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[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]What has that got to do with the canaanites masaccre I don't you...
They were killed by their iniquity,or your pre-assumed fake god wanted to conquer the land becoz of the richness of it...,a land flowing with milk and honey...
Wake up,bro! There is nothing to gain in christianity...[/quote]And stop erring saying they were massacred!! They went to a war thinking their gods can save them,but their gods met a Mightier God,and shut still,and the Mightier Gods people Defeated them in a war..How is that Massacre?

ooman: what thought is that?

You tell me..aren't they ur thoughts?

GeneralShepherd: Because it plays on the human psychology,our innate desire/ curiosity to answer the question, why are we here?

Basing the validity of the bible on its popularity, is the fallacy of ad-populum. Anyway even the bible said that broad is the way that leads to hell, so by your logic and bibilical injunction, Alpha's master Satan is the true God? Right?

So why are You Here? Where do you go from here?

Alfa Seltzer: My point is that prayer is of no use if you exercise freewill. Freewill means god doesn't intervene.

Except if you want Him to Intervene, which is still part of your exercise of Your Free Will

GeneralShepherd: Talk of my mum praying everyday for God to give me a job,testing my arse.

If you don't have contacts in the industry,relevant certification or job experience,getting a job will be challenging. No God is needed there simple and the earlier one conditions his mind and accepts reality the better. I seriously can't be bothered about god

Oh yeah,you will surely be bothered about God someday...You will remember this statement,and remember the name too philfearon

ooman: well, who made he who gave the laws?

If u make it at the end of time,when The People of God will see God,then You pose this ur question to Him!!

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]And who said I was looking for materialism,your post shows that you wanted to avoid the question,so you had to start blabbering.
The question was directed to foxy to answer to the crimes of the god u worship to tell us why people still suffer.
Anyway,If you know what happened to me for trusting your god,then you will understand it is more than chasing after materialism,
for your info bro,i'm nt after materialism,i'm comfortable and happy with my family[/quote]You dont have a strong Faith in God,thats why with a little obstacle,you are all about saying Your trust in God caused u something...Bro,like i said,if u want to enjoy God,you have to displease yourself...If you think u can please urself and please God,thats a Mistake...
If i go to the bible nw,u wil start attacking me,so i wil use a place of Work 4 example..
For u to be retained in a company's payroll,u must be a worker..For u to be retained longer,u have to be able to displease urself by waking up early everyday and going to work..You wil make sure that u obey every single rule in the company...The longer u stay in this company and work hard,u get increaze in salary,promotion and other incentives...
Now,you are getting all these becuz u are obeying the company's rule and instructions and the likes...But what happens when u dont obey them? You are fired....Your probability of being back is almost equal to zero...
Same with God..The more u stay in God,and obey Him,despite the obstacles,thats the more u grow in knowledge of Him and understand Him more..But unlike the company case,when u stop obeying God,he wil temporarily go out of ur way,but wil be hoping you come back to Him...If u eventually admit ur sin and go back to Him,He welcomes u wit open arms,and then just like in humans,you wil realise just how much u have missed Him in ur life...
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If u expect that trusting in God means that things will be rosy for u,that means u started off on the wrong note...Many people have died preaching about him..Many were killed,beheaded,cruxified,thrown into burning oil,thrown into burning furnace...Why do u think He allowed them die when He can save them? The thing is,there is nothing here on earth.....Everything here is vanity....You have Asha200 today,tomorrow Asha305 wil come out,and ur interest in Asha200 wil subside...We want to look gud,appear wel and doing b4 family members and society,and all that....You build a house with 10rooms,yet u sleep in one room,in a particular corner of the room...All is vanity....But then,u die,the flesh u are labouring all this earthly things for,will get devoured by terminates within weeks,and none of ur accumulated wealth wil be buried with u.....Whats the gain?....
When u decide to look past this life,thats when u wil start appreciating the Essence of God in ur life!! One luv..

ooman: written by fishermen(the disciples), murderers (Paul), male chauvinists (Peter and Paul), cattle herders (Moses), and bunch of other jobless illiterates who wrote down their dumb thoughts...

And yet nobody believes ur Genius thoughts...Shouldnt it bother u?

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]Bcoz' most people are ignorant of the fact that the bible didn't drop from heaven,it was written by some useless,idle beings![/quote]And yet people are buying into its crap? We live in a world where everybody seems to be enlightened..But if u look at their source of Enlightenment,you will just laugh ur head out!!

