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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:10pm On Dec 27, 2017
A team of super stars and average players playing together as a unit in attack and defense (Man City) is better than a collection of super stars and some average players playing disjointed football relying more on individual brilliance (Man Utd)...
The movement of our players is poor, you don't see our full backs overlapping to draw defenders away from the wingers. Most times, Young passes the ball to Martial and stops like a spectator to watch how Martial will go past 2-3 defenders and when he can't, he passes back to Young and back the ball goes to Matic, back to Jones and we repeat the sequence again...
Mou needs to work on our passing and movement and our forward play in general...We defend too deep thus whenever we recover possession, it we can't hurt the opposition immediately compared to City who press high up the pitch where they can hurt you if the chance presents itself...
Sometimes I wonder why we can't press high up the pitch like Spurs/City/Pool or Chelsea who are improving in this aspect, our players are way too comfortable retreating back and Mou has to take responsibility to be honest.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
CapitalCee:
Ok sir, since you can't read and comprehend
What else is there to comprehend when someone outrighly refers to a section of the fan base as "deluded" because they question a manager for dropping players, same manager you claimed doesn't have any freedom...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:03am On Dec 27, 2017
CapitalCee:
Fans should blame the manager accordingly, like the game versus city we lost due the managers naivety, and some other examples ofcourse where the manager failed, but most of the players need an iron hand to sit up, Luke Shaw for example is a huge talent, but even LVG complained of him not showing enough bottle. Jose has exiled him for some time now and rightly berated him, he is back with the right attitude and grit. Martial was was dross last season, after the same treatment he is currently our best forward. People were berating the manager for only trying to toughen Shaw and Martial, now the result is showing, Rashford needs the same. Some players don't need such motivations They are always charged up, like Valencia and Lingard they may lack quality but not motivation and grit.

Nice guys like Mkhi who I rate even till now, he started the season well and suddenly regressed, the manager gave him too much of a long rope, still he did not sit up, when he was dropped ? His supporters blamed it on mourinho giving him defensive responsibilities. Some have even started blaming the manager for Rashford recent petulance, that asking him to track back is the reason for his uninspiring displays.forgetting that Rashy is still young and will get better with time, thats why i am not even pissed with his play,he is in a particular phase right now, where he will frustrate You, but will develop into a world beater later. Ronaldo at his age is not posting better numbers.

My point is mourinho doesnt have the freedom to wield the axe, he is ussually blamed for every players misdemeanor.
Mourinho told you this? Same Mou that dropped one of our better players (Herrera) last season to the bench doesn't have freedom?
Same Mou that left a fit Shaw on the bench?
Same Mou that benches Mkhitaryan or drops him from the match day squad?
Same Mou that plays Lukaku almost every game even when he was serving us bullshit?
Abeg you can proceed with other excuses but this one won't fly, I'll be here to shoot it down whenever you try to launch it grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:54am On Dec 27, 2017
CapitalCee:
I have been saying this for long now. Fergie would have dished out his hairdryer against Leicester. We have a lot of nice guys in our team that you can't bench, if not deluded fans will blame the manager.
Every body is entitled to his/her opinion, stop using derogatory words to describe people because of differences in point of view...You criticize Herrera, no problem, another fan criticizes Mou and you say they're deluded...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:56pm On Dec 26, 2017
De Gea should be commanding his 18 yard better for the first goal...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:59pm On Dec 26, 2017
odizeey:
so for d sake of banter, you follow crowd abi?
We're up against Burnley, better we talk about the match...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:26pm On Dec 26, 2017
For the sake of banter isn't the same thing as I dey follow crowd...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:24pm On Dec 26, 2017
odizeey:
no be you use ur hand type say you been follow crowd?
I say for the sake of banter, it's more of a pride thingy...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:19pm On Dec 26, 2017
odizeey:
baba no dey follow mouth, na person buy your phone for you here?
You be man o, nobody can kill me for my opinion.
Them no dey give trophy for being always right here, Herrera was quite good last season but still, the limitations were obvious even though we choosed to ignore them...It's like Januzaj who looked out of this world because we were had a very bad season...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:16pm On Dec 26, 2017
chrisley024:
Like seriously huh Dude was arguably our best player last season and his department, the defence, wasn't our problem last season. So I see even no need for the argument since our attack and especially Ibra were busy squandering chances.
I meant he was a bit better...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:15pm On Dec 26, 2017
[quote author=Nihilist post=63620614][/quote]Sorry, meant he was a bit better last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
larride:
No one wants to admit it but Kagawa10 has been proved right. Herrera is a rich man Cleverly.
I always saw the limitations in Herrera's game but for the sake of banter, I always argued he was as good as Kante...And to be honest, he was a bit better last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:09pm On Dec 24, 2017
CapitalCee:
Yes mourinho was conservative, but that was not entirely the reason for the draw. Herrera is not a small boy, and he earns wages, when the manager puts you there put in a shift. Let's reduce slating mou needlessly
For me, I find it difficult to criticize Herrera because in the first place, the trajectory of the match didn't call for him, the guys I'm most displeased with is Lingard, Rashford and Mkhitaryan...Smalling should have shown a lot more will to win by pushing himself more...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:01pm On Dec 24, 2017
chrisley024:
This is a flimsy excuse. At this period, the team was losing possession at little or no pressure whenever they go forward. Why can't this team string 4-5 passes without losing it huh
Only probable reason, either the players are average or their trainer isn't good enough...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:00pm On Dec 24, 2017
chrisley024:
Let's not make claim of what we don't know. No one knows the extent of the injury. The point is with injury he shouldn't be inside our box. We had other tall players that should have helped since the team chose to be defending against a 10-man Leicester.
Smalling should be pushing himself they, I have seen Rooney play through pain for the love of the club and his winning mentality. You're right that he should have been sent up the pitch, Matic should prolly have covered for him but since it didn't happen, he should and could have stretched himself to the limit there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:57pm On Dec 24, 2017
CapitalCee:
That doesn't Still warrant or excuse the Spaniard uselessness
Yes it doesn't excuse his uselessness neither does it absolves Mou of his utter conservative approach to games...He is equally useless.
Crime › Re: Police Blow Up Testicles Of Kidnappers In Abia State (Graphic Photos, Video) by patrickmuf(m): 12:54pm On Dec 24, 2017
The Nigerian police is a disgrace, whatever happened to the phrase "not guilty until proven otherwise by a court of competent jurisdiction"
I give up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:41pm On Dec 24, 2017
I still don't get why that foolish gunner is all over this space foaming in the mouth, your team isn't doing well, your best players have openly registered their discontent by not signing a new deal, so why are you here or you don't know the basis for trolling?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:35pm On Dec 24, 2017
CapitalCee:
I heard the commentary during the match, but being that i have criticized Herrera too much on this forum I just chose to desist from saying it. Herrera is a very useless player, whenever he plays, he is a liability to the team, Mourinho should just get rid of these mercenaries quickly, Mourinho seem to have gotten soft since he came to united, deal with these lazy guys stealing a living in our team once and for all
If not for Mou's conservative approach, Herrera shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place, his combination with Matic and Pogba doesn't work at all talk less of a match where we were comfortable dominating the midfield...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:31pm On Dec 24, 2017
elampiro:
Afrodoc2

