Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 6:42pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
DeepSight: The problem will be where the simple explanation you are giving actually is meaningless concerning the problem being discussed and actually is used as an escapist line to avoid attempting a serious answer especially because you know there is none. When you're asking a test question, then it is no longer a discussion. You want a particular answer. Suppose, I fail to articulate in a language and syntax you want, does that automatically my position wrong and yours right ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 6:37pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
Moremii: Yes, the atomic structure is well-documented. It is also teachable, but neither of that is the point. What you've missed here apparently is that the mechanisms that are responsible for instinctual behavior are largely unexplained at the fundamental level and so therefore, are not readily available in standard evolutionary literature. So practically, you're just assuming the existence of comprehensive scientific understanding where there is none. How do complex behavioral algorithms emerge from molecular processes? How do organisms access environmental information they've never encountered?
Are we going to sit here and pretend like these puzzles have been solved?
The problem with you reductionists is that your intellectual cowardice always seems to elude you lot. When it comes to evolution, Google, ChatGPT and all the other resources you half-heartedly name-dropped only document the statistical link between behaviors and reproductive success, not the actual mechanisms through which the information about the environment is encoded in genetic sequences and accessed by our consciousness.
I'm going to go out on a leg here and assert here that you haven't even properly examined the so-called explanations you've been lazily citing because if you truly did, I don't think it should cost you anything to just articulate them, even if in just two short paragraphs. It is not my job to educate you on this forum on the subjects of microbiology, biochemistry, DNA replication or Protein Synthesis. These are complex disciplines themselves with a lot of branches and sub-branches. My dear. You're a jjc in this debate. Many many years ago, we trashed out these issues on this very forum. The problem I have is when you yourself have insufficient knowledge on a subject , you expect that it is the obligation of your debate opponent to teach you that subject. If you want to understand Protein Synthesis and how it is intertwined with evolution and natural selection, the information is fully in the public domain. I repeat, it is not my job to make you understand it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 4:43pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
DeepSight: "Sex continues to reign as the ultimate conundrum, the queen of problems, in evolutionary biology. Accounting for its origin in terms of evolutionary rationale is inevitably doomed to failure. As David Tyler recently remarked, “Time and time again, Darwinists fill the gaps in knowledge with their theoretical models, but sooner or later, the next generation of scholars will realise that Darwinists have constructed a virtual world that does not match the real world revealed by research.”
https://evolutionnews.org/2011/07/spinning_fanciful_tales_about_/
Sex, the Queen of Problems in Evolutionary Biology Jonathan McLatchie
Dr. Jonathan McLatchie holds a Bachelor's degree in Forensic Biology from the University of Strathclyde, a Masters (M.Res) degree in Evolutionary Biology from the University of Glasgow, a second Master's degree in Medical and Molecular Bioscience from Newcastle University, and a PhD in Evolutionary Biology from Newcastle University. Previously, Jonathan was an assistant professor of biology at Sattler College in Boston, Massachusetts. Jonathan has been interviewed on podcasts and radio shows including "Unbelievable?" on Premier Christian Radio, and many others. Jonathan has spoken internationally in Europe, North America, South Africa and Asia promoting the evidence of design in nature.
@ FreeIgboho - you are free to examine the credentials of this man and say whether he is childlike in his conclusions. Of course there are sticky issues and questions about the complexity of evolution. The very fact that we have these nagging questions does not in any way contradict the core theory. Rather is only encourages us to continue to seek scientifically rational answers. Theory of evolution is not a complete A to Z package, because it is not dogma . In fact, similar theories such as the the Atomic theory, Gravitational theory and Germ Theory are scientifically accepted ideas for which ongoing work continues. Science is a series of Questions, with one answer always leading to new questions. Everyday, new scientific advances continue to peer in and answer nagging questions of yesteryears. Like I said earlier, if you have a scientifically rational explanation for these nagging questions, we are open to hearing it. What we will not accept is the God of the Gaps answers. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 4:31pm On Jul 05, 2025 |
Moremii: But this is a double standard. You can't seriously resign yourself to giving "simple answers" and still be demanding scientific justification from other people. It's either you explain the mechanism or just admit that you're ignorant. I disagree. For example. Atom is the smallest indivisible particle of matter. That is the simple, elementary definition of an atom. Now, just because I offer that simple definition does not oblige me to give you a more detailed degree course on atomic theory. You have schools ,science books, Google and chatgpt easily available tools to enrich your knowledge on the subject. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 11:57am On Jul 05, 2025 |
DeepSight: That's not evolution.
