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macof: Jesus is dead and gone....deal with it. Jesus is even less a thing than the Yoruba orishas

macof: It's christianity dat is worshipping devil.
We don't even recognize any devil

*hiss* why do u always show your lack of knowledge? Instead of you too ask questions. I post a link to you, so you could understand what the Yoruba religion is about, but you still swim in stupidity and lack of knowledge. I shouldn't blame u anyway, you are not Yoruba assuming u were I would have serious questions for you.

But I would correct your errors because am such a nice guy

1. We don't worship devil, You are not the one to tell me wat we worship, when you don't even understand wat you are rebuking. We worship gods but these gods who take our case before the supreme God. Much like ur belief of Jesus taking ur case before God. You know the truth is that Jesus is your god, so if you accuse us of worshipping the devil because we worship sango and ogun then I'll accuse u of worshiping the devil for worshipping Jesus.
2. This guy, pls try to read and understand things, Ifa isn't a book, it's a divination system. where did you hear dat Ifa has a book? The babalawos are required to memorize the 256 verses of odu Ifa orally. I don't know if by now the babalawo training is done with the odu Ifa written but back in the old days they were taught the verses Orally.
3. The Bible is only 1200 years, Ifa's age cannot be figured out. Ancient Egyptians used Ifa, Ifa has always been part of Yoruba paganism it starts with the Yoruba race and it seems the Yorubas have a connection with the ancient Egyptians, making it even harder to assimilate when Ifa came to existence. Ifa cannot copy anything from that piece of paper

macof: I hope you are done talking rubbish. Now if u don't have anything reasonable to add in the topic of discussion, which is Ifa and the yoruba spiritual belief you can just un-follow the thread. Because I see you are not born to have knowledge.
Am still going to open a thread to bash your useless christianity, maybe then we can talk.

macof: I hope you are done talking rubbish. Now if u don't have anything reasonable to add in the topic of discussion, which is Ifa and the yoruba spiritual belief you can just un-follow the thread. Because I see you are not born to have knowledge.
Am still going to open a thread to bash your useless christianity, maybe then we can talk.

macof: you seem to understand the devil really well, even better than God. you believe in the devil, I don't. No one is capable of rebelling against God, dat is just so stupid to believe in a devil dat is against God.

And u shouldn't provoke me by affiliating my religion to ur devil, and stop insulting my gods, I dont want to start insulting Jesus. And are u by any chance saying my ancestors are devils?
eranko bi ti e, omo osi, olori buruku bi ti e, ma sa da nu bi mi, o ma da ko l'ogbon die.

macof: 1. Satan doesn't exist, at least in my life and Mt religion he doesn't-so absurd to believe, an angel would rebel against God. No one is capable of rebelling against God, it's impossible
2. Christianity is really making ur brain rotten, how is using technology, embracing another man culture?
3. Everybody is a child of God, there's no such thing as only son, that's something for dogs to believe. I am a son of God
4. Where have you noticed me painting my paganism? This guy has a low IQ. Have you seen me denying paganism?
5. So I don't need anything to mediate with God? Hypocritical fool, wat do u do with the dead jew called yeshua? If you say I don't need gods to reach God, I believe u because even Ifa supports dat, God is already in us, we just need to grow in spirit. But the same applies with the dead Jew, he is dead and gone, he has even forgotten that he promised to come back(dats if he ever planned to come for lame brain Christians of this generation or any generation)
6. The Devil you know doesn't exist, and Men are the rulers of the world
7. Tradition and culture is a pair, every ethnic group has both. So if u are too loose headed to figure that out you had better back off
8. Can u explain satanism? because I knw u still don't understand paganism having read through this thread but now explain satanism.let's see why you call paganism satanism
9. Pls Wat religion blinds the worshipers? Answer: Christianity.
one principle of christianity is to believe without doubt, exclude intelligence let your Bible think for you. Is that not sheepish? We buy rams and cocks to sacrifice but isn't it us that eats the meat? Did you read what I wrote about animal sacrifice on this thread? Am sure you read nothing, even if you did, you understand nothing, your brain is poo and you prove me right over and over again. wait a minute, does your God not collect animal sacrifice? he even requests for human sacrifice, or you don't really read your piece of compiled paper called Bible where you God instructed Israelites to make sacrifice of all kind to him,and am sure if he could ask Abraham for human sacrifice, he would have asked so many people which the compilers of the Bible refused to add

macof: According to Yoruba myth,
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macof: The way u think am stupid to believe this religion is little compared to wat I think of you for believing christianity



