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Emeka was just testing the waters while for Biodun, the taste of the buding is in the licking.
Gosh.

emmyrichie:
my question is: is the guy from Kogi st? Does he have any point in his genealogy relating to Kogi st?

Has he ever lived in the state for years?

Are there no other credible persons in the state that could be picked as his running mate?

This is getting serious. Pls I don't buy this idea.

Man, what matters is he is a bona fide Oduduwa that is qualified to run for elections anywhere on Oodua land. Settled.

chocolateme:
OK but the real breaking news now is that I just broke my phone screen and that is BREAKING NEWS.


FTC
Chocolate cream

Sorry, i donate the lense of my glassed for replacement.

Curlieweed:
I don't really know what motivated Ango Abdullahi's comment but I suspect it was frustration at apparent waning of the Arewa strangle hold on political power. Things have now changed and we again have a resurgent Arewa leadership.

If you think about it strategically, as far as the Arewa elite class maintains a firm grip at the centre, there is absolutely no motivation to change the status quo. In realpolitik you can't get far by appealing to your opponents kind heart. The best situation would've been one where they are out of power at the centre long enough to agree to some basic restructuring. With Mumuharri in power, that particular ship has sailed
and more desperate options need to be explored.

Yes you are right but Ango made that statement after Buhari's ascendancy.
Anyway Gej left things too late. I blame him for not seizing on the opportunity that came begging.
Unfortunately, he lost to western conspiracy.

Whilst nigerians trade blames on Gej's loss, they overlooked the west's angst against him for standing firm on same-sex marriage because it marked the beginning of his end in power.

Well, Buhari/north or not, nothing can stop or stand in the way of an idea whose time has come.

Nigeria is a building that is bound to crash.

VickJames:
Oh my goodness, this is a wonderful write-up from a learned and well-read man. I salute your intelligence and condole on your friend's death.

I really hope for a peaceful dissolution of this union, if it comes to war, I will really fight to avoid war. I can still remember vividly the way we had to come up from scratch to become what we're now and it wasn't easy.

I have been reading different news in this country and you'll see that things are going from bad to worse everyday. Many graduates are at home. Go to job/vacancy on nairaland and look at the number of people looking for jobs. Its very bad. Many of our learned brothers have
turned to one mode of survival to another. This is not good.

The question I always ask, if oil was in the core north, will southerners
populate the NNPC like the northerner dominate all NNPC offices in the south.

God, in his infinite kindness see the cries of our people and liberate us
from parasitic associations.

Amen and thanks, bro.

Curlieweed:
Thanks for the post. A lot of people have now come to doubt the possibility of a peaceful restructuring of this country. The inflexible stance adopted by the Arewa representatives at the last national conference and Mumuharri's off hand dismissal of the results have erased any doubt in the mind of most reasonable people that a peaceful solution to our structural problem will be feasible.

That is true. But curiously, i recollected that Dr Ango Abdullahi advocated the seperation of the country, didn't he ?
Given the fact that he is an influential figure in the north, would it be out of place to assume his statement was a feelers of underground mainstream thinking ?

As for Buhari, i consider him inconsequential if one or more segments of the country is about to get the UN involved. Pressing the right diplomatic buttons is all it takes to do that.

VickJames:
I understand that there were anomalies in the war that cannot be taken back and from what my elder brother told me, he said they didn't want to attack the yorubaland but the capital. The midwestern invasion was a result of distraction of the federal forces who had taken over of owerri. So, they thought the need to protec
t their region will make them reduce forces at owerri and try to take back the midwestern region.

The bombing of ebute metta was a
result of the fact that Lagos was the capital. I stayed in Ebute Metta, infact. I'm sorry if it affected you in
anyway. Those were the consequence of war.

I am not mincing words, I don't like
the setting of this country. Its too parasitic. I'm not suffering but a well-read man will understand that the system is too parasitic. If we can go our separate ways and be good neighbours, then excellent. I will still
love to come to lagos to do business while you can do business in Aba. Everyone will respect his/her hosts.

If a people with a population as much as the other people cannot bring
anything to the table. The people
should be divided and let them find what they can do for themselves. I am still saying it, the economy will be going a down spiral until this country divides and everyone develop at his own pace.

I share your perception on the need for this country to seperate but i believe that doing so peacefully will augur well for everybody. Honestly speaking, there is no region of this country, east, west or north, that
cannot sustain itself in the event of seperation.

I recollected Gowon saying that the basis for nigeria unity did not exist at all but why he failed to act appropriately beats me hollow.

