ddippset: YEAH. but i want to understand why he keeps saying 'i do my talking on the pitch' in response to blatter's comment.
Thats part of the tactics...If u can remember,he made that comment immediately after scoring that Hatrick against Sweden.....And knowing Jorge Mendes very well,he is the one behind such comment.......... Its funny though,but Ronaldo is one my fav players,but his attitude since he Joined Madrid has made me to have a disliking for him...Just hope Bale doesnt follow in same shoe....Still got my Di Maria though!!
ddippset: let's look at the bright side and take it as a compliment. if pele(who might be the best ever) keeps talking about messi, then messi is definitely up there as well. infact if there were to be a poll today, the best 3 players ever would be messi, maradona and pele, in no particular order.
ddippset: guys, please i need clearance on this. what's this stuff about 'i do my talking on the pitch' by ronaldo? cus blatter has never said that ronaldo is not a great footballer. blatter only said that messi is a better footballer then ronaldo. infact blatter thinks that ronaldo is the second best footballer in the world. that is a big compliment to ronaldo. so what does he really mean by ' i do my talking on the pitch'? is he trying to say 'i am proving you wrong on the pitch mr blatter, i am better than messi!' i ask because this 'i do my talking on the pitch' nonsense has been coming out of every other mvtherfvcker's mouth.
forgive me shaa for this words,i know its harsh to use,but its the truth nonetheless..Ronaldo is a pure illiterate,and it shows in every speech,every action he takes.... When Blatter made that comment,u first have to see the peepz with him..They were kids for crying out loud...its just like a grandpa with grandsons thing,with grandpa trying to make grandsons laugh by creating a joke....A simple joke,heightened by the media and capitalised on by Ronaldo to appeal to the gullible...In Logic,its a simple case of fallacy of Argumentum ad Misericordian{Appeal to Pity} ...He just wants it to be like he's being robbed of his right !! Unlike Messi,who will prefer to keep quiet and just play and let the papers do the talking,Ronaldo has seen that the papers aint talking same about him,and so he wants to force it out of the papers...Its same with Ribery,same tactics but on a more backing fact==>trophies!! Like i always say to my friends,If the Balon d'or voting was left to Journalists alone,Ronaldo will never win it again....But because its not them alone,he has a slight chance of winning it with certain Team captains and Coaches sympathizing with him...What has still baffled me is: What has Ronaldo achieved in the Year 2013? .....Seriously,to Me,Mikel,Emenike,Moses,Neyma,Falcao,Ibrahimovic; have all done better!! Scoring irrelevant goals doesnt matter!! Thats my take!!
dmcdad: I won't advice that Dongou should be a starter, deploy him at the striking position during the second half. As for Ney and Alexis, swap their wings. Right wing is never for Ney. Not like he wouldn't play it well or something, buh you and I know he is far more effective in the left wing position. Then I think Busquets should be at the middle in your formation.
My line-up goes thus.... ............Pinto........... Montoya....Puyol.....Bartra....Adriano Busquets....Song....Iniesta Alexis.....Gas......Neymar.
Then later on, Pedro will come on for Sanchez. Dongou replaces Iniesta(he played in spain's friendlies and should use some rest for mid-week game against Ajax) while Gas plays Iniesta's role and Dongou strikes. And Roberto comes on for Busi.
Any contradiction?
Nope...We have the same tin in mind though...But ah didnt put Neymar on the right flank o! My idea is that Song comes on for Sergi Roberto,Fabregas comes in for Iniesta, [/b]and [b]Pedro coming in for Dongou ,and then Alexis moves to the centre forward role or swapping role with Neymar in the left Flank..........
