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DeepSight:
Breeze through the posts I highlighted above pls. The argument I sought to make is that we can logically infer that our minds are not constructs of matter alone.

I don't need to read the post to be able to refute the argument that mind is this or that.
It's like saying that information is independent of the source.
Brain ( matter) generates consciousness ( mind). Consciousness is not independent of the brain that generates it. A foetus becomes conscious only when the electrical activity in the brain reaches a certain voltage threshold.
Consciousness, a.k.a mind, is the product of electrical activity in the physical brain.
Brain injuries in different parts of the brain helps us to understand how mind, reality and perspective are controlled by the physical brain.
Even the ' spiritual experience ' is housed and controlled and affected by a certain portion of the brain.

Pls read up on Temporal Lobe Epilepsy and the Religious experience.

DeepSight:
Did you participate in this thread with Lordreed and I?

https://www.nairaland.com/6942843/matter-mind

No I didn't. I wasn't even aware of it.

Versitee:
I don't think the existence of God should be a debate. You can't look at the universe and think you can observe God.

God is a spirit, not a scientific fact.

That is the issue. Everything else can be explained by science (or almost everything)

So why can't God.

The debate here is that every Nigerian believes in God. Every God believer believes that God is the architect of their fortunes, personal and collective. Every God believing Nigerian prays multiples times a day from childhood to old age.
Churches and Mosques pray multiple times each day and night. Offerings, vigils, tithes, seed sowing, evangelism are all done to beseech and placate a God that is expected to acknowledge, bless and protect the faithful.
Faith, worship, offerings , prayers, etc, are deemed spiritual investments from which celestial dividends are expected, and much much needed in this darkest hour of Nigeria's checkered existence.

If faith and worship are spiritual investments, at what point in our personal and national life do we put a stop loss , cut our losses, and perhaps begin to consider other investment options?

For goodness sake, Nigeria's investment in the God stock has plummeted in value over the past 200yrs (?) to zero.

What gives ?

DeepSight:
It is not by mistake that "physics" as a word is a derivative of "physical." Thus the science of physics can only address the physical world.
There is reality beyond, before and after the physical.

The physical is not even as real as the non-physical.

Sounds quite sweet and romantic as a belief, to soothe our anxieties about our mortality.
No evidence has ever been adduced to support the so-called non-physical. Even in spooky arena of sub-atomic physics (quantum physics), we still employ scientific methodology to try understand it bit by bit.

" just believe me bro " just doesn't cut it.

DeepSight:
Evidence of this rests in the transient nature of the physical.

The intangible and spiritual are much more real and abiding.
It is what you are, and you cannot change it.

You are not a physical being. You dwell only for a time in a physical encasement.

No evidence.
How you feel or one's personal perspective is not the same as EVIDENCE.
Evidence means something that is objectively standard to anyone, everyone, everywhere, everytime.

DeepSight:
Science can't even explain you: what you are.

Science is a quest, a series of questions, one after the other.

DeepSight:
You are not your body. Your body is a shell, a biological machine which enables you to work in the physical world.

You know that's just an educated guess, at best.

If scientific investigation, the foundation of everything we currently know about the universe, cannot explain spirit or God, then what are basis for a belief not grounded in the immutable laws of math and physics?
If we don't have foundational basis (science) with which to understand reality, then it all comes down to " just believe me bro" .

Since the dawn of human history, Religious people have advanced all sorts of arguments to support the existence of whatever God or diety that they believe in.
In the the prescience era, their arguments carried a lot weight, mostly because proof or evidence was not a requirement.
In the modern scientific era however, goddists have struggled to explain the existence of their particular God in the face of numerous advances in knowledge about the universe, our Earth and biological life.

So these days, the Religious folks have to do quiet a lot of logical acrobatics, mostly absurd fallacies, to justify their faith.

On this particular forum, non believers have been asked several times to prove that God does not exist.

Well, even though it is the responsibility of the believers to show proof of the existence of God, the nation of Nigeria does make a compelling case ,in fact, absolute proof, that God does not exist.

