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Since no one has being able to rebuke my claim sensibly, then I hereby proclaim the old knowledge that man is created by God irrelevant and irrational, and that the only logical entity that could have created man is the devil

Jokay07:
this is the most foolish and the most stupid post I have ever run across on Nairaland.

And you are the s*tupidiest person that has ever replied to a post on nairaland

Jokay07:
You have been trying hard and sweating so serious in order to vindicate your delusionary-claim and to make it seems perfect to the gullible and shallow-minded men your ur calibre, hw dare you throw up a belief that is totally off the track which is against the logic and principle of common sense.

Waoh!!! You must be really angry(like I care, screw you), my claims is not for the gullible neither is it for the shallow minded, but for people with common sense (which you definitely lack), and talking about logic i, I came up with my argument using logic(you have just refused to use your brain)

Jokay07:
Why are you ignorantly invoking the wrath of God on your life due to your ignorance

Am not ignorance of the existence of God, God is really fighting for his existence in my post

Jokay07:
which has emersed you understing in the pool of stupidity. What happened after the creation. Everything was perfect,

Just listen to your self, how can what is created perfect imperfect except it was never perfect to say

Jokay07:
the nowadays wild animals were living with Adam nd Eve in the Garden. Everything was ok until the serpent came and deceived Eve to go against the instruction Of God.

STORY STORY STORYYYYYYYYYY:
If our first parents were created perfect then there would br no way they would have disobeyed their creator, they disobeyed their so called creator not because of the devil but because they were imperfect

Jokay07:
Sin is a chain reaction, the sin commited by the first men keep linking our blood down to the present generation.

Let's call sin a computer virus, let call man a computer programme. For a computer programme to be called "perfect" it must be foolproof and virus proof, I stand by my word that if man was throughly created perfect then there is no way the virus(sin) would have gotten into the programme(man)

Jokay07:
Have you not heard when God said let us create man in our own image. The first creation were perfect bcus God created them in his own image and God is perfect.

You just shot yourself in the foot here.
You claim god's image is perfection and man was created in this image, then man is perfect... If man's prefection cam be corrupted... Then God's perfection can be corrupted thereby making God not perfect.

Jokay07:
Young man, it's never too late, i only shared with you the little knowledge i knw abt bible. Marry ur Genesis v.well. Thanx

Old man its not too late for you to start using you head, you have still go like 10, 20 years on earth am begging you to spend it using you brain, tank you

If an entity embodies the beginning and the end (e.g God the beginning and the end) by implication our destiny as mortals can't be changed

I thought the church belonged to the members, you christians should open you eyes oooo

DoctorAshley:
i have met church-going people who do not believe in teaching of trinity even though it is taught in their various churches.so i want to hear ur opinion abt this controversial belief .

re u a real doctor

Smallville10:
YOUR WELCOME. BUT DONT FORGET. YOU DONT EXIST

and you re a W*anker

Smallville10:
WELL i just did and what i read was a highly concentrated level of foolish'mess'(nothing personal ok?). So i will just pretend you never existed.

you hurt me (stupid w*anker)

Smallville10:
your own ignorance has gone beyond human understanding

you first read my thread before talking about ignorance (dare to doubt)

steadyguy:
Hello guys,

I was wondering about this today! If Adam had used his sense and refuse to follow Eve's advice of eat that forbidden fruit, what would this world be like?

there would be no Nairaland

Even if God existed he didn't create man

www.nairaland.com/1933298/god-didnt-create-man

Newtononline:
Adam age started counting when he sinned. He was ageless before he sinned. D day he sinned, he became a day old

the question is how could a day old boy sin

ice234:
The logic is very flawed here...
Create means to bring to life that which was not in existence. Man made phone but never created phone.

God created man to be perfect like him, but then gave us a mind of our own. He gave us the ability to choose between the good and the bad, but man chose bad and so became inperfect.

what do you mean by to make and to create.

And also there no way what is created perfect can be imperfect, just like white can't black

darnley16:
well maybe it is, I mean. Have you gotten any better suggestions?

to be frank, I haven't

Somebody else's son won't kill another person's father

Blackfire:
i ve seen one man who is perfect... to him i adore, no matter my belief and search

if you mean jesus then even he wasn't even perfect when he was a man

darnley16:
@ op, you seem curious. therefore I'll help you out,,, Have you ever heard of , Pre-Adamic Men?

the pre-Adamic man is only an hypothesis

tobechi20:
Jesus’ key thoughts on money are presented in the Sermon on the Mount. In ( Matt 6:19-24 ), He says to invest in the life to come. We do this through liberal giving – not a set church-tax of ten percent of our income, but open-heartedness. In this Scripture passage, between the initial thought of laying up treasures in heaven and the truth that we cannot serve both God and money, are verses 22 and 23 which talk about the eye being “the lamp of the body.” The verses seem to make little sense, in the context of money, until it is appreciated that, in Jewish thought, to have an “evil eye” is to be stingy and mean-spirited, while to have a “good eye” is to be generous.

