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GAZZUZZ:
get the quote, buy the parts, pay labour. My job would be much easier if every customer could do that.

Gazuzz is very right. That is the best thing to do. Don't forget, he is talking as an experienced auto engineer. Do what he said and be happy.

IcePrincezzz:
So what exactly is your point?

The Devil ain't Lucifer?



#teamlanicky!

Yes. No force is opposing God. That is a belief in paganism.

HOW THE "MORNING STAR" BECAME "LUCIFER."

Throughout the lifetime of the Master Jesus the Christ, there was nothing in existence as our present Judeo-Christian Bible. Indeed, the Christian Bible came into existence some 400 years after the death of Jesus Christ. This post-Jesus first Christian Bible was a compendium of carefully selected texts that Bishop Eusebius Pampilius cobbled together for the use of the new religion of the Roman Empire under the strict supervision of the sun worshipping emperor Constantine the Great at the Nicaean Council of 325 CE. About six decades later, in 382 CE to be precise, Pope Damasus deemed it expedient to have St. Jerome do a "complete restructuring" and revision so as to correct the litany of errors and grave contradictions found in the Constantinian/Nicaean Bible. That early 5th century version of Jerome's Roman Catholic Bible is called the "Vulgate Bible."

For the work at hand, St. Jerome heavily relied on the old Greek Septuagint. In translating the text in Isaiah 14 : 12 - 14, Jerome translated the Greek word "Phosphorus" [Φωσφόρος Phōsphoros], which literally means the "Light-Bringer" — "the Morning Star," or "the planet Venus in its morning appearance" -- to its Latin correspondent, "lucem ferre" or "Lucifer," which equally means "light bringer" or "bringer of dawn" or Venus.

It is pertinent to note here that it is only in the Vulgate and the King James Version of the Judeo-Christian Bible do we have the "morning star" in Isaiah 14: 12-14 being translated as Lucifer. It is also important to further note that in all versions of our modern and revised Bibles, including the KJV, the authorised revisioners have found it useful and more appropriate to translate the Vulgate Lucifer to mean the "morning star," "the light of day," "mazzaroth" or "the signs of the Zodiac," "the dawn" and "the morning star" as per 2 Peter 1:19; Job 11:17; Job 38:32 and Psalms 110:3 and Revelation 2: 28 respectively. Very interestingly, we observe that in Revelation 22: 16 where the Vulgate refers to Jesus Christ as "Lucifer," the current Bibles translate this as "the bright morning star."

Everything considered, there is nowhere in the above texts where "Lucifer" is remotely referred to as "a fallen angel" or Satan. One, therefore, finds it rather baffling the attempt to contort and distort the entry in Isaiah 14: 12-14 of the Bible, which is essentially a reworked, judaised, and christianised version of the older Egyptian, Babylonian and Canaanitish mythos woven around the planet Venus, all so that "Lucifer, son of the morning," as per old King James Version, or "Day Star" and "Morning Star" "son of dawn," may be justifiably satanised and diabolised.

LUCIFER [VENUS] IS NEITHER SATAN NOR EVIL

When one dares to do a little bit of critical thinking, one cannot fail to see how ludicrous and twisted we Christians have been in accepting and believing the obviously unfounded religious dogma that the planet Venus that appears to us every morning as the "morning star" and which the revisioners have translated as Lucifer in the Vulgate and old KJV Bibles, is the Lord of Evil and an equal and opposing counter force to Good and God on earth. As we noted earlier, the Latin term "lucem ferre" or "Lucifer," which means "light bringer" or "bringer of dawn" was first introduced by St. Jerome in his translation of the old Greek Septuagint into the Vulgate Bible.