My take on The Expected line up against Granada[b] .. Well,even common sense will tell us that The line up is somehow easier to pick now,as well as hard to pick too... [b]Pinto starts in between the sticks.. In the backline,Montoya to deputise for the injured Alves at the Right Full back Position...Puyol didnt go for any International duty,so he is the only fresh player in our central defence,so he gets the nod..He is likely to be paired alongside Bartra cuz of their ever yielding fruitful tutorship partnership... Alba is yet to return to full fitness,Adriano should start at Left Back... ... In the Midfield,Martino might be tempted to play a double pivot of Song and Sergio Busquets {with Busquets expected to also play the central role in place of Xavi}..However,a more better choice will be to give Sergi Roberto the chance to fill in the boots for Xavi..I was reading a blog where someone said that somehow,this injuries are a blessing in disguise,it help us determine the depth of the entire squad,and i agree with him...I mean,we wouldnt have known how Great Bartra is if he wasnt given chance,and almost in the same manner too==>injury to starters!! ..... Neymar and Alexis are sure to start either side of the Flanks... However,i know Martino loves playing Fabregas in the false nine position,and he will probably do same again,but on my own opinion,i suggest he gives Jean Marie Dongou this rare start in the Central Attacking role,being the Only real Striker on our ranks..I have seen the dude play,and he is good,very good!! I mean,at his age,Bojan was also starting at same role when Eto'o was injured in the past,and wasnt bad..... ... I will prefer it we have a little depth in Bench in the likes of Pedro ,Song and Fabregas........ .....So,this is my line up:......... ..............PINTO................. Montoya.......BARTRA.......Puyol........Adriano Busquets......Sergi Roberto.......Iniesta Neymar........Jean Marie Dongou.........Alexis .....
Zeus Olympus Penaldo deserves the Balon D'Or for winning La...ok... sorry. He deserves it for winning the Champio....oops. He really deserves it for winning the Copa del... no..it was the super copa, wasn't it? What? He didn't play in the super copa? Ok, then give it to him for winning against Israel, beating Northern Ireland and Russia twice. Oh ... he lost to Russia? Ok.. then give it to him for winning against Luxembourg! All right.. I give up... just givandt to him for all the dives and the penalties this year, OK?
I couldnt help but just keep laughing to this!! Reali funny! But as funny as it is,it is still the gospel truth shaa!!
rabzy: Jesus christ was a messenger from God and the Jews refused to accept him but they claim they worship, honour and love God, But Jesus was telling them that if you dont honour me who God sent then you are not honouring the person that sent me. That does not make Jesus his father, what he said is that if you disrespect me you disrespect who i came to represent. Even in the human diplomacy, it is the same. The ambassador represents the country, the messenger represents the king that sends him, if you attack the embassy of a country, you are attacking the country. JWs honour Jesus christ very well, but if you think making him God almighty is honour....it is not, it is blasphemy.
Christ is reigning with the authority of God, he derives his legitimacy, power and authority from God, So how can he be above him that gave him the authority...there is nowhere in the scriptures where God placed himself under Christ...he is always depicted in a lower position to God in all references to him...He is always seen at the right hand of God, never on Gods throne. Before Abraham..before the the creation of anything else....Jesus christ has existed for uncountable number of years with his father in heaven...(islam does not teach any of these, so please stop lumping us with islam)
I Have to go now i will talk on the alpha and omega expressions later
rabzy: You were the one that mentioned that if Christians are peace lovers and that if Xtians were interested in wars, Islam and Jehovah's Withnesses would have all perished. The truth Jesus taught was that we should not engage in warfare but history has shown that 'christians' or christian nations has been interested in wars as much as anybody else which is not what Jesus taught. Whereas the Jehovah's Witnesses you mentioned have been known to refrain from all forms of warfare.
You are no better yourself then....So,what of the Israelites that God do give war plans to fight? So,God is now contradicting himself right? So,if someone takes a fight to your doorstep,and u have the means to wad them off,yet u are just there and die like a fool? And u think God will clap 4 u and say welldone my child 4 committing suicide right? Yet u forget that some people must fight in War right? It all still falls back to the Fact that Jw's want the world to be destroyed as soon as possible so that they will inherit the new earth!! Programmed set of people they are,JW!!
All this are Blah blah blah blah blah News to me..Fifa and co should do as they wish!! All i want to hear now is:Messi,Valdes,Alves,Xavi,Alba,Tello,Pique; are all back to normal training and gearing up to Destroy Laliga and UCL!!
Ozichim: JW is full of error see how the man cleverly avoided the truth, From this passage; there nothing hidden about the heaven and those that will be in heaven but they look for reason to believe error.
Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
If you care for the truth read this. JW have already resolved to believe what they want to believe. Only God’s mercy will deliver some of them. Note that Thessalonians are not Jews but see what Paul told them.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
JW looks for places to use to confuse some ignorant and unfortunate once.
rabzy: From your comment you are implying that Jesus is now greater than God the father...that is so so so wrong.
