₦airaland Forum

DeepSight:
There are highly religious societies that have progressed well so it's not all about religion.

Namely?

Jokerman:
Not only on diaspora.

It happening even here in this country.

Children don't do bible study no more. No more sword drills, bible quizzes etc....

Parents always praying for blessings and blessings, while ignoring children growing up in the Lord

How many generations have grown in your so-called Lord ? What positive legacies have these tokunbo religions left in Africa?
Despite being the most religious and the most bible thumping and prayerful people in the world, today, Nigeria is one of the worst hellholes on earth ?
What gives ?
" The pre-eminence of any system ,religion or philosophy is to be measured in the quality of its output ".
To that end ,the quality of our national output after 64yrs of independence says a great deal about our minds and adopted religious philosophies that occupy those minds.
They are all cow dung.

Adonko:
if you have nothing to say pls keep shut...he is trying to talk about the rot in the society and possible solution. Who says you can't know more than your master/teacher..syllabus are updated everyday...as well as curriculum changes and also and student can choose to dive deeper In research than his master.

In this context ....these foreigner's don't know ..most don't know how to bring up children..both God fearing and morally.

The rot in which society?
Foreigners don't how to bring up children? ??
So Nigerians know how to bring up children? So how did the generations of good children that we bred in Nigeria turn Nigeria into a hellhole?
Are we that dumb not to recognize that the so-called badly brought up children in the west just happen to be the ones creating all the paradise, the well built countries that we run to for asylum because our own people ( born and bred in Nigeria) have failed us ?
As soon as a Nigerian arrives a foreign shore, that should be the first thing to recognize: that generations of Nigerians have failed Nigeria.
But unfortunately , because we carry the religious infection along with us, it continues to becloud our worldviews, even in the diaspora.
I find it very very funny and ironic when a Nigerian manages to escape the hellhole called Nigeria,
and then complains about the rot in his host country, the country that gave him asylum and opportunities for a better life despite his well-crafted lies.

rexbuton:
I attended two different church programmes this month and I noticed some trends that got me worried, so I thought i should share and offer some counselling too.

1. African women not knowing what to do with children in church. As soon as the service started, the woman in front of me brought out two large ear muffs for both of her children, blocked their ears while she began praising God. They weren’t sat close to a sound speaker. Other women in the congregation came with kids tablets, and you could see how engaged these kids were with their tablets. How do you expect these children to develop faith in God if they cannot hear the word?

(Rom10.17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.)

(2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby

(2Tim 3.15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.)

The above three scriptures explain in detail how the word of God is necessary for growth, faith development and for wisdom. Christianity is not like chemistry where you mix acid and base to get salt and water, in this kingdom, the unseen controls the seen, and faith is the currency.

Our generation was fortunate; we did bible knowledge in primary and secondary school, our parents dragged us along to church revivals, even if we slept through it, the spoken word permeated us and was registered in our subconscious. Today’s generation in the western world do not have that privilege, instead they have tiktok, YouTube and Snapchat. And woe betide anyone who believes what they say about their societies being secular. There is nothing called secularism or atheism in the spirit, ‘’he who is not for us, is against us’’.

I have a teenager who works with me once a week, he’s in college, and he casually mentioned to me that they had to read Harry Potter in Secondary school Year 7! Little wonder young people overseas are increasing dabbling in occultism and paganism. Schools have a subject called Religious Education whose content varies depending on the country and county where you are. In most cases, there is no time or space for bible reading, but there’s enough time for gender ideology, sexual perversion normalisation , and other satanic nonsense

What can be done differently?
Parents must recognise that children must be exposed to God at a tender age, just as Hannah took Samuel to the Lord after she weaned him. We must recognise that school teachers would not do the job as in the times past, thus we must double our efforts in prayer and word study.

I can remember as a child, church was not the most interesting place to be, but how was my attention held?

1. Bible quizzes. Then we didn’t have the internet, so questions required tough bible study, and as I grew older, I learnt to use a concordance.

2. Sword drills. These were interesting events where you had to open your physical bible to a particular scripture as quickly as possible. Thus, most children knew where particular bible books were precisely.

3. Choir and drama events. In one Sunday every month, the kids choir would have a performance at the main church, during regular service, and as they got older, they could commandeer praise and worship even with their own instrumentalists.

