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AntiChristian:
No one was a Christian in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John! Christianity was christend by unknown persons and defined later after Jesus.

All these your theories are falsehood!

Petalss

Mentioning my name while quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.

AntiChristian:
And mind you not all those who call themselves Muslims are actually Muslims!

Petalss

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Please don’t take my response as opposition to what you’ve stated. I was merely attempting to reinforce the point you made to that individual by highlighting that they engage in the same behavior. My intention was to provide additional support for your argument, not to contradict or challenge it.

AntiChristian:
Real wao!

But they are Chrislam (a combination of Christian and Islam) and not Muslims!

They appear as Muslims but call Jesus!

So essentially they are not Muslims!

Don't they distance themselves from any pastor who exhibits inherent flaws or questionable behavior?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is your God?



Does your God approves drinking alcoholic beverages or eating pork meat?



Good!

Now if someone or group of persons decides that pork meat and alcoholic beverages should be meals served right inside mosques are such ones still wordhipers of your Allah?

Those who engage in such activities inside a mosque would likely be viewed as not adhering to the tenets of Islam. It could also be considered deeply disrespectful to the religious practices and values associated with the faith.

Steep:
you have answered right, meaning ignoring warnings and differences especially when it involves lif is not wise, how much more things that can determine your eternal state.
Saying all religion have the same God is like a man ignoring the warning and instead claims all withe liquid is milk.

I never claimed that all religions worship the same God. What I specifically stated is that Muslims, Christians, and Jews worship the same God.
While you may disagree with this, the reality is that these three faiths all call upon the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Moses.
These religious traditions share a common foundation in their belief in the one God who revealed Himself through these figures central to their faiths.
While the three religions differ in their theology and practices, they share a belief in the same God as the God of Abraham. The distinction arises more in how they understand God's nature and relationship with humanity.

Steep:
I have to know if the description of their God fit with the bible, hence I can't answer.

Once you're familiar with their description, kindly provide me with your response.

Just a note: they all happen to be Christian.

Kingsempires:
The Jewish view of son of God is different from christian veiw of son of God why ? If you read the new testament you will no why(all the works Jesus did and the word he said)

You can assist me whenever it's convenient for you.

The core issue at the heart of this trend revolves around the concept of the sonship of Jesus. Within Christianity, there is not universal agreement on what the 'sonship' of Jesus truly means. Various Christian denominations interpret this concept differently. On the other hand, both Muslims and Jews have already made their positions clear regarding Jesus: they do not recognize his sonship in the divine sense, as understood by many Christians.

Steep:
Simple if someone gave you a poison that looks like milk but has a toxic smell, but he tells you it is milks even though it is written on the label that it is poison but he tells you it's just difference in perspective would you drink it?

Glory be to God, we do not drink God.
Now answering your question, any milk that has toxic smell is not a milk. And I will not drink because of the toxic smell

Steep:
If their God is not the God revealed in the bible then no it is a different God.

I am now asking you, are they the same or not?

Steep:
If someone mixes poison that looks like milk and gives you to drink though it smells toxic, would you drink it because somebody told that whither milk or poison it is all the same providd they have same color, it doesn't matter it depends on the perspective you view it, would you accept to drink it.

Permit me to disagree with your analogy. I'm sorry I don't even understand it.

Steep:
It is serious, having the wrong God means believing in a lie, which has eternal an eternal consequence.

Is the God of Adebayo different from the God of Chosen or the God of Oyedepo?

Kingsempires:
like I said na different Ideology curse am

Even in Judaism, the term "Son of God" does not carry the same connotations as it does in Christianity. In the Jewish context, "Son of God" can refer to a person who has a special relationship with God, such as a king or a righteous individual, but it does not imply divinity. It’s more of a metaphorical or symbolic expression of a close relationship or special status rather than a literal divine nature.

MaxInDHouse:
I know when someone is uncomfortable with the truth but it's OK because you will soon run away from me.

But if you want to expose yourself please try to answer these questions:

• Who is your own God?

• Does your God approves drinking alcoholic beverages or eating pork meat?

Let's start from there!

