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Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 3:52pm On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
Christian, Muslim, Jewish all worship that same God but all have different Ideology about God .even Hinduism that is a polytheistic religion worships Almighty God (brahma)
Good and fine. I totally agree with you.

In Surah Al-'Ankabut (29:46) "And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, 'We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.'

"This verse acknowledges that the God of the Muslims is the same as the God worshiped by the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians). The Quran emphasizes that although there may be differences in religious practices or revelations, the underlying belief in one God remains the same across these Abrahamic faiths.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 3:38pm On Sep 13, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The true God said Satan is deceiving people so Satan and Demons often appear to people of the world telling them names to brainwash them into disobeying what God said.

The true God has a purpose for which He has arranged pure worship and it's clearly stated in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

Faithful people globally will connect themselves and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

That's what Jesus of Nazareth commissioned in the first century so if any religion is not achieving this then they are not doing the will of God so neither Jesus or Jehovah know them! Matthew 7:15-23
Mr Max, I didn't get the answer convened in your response.

Imagine a mother who gives her two children the same set of instructions on how to prepare a meal. One child follows the instructions carefully and fully understands the process, preparing the meal as intended. The other child misinterprets part of the instructions and ends up preparing the meal differently, perhaps leaving out some ingredients or cooking it in a different way. While the meals they prepare may look or taste different, both children were still following the instructions of the same mother.

If both children were given the same guidance from their mother, does the difference in how they understood and followed it mean they have a different mother, or is it simply a difference in their interpretation of her instruction?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 3:20pm On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
you are right
Kingsempires. A personal question for just you.
Do Christians and Muslims worship the same deity, despite their differing beliefs and practices?"
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 3:07pm On Sep 13, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
There are many demons answering Jesus and God today {2Corinthians 11:14} so if you're just considering the name they call their Gods you may be confused.

What you should carefully note is the command their Gods are giving them if it's in line with what Jesus taught in the Bible.
I understand the fact that Jehovah's witnessess doesn't subscribe to Trinity. However, does that means the Jehovah you call upon and

For instance Jesus' disciples must not raise any weapon against their neighbours {Mark 12:31} neither should they think of killing their fellow believers {John 13:34-35} all these makes no sense to them yet they're calling Jesus claiming he is their God! Matthew 7:21-23

He himself said it's in vain they are doing all those worship because he doesn't even know them! Matthew 15:8-9
I acknowledge that Jehovah's Witnesses do not adhere to the doctrine of the Trinity. However, are you asserting with certainty or merely expressing your opinion that the God they worship, known as Jehovah or Yahweh, is fundamentally different from the God you worship, also referred to as Jehovah? Could you clarify the distinction you see between these two, if any?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m):
MaxInDHouse:
Of course most people think so but truthfully it is not the same Jesus! undecided
Mr Max, can you share more insight into this?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:56am On Sep 13, 2024
AmalaAtiEwedu:
Ok terrorist cool
Ok sir. wink
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:50am On Sep 13, 2024
AmalaAtiEwedu:
Muslims worship an idol called allah.
Okay. But I didn't ask you
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:46am On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
yes
Similarly.
Do you agree that Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same God, the creator of the universe?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:40am On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
yes
Cool.

Even though Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, it doesn't change who Jesus is.

Similarly, Jehovah’s Witnesses’ belief that Jesus is not God does not alter how Catholics understand Jesus.

It is still the same Jesus, can we all agree?

Different groups may have different beliefs, but these beliefs don't change the fundamental identity of Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:28am On Sep 13, 2024
Ojuntana:
An individual representing a group

There is no known language where an individual representing himself alone will use "We" to refer to himself. Your reference to English is totally out of point as I already proved. A sovereign is an embodiment of the state. Anything a sovereign does is as if the state does it. That's why a sovereign can send his country to war and the whole country weay "We are at war" not "The King (or President) is at war
Surah Al-Anbiya (21:25) "And We sent not before you any messenger except that We revealed to him that, 'There is no deity except Me, so worship Me.

In the verse from Surah above, you will notice Allah uses "We" and then follows it with "Me," and not "Us". it is essential to understand that in Arabic, the plural form "We" is often used as a form of respect and majesty. This is known as the "royal we" or "plural of majesty" (pluralis majestatis). It does not imply plurality in terms of actual numbers, but rather emphasizes the greatness and authority of Allah.When Allah uses "We" in this verse, it signifies His majesty and grandeur. However, when referring to Himself as "Me," it brings the focus back to His singularity and oneness in divinity.