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]Then why were they killed[/quote]I will open a thread in this section to enlighten people on the Things about God they should know....
The Topic will be "TRACTATES 1: DETACHMENT"...
They were killed by their own iniquity....Its just like a Scenario where u were offered a job by two separate companies...The choice is left 4 u to choose the company to work 4...Now,after selecting the Company of ur choice,and it turns out u dont like the company again,their incentives,etc,Who wil u blame for ur current situation?

Alfa Seltzer: What happens to prayers?

You have to first tell me the content of this Prayer you are talking About bro!!

Billyonaire: I see no sincerity in the OP; I see someone who is attempting to find answers to questions without the humility and temerity to listen.

There is no Being called God as Christianity depicts. The Universe is guided by Laws NOT God. You can not escape these Universal Laws but you can find a way to work with them.

These Universal Laws are guided by Energy, these Energy is what everything and nothing is. The totality of all Energy in the Universe is what we could term God, so God is simply put, ENERGY.

Compared the 'story' of creation to laws of energy:

"In the begining was the word, and the word was with God, and so was it at the begining, all things were made by him, and without him nothing was made that was made" . . . Now substitute "word" with energy' bearing in mind that ENErgy can not be created no destroyed but can change forms.

Energy was never created, can not be destroyed, just like your God in the Bible. So therefore, the Bible was written to create a being out of energy just for imagination.

Next time you get hurt and disappointed, the blame is on your folly to believe on the multitude's God. For me, such being, do not exist, but such energy does.

Your analogy is good....But then,who made those Laws that guide the Universe? Did the Laws just stand up one day and start working on its own?
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In the human perspective,the laws that govern us today were put together by some people who thought it wise that if everybody should be allowed to exercise his original liberty and freedom,The world will be full of kios and Anarchy!!
If u have read the Social contract by the likes of John Locke,you will understand that Laws are created,because they dont exist on their own...Someone makes laws to control certain aspect of a thing...Infact,the main objective of every law is to "CONTROL".....
Just like humans made laws to control themselves,it doesnt occur to u that the Person who made the Universe has put certain Laws into place to Control His creation?

Logicboy03: WRONG!

They were never annihilated. Try again

They were Massacred many a times,their temples destroyed,Many of them taken into Captivity; which was Gods doing,and He himself said it:
Exodus 32:34 "But now go,lead the people to the place of which i have spoken to u;behold, my angel shall go before you.[color=orange]Nevertheless,in the day when i visit,i will visit their sin upon them"[/color]
Exodus32:35 "And the Lord sent a plague upon the people,because they made the calf which Aaron made..
Reading further,you will see God sent fiery serpents that killed many of them..You will see where Jerusalem was destroyed,many jews destroyed,And they were taking into captivity==>all for disobeying God..
As merciful as God is,once His appointed time for a particular thing comes,He executes...He deals in the infinite,So like u,He doesnt bother about time...

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]I was about typing that,coincidence bro,before I had to thank God for saving from an accident that I was involved in,bt now i see it as coincidence.
Foxy,come to think of it,even those known as devoted christians still suffer,they live as if they are animals,finding it hard to eat a three-square meal,finding it hard to send their children to school,finding it hard to clothe themselves.
Can you explain this to me
And I won't be pleased if you start telling me that he is giving us a test![/quote]Now i understand where you are coming from...Materialism,thats ur problem...Much tinz are better than those silly things u stated above...
You can make it in life without going to school,why is that?
You go to school,while illiterates rule u? Isnt it a pity? At the end of the day,u are stuck at home,opening hundreds of threads in Nairaland,ranting about unemployment....
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Bro,nobody who worships God in truth and in Spirit lacks!! Quote me anywhere!!
They might not be as wealthy as Dangote,but the little they have will always be enough for them,and they are happy....
If u think that eating a three square meal or sending ur children to school makes u a Rich man,you are a f.o.ol of the highest magnitude{no insults intended,just emphasis on the "fo.o.l"}....

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]I don't like being referred to some silly book you guys call bible,JOB
As I said earlier,the bible was written by some drunk,old,uneducated,poor,unfortunate idiots [/quote]Yet,it is the most circulated book of all time...Why is that?
The books written by your genius',where are they?

[quote author=Mr.T Anonymous]So someone commits crimes like the Canaanites,all I have to do is kill him,and I will go to heaven

Why can't he just change their mind,why couldn't he change their lifestyle instead of killing them(do you know there were young children who knew nothing about this and yet they were killed) [/quote]Change their mind u say? What happens to Free Will?

Alfa Seltzer: Look at this xtian intelligence answer.

Did you create your pet in your own image and likeness? Do you have conversations with your pet? Did you ask your pet to murder other pets? Have you killed any member of your family in order to save your pet from a mistake you made?

Stupid analogy.