Especially with Awolowo's steadfast emphasis on the fact nigeria was merely a geographical expression, meaning that its unity wasn't sustainable.
It was unfortunate that the yoruba
were virtually non-existent in the army during the crisis because our people saw the profession and the police as belonging to the low life so it was generally discouraged by most families. However, it served as a
terrible setback for us because otherwise, we were convinced that Awolowo and our leaders would've taken the SW out of Nigeria.

When Awolowo gave the FG ultimatum to withdraw northern soldiers from the SW that his people saw them as an army of occupation and the call was immediately heeded,
a staggering reality followed - that yoruba footsoldiers were so scanty that we had'nt sufficient number to even man our porous borders talkless of defending the land. I remembered my uncle who told us this weeping like a child on his return from an

elders' meeting saying the statistic was the reason the SW could not attempt a breakaway because the british and some powerful countries were solidly behind the north and that strangely, they seemed to hate the
idea of Awolowo leading a seperate country out of nigeria. So the conclusion reached at the meetings was that an attempt might be suicidal.

Thanks for your apology about the Ebute Metta bombing. Is it not ironic that you even lived in the area too ?
Actually, i would've been a victim but still pertially one.
I lost a very close friend; both of us were cinema addicts. On that
particular night, we planned to go but it so happened that an elderly neighbour of mine, a man we knew as Ibo ( kobokobo) as we new them, but wether he was from the core east or mid-west, we could'nt say, advised me to shelve my going because i suddenly developed a runing
stomach. This man had a hotel (Right Time Hotel) almost opposite my residence. The bus stop was directly in front of this hotel, so while i wai
ted for my friend to join me at the bus stop, i decided to ask this hotel
proprietor ( he was one of numerous ibos that refused to heed the call to return home) what i could use to suppress the stooling but he told me to shelve my going if i didn't want to make myself a nuisance to other
viewers by patronising the toilet constantly coupled with the fact that i would not even enjoy the film anyway. I decided to heed his advice but my friend decided to go all the same and that was how i lost him. He died later to a fatal injury.
Call it fate.

Since we both experienced a failed attempt at seperation, i pray that the Lord grant us the uncommon grace to witness a peacefully successful dissolution of the discordant and incompatible union.

VICARIOS FILI DEI - 666 - THE POPE - CATHOLIC.

CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS - THEIR OWN CLAIM - ITS A RELIGION.

"CHRISTIAN" DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF BEARFRAUDISTAN.

IBOS, TAKE NOTE - IF ITS NOT PANADOL, IT CAN NEVER BE LIKE PANADOL.

YOU CAN ONLY COPY THE YORUBA BUT YOU CAN NEVER BE LIKE THEIR GENIUS SELF. STOO FAKING.

IBO - THE ARTIFICIAL JEWS AND MASTERS OF COUNTERFEITING.

IGBO BLOODY AND SHAMELESS COPYCAT RATS.
THATS NO FUCKING USA.
ITS A NOLLYWOOD FILM VILLAGE SETTING IN NIGERIA.

NO AFRICAN PALMTREE GROWS IN USA.

CRIMINAL LYING, COPYCAT SHAMELESS IBO CROOKS.
THE APPLICANT JEWS OF NIGERIA.

Azu, mmaazu, Odugwe, Odiegwu o

truefact:
Fetish cowards. ..very diabolical set of people. ..ritualistics Scratchfaceds with coneheads. ...Always carrying outdated talking drums here and there...Even with their jujustic rituals, they are not any better than others, rather they even worse if I may say...is brown roofs development? Ritual-killers everywhere

Yorubas it is not by juju...Even with
your juju and rituals, you are still cowards

Thanks for expressing your abject pain, deep sorrow and a suicidal frustration at Yoruba' glory.
Please tell your people to inform us when your frustration leads you to your inevitable suicide so that we can R.I.P you.
kwenu, oyamburu, nwa Osu. Kachifonu.

Ilekeh:
Exactly, how can a tribe persist indigenously in not 1, not 2, but close to 5 countries?

Nigeria, Rep. of Benin, Togo, USA, Brazil, Cuba, maybe Haiti.

ERODEDEAST:
YORUBA is a "RACE" not a "TRIBE"


Pls take Note

Lastly I hereby declare this thread free from the eastern earthworms any attempt to invade this beautiful thread is an attempt on Lagos Lagoon. I have seriously #LANDED

A million-dollar, classic post considering the source.

Ilekeh:
He even got tribal marks to complete it.

My boss loves anything Yoruba. He's always to so happy to introduce me to people, I'm like CHILLLL.

He was so excited when he found out that our university not only have African studies, but a separate Yoruba studies (not just Yoruba language) department. When he told me, I was like.....so? Almost all top American universities have Yoruba language courses.