The majority of people who believe the crooked superstition that Lucifer is Satan are Christians who are ignorant of the eclectic and syncretic mix and the pagan astromythological origins of some of the cardinal tenets of the Christian religion. As such, they have inveighed with indignation against the Roman Catholic liturgy which promotes Jesus Christ as a "son of Lucifer;" and the reason they see this liturgy as highly blasphemous is because, according to them, Lucifer is the "dragon," "old serpent," "Devil" and "Satan" referred to in Revelation 12: 7 - 9. The said passage reads:

"And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found anymore in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

I dare to state most emphatically that it is a grave and unpardonable error of judgment for anyone, regardless of his or her sacerdotal pretensions, to equate or hold Lucifer, or the planet Venus, up as the epitome of evil and the personification of Satan or think of it as representing the "old serpent," called the "Devil," referred to in the above text. This error and misrepresentation arises, in part, as a result of the of the unwillingness to accept the fact that our monumental Christianity borrowed vastly from the mythicism and astromythological lores of annihilated paganism. It is just about time we Christians are made to understand that it is the recondite materials from the womb of the pagan mysteries that were used to flesh up, strengthen and cloth many of the ritualisms, religious ceremonies, precepts and doctrines of Christianity. Indeed, fact of the matter is that Christianity owes much to arcane paganism and it is only in the womb of the Mystery Traditions and the astromythology of ancient pagandom can we discover the true meanings of myriad of the religious symbols that populate the Old and New Testaments of our Bible.

Now, John the Divine may have authored the apocryphal tale of a "war in heaven" in which a serpentine Satan and the "dragon" battled the angels of light led by angel Michael. He may have had the trance where he "saw" the "great dragon," that "old serpent" been "cast from heaven." But there is nothing new nor original about this vision which John supposedly wrote down "toward the end of the reign of the emperor Dominican [81 - 96 CE]" because the mythic story of the perennial war in the theatre of heaven between the Sun-God and his angels of Light versus the Lord of Darkness and his legion of devils, an imagined "war" that eventually culminating in the defeat of the latter, was in vogue for more than five thousand years before John had his vision at Patmos.

In ancient Egyptian mythology, for example, there is related the story of "Sata," the evil and destructive Great Serpent God called Seth-Apophis. He was said to be the twin brother of the Sun-God, Osiris-Horus or Amen-Ra, representing Light. According to this mythos, these two brothers were daily and perpetually at war in heaven. When the Glorious Sun rises in the morning and darkness disappears, it was mythicised that the Sun-king, Osiris - Horus, and his luminous angels of Light have triumphed over and cast out of heaven the Great Serpent called Sata or Seth-Apophis. However, when the sun sets on the western horizon in the evening, this happening was mythologically interpreted as the Lord of Darkness and his legion of evil overcoming and devouring the Sun-God and his messengers, an event reasoned to be the cause darkness overtakes the earth.

Furthermore, the Egyptian mythos equally related how Seth-Apophis chased the pregnant Goddess Isis-Meri in order to devour her son, the Sun-God Osiris-Horus, who was to bring illumination to the world. There cannot be any doubt that it is this Egyptian mythos, which was in circulation for more than five thousand years before the advent of Christianity, that got ingeniously Christianised by whoever wrote the Book of Revelation. The christianisation process had the Egyptian "Sata" mutating into the Christian "Satan" and the Egyptian evil Serpent God, "Seth-Apophis," got presented as the Christian "old serpent" and "Devil."

The apparently perennial struggle between the forces of Good/Light and Evil/Darkness runs a common theme in the major religions of the world. In the Zoroastrian religion which is some six hundred years older than Christianity, this mythic war between the Persian God of Light, Ahura-Mazda, and his twin brother, the Great Serpent Ahriman, is again dramatised. In this version, Ahura-Mazda or Ormuzd battles the evil and serpentine creature and triumphs, having the rebellious devil expelled from heaven in the form of a lightning bolt.

At this point, we want to authoritatively assert that there is nowhere in all the older renditions of this mythos of a "war in heaven," which Christianity borrowed wholesale from both Egyptian and Persian religions, is Lucifer or the planet Venus mentioned as representing Satan or the Lord of Darkness. There cannot have been any such mention or linkage, in any event, as Lucifer, the "light bringer" or "light bearer," has absolutely nought to do with evil and its darkness; but has everything to do with illumination - physical, intellectual and spiritual. It is important we seriously note that Church Fathers such as Origen, Tertullian, Ambrose, Jerome and Augustine of Hippo were intimately familiar with the above Revelation 12: 7-9 passage and despite the fact that they wrote profusely on the subject of evil and Satan, I am not aware of any of their writings where they either directly or obliquely linked Lucifer or the morning star with the great serpent, dragon, devil, evil or Satan. They could not and did not because they knew Lucifer, Venus, was not Satan or the devil!