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I didn't say that particular instance was evolution. That's learning and adaptation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 11:39am On Jul 05, 2025 |
FreeIgboho: *Please, what have I said about Jesus you don't consider rational?
The first ancestors didn't do the same thing. Very few did. That's why it took millions of years. Example, I'm sure there were humans who never got hungry but of course they quickly died out. Now it seems all humans always got hungry. Nature supplies vast varieties, then through trial and error the "best" traits survive, which makes it seem that's all there ever was or like it was intentionally so from the beginning Thank you. Evolution does not go straight to the point where a species attains maximum traits for survival. It meanders in all directions first until unsuitable traits are weeded out and suitable ones are adopted. Once it hits that 1 in billion lottery, it locks it into the genetic memory, and then seeks the next optimum survival traits. I watch a tube video about certain experiment with forest monkeys. According the report, if you teach a few monkeys in a selected portion of the forest a new trick that is beneficial to them,for example, a more efficiently way to pluck out and eat a fruit, in about a week time , the monkeys on the other side of forest would all be using the new skill. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 5:20am On Jul 05, 2025 |
DeepSight: Its easy to simply just write that. Oh, they evolve the trait for survival. Have you asked how?
I used two specific examples. Tell me how exactly the pup knows that there are breasts at all it should seek. Remember it is new born. It supposedly knows nothing. It has never even seen its mother.
If you say "inbuilt instincts" who or what buillt those instincts. If you say it was by evolution, how did its ancestors derive that knowledge or instinct as well?
Tell me how exactly the newly hatched turtle knows of the sea. And that it must head there. Remember it is newly hatched. What did you know two seconds after you were born?
I find it tiresome the way strict materialist evolutionists just use easy language to dismiss real questions. They evolve instincts for survival. I said how, in these instances. Tell how. Its so easy to just say.
Tell how.
PS: There is actually a suitable answer to this question. I want to see if you put your finger on it and we can discuss from there. The reason we give these simple answers are based on elementary understanding of the slow ,complex and tedious process of evolution. Surely sire, you don't expect me to give a PhD level lecture on how survival instincts are hardwired into genes of living species. There is no such thing as a ' suitable ' answer. Answers have to have core scientific basis in order to be considered as plausible. Now, if you have a good, scientific explanation for how little puppies find their mother's ripples, then please share it. We would all be certainly enriched by the knowledge. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Inexplicable Instincts by plaetton: 10:10pm On Jul 04, 2025 |
Every living creature has or should I say, evolves inbuilt instincts to seek whatever is necessary for its survival. So I'm not sure what you mean by ' inexplicable' .
Do you assume that adding ' inexplicable ' to a trait confers intelligent design or divine provenance to such a trait? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Netenyahu Has Been Humbled. He Is Now Very Quiet And Meek by plaetton: 1:15am On Jun 30, 2025 |
DeadCountry: Iran said on Tuesday that at least 610 civilians had been k.il.le.d and more than 4,700 wounded in the Islamic Republic since the start of the w@r with Israel on June 13.
“They are all civilians,” health ministry spokesman Hossein Kermanpour said, announcing the increase from the previously reported toll of more than 400 dead and 3,056 wounded.
https://punchng.com/iran-reports-610-deaths-4700-wounded-in-12-days-of-israeli-strikes/
WHO WON THIS WAR IN YOUR OWN ACCESSMENT? The country that starts the war with an certain objective can only claim victory when the objective is completed. If the set objectives are not achieved, then that nation lost the war. On the other hand, the nation that was attacked and then defended itself and therefore prevented the invading nation from achieving their military objectives has the right to declare itself victorious. Whereas Israel emerged from the war shell-shocked, confused, military reputation badly wounded,and mocked by the entire world and divided,Iran has gained international sympathy, respect, bolder and united . Therefore, Iran convincingly won the 12 days war. W |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Netenyahu Has Been Humbled. He Is Now Very Quiet And Meek by plaetton: 1:06am On Jun 30, 2025*. Modified: 2:57pm On Jun 30, 2025 |
ObaOfYorubaLand: I don't know why it's only Yorubas that are wailing for Iran. Isreal no be your mate.