The transition from "We" to "Me" highlights the concept of the oneness of Allah, emphasizing that, despite using the majestic plural, Allah is One and alone worthy of worship.Thus, the use of "We" in such verses expresses Allah’s exalted status, while the use of "Me" reaffirms that there is no deity but Him, maintaining the central message of his oneness.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 11:04am On Sep 13, 2024
Steep:
except the meaning of ignorance has changed.
The use of plural "we" instead of "us" shows plurality of persons is more glorious than singular person meaning allah is just a wanna be.
I respectfully disagree, but I'll leave the discussion afterwards.

The use of "We" in the Qur'an is a way to show respect and majesty, not to suggest that Allah is more than one. It's like when a king or queen says "we" to show authority, but they are still just one person. In Islam, Allah is one, and using "We" emphasizes His greatness, not plurality.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 10:33am On Sep 13, 2024
Ojuntana:
This is the fact they fail to understand. Even civil leaders like Presidents and Prime Ministers use "We" sometimes when referring to decisions taken by their government. Even business leaders do. Dangote said: "We worked hard to ensure this refinery dream we had came to fruition"

Who had the refinery dream? Was it not Aliko Dangote? Did anyone plan the idea of refinery with him? Yet he used "We" when referring to the plan to build the refinery. That's because he recognises the joint effort of others in bringing it to fruition. These clowns will tell you Dangote used "We" because he was giving himself respect grin grin
You're still overlooking the fact that an individual can use "we" to convey their own perspective or personal opinions. This use of "we" can reflect a singular person's viewpoint or stance, rather than representing a collective group.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 10:16am On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
am not against you ooo what I meant is that you and this Muslims were doesn't have the same though or thick because All the explanation you are giving them they are still disagreeing which you what explanation can you give them again at the One understand that's why I said you go explain tire grin Shea is left from them smiley
Do you believe that the Jesus you follow as a Christian is the same as the Jesus understood by the Jewish faith?

Additionally, do you think the Jesus you worship is the same as the Jesus recognized by Jehovah's Witnesses?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 9:40am On Sep 13, 2024
Kingsempires:
am not against you ooo what I meant is that you and this Muslims were doesn't have the same though or thick because All the explanation you are giving them they are still disagreeing which you what explanation can you give them again at the One understand that's why I said you go explain tire grin Shea is left from them smiley
This you have written here needs alot of explanation. Did you just call the Muslims were (Mad)?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 8:41am On Sep 13, 2024
Steep:
Allah use of Royal "We" exposes him as one who represent another. The kings use Royal "We" because they represent the people.
A dictionary quote this as 'ignorance.'
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 8:53pm On Sep 12, 2024
TenQ:
I guess you are not educated about the Arab Christians.

Again,
The Name of the Allah of the Arab Christians is YHWH!


Ask any Muslim if any of the 99 names of Allah is YHWH?
The name of the Allah of the Arab Muslims is Allah!
Since you have greater knowledge compared to that of Arab Christians, who am I to challenge your view on what you want them to call God in their indigenous language? I have made an effort to exclude Islamic considerations, but it seems there may be a personal issue you have with the Arabic language itself.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 7:16pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
You claimed. Prove it!!
I give up on your matter.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 7:14pm On Sep 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
I dey watch religion s video well well. There is a Egyptian Christain I use to follow on TikTok he said God is Allah in Arabic language. Most Arab Christain video I use to watch is Allah that they use to call God wink
Thank you for the confirmation.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 7:10pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
1. All these are post-Islam Arab leaders who ruled as Islamic leaders. Their leanings are Islamic in nature just as we have sultan in sokoto today ruling as an islamic leader. You will be better served taking your examples from the pre-Islamic Arabia.

2. There's no context to show that they referred individually to themselves and not their council or Emirate. Like I already told you, the English use it because their royal lines are embodiment of their sovereignty. Is an islamic ruler sovereign? I think not since Allah is the sovereign in an islamic Emirate. You're free to correct me if I'm wrong.

