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budaatum:
Better still. It means you wouldn't believe the book, but might seek to understand it instead. Because being Nigerian, it would program you one way or the other due to its influence being in the air you breath and likely breast fed to you.

Do not let your self be convinced you descended from some ignorant made from mud enslaved Adam please, to work in some poxy garden, when you can choose to be an image of God and rule and subdue and multiply.

budaatum:
Be honest with yourself. It's where you don't want to go. Fortunately, once your eyes are open and you see you can't close them and unsee.

If you are a Christian, be glad there is Christ. He would not want you to not use your own senses to worship God after he has opened them, for only then can you do greater things than he did.

budaatum:
You al least admit you don't know, and that is the start of getting to know.

Read Genesis 1-3 to determine if you'd want to be a Genesis 1 human or a Genesis 2 human. It might influence what you become in life.

Also study how alimanjeris are created by depriving people of knowledge.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

budaatum:
It took Britain almost 1500 hundred years after conversion to Christianity for them to pluck the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil to test if knowledge kills or if it frees from slavery to ignorance.

We, thankfully, live in what I'd call faster times so it might take us 150 years, or a mere 15 even, when we too will begin to develop ourselves with the sweat of our brow like they did to rule and subdue and multiply.

budaatum:
It seems impossible for this to be understood, just as it's impossible for many to understand that Adam and Eve who were made from mud were naked ignorant slaves to those made in the Image of God.

Thankfully, Eve was not as stupid as Adam. She plucked the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil to test for herself if she would die, only to find it good for gaining wisdom, which enabled them to be freed from slavery and become self employed as the garden of eden god kicked them out because they dared used the brain in their own head!

They went on to populate the earth and live almost a thousand years, the story goes.

BigTolulope:
Re: Natbrowny, Yes he knew the father.

Kingsempires:
my guy long time

Michael547:
So from your explanation, anyone can be a pastor so far he is willing to be trained to do so.

Numerouno94:
Tanx for ur understanding sir.
I'm of the school of thought which blif in having a personal relationship wit God. A one-on-one relationship. Which can b attained through the holy bible. Read, digest, understand and practice that which is written in it. And love ur neighbour. Luv is the keyword in everything we do.

Catholic and Anglican church still preaches love and salvation. Unlike most Pentecostals that are all abt prosperity at all cost.

Have a wonderful night sir.

Numerouno94:
Naaaaa. Never. Was telling him not to let anyone sway him. If u knw ur bible, blif me no one can manipulate nor confuse u as regards ur faith.

Michael547:
So when pastors claim that they were supernaturally called by God, it means that they are lying?

haybhi1:
Lol, on a lighter note though, imagine I have a babe that tattoos my pic or name on her body, and I can confirm I'm the only dude she hitting, so she loyal... damn imma feel on top of the world and finna do anything for her though... if she pretty enough, then I aint hitting any other pom pom no more...

Lol, crazy though

Numerouno94:
Just read and understand ur bible. Do wat Jesus preaches. That's all u need. No allow any person control or influence u wen u have the Bible "God's words" in ur hands.

Confirm4real:
Only God knows people he called into ministry most called themselves

DeepSight:
In that very verse, he added "Just as ye and I are one."
So are you now Jesus?

And also therefore God?

It's obvious he meant of one mind, or united in thought.

Kobojunkie:
It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember?

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations?

casualobserver:
The Bible also says a man shall not divorce his wife except for sexual infidelity.

MaxInDHouse:
Moses is God too! Exodus 7:1

SEGLIZ:
demons won't appear in form of Angels they lack the ability and mind when demons or human beings with dark powers and abilities come close you know so you know their purpose like it is said satan comes not but to steal and destroy.

osuulola:
Shouldn't tithe be symbolic too?

Heffalump:
Israel will triumph.
It's their birthright to win in any war.

To hell with terrorists and their sympathizers

Gabrielshow24:
Hmm

Well what I performed above was a critical analysis yeah another fancy language for passing constructive criticism.

This is necessary in order to determine who is really right.

You just have to scrutinize the facts

Gabrielshow24:
Imagine yourself in an island with no one as time go by you start to make tools because you know it is only you and no is coming you develop a distinct mentality.

Now scale this up considerably
Only you without space, time etc
You have to make these things!

What do you think your personality will be like?

Solely giving; this is the beginning of the mentality of God.
He had to make everything, create what will come to be known as space and time.

Now back to the question.
Holy Spirit is a deep topic most people don't really know how to explain him in the context of trinity.