9 Therefore [because He stooped so low] God has highly exalted Him and has [a]freely bestowed on Him the name that is above every name, 10 That in (at) the name of Jesus every knee [b]should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 And every tongue [[c]frankly and openly] confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
Can you see from the above verses that the exaltation of Jesus to a higher position, the sole purpose and eventual result is to the 'glorification of God the father'. Every action Jesus did was to vindicate and glorify his father and at the end of everything he will subject himself to God.
As shown in the comment above 1 cor 15: 25-28, clearly argued against what you said....Jesus was never exalted to God's position. Nobody has ever and will ever be equal to Almighty God
Why infer what he/she never said? He/she told you in plain black and white reading that Jesus is God..Where did u see Greater? Can a God be greater than Himself? You are just making it sound as if There two Gods!! Mtcheeeew!
Ozichim: Don't misunderstand the thing, When you reference Jesus Christ you are actually referencing God (the same person). That is why if you honor Jesus you are honoring the Father.
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
NB: God does not share His Glory with any man or anybody
JW doesn’t honor the Father because they don’t honor the Son.
If Christ is the one reigning now then does it mean that Christ is above God now; ie So until Christ has finished conquering every enemy including death, Christ is equal/above God. Or for now Christ is not under God or is above God until the last enemy is distroyed; see yourself.
That place (1 Cir 15:25-28) is referring to the end of time when after everything; Satan, his agents and sinners would have been judged, the new earth and new Heaven would have descended and God will now be all and all and will reign forever. There will not be need for salvation, so the need for Christ name to be used then is not relevant after this. Let me ask you before Christ was born, it was only God’s name (Jehovah, Yahweh etc) that was been used then, So were was Christ. Remember Christ said that before Abraham He was. Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
So it was after and for the purpose of salvation that Christ was made manifest. So when God has finished everything about salvation everything about Jesus Christ will be referred to God only. Infarct, He is the same as God, subjecting Himself under God is what He has been doing even why He was in earth. Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
So don’t be confused, Christ has been reigning since and He has always put himself below God, but He is the same person (God)
Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
So if Christ is Alpha and Omega, then what is God? So If He is not under God now and He is resigning, where is He now? Mr man He is the same person. JW should drop their demonic doctrine; Repent or you perish. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
There is nothing confusing in the Bible.
Don't misunderstand the thing, When you refrence Jesus Christ you are actually referencing the same person. That is why if you hounour Jesus you are honouring the Father.
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
My dear,i dont know if you are a guy or girl,but whoever revealed this to You is the Spirit of Truth itself..And the Spirit of Truth is God... I just hope many people will see This truth as it is...I couldnt have said it better... I was trying to see if the Person that quoted COL1:15 for me actualy knew what he was quoting,but he backed out..Maybe he realised that that Passage is not as simple as it appears!! This has led me to Believe that No Jw person knows Who Jesus Christ is!! None of them know it,and thats Why they will continue to err,till they correct this error!!
Wakabook01: Let me answer your first question - In the Sermon on the Mount, Christ declared: “Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth” (Matthew 5:5). There are two misconceptions commonly connected with this passage. First, the nature of meekness is misunderstood. Second, some contend that the verse speaks of a future, eternal abode upon the earth. To many, “meekness” suggests the idea of passivity, someone who is easily imposed upon, spinelessness, weakness. Since Jesus declared Himself to be meek (Matthew 11:29), some perceive Him as a sissy-type character. Nothing could be further from the truth. In the Greek New Testament, “meek” is from the Greek term praus. It does not suggest weakness; rather, it denotes strength brought under control. The ancient Greeks employed the term to describe a wild horse tamed to the bridle. In the biblical sense, therefore, it describes one who has channeled his strengths into the service of God. Underline the word in Matthew 5:5, and in the margin of your Bible write: See Numbers 12:3; Zephaniah 2:3. The former passage describes Moses as the meekest man on earth — certainly no weakling; the latter verse declares that the meek of the earth are those who have kept Jehovah’s ordinances. The meek person submits to God! As to the expression “inherit the earth,” the following facts should be noted: (1) God is the owner of this earth (Psalm 24:1). (2) Those who obey Christ become children of God (Galatians 3:27; Hebrews 5:9), and “joint-heirs” with the Lord (Romans 8:17). (3) The Father supplies all our needs (Philippians 4:19), we therefore enjoy this earth and its blessings more than all others. (4) Mainly, however, our inheritance is spiritual (Acts 20:32); we are heirs in the kingdom of Christ (Ephesians 5:5), and citizenship in that kingdom is available now on this earth (cf. John 3:3-5; Colossians 1:13). (5) Finally, we also look for an inheritance that is reserved for us in heaven (1 Peter 1:4), because we are aware that the earth will be destroyed when Christ returns (2 Peter 3:10). Thus, underline “inherit the earth,” and make some appropriate notations in your margin.