This is a nation of 200m+ people who expend the most time and energy to worship and pray to God.

In my 50+ years of life, no single prayer has been answered in Nigeria and for Nigeria.

Despite our absurd fixation with religion and our religiosity, Nigeria can best be described as a God-forsaken nation.

When will it become conscious in our minds that whoever sold us this grand bogey, has left us holding the bag full of desert sand ?

How long shall we continue to carry this bag of desert sand ?

Cc: Deepsight

DeepSight:
Reincarnate in three hundred years. Things may be better.

Lol.
My brother, how are you doing?
I hope you're holding up well in this dystopian paradise.

I scratch my head everyday.
It's impossible for me to understand Nigeria and Nigerians anymore.
I think I need to go back school, with a clean slate, to make another attempt at understanding human nature.

Righthussle:
I pity Africans

There is hardly anything to be proud of in Africa.
We can go on blaming anything or anyone we can think of, but the bitter truth is that there is no enduring legacy that I can be proud of as a Nigerian. Rather, shame upon shame is what I feel with every piece of news out of Nigeria.

BeeBeeOoh:
https://thenationonlineng.net/igp-orders-police-officers-to-wear-black-bands-over-lagbajas-death/

And an emergency contract has to quickly awarded for the provision of tens of thousands back bands.
Yeye people.
Another day in the dystopian paradise.

nedu666:
If your exports exceed your imports for two consecutive quarters. Why is your currency losing value. Your economy is growing yet you are experiencing hyper inflation, more poverty, lower purchasing power, what sort of economy is that

Don't mind the half brain idiot.
Let me try to debunk most of the bogus and misleading figures thrown around by this fraudster.

1. First, he said our exports are more than our imports. We'll, what are those exports? Agricultural goods, manufactured goods ?
The same oil and gas exports that has remained the mainstay of the economy. We are importing less because purchasing power of the Middle class has been completely decimated by ill-concieved adhoc policies.
No strides have been made in any new export sector.
We are on the verge of importing basic food for sustenance.

2. The Nigerian stock exchange making new highs is certainly not measure of economic well-being, especially in our dystopian, generator-run economy. In fact, stock markets are know to thrive when the middle class is under attack and when income disparity is widest.

3. A temporary blip of foreign reserve Growth as a measure of economic well-being is laughable, so laughable, it needs no explanation. Genuine Foreign reserve Growth without a corresponding strengthening of the domestic currency is a joke, facade.

4. Did he say that industrial production has increased?
Where ?

5. Did he say that Nigeria is now fuel- import free ?
Since when , and why are we still hearing about landing costs associated with refined petroleum?

6. Did I hear him say no more pipeline of borrowing?
What is he talking about?
Tinubu has borrowed more money in 1yr than any previous president did in that same span of time.

It is rather unbelievable, even heartless for a desperate political jobber, only after his own stomach infrastructure , insult the sensibilities of hungry and frustrated Nigerians with bogus statistics.

In this current state, only a policy or program to drastically bring down the price of fuel, drastically strengthen the Naira, give 24hr electricity nationwide ,improve agricultural production 3 fold, and improve security would bring succour to the suffering masses.

Kelechi009:
Obama faces backlash for comments toward Black men in recent speech where he was scapegoating Black men, that black men are not enthused about voting for Kamala.

He might be quietly running a “shadow government” in the U.S. I think that even though he's no longer in office, Obama still holds a lot of influence over the Democratic Party and what happens in politics. This idea gained attention after his recent speech, where he pointed out that black men don’t seem excited to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.

Obama has run 8 years in Office.

- Has allegedly run a shadow government under President Biden.
- Is allegedly planning to run a shadow government under Kamala.

In Nigeria, former Governors & leaders like TINUBU & OBASANJO often keep a lot of power behind the scenes under APC & PDP, even after they leave office. These leaders continue to control important decisions and politics, creating what's known as a "shadow government." This happens when they work in secret or influence decisions without officially holding power, which can sometimes weaken democracy.

I mean, this is what African/Nigerian leaders do.