4. Kids retreats. Usually once a year, 3-day retreats away from home, for word study, prayer, and fun games. Parents didn’t have to worry about their child’s nut and pollen allergy, because they were in God’s hands.

In conclusion, pastors and church leadership must concentrate on integrating children into the church. In today’s world, they grow up so quickly, we can’t risk having them fall to the wayside. Pastors ought to take personal interest in children’s development, guide them, pray for them, anoint them, recognise those that appear to have fallen into bad company, and create a specialized development plan, just to keep them engaged .
God bless you.

Ha ha ha.
I disagree with you completely.
That religious superstitions still follow Africans into the Diaspora is bad enough, but to insist that Africans in the Diaspora pass on that mentally debilitating disease to their children in the diaspora would be double tragedy.

The good news is that whether you like it or not, every generation is less drawn to religious superstitions than the previous generation.
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Blindfaith religion does not belong in this modern era.

opamoses1:
Africa is poor because of corrupt politicians and military dictators that have ruled the continent since independence. Using Nigeria as an example E.g. Abacha and IBB. The modafuckers that truncated the first Republic included.

What has that got to do with a poster on Nairaland who is not even a politician or even the topic..from where do you things crawl out from?

We can blaming politicians. Who are the politicians?
They are us and we are them.
It is a corrupt system that produces corrupt and rapacious politicians and elites.

Again, it is the poverty of the mind on a national scale that produces and nourishes a corrupt system .

Slytiger:
Projection.

If poverty is my problem, how is that your own problem. Why use Panadol for another man's poverty?

Why Africa is resource rich , but remain very poor is everyone's problem.
As a man thinketh, so he liveth.
Africa is resource rich, but Africa remains poor because of the poverty of our minds, you being a good example.

Slytiger:
I don't know what my post had to do with poverty 😂.
Last time I checked, I am very rich by Nigerian standards. You guys just like to insult people that you do not know for reasons best known to you.

Again you only think of money.
Poverty of the mind is a more pernicious form of Poverty. And the poster was right on, poverty is your problem.

AnonPoet:
https://newsdirect.ng/allen-onyema-and-air-peace-should-learn-excellence-from-the-bull-reno/

Imagine Reno Omokri, a political prostitute, a jobless destitute who has no single accomplishment to his life, advising a man who has actually built a business that employs thousands, a national legacy .
Well, social media does give every foo.l a voice.

DeepSight:
Barely 300 years ago, the whole of Europe was busy burning witches.

And 300 years is nothing in the large picture of cycles.

I agree.
And now they look back at those eras in disgust. They showcase these eras in books and films to show where they came from and how far they have since evolved.

Now, in this age where every scientific discovery,
the immutable laws cause and effect are within everyone's palm to understand, if the African mind is failing to catch up with modern scientific rationalism , then is it any wonder that the question of intellectual inferiority continually puts us on the defensive ?

DeepSight:
Nigeria being a failed state is a different question from Black Africans being innately inferior as a race. Do you think Black Africans are innately inferior as a race?

Thinking about the question more deeply.
I would answer no.
A failure to nurture the rational part of our brains and use it to build positive lasting legacies for coming generations is itself not necessarily a sign of inferiority, but a negation of self-worth and potential.

We are not biologically inferior, but mentally lazy, too lazy to face and conquer self-serving primitive impulses.

Now, other races who recognize these long-conqured impulses in our actions could and often use it to make the case of intellectual inferiority.

I once had a very heated argument with colleagues on a Nigerian forum. During a national election when candidates and their parties were going around different communities wooing voters and laying out their policy thrusts and programs , the African communities were being fed with stuupid spiritual mumbo jumbos. Rather than telling the African immigrant communities about policies and programs , they inundated them with warnings about the election being a spiritual warfare between the children of god and Satan. I was sooo angry that I attacked them and asked if spiritual mumbo jumbos were the only things an African mind was capable of understanding ? Sadly , I was alone , as everyone on the Nigerian forum came out against me.

So, yes, it does worry me a lot whether religious mumbo jumbos are the only things an African brain, even educated ones, are capable of processing.

Sapasenator:
Lots of them must have lied on their Visa application to the UK, use fake bank accounts while applying, overstayed e.t.c

Nigerian Christian my black ass*

Why cant they return to their country destroyed by religion and tribalism.

You took those words right out of my mind.

