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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:08pm On Sep 15, 2020
dubylhover:
The loss of 3 semi finals doesn't tell you anything?
We played an under strength team s Chelsea and even at that, De Gea messed up.

In the UEFA Europa League, we outplayed Sevilla and only lost e cause we couldn't finish our chances. The X factor is Bruno and Pogba staying fit (We even have VDB now) as well as Rashford rediscovering his form soon...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:46pm On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
Maguire, Lukaku and Pogba have done well, even di Maria struggled bcuz he doesn’t want to be here in the first place.. our team on the other hand is sh!te.


Pogba for instance has been our best player until the arrival of Bruno.

Maguire whom I don’t even rate has done quite well. Heard we have are one of the best defensive stat in Europe last season, that’s huge.
De Gea - 18m (2011)

Wan-Bissaka - 50m
Lindelof - 31m
Maguire - 80m
Shaw - 30m

Fred - 50m
Matic - 35m
Pogba - 89m
Bruno - £47m (Add ons should see it reach 67m)
VDB - 38M

Martial - 57m
James - 15m

You still have Bailly, Dalot, Mata etc...If our squad is shit then it's an expensive shit...

Let's compare to Liverpool

...........................Allison.................................
TAA........ Maguire....... Van Dijk...... Rovertson
..............................Fabinho....................
.......................................Pogba..............
..............................Bruno......................
........ Salah........... Martial.............. Mane...

That's 5 of our players in the team...

Compared to City...

...........................Ederson (Debatable) ......................
Walker.......... Maguire..... Laporte........ Shaw
... Rodri/Gundogan (Matic can easily slot in........
................ KDB..................... Pogba..................
............................ Bruno.............................
......................... Aguero...... Martial................

That's 5 of our players in the team...

Compared to Chelsea...
...................................De Gea......................
Azpi................Lindelof....... Maguire......Shaw........
.......................................Kante................................
............................Bruno..............Pogba..................
.................Pulisic.........Werner.............Martial..........

That's 7 of our players against 5 for Chelsea...

Compared to Arsenal, only Auba, Tierney and maybe Gabriel (Questionable) will make our team...

Compared to Leicester...
Only Vardy, Ndidi, Pereira and maybe Soyuncu will make our team...

Compared to Spurs, only Kane, Son and Alderweireld will make our team...

Argue with the combined teams above and tell me if our squad is really shit or it's our coach that has not been eble to maximize the potentials of the Players we have?

If you even try to place players on the bench, most of our players will earn a place on the bench ahead of other starters for teams like Leicester, Arsnela and Spurs...Only City and Liverpool best us...We even have a better bench than Pool...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:52pm On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
Not all players are purchased for modest fees, wether they go on to be a success or not. Ronaldo was bought for 12mill, Rooney for 30mill.

Jones 20mil.. Ferdinand 30mil.

Berbatov 30mill.. Manucho and diof?

Pogba 90mill... Herrera+Schweini+Fellaini+schneiderlin 90mill.


You’ve got to splash the cash for quality sometimes.
At the bolded, you can't fault the club on that we have signed Maguire, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria all for high fees and of the lot, none has particularly lived up to the expected high standards that's synonymous with the transfer fee they commanded isn't it time the club applies caution?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:22pm On Sep 15, 2020
Expert17:
That's true bro, perfection like Coutinho, Griezman and Dembele.

Thanks.
Hahaha Person house dey burn e run say na e neighbors own e wan first quench...

Las las we all go dey alright...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:21pm On Sep 15, 2020
elrony:
Ayinde slander won't be tolerated grin
Hehehe Baba you know the drill on this street...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:17pm On Sep 15, 2020
dubylhover:
Of all the players you listed above,its only pogbs I can say is naturally more gifted than sancho, besides we all knew that pogba just needed a functioning system,our overall game improved with the introduction of Bruno,so why are peeps pessimistic that Sancho wouldn't improve us also?
No vex but Sancho is not more talented than Martial naturally or artificially...Thank you sah!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:10pm On Sep 15, 2020
elrony:
Preferred because they were better players.

I don't know why you guys are fighting tho , will reducing the price make Sancho not to flop ? cheesy grin
You can count your losses and move on if he comes cheap and flops. You think Man City would've allowed Pep dispose Bravo just like that if he cost 60m?

See Barcelona with Dembele, Griezmann and Coutinho because of their price tag, you can't sell them so they have to play them until they deliver or catch the attention of another club so they can recoup their outlay.