I compare Obama’s ongoing role in politics to what happens in African countries. Even though Obama isn’t doing anything illegal or against the rules, his continued involvement raises questions. Is his influence as a former president too strong, and could it impact how the government works today?

How much power should a former leader have in the future of American politics?
Shouldn't he just retire and be happy?

Pure Nonsense.

Obama is not pulling any strings behind any scenes.
He's just using his genuine popularity to campaign for his party. That is a very very normal thing to do.

Bashoruntolu:
Everyone one is confused in Nigeria. Every sector doing what is not in their portfolio. Wetin concern NDLEA and marriage + visa? Immigration should also look into drugs, let the equation be balanced.
Very soon
1. Nigerian army will start issuing marriage certificates
2. Supreme court will be the one conducting JAMB exams
3. Native doctors will conduct elections.

What next Mr T-pain de painter?

I couldn't have said better.
Especially now that we have to get permission to sing the national anthem.
This dystopian paradise is getting wayyyyyy too dystopian for me.

adamusuleiman3:
https://dailypost.ng/2024/10/03/stop-migrating-to-countries-worse-than-nigeria-abike-dabiri-erewa-warns-nigerians/

Idiotic.

What are the countries worse than Nigeria?

[quote author=fergie001 post=132256426][/quote]Ha ha ha.

Once again, another useless, failed and shameless African leader running abroad for vacation and health.

What a joke.
October 1st was 64th independence anniversary

October 2nd should be a day of national crying and mourning for 64yrs of a dream betrayed.

LordviccoDaGuru:
What have you achieve in Life so far?

I'm very sure that my definition of achievement is not the same with yours. I have lived up to my own goals and expectations as well as that of my community, and I continue to grow.

Buhari, on the other hand, both in his first and second missionless journeys into leadership, have proven to be a curse upon the nation.

He stole power with barrel of a gun once, and second by grand deceit, and yet , on both occasions he brought nothing but pestilence and desolation.

Africa's very very useless leaders, who would run their nations aground, but quick to run to other countries for their personal comfort and health.
Very very useless.

Kobojunkie:
Stop Lying to him! His brother wasted his talent working for a business enterprise that paid him nothing for all his work and time, and when he needed help, all he got was a snake oil scam executed against him by the same man whom he had served for all that while. This couldn't happen to anyone but to a certified mugu.

His brother lived and died a mugu building Adeboye's kingdom here on earth for free. And now, Adeboye would even charge for his body to be buried on the same property he invested his life in building up. Tell yourselves the truth so you will never repeat the mistakes of those before you. Shio!

Best comment so far.

When will people learn ?
Religion is a scam.
Adeboye is a scammer.

Bliss4Lyfe:
Well, they dont arrest and jail them for counter threat when threatened.


That is the point that jumped over past your head

Nonsense.
This sounds so dumb.
That's not a defense.
By such logic we should all be intentionally committing crimes because other persons provoked us.

Bliss4Lyfe:
U think Canada is your kangaroo nigeria court?

Canada arrests and prosecute people, almost daily , for making threats against individuals or groups.

Bliss4Lyfe:
Abike should go and post her yoruba brothers pictures that were threatening to unalive Igbo children, the way she posted Amaka details. Imagine Amaka was not a citizen, she would have been deported and probably killed by the tribal bigot Abike Dabiri in Nigeria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7pTIRgbGsg

If true.
The so-called lawsuit is frivolous and won't see the light of day in a courtroom.
Abike, no matter her prejudices, was acting in the public interest.
Amaka's act of posting public threats in the category of hate crime, is a criminal offense under Canadian law.
The fact that she has been criminally charged is the best evidence that Abike was acting in the public interest.

NaMyData:
https://namydata.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/ezgif-2-bcabcdb840_RepNaija_RepNaija.jpg
Ghanaian actress and social media influencer, Efia Odo, has revealed some deal-breakers for her in potential romantic partners, as she reveals she cannot be with a man who only lasts 40 mins in bed.

In a recent podcast clip shared on her Instagram, Efia listed two key red flags.