Once I was strolling in the street when a Nigerian lady confronted me and asked to come for religious crusade. She said a powerful man of God from Zimbabwe was coming to do miracles and wonders.
I asked her why a powerful man of God was coming to North America do miracles and wonders when the people in Zimbabwe needed miracles and wonders the most ?

DeepSight:
Nigeria being a failed state is a different question from Black Africans being innately inferior as a race. Do you think Black Africans are innately inferior as a race?

It is not an easy question to answer, my dear friend.
Infact, we would and do defend and justify our intellectual abilities with every excuse possible.

But day by day, year by year, decade after decade, the quality of the output from our system continually betray and shame us.

Tellmeastory:
What skin colour are you?

Stupid dunce.

THE THING ABOUT FOOLS LIKE YOU IS THAT YOU ARE SO STUPID AND THOUGHTLESS, YOU DON'T REALISE THAT WHEN YOU CALL YOUR RACE INFERIOR, YOU ARE CALLING YOUR OWN SELF, YOUR MOTHER, WIFE, SIBLINGS, CHILDREN, AND FATHER, INFERIOR BEINGS.

STUPID, EMPTY HEAD.

There is a saying " the conquest of self is the greatest conquest of all ".
Conquest of self begins with accepting bitter truths. Only cowards and people of fragile self-esteem fear to look into their own psyches.

There is also another saying that " The pre-eminence of any system or philosophy is to be found in the quality of its output " .

In the case of Nigeria, our gross national output has consistently been pure and unadulterated stuupidity.

I don't know about you , I say it to anyone who cares to listen that Nigeria is a failed state.
Why do I say that despite the fact that I'm a Nigerian ?
Well, because it is true.

People like you might play ostrich and pretend that it is not. Most likely you feel that calling Nigeria a failed state diminishes your personal self-esteem. So your failure to admit your shortcomings is a psychological thing.
Therefore my friend, that's your personal problem, not mine.

Now, for me , when I say that Nigeria is a failed state and that Nigerians are stuupid people, it does not negatively affect my personal self-esteem, no sir, rather , it causes me to continually self-reflect , to continually ask why and how, to seek answers to the enigma of our perennial failures as a nation and people.

Religion, blindfaith tokunbo religions have proven to be the most mentally debilitating disease in Africa , and Nigeria in particular.
In Nigeria, Religion is the equivalent of Depleted Uranium dumped on us from the Middle East and Europe. It is extremely toxic and harms every thing( every mind) that it touches.

The fact Nigerians in the diaspora, who managed, by hook or crook, to escape the man-made hellhole called Nigeria, still carry the burden, the disease of the Depleted Uranium highlights the nagging questions of intellectual deficiency on a continental scale.

bjdon:
If every single black person on earth was eliminated tomorrow, what would the world loose? We are such a WASTE OF SPACE.

Look at these ones jumping up and down in another mans country, worshiping another man's religion. Totally unable to develop their own country. Generation after generation afflicted by pestilence, violence, sickness and early death.

The white man should come and recolonize Africa for the next 200 years. That's how long it will take thick, dumb black people to get sense

I agree 100%.
This, unfortunately, makes a strong case for the mental inferiority of the black man.
I weep.

PandoraObi:
42 children that mocked Elisah were killed by bears, especially those that attacking Pastor Adeboye for not supporting their yes daddy and religious war Obi rodent, beware

Wow! 42 innocent Children were killed by God for mocking Elisha，and here you are boasting about it ?

Ilekokonit:
On another note, the article below says that religious experiences shrink part of the brain and if true, this must mean that religion makes you think irrationally or lose touch with rationality.

Religious Experiences Shrink Part of the Brain

A study links life-changing religious experiences, like being “born again,” with atrophy in the hippocampus

The article, “Religious factors and hippocampal atrophy in late life,” by Amy Owen and colleagues at Duke University represents an important advance in our growing understanding of the relationship between the brain and religion. The study, published March 30 in PLoS One, showed greater atrophy in the hippocampus in individuals who identify with specific religious groups as well as those with no religious affiliation. It is a surprising result, given that many prior studies have shown religion to have potentially beneficial effects on brain function, anxiety, and depression.

A number of studies have evaluated the acute effects of religious practices, such as meditation and prayer, on the human brain. A smaller number of studies have evaluated the longer term effects of religion on the brain. Such studies, like the present one, have focused on differences in brain volume or brain function in those people heavily engaged in meditation or spiritual practices compared to those who are not. And an even fewer number of studies have explored the longitudinal effects of doing meditation or spiritual practices by evaluating subjects at two different time points.