Same thing with Real and James Rodriguez, they didn't want to sell him on the cheap and no team was willing to pay much so they explored the option of a loan to recoup some money from him before finally seeing him off on the cheap. If you look at the deal, they recouped close to the amount they used to sign him...

Nobody is against the signing of Sancho but for future business, 2e shouldn't pay that much if not, every club will hike the prices of the players when United comes calling...

We messed up with Maguire and after that we have somewhat retraced our steps with the signing of Bruno and VDB for modest fees...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:01pm On Sep 15, 2020
lekkie073:
so the guy na Barca fan? Not worth arguing with then
Hehehe
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2020
odizeey:
Like we grumbled wen Bruno was linked to us.

We still grumbled over van de Beek.

We are grumbling over regullion too na.
Leave that guy, his own is to stand outside the ring to throw jibes that doesn't stick...People celebrated the signing of Bruno, VDB and are even clamoring for good but not expensive players like Reguilon and Upamecano but baba rather talk about below average players or overpriced players...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:53am On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
Look at wazza’s stats before we splashed 30mil.
In the EPL playing for Everton which was a mid table team...A teenager still against Sancho, 20 years old playing for the 2nd best team in a league which isn't as competitive as the EPL...


Again, apples and oranges...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:50am On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
all dis one na shalaye. How many goals and assist for wazza that made us splash 30million for him?

Look at Sancho’s
Whilst at it, drop the stats of Mkhitaryan and Kagawa before we signed them...

Sancho was playing with Hackimi whose runs dragged defenders away affording him space...At United, he will hold the ball waiting for Wan-Bissaka but baba will not move an inch, he'll rather stay back...Dortmund play expansive free flowing attacking football, they will score five and concede 3 or 4 but it does not concern them...At United, conceding 3 goals is already a disaster even if we score 6...Sancho won't be all out explosive here like he is in Dortmund...

Watch Dortmund in the UCL and against teams who care about defending and you'll see that it is easier for them in the BULI.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
spillo1:
LMFAO......As godx call them "Enemy of Progress"
Try hard as you can, you and your goons can't spin this one...Imagine a small minority calling the majority enemy of progress...You should laugh at yourself more...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:42am On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
destroyed arsenal how? because of 1 goal in 1 game. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


How many goals and assist did Rooney have before we splashed 30mill on him?
The best Rooney was the young Rooney, everyone that have the eyes to spot a talent then didn't question SAF for his decision...It was obvious Rooney was it from the very moment he broke into the Everton first team, I am not telling you tales, I was already well vested in football then so I followed everything...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:37am On Sep 15, 2020
96forever:
Adama is not a even a guaranteed starter for tin pot club like wolves, yet you think he should be a starter for the biggest club in the UK.. lololololololololololol
Adama is not a starter for Wolves? Abeg when did you start watching football? You should be flogged for this blatant lie...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:33am On Sep 15, 2020
weedtaker:
Manchester United is not Aston villa. We bought Bruno for 45mil bcuz we were lucky. Rooney was bought for 30million back in 2004 as a teenager. That’s like 16yrs ago. They were many teenagers back then that we can get for 5million or 2million but SAF was adamant it must be Rooney.

Had it been people like you wey the cry for players transfer fee, like say na una papa own the around that time... we for sign Rafael Sobis for 2million and lose out on our record goal scorer.
Guy, Rooney of that age destroyed one of the greatest Arsenal teams and was one of the stars of Euro 2004...Rooney dominated teams all on his own...

Abeg stop comparing apples and oranges...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:30am On Sep 15, 2020
Godx:
Damn the Enemy of Man United progress plenty for this thread
A Barca fan whose club is in disarray rather spends his time talking about how to fix United...

You're a clown...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:27am On Sep 15, 2020
Godx:
Once again nothing related to my post. You guys just type anything for fun around here.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:17am On Sep 15, 2020
eph12:
Stop saying this nonsense. They can reject it, does not mean anybody in their right senses will buy him. There are 40m options which a sensible Pep went for
Imagine the nonsense he wrote...100m for Gimenez that has since been exposed after Godin left? That guy is funny...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:15am On Sep 15, 2020
Abeg shey na CB Adama Traore dey play?

Una go dey do like say na only Sancho dey...

Bayern that won the UCL had Gnabry and Coman starting for them, how on earth are those guys world beaters?

Or is it Goretzka in midfield that is too good?

If someone suggested Gnabry here, una for shout say e no good but see him starting for Bayern.

