

Martial FC forever.

elrony:


Una don make Oga Pato enter dry fasting with mustard seed, he go use alert kill una this season

Patrickmuf abeg me I no follow o

Hehehe...

Messi will surely score plenty goals but I no go drop any alert here because na normal thing but I know say expert no get forgiving spirit...

GloryIsaac:
To argue some things no make, especially when we know say na our favorite dey f*ck up.

See how Doc drag people through the streets because of this. Mud everywhere.

If your favorite dey f*ck up, swallow your L in peace. It might only be temporary.

No L is permanent.

You still living in yesterday's world? Move on as I have done...Me and Doc wey follow argue the matter have left it for more important things...

benji93:
@patrickmuf, you know say na me and you dey Messi camp, but abeg just go cool off for a few days. . He get one ritual wey Yoruba people dey do. Dem go boil dogoyaro put for bucket, come tell you make you sit down bend, come cover you join the bucket. You need that right now. The internet remembers. Keep that in mind. It is well.

Lol Na Manchester United thread so na normal thing...

elrony:
Now I'm thinking Amaka chop Oga Patrick money run

Lol Ole is a fraud, that one is a given...

Capaldi:
You should realize Messi going to Ligue 1 is a lose - lose situation for him and his fans like you unless Psg wins the champions league. Messi fails: Can’t perform in a farmers league
Messi succeeds: it doesn’t count, it’s a farmers league.

Messi has only one way to succeed and that’s to win the UCL which won’t happen.

Won't happen because you can see tomorrow? I know Messi needs to win the UCL to stand a chance of winning the best player in the world award...

afrodoc2:
In the words of a wise man

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That was until Lille happened...Messi is on a mission to return PSG back to the top...

Last season, the Ligue 1 table was so close even more than that of the EPL...

afrodoc2:
I hate lies in my life.

Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders is a lie that must be banished into the depths of Mordor.

It's the reason why I have been going back and forth with you that those guys are not farmers...

afrodoc2:
[b][/b]


Oh ho! So Ligue 1 is small pond?

And you did not tell us since?

Lille has answered the question I posed...

afrodoc2:
[b][/b]


Angel Michael, please allow this sinner enter heaven..........abeg!

Hehehe why then are you judging Messi off his Ligue 1 output?

I will judge Messi off his UCL performance but then, PSG are not the defending Ligue 1 champions so Messi have got a big task to help them wrestle the title from Lille...

DeadPresidents:
BSC Young Boys beat United.

Moumi Ngameleu must be better than Ronaldo

That's a one off but when teams from the Swiss league eliminate Manchester United, Madrid and Bayern over a certain period you have to stand up and take note of that league besides, the French league is renowned for being a production house of top talents so, you can't come out and dismiss players in such league...

afrodoc2:
Name 5 INTERNATIONAL GRADE DEFENDRS THAT MESSI WILL FACE THIS SEASON

Denayer and company...

afrodoc2:
Ajax dumped Real Madrid and Juventus out of UCL. Means Eredivise defenders are better than Serie A and La Liga defenders.

Messianic logic.

It means they're not farmers are can play at the level of Madrid and Juventus players...

afrodoc2:
NAME 5 QUALITY INTERNATIONAL GRADE DEFENDERS THAT MESSI WILL FACE THIS SEASON.

Denayer and his mates are farmers but Ronaldo and Juventus couldn't knock them out...

Cherry picking their best players is down to the fact that the EPL has more money.

Next summer, all the top teams will return to France looking for another set of farmers...Farmers w ey sabi ball...

Take the money and media coverage away and watch the EPL struggle...

afrodoc2:
Quote where i said they were all famers? Is Mbappe a farmer?

You were the one who said Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders and yet have been unable to list only 5 of these defenders.
i have receipt for where you said it.

NAME 5 QUALITY INTERNATIONAL GRADE LIGUE 1 CENTRAL DEFENDERS THAT MESSI WILL FACE THIS SEASON.

I am asking for the 135.4618th time.

What happened when Man City met Lyon?

What happened why Juventus met Lyon?

What happened when City met Monaco?

Those farmers that ensured City and Juventus were dumped out of the UCL are what you are asking for...You can look them up.

Messi is a failure at International football but when he won the COPA we started hearing stories...

The good thing is that his haters are out with the excuses are early this time...So, if Messi wins the Ligue 1 that PSG couldn't win and even lost their version of the Super Cup to the same Lille (showing that it wasn't a fluke), he didn't do anything spectacular, he should win the UCL which if he does they'd find another excuse...

Hehehe I sabi una well well...

afrodoc2:
All these good defenders have left their leagues and joined EPL teams which means EPL cherry picks the best defenders in these leagues and leaves the otu defenders to be forming chairman in those leagues.

Now can you name the 5 quality international grade defenders that Messi will face?

I thought they were all farmers?

slimghost:
See how they are attacking my man Patrick because of this Argentine Ikedia. No goal, no assist!

Attacking? Lol...

He is trying to push a narrative that isn't factual...Kante, Mahrez and Hazard has dominated the EPL all from Ligue 1...A lot of farmers can play football in France...

handelex:
This your comment is very funny to me seeing how you're trying to excuse Southgate and hold the players accountable

This life shaa

Good luck with English players...

afrodoc2:
E shock you?

This is the first time i am hearing that Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders.

Who are the top EPL defenders?

Diaz from Benfica...

Varane a product of Ligue 1...

Azpi signed from Marseille...