HOW THE "MORNING STAR" BECAME "LUCIFER."

Throughout the lifetime of the Master Jesus the Christ, there was nothing in existence as our present Judeo-Christian Bible. Indeed, the Christian Bible came into existence some 400 years after the death of Jesus Christ. This post-Jesus first Christian Bible was a compendium of carefully selected texts that Bishop Eusebius Pampilius cobbled together for the use of the new religion of the Roman Empire under the strict supervision of the sun worshipping emperor Constantine the Great at the Nicaean Council of 325 CE. About six decades later, in 382 CE to be precise, Pope Damasus deemed it expedient to have St. Jerome do a "complete restructuring" and revision so as to correct the litany of errors and grave contradictions found in the Constantinian/Nicaean Bible. That early 5th century version of Jerome's Roman Catholic Bible is called the "Vulgate Bible."

For the work at hand, St. Jerome heavily relied on the old Greek Septuagint. In translating the text in Isaiah 14 : 12 - 14, Jerome translated the Greek word "Phosphorus" [Φωσφόρος Phōsphoros], which literally means the "Light-Bringer" — "the Morning Star," or "the planet Venus in its morning appearance" -- to its Latin correspondent, "lucem ferre" or "Lucifer," which equally means "light bringer" or "bringer of dawn" or Venus.

It is pertinent to note here that it is only in the Vulgate and the King James Version of the Judeo-Christian Bible do we have the "morning star" in Isaiah 14: 12-14 being translated as Lucifer. It is also important to further note that in all versions of our modern and revised Bibles, including the KJV, the authorised revisioners have found it useful and more appropriate to translate the Vulgate Lucifer to mean the "morning star," "the light of day," "mazzaroth" or "the signs of the Zodiac," "the dawn" and "the morning star" as per 2 Peter 1:19; Job 11:17; Job 38:32 and Psalms 110:3 and Revelation 2: 28 respectively. Very interestingly, we observe that in Revelation 22: 16 where the Vulgate refers to Jesus Christ as "Lucifer," the current Bibles translate this as "the bright morning star."

Everything considered, there is nowhere in the above texts where "Lucifer" is remotely referred to as "a fallen angel" or Satan. One, therefore, finds it rather baffling the attempt to contort and distort the entry in Isaiah 14: 12-14 of the Bible, which is essentially a reworked, judaised, and christianised version of the older Egyptian, Babylonian and Canaanitish mythos woven around the planet Venus, all so that "Lucifer, son of the morning," as per old King James Version, or "Day Star" and "Morning Star" "son of dawn," may be justifiably satanised and diabolised.

LUCIFER [VENUS] IS NEITHER SATAN NOR EVIL

When one dares to do a little bit of critical thinking, one cannot fail to see how ludicrous and twisted we Christians have been in accepting and believing the obviously unfounded religious dogma that the planet Venus that appears to us every morning as the "morning star" and which the revisioners have translated as Lucifer in the Vulgate and old KJV Bibles, is the Lord of Evil and an equal and opposing counter force to Good and God on earth. As we noted earlier, the Latin term "lucem ferre" or "Lucifer," which means "light bringer" or "bringer of dawn" was first introduced by St. Jerome in his translation of the old Greek Septuagint into the Vulgate Bible.

The majority of people who believe the crooked superstition that Lucifer is Satan are Christians who are ignorant of the eclectic and syncretic mix and the pagan astromythological origins of some of the cardinal tenets of the Christian religion. As such, they have inveighed with indignation against the Roman Catholic liturgy which promotes Jesus Christ as a "son of Lucifer;" and the reason they see this liturgy as highly blasphemous is because, according to them, Lucifer is the "dragon," "old serpent," "Devil" and "Satan" referred to in Revelation 12: 7 - 9. The said passage reads:

"And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found anymore in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

I dare to state most emphatically that it is a grave and unpardonable error of judgment for anyone, regardless of his or her sacerdotal pretensions, to equate or hold Lucifer, or the planet Venus, up as the epitome of evil and the personification of Satan or think of it as representing the "old serpent," called the "Devil," referred to in the above text. This error and misrepresentation arises, in part, as a result of the of the unwillingness to accept the fact that our monumental Christianity borrowed vastly from the mythicism and astromythological lores of annihilated paganism. It is just about time we Christians are made to understand that it is the recondite materials from the womb of the pagan mysteries that were used to flesh up, strengthen and cloth many of the ritualisms, religious ceremonies, precepts and doctrines of Christianity. Indeed, fact of the matter is that Christianity owes much to arcane paganism and it is only in the womb of the Mystery Traditions and the astromythology of ancient pagandom can we discover the true meanings of myriad of the religious symbols that populate the Old and New Testaments of our Bible.