Stu.p.i.d analysis! Did u create this Pet u are talking about? where u there when the pet was even given birth to? Its just a pet,but with time,a sort of communication wil start wit u and the pet{a dog for example}...The example u gave is nt in relation to this Discourse....
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Anyway,b4 u start attacking me,there is thread on this Religion Section "Aborisha something...........by Macof"......
He says ur dad{Satan} does nt exist...So,please Go there and help me tell the guy about Your lord and Master,Satan..

Logicboy03: Woman, have you killed somebody before? See how you just easily say the wiping out of a people is justified.

So are you saying that God is justified in wiping out Nigeria since it is infected with widespread corrutpion? If some people in a country are corrupt, does that mean that everyone (including childen) are corrupt?


The indians have been worshipping other gods long before Canaanites and co....why did God not wipe them out?

Even the isrealites at a time were not worshipping Yaweh. Why didnt he wipe them out?

Did the isrealites not engage in similar atrocities? Did they not engage in human sacrifice and genocides? Are you a slave to the isrealites?



Woman, use your brain

You are very Wrong bro...Isrealites are the Most Punished People by God in History....A look into the Bible will clear you of this error!

[quote author=Area_boy]Its freewill remember? We can say whatever d fck we want..

Think of it like this.. "god" is all powerful, all knowing, all perfect, never changing

All powerful, and he cant kill himself,

all knowing and he did not know we will turn out this way

All perfect and he needs our worship..

Never changing yet he doesnt like animal sacrifice anymore (Thats after killing himself in the form of his "son" )

Hmmmm.. sounds like a spoilt bratt if u ask me. Take the contrary of my points above, then you realise that everything we see or suffer today was his plan all along. Doesnt that make you think?

Nigerians should learn to leave the Jewish god alone.

Imagine if ancient Greece had colonised us, you all will be praising zeus and his cohorts and telling us how not to blaspheme against Hercules .

what a joke religion is [/quote]Bro,God is the God of the World,and not a Jewish "god"...
They are blessed cuz God introduced Himself to the World again through them...After all,we all have the same Ancestral father and Mother,Adam and Eve...

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Too much Movies!! The outcome of Free will...
Many humans dont even recognise the fact that outside Life,free Will is the greatest Gift God gave to mankind...
You see bro,God apart,whatever made u to start blaming Someone else for ur misfortunes shows just Weak-willed u are..A strong will alwaz learns how to overcome,and not sit in ur couch and accuse somebody u dnt see 4 ur troubles...
So,if i may ask u,How is God the cause of ur Problems?
Bro,if u are smart enough,u wil realise that life does nt give u everything u wish for...Life is only and alwaz Sweet and Wonderful in the Movies only,not in reality...But the goodnews is that life is temporal,so u should be concerned more about where ur soul will go to after you die...
This might be part of ur life trial,bt u are already failing by making accusing fingers..When you Read the Book Of Job or the story of Jabez,you wil realise ur case is a childs play.....Cheers bro,take a pill..Whatever is the problem will surely go away,cuz Change is the only Permanent thing in Life..
Since u have once believed that God exists,you will now be in self-inflicted denial and delusion to start believing He doesnt exist again..
You have to understand that Being in talking terms with God means that u wil be displeasing urself most of the time to Please God..You must be ready to displease urself,let go of those lifestyles that doesnt Give Him Glory...Well,if u think u can be living an unworthy life and still be expecting Great things from God,am sorry bro,it doesnt work that Way!!
But one thing i am 100% sure is that if u follow Gods simple instructions,you will be a happy person,regardless of the fact u are rich or Poor...This is a Being Who has Billions of angels at His beck and call!!
I will advice u to go and read the Book of Ecclesiastes and the Book of Proverbs in the Bible...They are Words of Wisdom...
Jeremiah 33:
2--"Thus says the Lord who made the world,the Lord who formed it to establish it - The Lord is His name".
3--"Call to me,and i will answer you,and will tell you Great and hidden things which you have not known"

macof: I pity you. You are the lost one, wat a wasted life and shame to your ancestors you have become

No problem,thank u.....I wont enter into a war words with u....But go to that ur thread and answer those questions i asked u there!!

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macof: ok Mr Phil lemme come down to your level. the story is untrue right? It's jst a myth and myths are lies right? nothing about the Yoruba story is true right?. Yes Yes and Yes would be ur answers.

Of course...You even used cartoon to depict ur gods....smh!!

The story of Adam and eve is a Jewish myth.

if its a myth,it made more sense than some piece of junky Obatala who came to create man and got drunk...Which got me asking,where does the wine come from?