What kind of injury would not allow someone to even move one yard? Are these guys not lazy sef? I have a feeling that Phil Jones would have defended that ball with his last breath and ready to go for 3 months injury.

How many times do street footballers or amateur footballers get these yeye injuries in Nigeria? Except old men returning to football.
On point, Smalling is just a sissy, look at Wilshere who was fond of forming injury until Wenger toughened up and was about to send him out of the club to just about any team, isn't Wilshere playing his heart now? Smalling is mentally weak and lazy like most English players, I mean just stretch yourself for about 2 min but no, the dude was out of the pitch at one point...
I was so upset yesterday, how do you play in a very good pitch with proper officiating and still get injured at every slight instance when people play in erosion ravaged pitch here where two footed tackle is the norm and the only way your folks will liken you to Maldini/Nesta (Wonder where they saw Maldini and Nesta going in two footed, lol) and never get injured...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:02am On Dec 24, 2017
Reading through, we over reacted after the match yesterday but truth be told, Mou shouldn't have brought on Herrera, we didn't need him and on the other hand, Rashford has regressed or isn't really all that we think he is (I go with this position), Lingard and Mkhitaryan should be doing better with the chances that came their way...Too conservative a coach and too average a host of players...Massive clear out needed and it must start from the January window.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:24pm On Dec 23, 2017
Please stop saying Van Gaal stuffed the team with average players, Mourinho and Pep both came in same time, both met average players, Pep went about replacing them after a season but Mou decided they were good enough but you want us to blame LVG? No, Mou should take the blame for failing to do away with them...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:00pm On Dec 23, 2017
CapitalCee:
let's just focus on getting the top 4. We don't have the players for the league. In our entire squad, the only people that deserve to be in united are. Matic, Pogba, Lukaku, DDG, Valencia, Bailly and Martial and may be Rashford because he is still up and coming. I will clear out the rest.
Please remove Rashford, Mbappe is young but he's easily better...Rashford does not know when to pass, when to shoot, when to run, when to slow it down etc and it's the essential thing that makes for a good player; decision making...The chance he missed, Schmeichel wasn't even close but he attempted to dribble past him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:55pm On Dec 23, 2017
Herrera was a defensive sub, Rashford was brought on to provide more defensive cover for Young same with Mkhitaryan on the other side...Without the substitutes we would have won today.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:53pm On Dec 23, 2017
CapitalCee:
People are quick to blame Lukaku, but he is the reason we are getting more goals than last season. And he did well in this match. Martial and Rashford are young though, I will excuse them.
Age has got nothing to do with the poor performance of Rashford today. I am quite sure Martial would have done better than he did presented with similar chances
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:51pm On Dec 23, 2017
The same Rashford people think is better than Sterling...Rashford should be sent back to the U-21s
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:49pm On Dec 23, 2017
adexeli:
Mourinho should never have substituted Martial, he was filled with momentum. Rashford needs to be given a stern treatment, RUBBISH!!
Seriously, I don't know why folks here are mentioning Martial when he was quite easily one of our better players, Lingard, Rashford, Mkhitaryan should be blamed big time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:47pm On Dec 23, 2017
Mourinho is just foolish, why Herrera, we were absolutely dominating the midfield...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:44pm On Dec 23, 2017
Lingard, Rashford and Mkhitaryan are just brainless
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:40pm On Dec 23, 2017
This is just rubbish, Rashford shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11, bang average player...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:27pm On Dec 23, 2017
Leyqute:
It's really shameful the number of chances we've squandered in this game
Lingard and Rashford...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:27pm On Dec 23, 2017
slimghost:
Rashford has regressed notably. So unfortunate.
If we draw today, it's down to him and Lingard missing guilt edge chances

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