Now, John the Divine may have authored the apocryphal tale of a "war in heaven" in which a serpentine Satan and the "dragon" battled the angels of light led by angel Michael. He may have had the trance where he "saw" the "great dragon," that "old serpent" been "cast from heaven." But there is nothing new nor original about this vision which John supposedly wrote down "toward the end of the reign of the emperor Dominican [81 - 96 CE]" because the mythic story of the perennial war in the theatre of heaven between the Sun-God and his angels of Light versus the Lord of Darkness and his legion of devils, an imagined "war" that eventually culminating in the defeat of the latter, was in vogue for more than five thousand years before John had his vision at Patmos.

In ancient Egyptian mythology, for example, there is related the story of "Sata," the evil and destructive Great Serpent God called Seth-Apophis. He was said to be the twin brother of the Sun-God, Osiris-Horus or Amen-Ra, representing Light. According to this mythos, these two brothers were daily and perpetually at war in heaven. When the Glorious Sun rises in the morning and darkness disappears, it was mythicised that the Sun-king, Osiris - Horus, and his luminous angels of Light have triumphed over and cast out of heaven the Great Serpent called Sata or Seth-Apophis. However, when the sun sets on the western horizon in the evening, this happening was mythologically interpreted as the Lord of Darkness and his legion of evil overcoming and devouring the Sun-God and his messengers, an event reasoned to be the cause darkness overtakes the earth.

Furthermore, the Egyptian mythos equally related how Seth-Apophis chased the pregnant Goddess Isis-Meri in order to devour her son, the Sun-God Osiris-Horus, who was to bring illumination to the world. There cannot be any doubt that it is this Egyptian mythos, which was in circulation for more than five thousand years before the advent of Christianity, that got ingeniously Christianised by whoever wrote the Book of Revelation. The christianisation process had the Egyptian "Sata" mutating into the Christian "Satan" and the Egyptian evil Serpent God, "Seth-Apophis," got presented as the Christian "old serpent" and "Devil."

The apparently perennial struggle between the forces of Good/Light and Evil/Darkness runs a common theme in the major religions of the world. In the Zoroastrian religion which is some six hundred years older than Christianity, this mythic war between the Persian God of Light, Ahura-Mazda, and his twin brother, the Great Serpent Ahriman, is again dramatised. In this version, Ahura-Mazda or Ormuzd battles the evil and serpentine creature and triumphs, having the rebellious devil expelled from heaven in the form of a lightning bolt.

At this point, we want to authoritatively assert that there is nowhere in all the older renditions of this mythos of a "war in heaven," which Christianity borrowed wholesale from both Egyptian and Persian religions, is Lucifer or the planet Venus mentioned as representing Satan or the Lord of Darkness. There cannot have been any such mention or linkage, in any event, as Lucifer, the "light bringer" or "light bearer," has absolutely nought to do with evil and its darkness; but has everything to do with illumination - physical, intellectual and spiritual. It is important we seriously note that Church Fathers such as Origen, Tertullian, Ambrose, Jerome and Augustine of Hippo were intimately familiar with the above Revelation 12: 7-9 passage and despite the fact that they wrote profusely on the subject of evil and Satan, I am not aware of any of their writings where they either directly or obliquely linked Lucifer or the morning star with the great serpent, dragon, devil, evil or Satan. They could not and did not because they knew Lucifer, Venus, was not Satan or the devil!

EColeJnr:
Hehehe..

It's like you are the introverted type who hardly explore the outside world..

I've been in Kano for over seven years now (I'll soon be leaving to Benin City )... And I can tell you the only conservative areas are the areas where a large chunk of the inhabitants are Hausas..

Areas with foreigners like Naszarawa GRA.. are free.. lots of clubs and parties .. Chinese restaurants where pork is eaten freely..