3. No source for your quotes.

4. Try harder!!
It's simple, you have issue with the language. Research for yourself if the Arabic language has the Majestic Pronoun ’We'
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 6:54pm On Sep 12, 2024
Kingsempires:
Arab Christain call God ALLAH
While Arab Christians embrace the use of the Arabic language to refer to God as 'Allah', some Nigerian Christians, like Ten Q, disagree with this practice.

It's essential to recognize that one's dislike or criticism of Islam as a religion should not be conflated with the Arabic language itself. Arabic is a neutral language, a tool for communication, and its use should not be rejected solely because of its association with a particular religion.

In fact, many Arabic-speaking Christians have used the term 'Allah' to refer to God for centuries, highlighting the language's versatility and adaptability across different cultures and faiths.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 6:48pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
Again, you have to show the Arabs using the "majestic plural" as you put it. English and Arabic are not linguistically nor culturally similar so you can't use one to explain the other except you imply it is English translators that introduced the first person plural in describing Allah.
1. Sultan Saladin (Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn al-Ayyūbi) In one of his letters, Sultan Saladin, a notable figure in Islamic and Arab history, used the majestic plural to refer to himself when addressing his officials:"لقد أمرنا بعناية الله ورعايته، أن يُنصر الإسلام، وتبقى راياته مرفوعة"
("We have commanded, by the grace and care of God, that Islam be victorious, and that its banners remain raised high"wink.In this letter, Saladin uses "We" ("نحن"wink to refer to himself, though he is a single person. The use of the majestic plural is a reflection of his authority and the high station he occupies as a leader.

2. King Hussein of Jordan Modern Arab leaders also use this convention. King Hussein of Jordan, in many of his official speeches, used "We" to refer to himself as the head of state. For instance, in one of his speeches, he said:"نحن ملتزمون بتحقيق السلام العادل والشامل في المنطقة"
("We are committed to achieving a just and comprehensive peace in the region"wink.Here, "We" represents King Hussein as the singular speaker but expresses his authority as the sovereign of Jordan.

3. Caliph Harun al-Rashid (Abbasid Caliphate)
Harun al-Rashid, the famous Abbasid caliph, also used the majestic plural in correspondence. One of his letters reads:"لقد أمرنا ببناء هذه المدينة العظيمة، لتكون شاهداً على حضارتنا"
("We have commanded the building of this great city, to stand as a testament to our civilization"wink.In this case, Harun al-Rashid uses "We" to denote his status as a caliph, though the decision and command were made by him alone.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 6:07pm On Sep 12, 2024
TenQ:
Is it true that the name of the Allah of the Muslim Arabs is Allah?

The name of the Allah of the Christian Arab is not Allah but YHWH!

Here you are lost!
Yeah, I am lost.

I'm feeling confused. You mentioned that Arab Christians refer to God as YHWH, but I’ve heard differently from Arab Christians themselves. It seems like there’s a contradiction between what you said and what they believe. I’m not sure who is mistaken here, but I’d like to understand the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 5:17pm On Sep 12, 2024
TenQ:
Is Allah a Spirit? No!
Is Allah a Father? No!
Is Allah Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient? No!

Allah is NOT the God of Abraham, Moses and David thus It's of no wonder that Allah is just as complex like Iblis in description (very simple to describe).
Let us set aside the Islamic perspective, as an Arab Christian, what should I traditionally call God in my language?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 4:46pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
The Qur'an was written in Arabic not English. The use of We in English royalty was to recognise the sovereignty of the English people residing in its royalty. It could also be referred to as "We(England) are not amused".
The fallacy in your argument is drawing equivalence between Arabic personification and English when both are not known to share any common linguistic or cultural bond.
Is there any example of an Arab sovereign referring to itself as We before Allah in the Qur'an?
Same Allah sometimes referred to itself as I when it suited it. As a god that's vehemently sought to establish its monotheistic value, would it not have been better to stick to I instead of We?
The God of the Jews never used plural to refer himself in original Greek and Hebrew. If Allah is same as the Jewish God Yahweh, why did he now go and cause confusion in Arabic?
Wow, just wow. It seems you're a linguistic scholar to determine which languages are permitted to use the Majestic Pronoun. So, the English language can have the Majestic Plural 'We,' but the Arabic language cannot?

When the Queen was talking, she was not referencing the whole of England, she was speaking for herself.