Thanks for this great Piece bro!! Dont mind the Jw's and their erroneous teachings!!
JMAN05: I truely understand your point, but one fact is indisputable, Jesus cannot claim to be omniscience like God. God doesnt serve anyone and cannot stick to the commandment of any God, But Jesus serve God and sticks to God's commandment.
Are You sure About that?@bolded This is the more reason why people hate to listen to your errors!! Do u actually know the Meaning of Omniscience? Of course,it is your belief that Jesus is Archangel Michael that warrants you to say such errors!! Sometimes people just confuse theirselves for nothing...You believe there is Godhead,but you dont believe there is trinity!! What then is Godhead? and what is Trinity?
Booty butt chic: Like shit...miss a lot...over pampering..little gossips ,manyy thingss ...arguments ,,,. We are just best of friends.. shit aint hapening nada
Sorry,is That your Own? I mean the pix on ur profile!!
kingsley Mbang:JW is d only religion dat teach d truth,xposin false religious teachin such as Hell fire,Trinity doctrine,Immortality of d soul... etc. no wonder many hates them.
So now they have their own religion too? Hmmmmm....no comment
TroGunn: The verses there are cool. They make things even clearer.
When John 1:2 says "all things were made through him (Christ)", it shows Christ was used by God for creating other things including the creating of "heavens and the earth" in the "beginning".
The "beginning" of Gen 1:1 is beginning of creating the heavens (universe) and earth - Christ was apparently created before then, also angels were created before earth was made. (Job 38:4-7).
In fact, Proverbs 8:30 refer to Christ as a "master workman" as it relates to creating other things, after verse 22 says Christ was made first.
lond07: Please explain Col 1:15 in view of the underlying questions .....
1. What does it mean to call someone a creation? 2. when you now go further to describe him as [first born], what does that imply?
I was hoping you will do the explaining of Col1:5 for me o! As for your creation question,i have examples though! The making of a tv is a creation,while the tv is the created..The building of a house is a creation too,and house so built is the created! Also,the mating of two fertile humans/animals{male and female} will give birth to a creation==>an offspring...... So,all is creation,but not the same mode of creation.... So,help me explain that Col1:15 that u posted!
War Horse: Fine question. Friend, have you ever read Colosians 1: 13 - 17.
Colossians 1:13-17
King James Version (KJV)
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God,the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Notice that it is talking about Jesus who is referred to as "His dear son". Jesus is also said to be the image of his invisible father. The how is he God Almighty? Jesus is the first person that God created. Every other thing came through Jesus
Thanks too bro......... @red color,You do need to tell me more about that though!
even if they give him, den start shouting wuuuuuuuwuuuuuuwuuuuuu
If qualifying Portugal with a play-off is the reason Ronaldo will win the World best,then he will neva win it.....Crap!! Did u watch the France vs Ukraine Match? Did u watch the Croatia vs Iceland Match? Didnt they qualify their teams too? Was it not people that got them through? The simple truth is,Portugal were stupid and sloppy,that they just did what they should have done a longtime ago!! They should have topped their group Ahead of Russia! Qualifying on the nerve of a tricky match wich could have gone either ways doesnt give him or the entire team a plus,it shows that they lack the quality of champions{not that they are champions anyway}!!
TroGunn: True, Christ is often called "only-begotten" Son. Begotten means "to father or produce as offspring" - vocabulary.com
So, since Christ existed before coming to earth, he was "begotten" before then, as you rightly pointed out.
Here are few verses that gives a good indication how:
Proverbs 8:22 ( generally accepted to refer to Christ) - “Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation and from before all of his works.” (Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
Col 1:15 - "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation"
Rev 3:14 - “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation". (English Standard Version)
From the above, best conclusion is that God created Jesus Christ as the very first creation.
Thats cool bro...Thanks 4 the answer!! This now leads to my main question.....Since Jesus is the first of Gods creation,how was He created/begotten? .... Please,bear this in mind while replying me.. John1:2 "All things were made Through Him,and Without Him,nothing was made that was Made" .. Gen1:1 "In the Beginning,God created the heavens and the earth" I know u might be inclined to ask me why i put those verses there...But dont okay!