Ifa doesn't do phone calls, Ifa is high in omnisence and omnipotence.
I use a cell phone cause it's technology, I use my money to buy it, using European technology doesn't make me slave to them, it's unlike u dat behave like dem, and life to die for anything they tell u.

Yorubaland has been producing it's own clothes before European contact, Wat do u think Adire and Ankara is about? Abi it's ur masters dat gave us material to use? We have been making our own dye in many colors, and mixing materials to form a blend for over 1000 yrs

yes they are huts made with clay, irons and bamboo but they are usually done according to your status. go to Ile-ife or Ilesha in Osun state you would see nice huts done in different patterns, size and comfortable conditions all according to status of the individual.

Again this is technology, the internet and phone is jst a new aged advancement in science it has nothing to do with religion, or submission to the will of men

And times without number Pagan 9ja and I have tried to explain our religions to you but you Christians are too dumb to understand- wooden images are idols nt gods, gods are spiritual/natural forces that take charge of the universe under the instructions of the supreme God. The wooden images are made by men but these gods are made by God, we worship the gods, bow and place sacrifice in front of the idol knowing that the god is nt physical but use the idols as a physical item to feel at ease, Imagine worshiping something u can't see u have to make something u can see to represent him. it's like a case of you being apart from your loved one, maybe ur wife but you use her picture to make u remember and think of her, you feel more at ease just seeing her face though the picture.

macof: have u ever heard of Orisa Ibeji? Am sure u haven't. They are a pair of the same entity, responsible for twins. There was never any record of killing of twins in yorubaland, although banishment was a regular punishment. When the Orisa came to earth as the twin children of Osun and Sango, the people thought badly of Osun and in order for her not to lose her place she banished them herself, but her rival wife Oba took care of the twins and they were a great blessing to the Yorubas since then twins have been cherished in yorubaland, and the time alaafin kori banished his twin sons calamity befell him and his throne until he died-a punishment from Orisa Ibeji. Ever since then it became part of our culture to call twins Taiwo ati Kehinde after the names of Orisa Ibeji.
All this happened over 700 yrs before European contact. So I wonder where u got ur information that the Europeans stopped killing of twins in Yorubaland.

The way u think am stupid to believe this religion is little compared to wat I think of you for believing christianity



Ifa doesn't do phone calls, Ifa is high in omnisence and omnipotence.
I use a cell phone cause it's technology, I use my money to buy it, using European technology doesn't make me slave to them, it's unlike u dat behave like dem, and life to die for anything they tell u.

Yorubaland has been producing it's own clothes before European contact, Wat do u think Adire and Ankara is about? Abi it's ur masters dat gave us material to use? We have been making our own dye in many colors, and mixing materials to form a blend for over 1000 yrs

yes they are huts made with clay, irons and bamboo but they are usually done according to your status. go to Ile-ife or Ilesha in Osun state you would see nice huts done in different patterns, size and comfortable conditions all according to status of the individual.

Again this is technology, the internet and phone is jst a new aged advancement in science it has nothing to do with religion, or submission to the will of men

And times without number Pagan 9ja and I have tried to explain our religions to you but you Christians are too dumb to understand- wooden images are idols nt gods, gods are spiritual/natural forces that take charge of the universe under the instructions of the supreme God. The wooden images are made by men but these gods are made by God, we worship the gods, bow and place sacrifice in front of the idol knowing that the god is nt physical but use the idols as a physical item to feel at ease, Imagine worshiping something u can't see u have to make something u can see to represent him. it's like a case of you being apart from your loved one, maybe ur wife but you use her picture to make u remember and think of her, you feel more at ease just seeing her face though the picture.

ravgach: From the little I know about Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in our own image, the clause there in original text is "Elohim" meaning the "Strong Ones". This suggests that God consulted the Godhead before making man. This is supported by Genesis 5:1-2 "When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. 2He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind”a when they were created". This passage throws away the suggestion that the Father was consulting with Angels. Are we made in the likeness of angels?