They've achieved their objective of the war without even firing a single missile into Iran, that's how you know a powerful name and not terrorists republic of Iran and Nigeria where human lives are worthless as they kill citizens and civilians with reckless abandon. They achieved nothing. In fact, the apartheid enclave only managed to expose the lies and myths that underpined their military strength. |
Celebrities › Re: Most People In The UK Are Broke - Reality TV Star, Tacha by plaetton: 11:38am On Jun 25, 2025 |
ovie8200: Then why she is still there? She's suppose to return back to where she came from. Waiting, she's describing them broke because no one spend free money on her so that she go back to Nigeria to form a big girl. Which means she is broke as well. Exactly. You said it well. She probably went there expecting to mooch on the sweat of other people. Her delusions of entitlement is not working out in the UK. |
Celebrities › Re: Most People In The UK Are Broke - Reality TV Star, Tacha by plaetton: 11:34am On Jun 25, 2025 |
GeneralPula: Uk
Canada
Both are overrated. USA is the only country that stand alone and better..
Countries like Denmark, Swiss are way better than UK and Canada combined.. Funny that citizens of a failed state are rating the quality of life of foreign countries , which, ironically, their fathers and grandfathers woefully failed to build for their generation. |
Celebrities › Re: Most People In The UK Are Broke - Reality TV Star, Tacha by plaetton: 11:31am On Jun 25, 2025 |
LadyExcellency: Life is not just about the amount in your bank account; it's about the quality of life and security, freedom from intimidation, and access to healthcare. Don't mind the silly girl who has probably not earned an honest living in her life. She forgot to mention the percentage of the Nigerian population that can barely havd one good meal in a day. If she was rich in Nigeria, then what exactly is she doing in the UK? Is she conducting a quality of life experiment? |
Politics › Re: I Nearly Contested For President After June 12 Struggle — Soyinka by plaetton: 10:44am On Jun 17, 2025 |
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Business › Re: Lagos Attracts $13 Trillion In Global Investments In Six Years" - Sanwo-olu by plaetton: 1:38pm On May 14, 2025 |
Racoon: 13 trillion dollars? I mean how Mr Sanwo-Olu? Meanwhile, where are these investments? Even Nigeria's GDP is not even up to $300B. So how did you arrived at this bogus figure?
Even IMF Have told the FG that it proposed 1T investment drive is not feasible given the abysmal rate the Nigerian economy is progressing. So abeg dey lie small small. I wonder o 🤔 If Nigeria as a whole had $13 trillion in investments over the last 10 years, Nigeria would be 2nd or 3rd largest economy in the world. |
Politics › Re: God Has Revealed Three Persons Who Can Stop Tinubu In 2027—primate Ayodele by plaetton: 8:53pm On May 11, 2025 |
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Politics › Re: "Nigeria First": Trade Your Escalade For Innoson Motors - Atiku Tells Tinubu by plaetton: 12:43pm On May 07, 2025 |
[quote author=etokhana post=135269637][/quote]Very good one Atiku. The federal government should lead by example and compel states to do the same. If all federal government agencies, including the presidency,should buy locally made vehicles, it would add hundreds of billions to the economy, strengthen job creation and strengthen the Naira by saving foreign exchange. Most importantly, it would set a very strong message that would emulated by the private sector. It would also be a lasting political currency and legacy that the presidency can cash on in future election cycles. |
Business › Re: Enugu Traders Count Losses As Beans Prices Crash by plaetton: 4:47pm On May 03, 2025 |
zero8zero: There's a big difference between storage and hoarding. Half-baked graduates everywhere. No there is not. You're obviously not a business person and probably never done any business before. Every merchant hopes to sell products whenever it is most profitable. If crayfish is cheapest during the rainy season and most expensive during the dry season, a crayfish merchant would be absolute mor.on not to buy low in the rainy season and sell high during the dry season. This is common sense, this is universal, this practice goes all the way back to the very beginning of commerce in the human march of civilization. |
Business › Re: Enugu Traders Count Losses As Beans Prices Crash by plaetton: 2:33pm On May 03, 2025 |
TallNigerian: You are thieves and deserve all the losses and more. God will continue to punish all of you. Greedy merchants and middlemen. Senseless hoarders.