The story of a Messiah coming to redeem the world is a myth

At least,our Messiah came down to earth,the people saw Him,and recorded about him without ifa's aid,and His stories are all over the place,winning souls for Himself..

The story about satan is a myth

Even Satanists will prove u wrong...Dont worry,i wil invite one of the Satanists in Nairaland to come and enlighten u..You are just ignorant..

The story about The garden of Eden is a myth

A simple click of google wil clear ur ignorance on this..

The story of God coming down to mt Sinai to personally give the commandments to Moses is a myth

If at all you know anything about that story,you wont be displaying your ignorance in public like this...

The story about the tower of Babel is a myth

How did Yoruba language come about?

The story of the whole 6days creation is a myth

6days? Now i know your ignorance is highly irreparable...You dont know about the creation story,so STFU!!

The whole Bible is a myth

Yet your own people are buying into it..So much for the sweet Paganism u proclaim!!

But you believe it to be true

Am sure you do not understand wat am trying to say but here's the dope The Bible is untrue

And Yet Your People are Running away from ur Sweet Ifa and Sango and Osun,and the other things u worship?

macof: oh my God I cry for u. You dnt know anything abt the religion, you are just talking out of ignorance.

The statement you give above best describes Islam and christianity, not paganism.

Pagan gods don't ask for worship, they do not need your worship, if u like give dem sacrifice if u don't like don't give them, dats the individual's problem.

The gods go around doing their duty for the universe, but any time u choose to worship and give sacrifice to them they would answer you. The purpose for worshipping them as some pagans do is to gain favor, and if you feel you don't need their help your Ori can always be your help, provided u grow in knowledge and wisdom and keep a neutral balance in ur life.

But the Christians and muslim God orders you to worship him, if you dont worship him you would go to hell. That's a demon, a demon dat sends people to hell unless you worship him, it's nt like you won't still go to hell after all the worshipping.
he would tell you how to worship him
He would tell u how many times you worship
He would tell you to worship him without doubt. Isn't that suspicious?
Jehovah or Yahweh, the God of the Bible is the actual satan, and his angels with Jesus as their chief are the demons

I pity you!! You are trully lost,but i will always pray for you!!

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macof: No you don't you don't understand anything about Yoruba religion. A few posts above you claim the gods are mere wooden images now you say they are demons. Why changing mind? You looking for any possible way to degrade the religion.
And if I am to follow wat you posted here, Jesus is the demon and jehovah is satan, because they are the ones that say u must worship them, it's them that needs ur worship, they found gullible hunans like you and used your fear against you and forced you to worship them.

Imagine u saying that Jehovah didn't take out their powers, why so? He is their leader, the big boss himself, satan is just the ambassador taking instructions from your God

Dont misquote me..I said u worship carved wooden sticks...You worship this wooden stick bcus so so so ritual has been performed on it,calling on a particular god to come and make that place his/her abode,and then u believe that the aforementioned gods is their spiritually...
But i am telling u that these ur gods are fallen angels,who crave for worship like their maker...
They cling on ur fears,and use them against u,making u believe that if u dont do them,you will be punished....How is that?

macof: No you don't you don't understand anything about Yoruba religion. A few posts above you claim the gods are mere wooden images now you say they are demons. Why changing mind? You looking for any possible way to degrade the religion.
And if I am to follow wat you posted here, Jesus is the demon and jehovah is satan, because they are the ones that say u must worship them, it's them that needs ur worship, they found gullible hunans like you and used your fear against you and forced you to worship them.

Imagine u saying that Jehovah didn't take out their powers, why so? He is their leader, the big boss himself, satan is just the ambassador taking instructions from your God

Dont misquote me..I said u worship carved wooden sticks...You worship this wooden stick bcus so so so ritual has been performed on it,calling on a particular god to come and make that place his/her abode,and then u believe that the aforementioned gods is their spiritually...
But i am telling u that these ur gods are fallen angels,who crave for worship like their maker...
They cling on ur fears,and use them against u,making u believe that if u dont do them,you will be punished....How is that?

macof: well that's left for u. But don't degrade my religion, or derail the thread

it is nt left for me,but rather 4 u to realise ur mistake...Thats how every definition describes Myth...Anything Myth is untrue!! No dictionary in this world will tel u that Myth is a true story...So y are u neckbent on living an untrue life?

Ambivert.

macof: well if you choose to stay. You are welcome but don't derail the thread.

And I have told you the meaning of myth- it means story told by ancient civilizations. It doesn't mean fake or true. The bible itself is a myth, so stop showing ur lack of education here.

Orunmila a da e l'ogbon, Ase!

You are in denial....Myth is a story that is untrue...UNTRUE in the capital!