Funny guy.

People love Yoruba culture, no lie.


For mischievous rodents asking
how this will impact Yoruba lives in Nigeria:

The Yoruba village in South Carolina impacts the lives of Yorubas and non-Yorubas in America who wants to
learn more about the Yoruba culture.
Their value and mission is not to help ekiti or Ilesan or osogbo people in NIgeria. Their mission is to enrich the lives of people with information. Information is power.
Oduduwa a gbe a o!

Ase ooo

Invasion of privacy ? Please how ?
He told her what will happen. She willingly went to him in private, surrendered her money followed by her body. This is her story not Kalu's.
So where is invasion here ? Is the police serious ?

tolexy007:
instead make she dey thank God say the spiritualist no rape her

?

HerTotoDeySmell:
The fake spiritualist stripped and bathed her because the woman toto just dey smell. Nor be hin fault.

Hmmm, what a Coincidence.

pazienza:
Biafrans are not idle. We are working. Currently the Biafran region( SE and parts of SS) has the best human development indices figures in Nigeria, Educationally we are also ahead.
https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statisticshttp://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-attainment
But we recognize the fact that we are punching below our weight, we can do better once we free ourselves from
the Arewa-odua burden that draws us back.

Hello, would you be good enough to stop joining Oodua to whatever you believe is/are holding you down because we are not involved in such.

From the 1st to the 3rd republics, the Ibos, led by Zik, aligned with the north
decidedly against the SW, but our leaders never once infered what you are wrongly insinuating here.
There are ibo leaders in the APC as well.

VickJames:
To be frank with you, I don't hate yorubas. You can never see me insult them. But I want them to start fighting to be independent. The country can't stand again. Many people feel I hate Buhari but the economy is crumbling and will continue to crumble.

Why?

We can't determine the oil price and the foreign market. We're like a puppet in the world market. I am seriously saying this, the north is enjoying from anything that's happening. You ask me how? The number of graduates in their part is
really small. Give them okada and they'll be thankful. But we try to
educate our children to go to school and get something doing. When we get educated we're in one way indebted to the outcome of the international market. So, when it
doesn't favour us, we remain unemployed and any attempt at business will fail.

Yorubas have the resources and I pray someone should stand up and fight. I read the other day that dangote and his brothers wants to
invest in your gold mines. Another money that your brother should enjoy will still go up north and your brother cannot invest in the gold in sokoto.

Please, I am not divisive, I am only
saying we should enjoy what we have to help our own brothers. If you like, give others from good will.

I feel really moved by your treatise.
But i must say you are a drop in a tea-cup. This is the sort of thing that should be happening between us, the ibo and yoruba, exchanging ideas, advising one another and planning together from which we both stand to benefit a lot.

Let us agree that our forefathers sowed the seed of discord amongst us in their time, but must we propergate such attitude in this century ? Can we sustain such feelings without leading to needless conflagration ?

I witnessed the war as a youth. Any sane yoruba will feel incensed by ibos' vilification of his tribe over the war rather than being grateful to us for the following reasons -
1. I lived at Fadeyi, along Ikorodu road at the time. The northern soldiers, who we refered to jokingly as " godogodo", prowled around picking up ibos while our people were shielding and hiding those they could from arrest. Many of such ibos remained in our midst, fed by our people throughout the war. I was a living witness.

2. No ibo was recorded to have been harrassed or molested in the entire SW. Our sympathy recided with the ibos over what happened in the north. It was an issue freely discussed by our people.

3. Awolowo risked his life against all the conceivable odds to visit Ojukwu to advise him against the mission in order to prevent what followed. Don't forget he must've been privy to some military and diplomatic data at the federal end before this trip.
It is not impossible that their discussions were recorded by Ojukwu's aids. But instead of spreading innuendos about Awo and the yoruba, why didn't Chinua Achebe or any of the inner circle publish this record to let the world know what really transpired if not for mischief.

4. It was only yoruba people, in the persons of late Tai Solarin and Wole Soyinka who risked their lives to supply food aids and other items to our ibo brethren in the war. Be reminded that our people and leaders were fully aware of these missions but did not discourage them. The actions of the duo was a carry-forward of the feelings of sympathy of our people for the ibo, hence they weren't dissuaded.

5. Inspite of all the above, the ibo decided to plant the first deadly bomb at a yoruba cinema in a yoruba residential area at Ebute Meta with no other mission intended than to kill yorubas.