Every part of the bolded statement reeks of enormous greed, selfishness, wickedness and any other name evil assumes. Mo.ron. I guess you were sleeping during basic economics and commerce class in junior secondary school. If there were no middle mean and merchants to stock and store seasonal foods and grains, malnutrition would have killed you long before you were able to articulate your first thought. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ugandan Leader Built Church After Six Month Cancer Treatment In Germany by plaetton: 6:54pm On Apr 30, 2025 |
[quote author=TouchNfollow post=135175303] African leaders.
Was it the Useless church that treated him ?
Why couldn't he have built a hospital or even a cancer screening center . |
Crime › Re: Court Sentences Late Gospel Singer Osinachi’s Husband To Death By Hanging by plaetton: 5:10pm On Apr 28, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: SA City Bans Pastor Timothy Omotoso From Preaching Anywhere by plaetton: 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2025 |
nairalanda1: Yeah, I am suspicious of the guy, but he was acquitted by a court of law. And that superceeds any suspicions I may have of him.
As much as I oppose female abuse, at the end of the day, the Law has said he is not guilty. I admire the Mayor's desire to stand up for what is right, but the guy was acquitted.
There is a reason why we got courts. That he was acquited only means that they would not send him to jail for the rest of his life. His acquital does not in anyway absolve him of the suspicion of being a danger to the public, especially vulnerable young women. If the courts failed his many victims, then the state officials have the obligation to put a secondary safety net for their young women. The action was correct and necessary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Was Killed By The COVID-19 Vaccine – Chris Oyakhilome Claims (Video by plaetton: 1:27pm On Apr 27, 2025 |
DeepSight: Some are not so bad. Jainism and pure Buddhism for example?
I suspect it's mostly the Abrahamic religions you are despising so much. Yes, the Abrahamic religions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Was Killed By The COVID-19 Vaccine – Chris Oyakhilome Claims (Video by plaetton: 11:40am On Apr 27, 2025*. Modified: 1:27pm On Apr 27, 2025 |
Righthussle: You're telling us the truth just as you told us that the cause of covid 19 was 5G network that was introduced in China.
I just wonder how 21st century humans will spend their precious time listening to someone like you and even give you their hard earned money and think in their minds that they have given their money to the force or being behind the existence of the universe. Everyday, I find more and more reasons to despise religion. A Poison that eats away the human brain bit by bit. |
Politics › Re: Is Femi Fani-Kayode Now A Pastor? (Photos) by plaetton: 2:29am On Apr 08, 2025*. Modified: 12:49am On Apr 11, 2025 |
Not surprising that narcissistic sociopaths like FFK and Reno Omokri, both political jobbers and political runs girls, moonlight as Religious clerics. It goes with narcissistic personalities. There is something embedded in their psyches. |
Politics › Re: Sen. Orji Uzor Kalu Is A Tool God Is Using To Develop Abia North — Rev. Elekwa by plaetton: 1:54am On Apr 08, 2025 |
Smartwave: I don't understand, the way southeast people reason again? This man spent 8 years as Governor with nothing serious to show. It's not a South east thing. Sycophants and praise singer are to be found in every nook and cranny of Nigeria. Again, Stockholm's syndrome is a real thing. |
Politics › Re: Sen. Orji Uzor Kalu Is A Tool God Is Using To Develop Abia North — Rev. Elekwa by plaetton: 1:52am On Apr 08, 2025 |
MightyCJ: Senator Orji Uzor Kalu Is A Tool God Is Using To Develop Abia North — Rev. Elekwa
Reverend Samson Okoro Elekwa, a respected cleric of the Baptist Church, has hailed Senator Orji Uzor Kalu, describing him as “Abia’s greatest gift from God” and “a divine instrument” through whom God is transforming Abia North Senatorial District.