I think this is what you should

salinakrogh:
God is perfect. However, man is not. Though God is perfect. God can create anything God wants to, including man.duh...

so you are saying God can give what he doesn't have

Before I start to give my reasons, my premises is that : you can't give what you don't have.

God:
We all gone to church and we have all been told of how God is perfect, and his perfection in everything, e.g

1. God is immortal
2. God cannot sin
3. God doesn't make mistakes e.t.c

Man:
We all don't really need anybody to tell us man is imperfect

1. Man is not immortal
2. Man can sin
3. Man makes mistakes

Man has created so many thing, e.g phones, computers e.t.c none of this things is perfect because man is imperfect and it isn't possible to give what you don't have(man is not perfect), man doesn't have perfection in him and so he can't give perfection, thereby everything he make, does, is imperfect because man is imperfect.

God is perfect and he is said to create man which is imperfect, God doesn't have imperfection so there is no way he could have given what he doesn't have(God is not imperfect) : so it necessarily applies by implication God didn't create man but man was created by the devil which is imperfect in all form (since the true nature of man is imperfection)

While their mates are busy killing ram and rams they are busy killing humans, well something must be killed sha

KingEbukasBlog:
GO AND LIVE A REAL LIFE MR MAN .... Good day !

seriously speaking, you are the one who should live a real life

MrAnony1:
Doing what you ought not to do does not contradict the fact that you ought not to do it.

MrAnony1:
Why do good? Because good is what we were
created to do. It is the purpose for which we
were designed (see Ephesians 2:10)

Just re-read what you have wrote so far and you will see what am saying

MrAnony1:
I am curious to know exactly what you mean by suggesting that I should be moral to morality. You seem to think it is so important to the extent that I should be ashamed because "my morality is not to morality". Please explain what you mean by the phrase.

You are not moral because you think it right, or because you empathise on the other person's feelings, you are moral because your story book says you should be, just like the muslim's story book tells them to kill those that doesn't agree with them, if your story book had told you so, who know how many head you would have taken

MrAnony1:
I don't see how the fallacy of a single cause applies to what you quoted. Perhaps you can explain exactly how it does.

Fallacy of the single cause (causal
oversimplification[35]) – it is assumed that there
is one, simple cause of an outcome

The valet shouldn't have carried a car he can't drive

Trailblazer1: I'm glad to announce to the whole world that JESUS LIVES. Because I have a witness in my heart that He lives.

you have a witness in your heart of the existence of jesus? You have real mental problems

MrAnony1: Evil by definition is that which we ought not to do. Perhaps you can explain to me how it is logically coherent for something to be supposed to do what it isn't supposed to do.

You contradict yourself mr man, when you say evil is what we ought not to do and we are created to do good, and still yet we do evil which we ought not do

MrAnony1: Why do good? Because good is what we were
created to do. It is the purpose for which we
were designed (see Ephesians 2:10)

MrAnony1: You will need to actually make a proper argument as to why not beating a child because of the reasons you listed is better than not beating a child because it goes against the nature of Christ.

you really don't give a s*hit about how the child feels, the only thing you want to do is serve, and you re here talking about morality, you should be ashamed. Because your morality is to your master and not to morality

MrAnony1: He wouldn't be God if He wasn't wise, an unwise being cannot possibly be God. God is necessarily wise.

you are making the Fallacy of the single cause , beacause the flying spaghetti monster is also necessarily wise

I even wanted to open a thread on this issue, my problem with MTN is that they should have atleast notified the customers, well am ported to etisalat now sha:
1. No stupid messages
2. I can actually check my remaining data
3. Very fast network like 500kb per seconds

If PDP supporters refuse to say amen, then I say AMEN on their behalf

Rich yoruba cultural heritage and legacy

Kayceo2010: PHOTOSHOPPED!!! original pics is the Nigerian flag colour...

why would someone print ans post Nigeria flag on the wall

striktlymi: You are getting it very confused.

Having a purpose for something doesn't mean it must fulfill the purpose for which it was created.

the nearest we humans have come to creating things with purposes is creating nonliving things, we give them purposes and they have no free will