She stated that she cannot tolerate a partner who can’t sustain intimacy for over an hour and a 30-year-old man still living with his parents.

According to the actress, she values independence and personal space.

She also added that in the past she used to be naïve enough to accept men who don’t own a car, but now, men who do not own a car are also red flags to her.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPugKoMKMKw?si=LHFsUsV74GXNkBng

A good quality man has easy access to as many women as he can handle.
I still wonder why women continue to delude themselves that they are the PRIZE.

Racoon:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/AM69r1A7gdGRzJ9n/?mibextid=oFDknk

I know you're reading this Reno.

Now, I find it very very odd that you failed, even once to mention corruption in our political leadership and how holding corrupt ofgice holders accountable and stamping out corruption is the best and simplest solution to Nigeria's perennial fuel problem.

Nigeria's current fuel problems are 100% as a result of corruption. Corruption at the highest levels of power ,corruption in the petroleum ministry, corruption at the management of the refineries, mind boggling corruption at NNPC.
If there was no systemic and institutionalized corruption from Aso Rock to the Refineries and to the petrol stations, we would have no need to import fuel and no talk of fuel subsidies.

But just like the political jobber and hatchet man that you are, you are indirectly blaming the victims of corrupt governance for mess they are in.

eejo:
The answer must be in one word

Buhari

ExAngel007:
A woman, Queen Primis has gone on social media to narrate how she discovered a tampon had been left in her body for one month.

She wrote on social media:

Credit: Queen Primis

Why should this make front page ?

Has Nairaland become this bad ?

Glimpsetv:
A South African lady has made a startling revelation about the number of students living with HIV in South Africa. She disclosed that those living with HIV are primarily teenagers between the ages of 17 and 29.

According to her, these are individuals who chose 10 minutes of pleasure, risking their lives in the process.

Please watch the video and listen. Remember to like and share this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mon6_-c8KO4?si=I8x9ds0OmlhJr8dl

Very funny and Disappointing.
A random stranger with no credentials makes an outrageous statement, they put it on the front page, and Everyone is making silly statements up and down.

The Disappointing thing is that not a single commentator bothers to fact- check her nor asks her credentials as a public health spokesperson.

Are you all really that gullible?
Sad.

A House of FOOLS.

Nigeria is a fake nation, where thieves and lootercrats delude themselves that singing the fake national anthem is all that is required to be a patriot.

LordReed:
Hey man! Been awhile. You good?

Very good, thank you.
I hope you are too.

StillDtruth:
As the devilReed spake.it occured to me that these days are similar to days when Isrral.was in Egypt.

The first 5 mild plagues affected all of Egypt but the last 5 hit only Egypt and Isreal was not affected.

So, i perceive more worse things are coming and this time it is only devils and atheists and sinners that would be destroyed..

And i pray every atheist and devil and their houses will be consumed by the plagues and destruction

Nigeria are the most god-worshipping people in the world.
Yet, plagues upon plagues, one after the other continually besiege Nigeria, with no single ray of light at the end of the tunnel.

What gives ?
If one was looking for proof that God is a delusion, then Nigeria represents that proof.

LordReed:
LoLz. Everything feeds your delusion, shows how psychologically compromised you are.

Indeed.

StillDtruth:
I wish God would do toall atheists as He did to Egypt when Isreal was with them.

So today, Christianity means children of Abraham while the Egyptians today are atheists.

Thus, i pray thee o Lord that the atheists we see today we shall see no more.

That let their be mournings in the houses of atheists whereas in the houses of Christians there are shouts of joys!

Let their be barreness in the houses of atheists whereas in the houses of Christians their shall giglings of babies.

Let the atheist never marry but let the christian be joyfully married.

Let the atheist sow a field and reap a desert whereas let the Christian sow a grain of wheat and he reaps a harvest of 30s and 60s and 100s wheat and corn.

Let the plagues enter the atheists.house whereas the christian dwelleth safely as thou didst do in Egypt.

Like I always say, a god is as good or silly as the mind that creates it.