Hmmmm.. you nor too flex my brother

Your are correct. I lived in Tauroni, part of nasarawa gra, I usually go to civic centre every night to enjoy.

xtophy:
Android is for d street, iphone is for the jinxed

Iphone is a hardware and android is an OS. You can say iphone is for the jinx and Samsung Galaxy Note 5 or S7 is for the street. But who will ever take you serious? Have you used an s7? Or a note 5?

aisammy4:
I think we should do more research on this issue of Buhari's certificate this before making comments.

Im not a lawyer, but i heard that anybody with 10 years of experience in the public sector can contest for election. On the other hand, President Buhari pass through a military school. Do you think if Buhari his not educated, he can become a military President to rule NIGERIA just like that? I even read Buhari also trained at US War College. This is a school with an equivalent certificate for masters programme if not higher. So, what are now saying...a graduate or equivalent which President and the People's General "as i call him" Buhari has.

Yes, but how did he get into the civil service? The law states that a minimum of WASC was needed to get admitted into the military, but buhari has non but got admitted through the back door. That makes his military service a nullity.

Faculty14:
U sign a cease fire deal with fg and you go ahead blowing up pipelines when fg starts now u start crying genocide
The Nig armed forces of 2008 is not the same with that of 2016..the have experienced all theatres of warfare.desert,jungle, creeks and so on..if the military should shift its might to the ND region many folks here will cry genocide
I know the are many sympathizers here on Nl
Warn your boys not to put the fg to test..the fg is exercising restrain yet many see it as a sign of weakness
I repeat the military of 2008 is not the military of today
Things have changed!

Keep quiet. Must you commit genocide before you can defeat criminals? Did the American commit genocide before they were able to flush out the Talibans from power? Let the soldiers face the avengers not the innocent citizens and let's see who is more equipped and trained.

shamecurls:
Good Job.


They should be thinking of blowing-up the whole State in a of time.


The people of the Niger Delta will revolt against the Avengers when there is nothing more to cry for. How can a sane and brilliant man be damaging his home because he is at war with a stranger?




More Bombs to your hand. At these pace, The Niger delta will be worst than the North East in 2 years

During the second world war, the Russians blew up thier bridoes and bunt thier barns . That action made the Germans to suffer during the winter and died enmass . So, what nigerdelta avengers are doing is to the detriment of Nigeria.

MadamExcellency:
The case is not different from Saraki's case.

Non declaration, false declaration or whatever resemblance has been ruled by the court as a criminal case hence Buhari is facing a criminal charge of false declaration of academic qualifications.

The first Buhari lost his position as Speaker of HOR because of this same crime and we are anticipating that Gen Buhari will not only lose his position as President but also his Military pension and time of service.

What a tragedy.

Buhari and forgery are like 5&6. This is another Toronto

Sunmolar:
I prefer someone without certificate who understand the issue of governance than someone who has certificate who doesn't know or care about good governance.
mind you it's all about been effective

But it is not what u prefer that matters but what the constitution says.

Montaque:
The present case on this issue is noot a criminal trial, just a civil trial fr declaration on whether or not he is qualified as per certificate. ACJA deals only wit criminal actions

Are forgery and perjury not criminal? Don't forgethink, he sworn to an oath that the certificate he submitted was authentic.

akinsmyk:
we're the same on this. Like you stole my story. Mine is just a bit complex.

Can't count the no of times she had broken up coz of quarrels yet came back begging all times.

She say lotta tinz too which made me scared of ma future with her. She's got anger problems, I don't wanna masked with emotions. This is a lady I spend on even more than ma family members.

When we quarrels, she says there is no big deal in what I'v done and that she'll pay me back all I'v done in multiple folds. Its always hurting and funny when sh3 says this though she make up later that she said all that coz of anger.

No matter how angry I am, I watch what I say but she call me different unprintable names. Says she wished she had a gun and might shoot me for pissing her off.