For simplicity he is called the spirit of God.
But from Jesus' words we see that God is a spirit and those that must serve him must do so in spirit and in truth.

Hence that becomes unique: "spirit with a spirit"
How fascinating!
But this is not the right way of interpretation to follow instead the spirit is the third member of the trinity. And in fact all three are spirits!
Only Jesus existed as a physical being.

To avoid going into deeper mysteries.
This is suitable for the meantime

They all have some distinct characters and traits.

The Father is the being I talked about that dwelt in "timeless" and "dimensionless" realm by himself.

His origination defeats logic.

He brought forth a seed of his own substance- the Son, which symbolically translates to life.

The son had to grow to the fullness of the Father and dwelt with him in this timeless and dimensionless realm(that's why Jesus said that even before the mountains were created he existed, likewise before the earth had its form he was etc)

Hence after reaching the fullness of God everything was brought forth.

It's the father's delight that everything was made for the son hence the story of creation is not about me or you but about the love of the Father towards the son.

And likewise Jesus in his wisdom decided to bring forth without count beings in which mankind is one of them and share the self same love as he hath received from his father to us all!

Gabrielshow24:
Thank God you said you don't judge

Gabrielshow24:
If you want us to talk about presentism that's pretty convenient considering the fact that Your prophet labelled Abraham Muslim based on his contemporary interpretation of whosoever that bows down his head before God as Muslim. Yet you don't cry presentism you take it head and sinker.

Gabrielshow24:
If Abraham was alive I am sure he won't have considered himself a Muslim. The self same way your prophet labelled all the prophets before him as Muslims using the same argument which am sure most of them identify as Jew but it doesn't matter because as usual it's the prophet hence no presentism.
How convenient!

Gabrielshow24:
Your prophet like wise used elements of presentism where he mentioned how semen his formed based on his scientific view as at that time.

Gabrielshow24:
It's a logical imperative that looking through the lens of ethics most of the things done then where barbaric and vile. Unfortunately your prophet is not spared from these acts.

Gabrielshow24:
At least why not use presentism to judge Jesus.
Infact the present form of human rights were inspired by him hence which shows using any lens either modern or past he was an exemplary figure worthy to be followed and emulated unlike Muhammad.

Gabrielshow24:
Hence even based on your past context some historical commentaries of Mohammed depict him as bad apart from Islamic propagandas.

I do recall one saying "Prophets do not come to you harmed with swords"

If you want I will send the link you can read the book yourself

Gabrielshow24:
"Can two work together unless they agree"

Hence there is unity in purpose.

Gabrielshow24:
As regards equality. Everything regarding authority is derived from one form of Power or whatsoever that power can be drawn from.
If you look at things critically Power is a concept created by God( a method to get things done), an arm if you get what I mean it's a small subset of the things of God it can be given it can taken away but it doesn't by any means affect the person of God .

The spirit of God is as simply put the spirit of God, the Son attained the fullness of the Father hence you see emphasis throughout the bible of he that walketh in the midst of the seven candles, has the seven spirits of God etc to show that he hath the fullness of God in him.

The bible mentioned Jesus baptized with Power and Spirit of God.

Gabrielshow24:
I believe God wanted a family, companionship and he intended in his infinite wisdom to bring forth his companion(Son-Jesus).

Which allures to the fact that immortality brought forth Mortality(life)

Gabrielshow24:
Everything exists because of the Father showing his works to the Son thereby bring forth creation. that's why bible mentions that all things were made by him, for him etc

And he has given everything to the Son(which means whatsoever the Father hath the son possesses it) that's why Abraham called God the Possessor of Heaven and Earth.

As a result of this They are equal but the son humbles himself before the Father cause it's the wish of the Father to share.

The prerogative came from the Father and that's why son submits himself to his Father and the Father loves him and has given him a name above every other name!

Gabrielshow24:
They are of the same nature(substance)

Gabrielshow24:
Yes
There are three united in one purpose not one in three persons(different personas, eras etc and various reasons to justify their answers)

Gabrielshow24:
Hence there's nothing you can do to defend your prophet having sexual relations with a girl child. By all modern standards that is pedophilia

With the advancement of technology you have a bigger job of saving your prophets atrocities.

Gabrielshow24:
No need to mince words or dress the gun.
There are three united in one purpose not one in three persons(different personas, eras etc and various reasons to justify their answers)

MaxInDHouse:
Well you're on point since you all believe your spirits survives death and continue living as you in the spirit realms but we disagree with such teachings.
At death nothing survives any living creature death is the exact opposite of life!