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DaddyCoool:
This your write-up is so hypocritically nonsensical it's NOT worth a response. I'd refer you to my previous post (below).

You call yourselves JEHOVAH'S witnesses. How many wars and battles did Jehovah help Israel fight??
Infact the Bible calls Jehovah "a man of war" in more than one place (see below).

As for leaders and commanders of armies that you were yapping about, their job is command which is the most important. They are most important part of the army and arrived at that position through elimination and training. They are very rare and hard to replace which is why they are not unnecessarily put in harm's way.


Petalss, refer him to screenshots below

I am just amazed at how Jehovah fought these wars. Did He do it Himself, or did He use some kind of assistance or an intermediary?

MaxInDHouse:
It's Muslims i can see not your Allah so it the activities of Muslims that will make me see your Allah is real to you people!

I can see the actions of Christians, but I cannot see God directly. Should I then form my judgment of God based on the behaviors of imperfect, fallible human beings who claim to follow Him?

MaxInDHouse:
So how come Muslims are part of those fighting and killing around the world if truly your Allah is real to them?

How come Muslims you say, rather than focusing on what God says Muslims should be doing in the actual sense.

MaxInDHouse:
So if you're not comfortable with it then stop mentioning or quoting me because i will always remind you that your god doesn't worth any respect from me!

Quoting or mentioning you does not automatically mean I am engaging in a debate or argument with you.
Choosing to show selective respect for gods or God is entirely your prerogative.
Even if I intended to express disrespect, it wouldn't require me to use lowercase letters when starting a name. It's generally unconventional and goes against standard writing practices.

MaxInDHouse:
Then are those fighting and killing themselves obeying your god God?

I sincerely hope that the use of lowercase letters in your communication is due to oversight rather than an intentional act meant to mock or insult.

It’s important to clarify that anyone engaging in violence or taking lives is not acting in accordance with God's will. True obedience to God is reflected in acts of love, peace, and respect for life.

DaddyCoool:
Well, Christ himself gave a parable that clarifies this: A rich man kept sending servants and they kept killing them, finally he sent his own son!
So does that make his son a servant??

As for Godhead, God always spoke of Himself as plural - "Come let's make man in our image", "..lest they eat and become immortal like us", etc.

The rich man sent his son. The man and the son makes two different people. The Father is not the Son. The rich man sent his son and not himself.

You assert that God always refers to Himself using plural pronouns. Do you know the meaning of this always? it means he never used singular pronouns

However, here are examples where He uses singular pronouns.
When God spoke in:
Isaiah 44:24
"This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself."

Or Isaiah 45:5
"I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me."

MaxInDHouse:
If your Allah, Muhammad, Qur'an and religion supports fighting and killing your fellow Muslims Christians are forbidden to kill!

Baba you don't need to twist and turn. My God didn't ask any of us to kill.

DaddyCoool:
1. He is God the Son, sent by God the Father. They are all of same "cloth" - Godhead.

2. As for JohnTB, which prophet can be greater than one sent to herald the coming of God?
Here's your statement. Tell me if it makes sense:

"A man stated clearly that he is unfit to untie God's shoe, does not mean another man cannot untie His shoe."

One is eternal God. One is mortal man!

1. Only Jesus is the Son of God, the Son of Man, a Prophet of God, God Himself, a messenger of God, and a servant of God. I still find it difficult to comprehend the concept of the Godhead. As someone who does not believe, could you help clarify what this means?

2. John the Baptist as the greatest prophet is your own personal opinion. However, this perspective seems subjective to me. In my view, Jesus is a greater prophet than John.
It’s important to note that Jesus was also sent by someone.
Who, then, is the one sending all these individuals?
From what I understand, anyone who is sent serves as a messenger, and the one who sends them is the Master.

MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus condemned the act showing you it's wrong!

You're mixing it up here. You asked for us to show where Jesus or any of his disciples used a physical sword. And provided the reference.

You quoted it as if there was nowhere Jesus or his disciples used it.

MrPresident1:
It is a free forum

Okay.
What can you say about the marriage between Prophet Muhammad and Aisha in the light of this topic.

DaddyCoool:
You are fishing. A man clearly says he's unfit to untie a Person's shoes, and you're asking another man 2000 years later what he meant. Wow!

Wow you said.
John the Baptist stated clearly that he is unfit to untie his Shoe, does not mean another person cannot untie is shoe.

However, when Jesus stated clearly that the Father is the only true God. while also identifying himself as the one sent by God. What can you say about this?

"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John 17:3, NKJV)

DaddyCoool:
Ask John the Baptist. He was a great prophet who baptized Christ, yet he said he was NOT fit to untie His shoes

Lol. You suggest I should ask John the Baptist why he claims he's unworthy to untie Jesus' shoes. But which action truly carries more divine significance? Is it baptizing Jesus, the Son of God, God himself or performing a humble act like untying His sandals?

I ask again, can you explain what it means by untying Jesus's shoes?

DaddyCoool:
God the Son. He's part of the Godhead, which is why no prophet is fit to untie His shoes

Untie his Shoes? Should I take this metaphorically or literally?

MaxInDHouse:
So did Jesus commend him for using physical sword against enemies?

I never mentioned that Jesus commended him.

MaxInDHouse:
So did Jesus commend him for using physical sword against enemies?

As long as you can't quote anywhere Jesus or his disciples use physical swords against anyone there is no further case jàre! smiley

I have provided you an evidence where Jesus or any of his disciples explicitly used a physical sword in their teachings or actions.