6. The ibos decided to invade our land without involving our leaders knowing full well the risk factor for our people.

7. We can safely assume that we
and the ibos are not related but after the war, it is on record that every surviving ibo person who
left property behind in the entire SW had their property handed back to them on their return.
There were even cases of some that had tenants in their property who had all the areas of rentage paid to them to start a new life.

Whereas, the issue of abandoned property came up in PH, a city populated by the close cousins of the ibo.

So if an average yoruba gets pissed off by the ibo at the turn
of events can any sane person blame them ? Nay what did the yoruba need to do to be their brothers' keeper that they failed to do ?
Victor Banjo was executed along with ibo officers and died for the biafra cause.

Throughout the war, i resided at 4, Ikorodu road, Fadeyi, so i was a living witness and an avid reader of Daily Times, etc.

As for the yoruba planning for self-determination, be rest assured that we are not sitting idle but don't believe in raising dust until its necessary.

From the statenents of our leaders, you would've noticed that they always harp on a return to full regionalism or else.
Of all the tribes south of the Niger it is the yoruba that has suffered more setback and carried the brunt if unitary system of government.
We are fully convinced that Nigeria is an unsustainable experiment that can't work.

Adios.

pazienza:
Lol! Yorubas are the only group in Africa that can match and even outdo Biafrans if they put their mind into it , Oodua country has the potential to match and even outrun Biafra in human development indices.

But the problem is that they are too obsessed with the Igbo man
progress, that they often lose sight of the big picture, which is the fact that stopping the Igbo man progress, will not make them progressive. They can only progress by working on their
own progress, without minding whatever the Igbo man is doing.

My bro, there you get it very wrong.
Mainstream yoruba has nothing against the biafra project, forget the comical jesters and jestings on nairaland. Please remove that perception from your system.
Naturally, the yoruba wants to be left alone and hates to be provoked.

In inner caucuses, we do discuss biafra and pray for its peaceful resolution.

[quote author=VickJames post=37892862]I know they have the intellectual power to do things but they have become lazy over time. They have started becoming too dependent on the state and that's not good for a people who will want future development.

The yoruba people have a lot of intelligent people amongst them, so if they can sit down and see the importance of the cocoa, bitumen, gold and access to the sea. They can actually grow. But the problem is, they've grown weak and they just want sit down and do nothing about their freedom.

No doubt, no ethnic group will suffer when secession comes. I foresee the yorubas doing well on their own
rather than this unholy union. They should start seeking independence, it will help their people more so that they can fully develop the potential of their land


Nigerians don't have the technical know-how to hold a population of 170million. The number of people that will continue to suffer will
continue to increase. We keep lying to ourselves that we're blessed with natural resources. The natural resources deposits cannot develop a people of 170million. So, its better they find solution to their future now.[/quote



Very sensible.
But let me add that the seeming tardiness of the Yoruba is due to the nigerian system which kills the spirit of patriotism plus the eroding of competition occasioned by the abrogation of regionalism.

kernel501:
Your fore fathers fought to have us named with them, and our agitation to stand on our own runs the Yorubas gaga, why?

Is it by force to be in a union?

No, they didn't fight you in order to have you named with them but rather to teach you a lesson that chest-beating does not pay but leads, in the final analysis, to destruction, shame and regret, i.e. Hitler, Napoleon, Saddam Husein, Ojukwu, etc.

kernel501:
All was against foreigners, not Igbos.
Am not surprise that hate promotes lies, we are bad why do you forcefully want to keep us at the expense of lives and property?

WHO is keeping you or YOU are not ready to go ?

This Dr. Samuel Okafor can lie.
A Pro. Frank Ndili attained a Phd in his early twenties yet remained virtually unknown ! Thats a crack. Phd in his early twenties at that era ? Hmmm.

The first set of people he quoted are said to be ibo slaves. But i thought the ibos boast that they were never taken into slavery ? So they can make such claim now that it suited their ego ? Hmmm

That president of Liberia he claimed to be ibo was NEVER an ibo, its another big lie.
Those shouting hurray at this post are the gullible ones that can easily be hoodwinked by crafty liers of ibo descent.

BuddahMonk:
That's none of our businesses, Biafra is by choice not by coercion.

There are more hausas in igboland than Igbos in Huasaland, don't tell me more Igbos in North because Igboland and Northern Nigeria are different thing.

Most hausas in Igboland are beggars, foodstuff sellers, refuse dump removers etc

Do you have any brain or is it turned upside down ?

kernel501:
They feel hated only in Nigeria, mention another place they feel same.
It is by force to be in a union?
We are together, that's why we gave Buhari 5%.

Ghana, South Africa, Indonesia, Malaysia, China, Thailand, etc.