The omniscient Max, I want to clarify that I am not feeling uncomfortable in any way. My decision to distance myself or leave should not be interpreted as a sign of discomfort or unease.

Who is my God? The creator of the universe, the God of Abraham Isaac and Moses, is Allah in Arabic language

Both alcohol and pork are prohibited in Islam, and Muslims are expected to avoid them as part of their faith and practice.

MaxInDHouse:
1. It's Islam that's making it difficult for you.

2. If Allah says something and both of us wants to WORSHIP Allah do you think whoever chose to DISOBEY Allah still views your God as SUPREME?

3. It's as simple as that but since your own people often fight and kill one another despite bowing towards the same God in Mecca you can't understand that you people are practicing false religion.

4. Whatever makes anyone DISOBEY Allah's order such a person is no longer a worshiper of your Allah even if such a person is still hitting his or her head on the ground facing the stone in Mecca!

1. Islam provides guidance and structure in life, making things easier through principles of faith, worship, and daily conduct. The idea of ease can come from trust in God's plan, following divine guidelines, and the community aspect of practicing Islam.

2. Obedience to God is encouraged in all major religions, but that doesn't imply that the faithful are sinless. Everyone makes mistakes or sins, but repentance and seeking forgiveness are key in many faith traditions. Disobedience or sin is often seen as a natural part of human life, but one is encouraged to continuously strive to be better and to repent for wrong actions

3. Many religious teachings, including Christianity and Islam, promote peace and the sanctity of human life. Acts of violence, such as killing, are generally seen as prohibited unless in cases of justice or self-defense, as per certain legal or moral frameworks. The core message of most religions is one of love, peace, and understanding.

4. I would have appreciated it, if you were respectful about the word you replaced the act of bowing with. Even in the scriptures you hold, it shows bowing can be an act of respect, humility, or worship. For instance, many prophets and followers are described as bowing or prostrating in reverence to God. It’s an act that can symbolize submission to the divine, and in some contexts, it can also represent respect for authority or elders.

Mr Max, I respect you so much, but it reduced by 1 cent this evening. Respect plays a critical role in discussions about religious practices.

MaxInDHouse:
I think you are getting it but you just want to pretend since the truth is making you feel bad about your religion.

Lol. Truth be told. You have thought wrongly. And I am not a pretender.

MaxInDHouse:
Now i know why you find it really difficult to grasp the meaning of SUPREME BEING!

Only faithful people believe in that title and such ones will never ever raise a weapon against their fellow worshipers under the same supreme being!

Who are the faithful people?

MaxInDHouse:
Disobedient to who?
Are you saying he accepted the one he chose to DISOBEY?
So in what way is such one a supreme ruler over Cain?

Only you can understand yourself. I'm sorry I can't even comprehend what you are driving at.

elated177:
Petalss, that question should be directed to the antichristian. Are you a Muslim?

Yes, I am a Muslim.

Is it the God of the Scriptures or the God of the Quran? Or are you of the opinion that they are one and the same God?

MaxInDHouse:
There is no supreme being in that scenario!

God who is supposed to be the supreme being between Cain and Abel said Abel's sacrifice is better so Cain needs to learn from Abel therefore if Cain BELIEVES the one talking to be SUPREME RULER in that scenario he will not reject what God said.

So Cain kicking against God's word means both aren't worshiping the same God!

Because he was disobedient, he was worshipping another God?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know the real meaning Supreme Being!

The one who is supreme use his authority to maintain order within his domain, that's why there is law and order so that no form of free will surpasses law and order set by the supreme being.

So it's either there is no supreme being or the there are numerous beings claiming they are supreme!

Where was the supreme being when Cain killed Abel?

MaxInDHouse:
You need to sit down and meditate on the real meaning of that title "GOD" because adherents must think alike so adherents killing one another yet worshiping together simply means there is no supreme being in their midst or that's what their God wants!

The existence of conflict among religious adherents does not negate the existence of a supreme being. Rather, it can be understood as a reflection of human free will, diverse interpretations of faith, and external social influences.

elated177:
Antichristian, which God are you talking about in your assertion below? Is it the the God of my Scriptures or the God of your Qoran? Or are you of the opinion that they are one and the same God?