Van Dijk signed from the Scottish league...

Varane was signed by Madrid from Lens who had just been relegated back then...

Azpi was signed by Chelsea from Marseille...

I assume the Scottish and Portuguese leagues qualify as farmers league too yet the best EPL defenders were signed from there...

If not for his injury Fofana was already touted as one of the best EPL defenders, guess where he was signed from?

Gabriel of Arsenal nko?

That defenders in the French Ligue 1 are not popular is down to the league and not because they are farmers...If Ligue 1 had the money and media packaging of the EPL, they'd be miles ahead...

afrodoc2:
You still haven't told me the 5-11 quality international grade central defenders in the Ligue 1 that Messi has to face.

Illimitab.le has shut down your argument listing players who came from leagues that ordinarily you'd class as farmers league but still bossed the EPL...

As I said, there's more to football...

Doc leave history, the EPL is not far ahead of the French Ligue 1 and the players there are not farmers...

We might never agree on this one so, let's just leave it here...

handelex:
That's true but that squad had tremendous quality all round except you want to deny that.

They had a team good enough to match Italy on paper but on the pitch, they we saw the difference. It's mostly been so for the Three Lions heading into an international competition and most times, the coach takes the fall but away from that, isn't it time we started questioning the players?

I really thought that for once England have a team filled with players who are comfortable on the ball but once they came up against top opponents, they relied more on their athleticism rather than their technical ability which seems to be there in this present crop...

handelex:
It's more about Southgates tactiks and setup than the players actually. Swap the managers and the story changes.

English players are overhyped, it's no news...

Kagame is low key a dictator, one that has zero tolerance for dissenting voices...

Illimitable:
Ligue 1 isn’t far behind from PL. The only thing PL has over Ligue 1 apart from money is hype. We should stop pretending that we haven’t seen direct transfers from Ligue 1 coming to boss the overhyped PL.

Eden Hazard, Riyadh Mahrez, Ngolo Kante, etc all came from the so called Farmer’s league to win PFA player of the year in the overhyped PL back to back without sweats.

Salah also came straight from Serie A(another so called farmer’s league) to dog-walk the overhyped PL defenders. There’s also Ruben Dias that came straight from Portuguese league and he won player of the season. Bruno Fernandes from the same farmer’s league is also bossing PL defenders - and he should have won the last PFA awards.

PL is 70% footballing ability, 30% media hype. Just try and watch the Euro final again and see how Italian players from the so called farmer’s league totally destroyed the overhyped PL players.

When you read about the EPL, you'd think they're about the best in the world but all of it is down to very good marketing...

I have said it here before that I watch City in the UCL and they hardly dominate European teams like they do EPL teams but people won't stop over hyping the league...

afrodoc2:
Zlatan dropped from 38 goals in Ligue 1 to 17 goals in EPL next season. Discuss

Using not more than 250 words explain how Lacazette dropped from 28 goals in Ligue 1 to 14 goals the next season in EPL.

Using diagrams and audiovisual illustration, explain how Mbappe is averaging practically a goal a game in Ligue 1 despite playing only just above half of the matches as CF?

Without asking Ifa, Orunmila, or Delphic oracle can you explain how Falcao averaged 0.6 goals per game in Ligue 1 but 0.14 goals per game in EPL?

a) With the help of google can you tell us how many Ligue 1 teams have ever won the Champions League?
b) Calculate the ratio of this to the number of EPL teams that have won the
Champions League.
c) Finally using all mighty formula can you tell us the degree of blame to be apportioned to Ligue 1 defenders for the result of b above.

Hehehe Zlatan played for PSG, the best team in the league and when he came to England, he joined the 5th best team and was older...

Mbappe scored 27 goals last season, that's good but hardly jaw dropping...Salah doesn't play as a CF but he also post better numbers...

The Falcao that arrived in England was already watched up...

Lacazette? How many stellar seasons did he have in Ligue 1? What team did he join in England? It's like leaving Liverpool for Real Betis/Valencia and expecting to drop the same stats. Lyon was the 2nd/3rd best team in France at that time, he joined Arsenal that were on their way down...

If Zlatan, Cavani, Mbappe played for the present City or Liverpool whilst at the peak of their powers, they'd have dropped top numbers...

That's me trying to point out things clearly but we all know football can't be judged that way, Immobile was thrash at Dortmund but he has since been back banging goals for Lazio...Ordinarily, one would look at the Bundesliga and think it is easier to score there than in the Serie A but it didn't happen...

Another instance, Ronaldo left Madrid for Juventus but was beaten to the golden boot by an old man Quagliarella in his first season and Immobile in his second season, it's only last season he was able to win the golden boot...Same Ronaldo that scored for fun in LA Liga and the UCL, are we to believe the Serie A is tougher or have better defenders? If yes, why then is Immobile doing so well there after failing in Germany?

There’s more to football...

I had a laugh when I read your reply...You this man, you funny sha.

afrodoc2:
Let’s list players that Brazilian league has produced and conclude that it is better than EPL then?

We don’t want you to name all the players that Ligue 1 has produced sef. That’s too difficult.
Just name the 5 good international grade defenders that Messi will face there. Since 11 is too hard we have reduced it to 5.

Okay, I accept they're no international grade defenders in the whole league but then, why didn't/haven't Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Falcao, Mbappe, Neymar etc scored more than 40-50 league goals not even consistently but at least for once?. Who was stopping them, farmers? Must be farmers who can play the beautiful game then...