Speaking to newsmen, the cleric commended Senator Kalu’s impressive strides in rural infrastructure, particularly citing the construction of roads in Ndi Orieke, Ohafia LGA, and Amannagwu, Arochukwu LGA, along with over 80 other roads across the district.
“The road in Ndi Orieke, Ohafia, and the one in Amannagwu, Arochukwu, are just a few among the many life-changing projects Senator Orji Uzor Kalu has brought to our people,” Rev. Elekwa said. “He didn’t just talk; he acted. These roads have opened up our communities and empowered our farmers, traders, and transporters. For me, this is real empowerment—far better than sharing wrappers or giving out small cash.”
Reverend Elekwa highlighted several other communities that have benefited from Kalu’s leadership, including Atan Abam, Alayi, Ezeukwu, Ndi Inya Abam, Isu, Umuzomgbo, Itumbauzo, Okoko Item, Nneato, Akanu Ohafia, and Abia Ohafia.
“Kalu is not only building roads, he is building hope, restoring pride, and empowering generations. We must acknowledge and protect this legacy,” he added.
Taking a firm stand against those criticizing the senator, the cleric described detractors as “political jobbers and sponsored nonentities.”
“Those attacking Senator Kalu are jobless noise-makers who have never brought a single block to their communities. They are threatened by his success and are trying to distract him. But they will fail,” he stated.
Reverend Elekwa urged the people of Abia North and the entire South East to rally behind Senator Kalu, describing him as a beacon of leadership, vision, and grassroots development.
“The South East needs leaders like Kalu—bold, generous, and development-driven. I urge our people to stand with him and ignore those who only know how to criticize without results,” he concluded. Apparently, God forgot to use him to develop the entire Abia state when he was governor. I guess God must have advised him to loot now and develop later. |
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Council Will Hold Meetings On The Moon – Adeboye (Video) by plaetton: 8:02pm On Apr 05, 2025 |
bookson: That's called faith - believing God and exalting His word. The word doesn't have to make sense before believing it. Of course, common sense is not required to understand religious things. So , when you build your entire worldview on religious dogma, then your life , as you live it, cannot ever make sense. As a man thinketh, so he lives. No wonder the most religious nation on Earth, Nigeria,is a basket case. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Calls Tariffs "Economic Revolution", Says China The Most Hit Country. by plaetton: 7:38pm On Apr 05, 2025 |
GRACEGLORY: . While the tariff strategy aims to address global imbalances and encourage other countries to offer the best deals to the U.S, it also sets the stage for the president to implement the largest tax cuts that he promised the Americans.
I believe Mr. President got a plan. Again, this is just another irrational excuse to justify the whimsical and dangerous actions of a meglomaniac. Every single trading relationship the US has with other nations were specifically and deliberately crafted by the US for the benefit of the US. The US economy is greatest beneficiary of the current global trading arrangement. So it doesn't make sense that they are complaining of unfair trade. US economic power comes from these trade arrangements that makes everything available and cheap for US consumers. This is what every empire in history dreams of and fights to attain. That Donald Trump is trying dismantle the underpinnings of US economic power and dominance is baffling,..unless he is on mission to do just that. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Calls Tariffs "Economic Revolution", Says China The Most Hit Country. by plaetton: 6:45pm On Apr 05, 2025 |
GRACEGLORY: That's not the case.
Trump is trying to accelerate the impact of the interest rates by using tariffs as a form of pressure. This tactic is to finish what the hike in rates is expected to do, that's why he's pushing the Federal Reserve to lower rates now to prevent a recession from the combined effects. While the tariff strategy aims to address global imbalances and encourage other countries to offer the best deals to the U.S, it also sets the stage for the president to implement the largest tax cuts that he promised the Americans.
I believe Mr. President got a plan. Respectfully, this economic illiteracy at its worse. If you are parroting this nonsense from someone else,pls cease immediately. It makes you look like a slowpoke. Number 1. When you destroy $10trillion from the economy in a whim, and then tell yourself you're just trying to prevent a recession? Nonsense. The federal reserve was already poised to lower interest rates at its next meeting this month. They didn't need to destroy the US economy and drag the entire world just to persuade the fed to reduce interest rates. That's nonsense and comical. Pls cease and desist from parroting this low IQ nonsense in public. |