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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:20am On Nov 23, 2024
afrodoc2:
It is a poisoned chalice.

If he decides to do "No comments" the press will turn against him early and run their agendas against him. He has to play nice a bit to get a soft landing with them.

The main problem is the inordinate attention the Man Utd job gets. Other managerial positions don't get scrutinized to this level. If you watch the interview, he didn't really say too much but because it has been repeatedly plastered everywhere it comes out different.

At least he didn't say all eras come to an end. grin
😂 😂 😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:15am On Nov 23, 2024
Oasis007:
"I think that, all together, we can improve the process of recruitment and I have to understand the league, that is important and when everything aligns, everything is on the same page, we can [correctly] buy and sell players."

Rúben Amorim
He sounds like someone that has been on this thread. He seems to understand the club and the challenge ahead. I hope he is successful here and for a long time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m): 10:46am On Nov 23, 2024
igbosarejews:
Have you heard that US invaded any southern American states before. But Russia did it in Poland, in Finland, In Chechnya2001, in Georgia 2008, in Ukraine 2014 and back again in 2022
You are just impossible. Is Russia pursuing an aggressive military strategy like the US and NATO? Have you seen or read of Russia's military expansion close to the US borders?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m): 10:11am On Nov 23, 2024
igbosarejews:
Why is Russia invading it's neighbors?
Because of NATO expansion. The US will do same but I don't expect you to know or acknowledge that.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m): 10:10am On Nov 23, 2024
uniquetechng:
America spend times 14 of what Russia spend on defence annually, what do you think they spend the billions on ?
Russia is overrated without nukes and Putin know America can't be messed with.
US is the only country on earth that maintains military bases in North America, South America, Asia and Europe not even China and Russia can do that successfully and America has been doing it for decades.
You asked and answered your question. America military budget is huge because they have to maintain military bases across the world, it doesn't necessarily mean all the money is pent on weapon production.

The whole of NATO is struggling to supply Ukraine with weapons because they don't have enough stockpiles. Just good how much it takes to keep an aircraft carrier operational and you'd know why America's military budget is huge.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m): 10:04am On Nov 23, 2024
igbosarejews:
Have you heard of USA invasion of Mexico, Cuba, Canada and some southern American states.
But Putler invaded and took Chechnya in 2002, invaded Georgia and too about 30% of Georgian territory 2008 Invaded Ukraine in 2014, Invaded with Germany in 1928 against Poland, invaded Finland.

If you have a crazy neighbor, aren't you going to look for ways to save guard yourself.
Why is NATO expanding towards Russia? The US won't accept a Chinese or Russian military base in Mexico, Canada or any bordering country. Some of you are really clueless here.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m):
Arrowhead71:
Putin advocate , continue to hype your master , if your Putin sure say he get special thing , why go after weak Ukraine who did not offend him , or did Ukraine shot any bullet at Russia before your mad Putin went and attack Ukraine, because you make it look like your madman Putin love peace than the entire world put together , , in your imagination you know all American weapons , ok tell Putin to shoot one of his nonsense to America so we can find out the result ,
You attack whoever attacks you. If Russia supplies Cuba with Khinzal missiles and Cuba fires at the US, you think the US will attack Russia?

Why didn't Israel attack Iran? It's common knowledge that Iran funds and arms Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis..
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia Tests New Hypersonic Missile "Oreshnik" On Ukraine (Video) by patrickmuf(m): 8:36pm On Nov 22, 2024
Newtownconcrete:
Did Ukraine attack Russia like Hamas did?
Are you thinking from your anus?
Will the US tolerate a Russian military expansion to Cuba, Mexico or Canada?

Some of you have little or no knowledge of the situation at hand but you bark the loudest.
Foreign AffairsRe: Ukraine Fires British Storm Shadow Missiles Into Russia. by patrickmuf(m): 9:26am On Nov 21, 2024
chatinent:
How do you borrow weaponry to fight a country even the US wouldn't wish to fight directly?

You preach peace and you allow the West to keep deceiving and manipulating you! In your mind, you are the Isreal of Europe! I don't support Russia's actions but they are bigger than you in everything! More lives need not be lost!