The day she said that, I had began to doubt ma marriage to her. I love ma life

Run, run, I say ruuuuuuuuuun!!!!!

tall2ce:
nobody said she is guilty. The matter is still pending in court. do you read instructions before you start writing exams at all? coz she is still been tried in court and can't leave UK

When has accusation become conviction? Do you still reasons with your head at all? Was Kashamu not tried in the UK? Was he found guilty? You have taken leave of your senses.

soulpeppersoup:
Who says that, do you know how much off shore workers take home. We are not even talking about her husband's wealth. Moreso, do you think she had no investment that increased her earning capacity all those years of working outside Jonathan's government?
Is time we change of mentality of people who has money and are privileged to serve the nation.
If you believe they stole while in office, why no prosecute them properly than inciting the citizenry against them to score cheap popularity.

Don't mind the mofos. An executive director of a bank can buy all those things she has without any hassle. Those poor rats don't know how an executive director earn in Shell. Contract staff in she'll who have worked for that long can even buy those jewelry. Is not only now that a dollar is 300 naira? Remember most of those jewelry were bought when a dollar was around 50 naira. Tell Nigerians to wake up from slumber . Poverty is really a huge disease.

kITATITA:
I didn't see anything from her CV to earn her $18 million house and $2 million jewelry. Just playing towards cancer pity.

As a banker ,I can tell you an executive director in a bank can buy all that without hassle let alone executive director in shell. What do you mean? For someone who has been a minister for so many years under various government, you are questioning her over a jewelry of 2m dollars. What an insult. The oil well fraudulently givend to danjuma etal should be investigated first before you come to this woman. You people haven't seen anything. It is only in nigeria that the real owner of wealth are tagged as thieves while the real thieves are allowed to enjoy thier money lavishly. Nonsense .

DEAFandDUMB:
Wow!... This is getting interesting... What could be the reasons why many successive administrations has refuse to embrace true federalism since from all indication its the fastest and a sure route to making Nigeria great again... Are they afraid that the centre might fall and Abuja and Lagos be deserted?

Greed and laziness of the northerners who have been in power for a period of eons now. They believe the oil in the nigerdelta belongs to them,they must dry it up before they allow for true federalism

I can categorically tell you those guys are not lying. It almost happened to me in year 2008. A young girl in jss3 in Igomode secondary school ota came to my house around 10 in the night and was asking me to come and make love to her. I was shocked because,1, I never knew Wether it was a set up or not , 2, the vigilantee men were parading the street that night and I suspected they might have seen her as at the time she came into the compound and may come and ask after her. So, out of fear I couldn't do anything to her. But in three weeks time, the same girl ran to another man in sango and was living with him. She spent almost three weeks with him before her whereabout was discovered and the man was subsequently arrested. And her father ,being a police man told me that the man is finished and I was like ,thank God I be fear fear man ooooo. This little girl would have put me in trouble. Some so called minors are nothing but imps. We better amend the constitution to handle themail as well.

amtaken:
He was probably tortured to death.

He told some of them the whereabout of the money after collecting it , he was poisoned. Don't u read about a police corporal who killed his boss after withdrawing 300k from his account with the debit card he entrusted to him when the boss fell sick?

Goke7:
This is actually the purpose of all the bombings, it is political and not about the issues of federalism or what have you, reason they called themselves the avengers, they actually avenging the loss and failure of their son GEJ. Anybody who is thinking they are actually serious about their demands on paper is just ignorant. This is a political war to pay PMB back and we know it but how far they will succeed is only a matter of time.

They will succeed in jesus name. Insha Allahu, victory is guaranteed.

asha80:
are you seriously comparing fg and lasg govt ? FG allocated 20bn to region and you are comparing it to lasg that allocates 100bn to a bridge..is it the FG that dictates to a state what it does with its money?
some of you emotional guys dont learn..the ss or niger delta want to go it alone..let them face their issue alone..forget the past indeed when those ijaw guys occupied my uncles abandoned property and up till now refused to leave after condescendingly saying we cant do anything about it and you want people that experienced that sort of thing to just join up? Everyone should mind his business so that is anything goes wrong or does not pan out as planned all man go carry im cross.

No ,my brother. We must forget the past and get United against our common enemy, which is the north. They made our fathers to believe you ibon are our enemies, but now we are wiser . We need unity to be able to face them in the battle field.

This is a sucklingcan

Nicepoker:
who need biafra by the way. Biafra on its own. Niger delta on its own.