Look at Leicester City, how many world beaters do they have in their team? Maybe 2 or thereabout but here, we must sign world class players for every position if we must challenge...Elampiro suggested Mane couple of years back but nobody saw reasons with him because Mane played for Sutton...

Salah and Allison were signed from Roma...

Mane and Van Dijk from Sutton...

Robertson was signed on the cheap...

Wjinaldum was signed from relegated Newcastle...

Henderson from Sunderland as a RW then he was later converted to midfielder by a coach that knows what he is doing...

Firmino was signed from Hoeffenheim as an AMF for a modest fee...

Fabinho from Monaco for similar fees we paid for VDB...

Only Van Dijk, Allison and Keita were above 50m but here, you have Maguire, Pogba, Bruno, Martial Wan-Bissaka and Martial and we're clamoring for Sancho...I don't even want to talk about wages...Abeg let's stop over paying for players just because we want to sign them...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:59am On Sep 15, 2020
Year 2020...

The year Corona Virus did humanity dirty...

The year Kobe Bryant died...

The year Chadwick Boseman died...

The year Sancho was the only right winger in the world...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 12:10am On Sep 15, 2020
CapitalCee:
Worse than HAVERTZ? you must be joking. You know the truth say it.
They won't admit it now, not when they know you're lurking...Give it time, maybe tomorrow or next and you'll see them asking questions of the mega acquisition...Havertz is too slow to play as a winger in the EPL, at best he is a 10 but even at that, he needs to quicken things up. The EPL is not the Bundesliga, he needs to understand that he won't have all the time in the world to do his thing...

Ziyech to me is the best signing Chelsea have made.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 12:04am On Sep 15, 2020
pamcode:
Werner should come out well for us. Pace and skill is there. Kai did a job defensively which is ironical considering it was purported to be his weak point. RLC and Kepa to the bin as fast as possible, Kepa especially nothing can be done about him. RLC, I hope for his sake he gets his fitness and confidence back.
Pace? yes...
Skill? I didn't see it o! Abi running is now a skill?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:01am On Sep 15, 2020
olabode89:
120M euros on an attacking player with 2.5 seasons football experience in a league where most teams don't defend with a low block defense system is a huge risk.

I like Sancho, but I don't think spending 120M on him is wise. We can buy all those guys I mentioned earlier and add Said Benhrama for 30M pounds.
I can bet 100k against 50k, Sancho won't pose similar stats in England...I won't be surprised if Greenwood outshines Sancho in Manchester United...

£108M is a lot of money...See Havertz today, dude thought he is still in the Bundesliga and was caught in possession many times. Nobody will give Sancho space to operate and for that price tag, he better assist or score every other game if not the English press will descend on him...

Pogba suffered same fate, Maguire is suffering the same...Manchester United is not Dortmund, here the spotlight is constantly on you...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:54pm On Sep 14, 2020
weedtaker:
I don’t buy your plan.. Greenwood should be developed as a CF, his place for now should be as a first substitute for our attackers not bloody James and lingard.

The board should release the funds for Sancho and another attacker maybe josh king, they should also get a LB.
In your first paragraph you said Greenwood should be developed as a CF coming in for Martial in games.

In your 2nd paragraph you are asking that we sign Sancho (no argument here) and Josh King who is a CF even when we still have Ighalo here until January? So, Josh King should be our 3rd or 4th CF option? I hope you do realize Ighalo is been paid weekly abi you want us to be paying him for living in Manchester?

Greenwood doesn't look like an out and out CF, he looks more of a SS for now...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:59pm On Sep 14, 2020
Azpi tucks in...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:58pm On Sep 14, 2020
olabode89:
The same James that March was romancing like a sweetbutt??
You dey mind that one...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
Why did Chelsea sell that Lamptey guy? He looks very good...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:51pm On Sep 14, 2020
Expert17:
That guy na potential flop.

Our squad strong pass this Chelsea self.
Na that Ziyech I dey fear, that guys left is bad...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:48pm On Sep 14, 2020
See Havertz o! E go shock una...I fear that league, Bundesliga...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:35pm On Sep 14, 2020
At least we go hear word...See useless defense yet una no go allow person hear word...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:18pm On Sep 14, 2020
See the RLC so people were hyping here...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:10pm On Sep 14, 2020
Nezzjnr:
Bale to Manu on loan undecided

Shouldn't we just stick to Greenwood if we can't get Sancho undecided
Greenwood has earned his spot in the team. Any player that is coming in should come and fight for a starting spot...

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