Russia has more nuclear arsenal than NATO, more tanks, better soldiers if the war is brought to its land, and a better advantage in landmass. That is not to forget its sophisticated anti-aircraft systems. If you underrated Russia anything more than a very significant world power, then you miscalculated. Let me explain what I am trying to say, if Nigeria was Ukraine for example, Russia has the capability to turn the whole 36 states into dust if it wishes!

These are NATO countries with the highlighted as its top military strength:
1. Belgium
2. Canada
3. Denmark
4. France
5. Iceland
6. Italy
7. Luxembourg
8. Netherlands
9. Norway
10. Portugal
11. United Kingdom: (The United Kingdom (UK) is made up of four countries: England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland)
12. United States
13. Greece (1952)
14. Turkey (1952)
15. Germany (1955)
16. Spain (1982)
17. Czech Republic (1999)
18. Hungary (1999)
19. Poland (1999)
20. Bulgaria (2004)
21. Estonia (2004)
22. Latvia (2004)
23. Lithuania (2004)
24. Romania (2004)
25. Slovakia (2004)
26. Slovenia (2004)
27. Albania (2009)
28. Croatia (2009)
29. Montenegro (2017)
30. North Macedonia (2020)
31. Finland (2023)
32. Sweden (2024)

These countries work together on political and security issues, making collective decisions to ensure mutual defense and stability. Now you can imagine what it means for all these countries to be impossible to attack Russia! Then you know Russia aren't a joke!

Moreover, Ukraine are sister states to Russia with shared ancestry, plus its proximity. Believe me, if America was located where Ukraine is, they would have chosen another approach than this.

I hope those congratulating you will not take their words back when there is a hit! Badly, if Russia nukes Ukraine, nothing will happen! America cannot do anything about it! They'll only withdraw their troops!

Besides, America should not pretend like we forgot that it nuked Japan for a mere confrontation too! Hiroshima history still lives!

If WW3 happens, the hierarchy of world powership will change. African enslavement to the west will end too!
A good read. I think Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, Greece, Canada, Finland and Poland have upgraded their military in the past 10-15 years. Poland and Romania most especially so, they're a force but not in the league of China, USA, Russia, France and UK. Of the lot, Only the USA can go toe-to-toe with Russia but even the US will not want that to happen because Americans just can't live through a war compared to Russians.

If anyone thinks Russia has shown its hand in Ukraine, then that fella is in for a surprise. Putin knows who the real enemies are and when they square up, that's when we will see weapons no one knew existed from both sides. In all, China stands to benefit from any direct confrontation between Russia and NATO because it will most likely herald the beginning of a new world order led by China.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:28pm On Nov 20, 2024
Jamiuokolaa:
Ah thank God o

Finally undecided
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:47am On Nov 20, 2024
People have asked you to point to where fans turned on Ten Hag here after his first couple of games as you insinuated but instead of dropping receipts, you are trying to start aa fight.

I am just glad that people can see through your poorly constructed agenda. Bin Laden's attorney.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:43am On Nov 20, 2024
maik99:
It is easy to say you supported him because he changed his tactics after the first two games and then went on to do well; finishing third and winning a trophy
Would you mr Patrickmuf, have supported him if he stuck to his tactics and kept losing with a counter-attacking team that was not suited to his system?
Whatever your answer is, it will not change the fact that you are a clown btw
Says the child in an adult's body. Your MCM is gone, if you can't get over it, you can join him.

Whoever said he would have kept losing games if he had stuck to his game? You just construct whatever it is in your head and run with it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:46am On Nov 20, 2024
Oasis007:
grin


I don't understand why some folks are making it seems like fans didn't stand with ETH enough, especially in his first year in charge.

What fans actually want his Identity and gradual progress. The rotten is obvious hence can't be fixed in a season.

ETH had his chance, promised to end an era to no avail. He succumbed to pressure, lost his ways and ran the club to wilderness.

Modafucker was chasing second tiers trophies at all costs, care less how we got them. Every opportunity, he would remind us he won 2 trophies in his first 2 seasons. LOL!

Amorim is a breathe of fresh air with a clear renewed hope agenda. He has rest of the season to prove he is indeed him. Maresca of Chelsea had clear philosophy hence majority of their fans are sticking with him this season regardless of result.

Pep didn't win the league in his first season but his idea was clear to their fans. Flick may not win La Liga this season and their fans won't ask for his head.