Examples of "We" in the Quran:

"We created the heavens and the earth..." (Quran 25:2)
"We sent Noah to his people..." (Quran 7:59)
"We gave Moses the Book..." (Quran 2:87)

Examples of "I" in the Quran:

"I am Allah, there is no god but Me..." (Quran 20:14)
"I created you from a single soul..." (Quran 39:6)
"I am the One who forgives..." (Quran 7:155)

Thus, Allah uses both "We" and "I" based on the context to express different aspects of His relationship with creation. The use of "We" highlights His majesty and power, while "I" emphasizes a direct, personal connection.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 4:22pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
The Qur'an was written in Arabic not English. The use of We in English royalty was to recognise the sovereignty of the English people residing in its royalty. It could also be referred to as "We(England) are not amused".
The fallacy in your argument is drawing equivalence between Arabic personification and English when both are not known to share any common linguistic or cultural bond.
Is there any example of an Arab sovereign referring to itself as We before Allah in the Qur'an?
Same Allah sometimes referred to itself as I when it suited it. As a god that's vehemently sought to establish its monotheistic value, would it not have been better to stick to I instead of We?
The God of the Jews never used plural to refer himself in original Greek and Hebrew. If Allah is same as the Jewish God Yahweh, why did he now go and cause confusion in Arabic?
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Evil To Take Young Children To Early Morning Mass/church Everyday by Petalss(m): 4:18pm On Sep 12, 2024
StillDtruth:
Woke up this morning and noticed uniformed young children entering their parents car as they left mass.

And i can see that they do this everyday and they are already exhausted as they bottled up their anger and helplessness.

And it is with this spirit they would use to still go to school were they would get another torture and torment .

Why wouldn't there be fights in school as they pass on their pain and frustrattion to other happier and freer children? Or why wouldn't they fail in school as they are already tired, hungry and not listening? Or why wouldn't they hate life and living as their mother makes them feel life is hard and cursed?

And with all these churching, prayers would be made but it would seem God did not answer as their mother or gaurdian ensures that they remain in that wicked grind that she has created for them.

Thus, they grow up in bitterness and in pain and this is were they might become bullies or people who grow up and become adult bullies since they kept their rage and evil inside

And because of this wickedness, these children begin to be hating God, hating church and hatefulll of people most especially as all they see is the evils people do, therefore mama has ensured that they become atheist.

Which is why Catholic church and the women there are the greatest causers of atheism.
I don't know how you get to know what is going through the children's mind. It can be difficult to truly understand what goes on in children's minds, and while you may have some insights, it’s possible that your interpretation may not be entirely accurate or completely inaccurate. Their thoughts and emotions can be complex and influenced by many factors that aren't always obvious to adults.

Considering your observation that children may not be inclined to participate in Mass, I am led to ponder whether it is not the same to their educational experiences, specifically their willingness to attend school."

One thing I'm certain of is that if you were to ask children whether they enjoy going to school, at least 50% of them would likely say no. Many children, especially in their early years, might view school as a place that imposes structure and discipline, which can feel restrictive. Their reluctance could stem from a variety of reasons, such as the pressure of academic performance, long hours, or simply preferring the freedom to play and explore outside of formal education. Understanding these factors is essential in making the learning experience more engaging and enjoyable for them.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by Petalss(m): 3:45pm On Sep 12, 2024
Ojuntana:
But why should a munafiq who reads his quran where Allah refers to itself as "We" ask questions about the plurality of God in another religion?
Allah is "We" like demons called legion in the Bible. "We" is first person plural.
How does the munafiq explain this?
In the Qur'an, when Allah uses "We" instead of "I," it does not imply that Allah is more than one. In Arabic, the use of "We" (the royal "We"wink is a form of language known as the "majestic plural" or "plural of respect." This is a common linguistic device used to convey power, grandeur, and authority. Many languages, including English, have this feature, where kings, queens, or people of high status sometimes refer to themselves in the plural to express their sovereignty.

Here's a famous example from Queen Victoria's writings:

"We are not amused."