Can you state two differences between them?

I believe they are the same.
Kingsempires believe same too

Steep:
Satanists believe the devil is the one true God so based on your interpretation your God and that of Satanist are the same just different interpretations.
If I ask you what are the core identity of God you may not be able to answer.

I’m not personally familiar with the beliefs of Satanists, maybe you are familiar with them sha.
Did they specifically identify this figure(Devil) as the same God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Moses, or is there a distinction in their beliefs?

MightySparrow:
Quran itself is an imitation. Before Mohammadmmd there was no prophet from Ishmael. All the stories in Quran are distorted Jewish stories.

Your claim that the Quran is just an imitation or distortion overlooks its unique aspects. While the Quran shares some stories with Jewish texts, it also introduces new elements and interpretations. It asserts its own divine authority and message, distinct from previous scriptures. Additionally, it acknowledges earlier prophets but presents its teachings as a continuation and refinement rather than mere imitation.

You can create a new thread for that if you want.

MaxInDHouse:
No human mother will be happy to see her kids engage in violence against each other in fact such a mother will start crying as she doesn't have the power to stop or end such a thing due to imperfection.

But when talking about God He is challenged when His worshipers are doing such as He is perfect and fully understood what disorder could lead to. That's why the Bible God will never ever condone such from any of His worshipers. Jesus is God's only begotten Son he said:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me" John 5:30

So if i call Jesus "Lord" and my Lord says he can not do anything of his own initiative unless what God instruct him to do please do i really regard his as my Lord when i decide to do my things differently without strictly following his footsteps? Matthew 15:8-9

Maybe I should just guess your answer to my question is NO.

Which deities or religious figures instruct or condone the act of killing one's fellow human beings?
Are there any specific gods or divine beings in various mythologies or religious texts who are associated with commanding or endorsing such actions?

Steep:
also include satanist who worship Satan as the one god.
Anybody that claims he is worshiping one God you assume it must be the same with the Christian God.
How can allah who doesn't have a son, be the same God of Christians who have a son?

You're overlooking the fact that, despite the various interpretations and attributes different individuals may assign to God, the God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Moses remains the same. The core identity and essence of this deity do not change based on personal perspectives or differing beliefs.

Whether you describe him as having a wife, a son, or a mother, or whether you refer to him as embodying the 3 in 1 or being 1 in 3, the essential truth remains unchanged. He is still the God worshipped by Abraham, Isaac, and Moses. This is the same God whom Jews, Christians, and Muslims call upon. Despite the different ways of understanding or describing him, his fundamental nature remains consistent.

MightySparrow:
Why cursing nah?
Is he not an Islamic preacher?
Muslims don't have anything of their own but to copy Christianity and when impossible to criticize.

Bless you brother.

Just wow.

MightySparrow:
It doesn't matter.
Islam is a copyc.

Lol

MaxInDHouse:
I don't get your question but with your own illustration it's evident that religionists fighting and killing one another are not children of the same parent!

Setting aside religious considerations for the moment, when siblings from the same parents engage in conflict or even violence against each other, is such behavior is a direct result of their parents' instructions?

MaxInDHouse:
I don't get your question but with your own illustration it's evident that religionists fighting and killing one another are not children of the same parent!

Imagine a mother who gives her two children the same set of instructions on how to prepare a meal. One child follows the instructions carefully and fully understands the process, preparing the meal as intended. The other child misinterprets part of the instructions and ends up preparing the meal differently, perhaps leaving out some ingredients or cooking it in a different way. While the meals they prepare may look or taste different, both children were still following the instructions of the same mother.

If both children were given the same guidance from their mother, does the difference in how they understood and followed it mean they have a different mother, or is it simply a difference in their interpretation of her instruction?

MightySparrow:
Your Iman conducting deliverance in the name of Isa.

Where is Mohammadmmd and his name?!

Is Odumeje your pastor?

MaxInDHouse:
Let's imagine you are that mother will you approve your children fighting and killing one another claiming it's due to your instructions they want to follow?

You haven't answered my question still.

I won't approve my children kill each other under my watch.