Kompany even though a rookie is enjoying life at Bayern cos he sticks with same philosophy that relegated Burnley back to championship. The board feel potentials in the philosophy and believe they have the tools for him to succeed with it at the club.

Amorim.......show us the path and we will follow you. Ignore the path and we will abandon you. Simple.
That Maik dude is just pushing an agenda. We were all here and we can dig. ETH got all the support especially in his first season. It was when it became obvious that we were not going anywhere with him that some of us started raising concerns. S
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:44am On Nov 20, 2024
maik99:
It’s not about you but the general feeling around Amorim’s appointment and the good vibes following his resumption
Fans were going to give ETH a whole season when everywhere was already on meltdown after that 4-0 loss to Brentford?
I wish Ruben all the best at arguably the toughest job in football
Fans on X are not the same with the fans here. Drop receipts...

I don't think Bin Laden lost any support after that game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:50am On Nov 19, 2024
CapitalCee:
aftodoc2.

From the training video that I saw, Evans the CCB was tasked with finding attackers with long passes, especially the LWB. Can De Ligt do that? I doubt it oo, if there is one thing Delight can’t do well, its pass out from defence. Martinez and Maguire are the best in doing that.
Yoro has always been tailor made for the RCB, and thats where I see De ligt thriving.
Please go and check out De Ligt, passing is one of his strong points.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:54am On Nov 19, 2024
afrodoc2:
cheesy Calm down until we see workings. There are loads of pics of Case smiling and laughing at training when ETH was here.
Oasis007 na case...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:20pm On Nov 16, 2024
Mrviktor:
Every day we dey post amori.

This man better win Ipswich..

Every 2 hours ..new amori quotes
Oga we have heard and identified you as the number one Amorim hater in the thread. I hope you can rest now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:53am On Nov 16, 2024
Me I go support Amorim until I see that we are not going to make any progress under him but some folks here are already writing him off even before we see the team play a couple of games under him. If after 1 he full season, I start complaining (that's assuming things are not going according to plan) they'll say I'm impatient but we have not watched even a game under him yet some fans are already sure he will struggle here.

Amorim has my full backing until I watch the team under him for some months and he has at least two transfer window under his belt starting from the January transfer window.

If Amorim fails, a lot of coaches will not be keen to take the job at Old Trafford.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:39am On Nov 16, 2024
Oasis007:
We know that we need time, but we have to win time. To win time is to win games. But the most important thing for me is identity. So since day one we will start with our identity.

"Of course we are going to prepare the games, but we will focus a lot in our game model. How to play, how to press, these small things, small details. You cannot go 100% on every detail because it will be confusing for the players. So if I have to say one thing, my main goal, my first goal, is identity
.”

- Rúben Amorim
He is spot on here...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:14pm On Nov 10, 2024
afrodoc2:
The guy's short and medium range passing is still iffy. He messed up a few easy passes today but more than made up for it with his tackling and pressing. If we are to challenge for titles soon though he has to improve on the passing, otherwise it would be another Herrera situation.
I feel he will thrive with the incoming set-up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:25pm On Nov 10, 2024
afrodoc2:
Yeah Ugarte was the guy.

Still want to see more before i apologise. 😀
Hehehe...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:58pm On Nov 10, 2024
CapitalCee:
Dalot is having a nightmare game. Tufiakwa!

Meanwhile Ugarte is a tank. I misunderstood him before, I apologise
I knew he was going to come good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:27pm On Nov 07, 2024
odizeey:
I know that's why you chose to stan Messi. cheesy

If Ronaldo had won those 5 balon d'ors, and 5 ucls with us, no united fan will ever stan Messi. Hehehe.

It pained me at that time. But I'm glad he left because he probably would have not achieved what he did with Madrid. We were on decline.

Maybe not decline at the time but maybe he analysed the matter and saw Madrid would suit him best.
I used to follow and I still do follow Barcelona as much as I do United. So, it was easy for me to like Messi even though Man Utd is my favourite club. Back then, I used to argue that Ronaldo was better because he added goals to his game before Messi but when Ronaldo left, I was just too pained and that coincided with the period Messi reinvented his game like Ronaldo did earlier so I opted to Stan Messi...I am also left-footed so maybe that's another thing that made me choose Messi...