Did Peter use a physical sword?

DaddyCoool:
Thanks



God, the Son of God

God or the Son of God

MaxInDHouse:
So if Jesus meant physical swords at least there should be one occasion where his disciples will make use of it but instead they were killed with the sword and contrary to your opinion that two swords is ok for eleven to fight they never fought once in the Bible!

Yes, one of Jesus' disciples used a weapon in a specific incident. According to the Gospels, Peter, one of Jesus’ closest disciples, used a sword during the arrest of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. When the soldiers came to arrest Jesus, Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of Malchus, the servant of the high priest (John 18:10). However, Jesus immediately told Peter to put away the sword, saying, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52). Jesus then healed the servant's ear, showing His commitment to peace.

DaddyCoool:
Moslems are WRONG that Christ was just another prophet.
Prophets don't:
1) Forgive sins
2) Say they are one with the father and once you've seen them you've seen the Father
3) Are not foretold 1000's of years b4 they come - as God comming to stay with us, and foretold to be named Emmanuel (God with us)
4) A mighty prophet (John the Baptist) does not say he's not fit to untie another prophet's shoes
5) Do not rise from dead after 3 days
6 Etc

In a nutshell, Jesus is what?

MaxInDHouse:
If you say so my friend if you say so!

Yes my friend

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So there is one similarity all are making claims but as for Jehovah's Witnesses standing out differently i pointed out a single similarity that carries all other religions which leaves Jehovah's Witnesses out completely!

This is still your opinion, not a fact

MaxInDHouse:
People can claim whatever they want but when intellectuals look critically at what they represent they will see clearly.
The only similarity i can think of in all your religions is that your god preaches PEACE but at the same time supports WAR!

In the same manner that you pointed out the differences among the previously mentioned religions, you made your stance clear, just as others have expressed theirs. Whatever claims you all make does not change the fact that they all have something in common (my claim).

However, I find it surprising that you're now acknowledging a single similarity between them, when earlier, you stated that they had no commonalities whatsoever.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy people can draw similarities between two different religions based on their own dubious motives but once two religions are always against themselves it means they have nothing doing together.

In summary, Christianity, Islam, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Pentecostalism represent distinct religious traditions and belief systems. While various Christian denominations, such as Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Pentecostalism, identify themselves as branches of Christian faith, they exhibit differences in doctrine, practices, and interpretations of biblical teachings. Having it in mind that you Jehovah's Witnesses hold the belief that you alone represent the true followers of Christianity. So therefore, all others are totally different religions.

christejames:
There is hunger in the land... Tinubulation is real!





Pentecostalism wants to be the death of Christianity but they will never succeed, thank God for that senior pastor that chased the pulpit Bandit away.

Once they can read some verse from the Bible and speak some incomprehensive ambiguous English they will claim God called them. It's high time the so called CAN together with the govt start assessing these guys to know if they are truly qualified to play with the emotion of the masses, they must be certified in theology, psychology, and even philosophy just like Rwanda does... You won't just wake up because you can read some verse and claim to be a pastor.

My current question is this: Are any of these pastors truly called by God, or do they simply acquire the role through learning, much like how we train to become professionals in any field we choose to pursue? In other words, is being a pastor a divine calling, or is it more of a career path one can choose and develop skills for, similar to any other profession?

MaxInDHouse:
NO is the answer!

Thank you very much for your clear and direct responses.

This essentially means that anyone who draws similarities between these religions is simply mistaken. You mean to say the comparisons are purely subjective and reflect personal opinions, regardless of who is making the claim, whether it is a scholar, theologian, or layperson. Is that not so?

MaxInDHouse:
Is there a similarity between Islam and Ṣàngó worship?

No Sir.
But please answer my question.

MaxInDHouse:
NO!

Excellent.
Is there any similarity between Pentecostalism and Christianity?

MightySparrow:
I agree with you. You are a product of both.

In my own opinion, Christianity is light, Islam is darkness.

Judaism is what?

MaxInDHouse:
NO!

Good.
Is there any similarities between Catholicism and Christianity?

MrPresident1:
Understandeth thou what thou readest?

MrPresident1, while I do not intend to deviate from the main discussion, I have a question that seems closely related to the topic at hand. I believe addressing it could provide further clarity and contribute to the ongoing dialogue. May I proceed?

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity has no resemblance at all with Islam but if you don't know what Christianity really entails you may be easily confused!

Is there any resemblance between Judaism and Christianity?

jydman16:
Bull run about to start it shouldn't come down now abeg

Only traders understand what you're talking about bro.

Kobojunkie:
Why these various interpretations? Where in the book is it stated that interpretations are allowed or to be considered to begin with? Why must I debate these various interpretations rather than simply accept what is written in the book of Jesus Christ and this God of Israel? Of what value or meaning is all of that exercise?

I have come across varying interpretations of certain verses and statements in the Bible, which have led me to reflect on their meanings.

For instance, in one passage, it is clearly stated that Jesus was sent "only to the lost sheep of Israel." This seems quite straightforward, implying His mission was specifically directed to the people of Israel and not to other nations.

However, in another well-known verse, we read, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son." This seems to imply that the term "world" refers to everyone, encompassing all nations and peoples, not just Israel.

This raises an important question: Should we interpret "the world" in this context as the entire world, or could it have a more specific or nuanced meaning?

Note: I’m not attempting to start a debate or argument, but I’m genuinely curious about understanding the meaning from your perspective. How do you reconcile these two verses?