Jesus is the Almighty God. “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:

Those who are calling Jesus a 'god' are ignorant. The Bible describes mankind as gods. The Bible also calls Satan the god of this world.
"..The god of this world..." 2 Corinthians 4:4. "...Ye are gods... John 10:30-33; Ps 82:6

Why are they reducing Jesus to this level? The devil is fighting His Divinity. We are not deceived because we know satan's devices. We
take the testimony of God the Father concerning Jesus "But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever..." Hebrews 1:8; Ps 45:6

The word "Trinity" is not found in the Bible but the word "Godhead" is littered in Scripture:

Colossians 2:9 says, “...For in him [Jesus] dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.”

Acts 17:29 "We ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device..."

Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead..."

A lot of us confuse the Person of Jesus really because of is peculiar nature. Jesus is completely Man. He is also Completely Divine.
Sometime Jesus makes statements as a mere man and those who are lettered in spiritual matter will capitalize that to say He is not
Divine. At another time He says and does things that only the Divine can do and some others are confused also. If you know the dual personality of the Lord Jesus, you will have no difficulty understanding fully who He really is. But can we really know God completely? Can you by searching find out God? can you find out the limits of the Almighty? ... Job 11:.7 My answer is sincerely No. But from the glimpse of what has been revealed, Jesus is nothing less than Divinity. Jesus is God!

macof: It is Better for me to deceive myself with wat my ancestors have believed, then to deceive myself wit wat the Jews believe.

myth" simply means story- it doesn't mean true story, or fake story, or imagined story. It is a word used for ancient stories by various ethnic groups, including greeks, jews, Yoruba, Igbo, Egypt etc. I am Yoruba and I rather be foolish to believe be a Yoruba, than to be foolish being a Yoruba but believe to be a Jew.

you should know dat the stories in Genesis 1-11 are are based on the original Jewish myth. Only Jews believe Adam and eve. And all dat crap you read in Genesis 1.

I am Yoruba and blindly in love with my people, culture, religion, tradition, music, fashion, language etc. I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world, unlike u that have lost ur birth right to ur Jews and European masters

macof: yeah but still more reasonable than your half baked Jewish religion called christianity

JMAN05: show me where he was hiding it then or are you Jesus?

Like i said before, the bible doesnt support that claim. you are the one teaching what christ never taught, never implied, never claimed to be etc.

repent.

JMAN05: then what you mean is not hypocrite. choose anothe word.

I repeat, he was'nt hiding that he was God almighty, he is not.

macof: ah!!!!! s'o fe pa mi ni?. so u mean to tell me dat jesus didnt come for the Jews, He came for Africans abi? so why didnt he preach in Africa? the only time he entered Africa was when he was running for his life . ur God dey run for em life . Jesus didn't even know any where in west Africa existed, I wonder if your ethnic group were already in their present location then but dat doesn't matter. He came to this world to save sinners, not the Jews, so jews are not sinners they are perfect humans? see how u have sold ur sense for 2kobo

macof: So u admit that the Jews are not even fanatics of their God and his worship, but you a non Jew takes this seriously with ur life. Am sorry for u, doomed to be mentally enslaved forever

JMAN05: this is not talking about him being almighty God, is it? or his disciples knew he was almighty? are his disciples not persons?

macof: shuttup u 1diot. This world would have been a better place without Islam and wat do u think the world would be without Christianity?
Did your fathers tell u they were waiting for any messiah, instead of u to leave those that have a problem to seek their solution, u are sharing in their problem. even the jews that preached about a messiah dont believe in him. Go to Israel, I bet u can count the amount of Christians in a LGA with your hands.
U have no right to attack a muslim, U both are just a wasted life