— Queen Victoria (1819-1901)

In this quote, Queen Victoria uses the "royal we" to express her displeasure, emphasizing her authority and majesty. This phrase has become iconic and is often referenced or parodied in popular culture.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Allah Allow Muslims To Marry Their Uncle Daughter Or Stepdaughters by Petalss(m): 9:03pm On Sep 10, 2024
Odingo1:
I have read Koran and I know what I am saying. Look at this verse Koran Koran 65: 4, it says;
65:4
Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

The verse clearly said for those who have not menstruated (underage children), that is why Muslims marry under age girls from the age 9.
Let’s begin by acknowledging a fundamental point: marriage naturally comes before divorce. With that understanding, it becomes essential to first explore the appropriate age for marriage before discussing the issue of divorce.
The Quran does not explicitly mention a specific age for marriage. However, one verse that implies maturity and the ability to make responsible decisions in marriage is from
Surah An-Nisa (Chapter 4, Verse 6): And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them..."

This verse refers to the concept of reaching maturity or "marriageable age," which is understood to mean physical and mental maturity, implying that marriage should occur when an individual is capable of sound judgment and responsibility. Different interpretations and cultures may apply this concept in varying ways, but the key principle is that maturity is a necessary condition for marriage.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Allah Allow Muslims To Marry Their Uncle Daughter Or Stepdaughters by Petalss(m): 8:41pm On Sep 10, 2024
Kingsempires:
you are the only Muslim on this nairaland forum that I like the way you polity answer questions cool
Thank you so much for your kind words! I appreciate your acknowledgement of my efforts to provide respectful and polite responses.
As a Muslim, I strive to represent my faith in a positive and peaceful manner, and it's heartening to know that my approach has resonated with you. I'm here to learn, share, and engage in constructive dialogue, and I look forward to continuing our conversations on this forum!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Allah Allow Muslims To Marry Their Uncle Daughter Or Stepdaughters by Petalss(m): 8:07pm On Sep 10, 2024
Odingo1:
I have read Koran and I know what I am saying. Look at this verse Koran Koran 65: 4, it says;
65:4
Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

The verse clearly said for those who have not menstruated (underage children), that is why Muslims marry under age girls from the age 9.
I notice that you are planning to shift the conversation from cousin marriage to child marriage, which are two entirely different topics. I want to clarify that cousin marriage should not be viewed as something negative or strange. In fact, it is widely accepted across various cultures and beliefs, including among Christians, Jews, and even atheists. It is a normal practice in many societies. Of course, personal opinions may vary, and it’s understandable if someone personally dislikes it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a recognized and accepted tradition.

From a medical standpoint, cousin marriages typically only discouraged if there is a known history of genetic disorders within the family. Furthermore, genetic disorders can also arise in marriages between unrelated individuals. Therefore, the distinction holds little weight.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Allah Allow Muslims To Marry Their Uncle Daughter Or Stepdaughters by Petalss(m): 10:16am On Sep 10, 2024
Odingo1:
The question here is simple, why can’t Koran if it is a word from god tell Mohammed not do close relative marriage that cause genetic disorder, tell him to abolish slavery, not do child marriage of marrying underage girls from 9 years old which cause a lot vagina fistula diseases rampant in Muslim northern Nigeria and many Muslim countries like Afghanistan, Iran,Pakistan, Bangladesh etc simply because Koran allows it and not make mistakes about Sun rotation and other clear errors.
All this things gave Koran out as mere human write up even one Hadith mentioned the man that is writing the relevantion for prophet Mohammed.
Dear Mr. Free Thinker,

I encourage you to truly open your mind and approach this subject with a sense of intellectual freedom before diving into religious research. You've made several assertions, but I suspect many of them are based on second-hand information or possibly content from YouTube videos. It seems like much of what you've shared could be classified as hearsay, and I challenge you to reflect on how thoroughly you've actually investigated these matters.

Can you honestly say you've taken the time to read the Quran yourself? Have you explored its teachings firsthand, even through an English translation? I would wager that there's an 80% chance you haven’t. It's important, especially if you are presenting yourself as a religious researcher, to base your claims on personal study and verified sources rather than mere assumptions or surface-level knowledge.

In true scholarly inquiry, one must ask thoughtful questions and engage critically with the material. Simply making statements without proper examination of the facts doesn't advance meaningful understanding. So, before asserting what is or isn’t true, take a moment to engage with the texts directly and see for yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Allah Allow Muslims To Marry Their Uncle Daughter Or Stepdaughters by Petalss(m): 9:28pm On Sep 09, 2024
Lucifyre:
Dude turned you into an ambulance with his brain dead reasoning 😂
Imagine the Quran according to him to tell his ancestors that AS and AS should not marry.

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