Make I no talk too much, I no fit forgive Ronaldo for leaving for Madrid. It's the most painful period for me as a United fan...

I also started to hate Rooney when he pushed for a move away. It was that overhead kick against City that made me forgive and forget...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:46am On Nov 07, 2024
Jamiuokolaa:
As a Utd fan, His transfer was painful, considering the circumstances but baba,from a Neutral POV....I can't fault any player for wanting to join Real Madrid
We were clearly better than Madrid that time na why e pain me and to see him achieve all that at Madrid was very painful.

We would have won at least 3 UCL if Ronaldo didn't leave. TrebleChamp you don see why I dey vex for your man?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:19am On Nov 07, 2024
TrebleChamp:
Patrick and his mates are suffering from fake hate syndrome, they be forming hate Ronaldo just to be in the opposition.
You don carry me put for the front.

I don't think I will ever forgive Ronaldo for leaving Man Utd at that time he did...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:14am On Nov 07, 2024
Jokerman:
Oga, you have no point.

In the 21st century Man UTd, Ronaldo is ranked 1st, then others.

There's a reason Ferguson said Ronaldo is the only world class talent he ever coached in his 21st century players
I know when you hear Ronaldo, you lose your senses. So Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, RVP and others were not world class abi?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:14am On Nov 07, 2024
afrodoc2:
Bro, you ranked JS Park above Cristiano Ronaldo.
Well, I went overboard there but my point still stands.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:58pm On Nov 06, 2024
spillo1:
The point is why will you judge Ronaldo by his Madrid performance when we are talking about his impact at United. You are basically saying if Ronaldo had flopped at Madrid, you will rate his performance at United higher. This is like an Aberdeen fan saying Ferguson is not a legend or great at the club because he reached an higher level at United.
The point I raised and stand by is that Ronaldo was top level here only for 3 years and those were not his best years. If Rooney had joined a rival andgone ahead to win 4 UCLs, 3 leagues titles and other trophies, many here won't rank him that high...Rooney is ranked that high because he spent the peak of his career here. Fans will always appreciate that over a few great seasons unless they're fan boys.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:51pm On Nov 06, 2024
Jokerman:
So winning all individual awards wey even Giggs with his 100 years no win, no be best of a player?
Giggs delivered consistently for longer periods.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:36pm On Nov 06, 2024
spillo1:
This post doesn't even follow your logic. Was Ronaldo not one of the best players in the world at United? Was Ronaldo peak form and performance not greater than Rio, Evra and Park own? Park was not even a guaranteed starter in most of his career at United. You wanted to use longevity until you found out Ronaldo spent similar years as Evra, Park , Vidic etc. No one is talking about his career at Madrid so your Forlan example and career he went on to have after leaving United angle doesn't even follow.
Well, the others spent their peak years here. I don't know why you're missing this point. Ronaldo was good here but we didn't see the best of him here. If Keane, Rooney, Vidic, Evra and the likes left before reaching their peak, I won't rank them so high.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:01pm On Nov 06, 2024
spillo1:
That perspective is very wrong. Those great and good season you mentioned trumps whatever best football Evra and Park served at United. You judge players by their career peak at a club. If Rashford stayed at United till 30 then leave to a mid table club would you rate him over Ronaldo because he played his best football at United.
Rashford's best did not come with trophies and was not good enough compared to other players at the time. It's like Kane and his goals for Spurs, even though he was very prolific, people just won't rate him highly enough when he retires but Spurs fans will.

Back to United, Evra was one of the best LBs in the world while he was here same as Ferdinand. Park was the engine room of the team so, I rate them highly based on that. It's like saying Forlan is a United great because of the career he went on to have after leaving the club. Don't get me wrong, Ronaldo had aa great 3 years here but for me, I won't put him above the likes of Rio, Evra, Vidic when ranking our greatest ever players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:17pm On Nov 06, 2024
spillo1:
Ronaldo spent 7 seasons at United. Evra spent 8 seasons. Park did 7 seasons like Ronaldo. Keane did 4 seasons going by the 21st century timeline. What impact did those players have here that trumps Ronaldo?
Ronaldo had 1 great season here and 2 very good seasons before he left. He was entering his peak when he left for Madrid compared to those players who played their best football at United. You might not agree but this is the perspective I'm looking at.

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