Let us forger the past and come together to form a formidable force that can take on the this evil state head on. IPOB and NDA need to work together. When we become victorious, we may not have the same country. We may have Biafra and The nigerdelta Republic. But during the struggle, we need unity and we will remain allies in the future.

koladebrainiac:
When they are done blowing oil. the little money they have, they wont have anything again.
If only they can think.

We can drill and sell our oil without the use of your pipelines. Your pipeline which you use to steal our oil are what are being blown by the avengers avenging for all of us. Without your pipes we can sell our oil. Leave us alone. #enoughisenough

princemillla:
Am very sure Niger delta leaders are watching their wards destroying a nation source of income but would rather keep quiet on it. but when FG play back on them, it will turn out to be witch hunt or whatever name that suits them.

FG self dey Bleep up self. You claim cease fire, but they ain't ceasing any fire along, why not treat them as terrorist they RE.
No group should be capable of holding a nation at ransom.

Forget the noise coming from the west they never meant well for this country

Nation's source of income? Can you hear yourself? Was groundnut regardEd as nation source of wealth ? Or it was northern region's wealth? The use of force cannot solve the problem now. This is because the niger deltans are as armed as the northern killers you called Nigeria army,navy and airforce. How many yoruba, ibo or niger delta people are there in the military compared to the number of northerners? The only solution now is truth. Let's tell ourselves the truth and this agitation will fizzle out naturally. Resources control, and the payment of 50% tax to the centre is the only solution. Think and get back

Tinubu is not fighting buhari the same way Tompolo doesn't know avengers. Who una dey deceive?

QuotaSystem:
Well said. It burns their soul to see the West and the North in partnership.

Lagos' investment in Kebbi State and Dangote's refinery in Lagos nearly drove some of them mad .

Long live Tinubu
Long live PMB
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Dangote will import crude from our Republic to run that refinery

Image123:
The military is not out, they're still there in the waterways. Here's a sensitive issue and listening government. People like you were saying military cannot go there etc. They went and people started lamenting, FG ordered 2week cease fire. What sane government will not send its military after criminals and terrorists?

What effect has the military presence created? Did it stop boys from destroying the pipelines? Was any militant killed? How many soldiers lost thier lives in the sea? Our soldiers are spineless. Only good at harassing unarmed civilians. When it comes to beating up innocent unarmed civilians, they won't complain of inadequate weapons. Mtcheeeew

Peacetemi:
Seems like the only way forward right now. But its kinda funny how a militant group held a whole government hostage. Its not good at all! What a country!! SMH

We told you but you guys were shouting a new sheriff in town. Where is the new sherif now? Do you know the numbers of soldiers that died in the sea? What about those who died in the house boat that was destroyed my militants? And how many militants were killed? I can tell you, zero. Use of force can't solve this problem ,only truth can.

babadee1:
There is no such country and there will never be. Don't fool yourself.

There is no country like Nigeria and there will never be. Think I'm lying go and ask Awolowo.

I can see fayose's prediction loading. Now the northerners will know who thier real enemies are.

securi:
Well said Bro. What made it critical is the fact that APC govt knew how divided the country was after election but instead of reconciliation moves, all some were saying was '5% support, wailers,etc and open intimidation of Ppl from the region during elections aided by some APC candidates especially in bayelsa, lopsided appointment, open display of anger and threats against the demands of these guys instead of seeking for solution, cancellation of Maritime University projects, bias handling of some national issues like fulani cattle rearers,senseless donation of huge resources to a US university by one of the beneficiaries of ND Oil when he doesn't have any educational support in any form in ND where he is milking the people dry.All are injustice that aggravated this.Am against violence, but as a yorubaman that served and has been residing in ND for 16yrs support their demand for true federalism.let every state control her resources while an agreed amount is contributed to Fed Govt. If we are sincere, we all know that the present arrangement support indolence and that is why state Govs can't think outside the box to generate resources and pay workers, they all came in with the mindset that federal allocation is there and no need for extra effort. Let's put sentiment apart, this govt saw this coming right before election but ignored this. I personally have been predicting this since 5yrs ago, and the signs were quite obvious just that we Nigerians sometime just want to see what we believe and not what is really on ground. I pray the violence end so that sincere dialogue can start for situation not to get too bad.

Well said brother. But so many people don't want to reason like you. They believe the people can be subdued using the military and the oppression will continue till the oil finally dries up. I don't know why poeple are this wicked