In this study, Owen et al. used MRI to measure the volume of the hippocampus, a central structure of the limbic system that is involved in emotion as well as in memory formation. They evaluated the MRIs of 268 men and women aged 58 and over, who were originally recruited for the NeuroCognitive Outcomes of Depression in the Elderly study, but who also answered several questions regarding their religious beliefs and affiliation. The study by Owen et al. is unique in that it focuses specifically on religious individuals compared to non-religious individuals. This study also broke down these individuals into those who are born again or who have had life-changing religious experiences.
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The results showed significantly greater hippocampal atrophy in individuals reporting a life-changing religious experience. In addition, they found significantly greater hippocampal atrophy among born-again Protestants, Catholics, and those with no religious affiliation, compared with Protestants not identifying as born-again.

The authors offer the hypothesis that the greater hippocampal atrophy in selected religious groups might be related to stress. They argue that some individuals in the religious minority, or those who struggle with their beliefs, experience higher levels of stress. This causes a release of stress hormones that are known to depress the volume of the hippocampus over time. This might also explain the fact that both non-religious as well as some religious individuals have smaller hippocampal volumes.

This is an interesting hypothesis. Many studies have shown positive effects of religion and spirituality on mental health, but there are also plenty of examples of negative impacts. There is evidence that members of religious groups who are persecuted or in the minority might have markedly greater stress and anxiety as they try to navigate their own society. Other times, a person might perceive God to be punishing them and therefore have significant stress in the face of their religious struggle. Others experience religious struggle because of conflicting ideas with their religious tradition or their family. Even very positive, life-changing experiences might be difficult to incorporate into the individual’s prevailing religious belief system and this can also lead to stress and anxiety. Perceived religious transgressions can cause emotional and psychological anguish. This “religious” and “spiritual pain” can be difficult to distinguish from pure physical pain. And all of these phenomena can have potentially negative effects on the brain.

Thus, Owen and her colleagues certainly pose a plausible hypothesis. They also cite some of the limitations of their findings, such as the small sample size. More importantly, the causal relationship between brain findings and religion is difficult to clearly establish. Is it possible, for example, that those people with smaller hippocampal volumes are more likely to have specific religious attributes, drawing the causal arrow in the other direction? Further, it might be that the factors leading up to the life-changing events are important and not just the experience itself. Since brain atrophy reflects everything that happens to a person up to that point, one cannot definitively conclude that the most intense experience was in fact the thing that resulted in brain atrophy. So there are many potential factors that could lead to the reported results. (It is also somewhat problematic that stress itself did not correlate with hippocampal volumes since this was one of the potential hypotheses proposed by the authors and thus, appears to undercut the conclusions.) One might ask whether it is possible that people who are more religious suffer greater inherent stress, but that their religion actually helps to protect them somewhat. Religion is frequently cited as an important coping mechanism for dealing with stress.

This new study is intriguing and important. It makes us think more about the complexity of the relationship between religion and the brain. This field of scholarship, referred to as neurotheology, can greatly advance our understanding of religion, spirituality, and the brain. Continued studies of both the acute and chronic effects of religion on the brain will be highly valuable. For now, we can be certain that religion affects the brain--we just are not certain how.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/religious-experiences-shrink-part-of-brain/

Very interesting

TouchNfollow:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/04/rccg-has-over-200000-pastors-in-nigeria-adeboye/#google_vignette

Congratulations you charlatan and parasite.
You're proud to proclaim that Nigeria has 200,000 RCCG parasites, I mean pastors.
How many Nigerians are under RCCG scholarships?

Nfora:
You are just a dunce.

So the biggest problem we have in electricity is accounting ?

Orisirisi

I had rather say the biggest problem you and your first class accounting minister has,is accounting.

Otherwise, you should know that stupidity is when you compare price of electricity in Nigeria,with other countries,without comparing the income levels in same countries.

That guy is a first class Dunce, with a capital letter.

ivandragon:
What an irony...

These are people who while at functions, the official vehicle is kept running for hours so it would be cool when they are entering it.

People who don't obey traffic lights because they are in official vehicles.

People who use official vehicles for private errands.

People who post government security agents 24/7 at remote homes they visit just once or twice a year.

These are the people talking about waste and excesses...

It is very unfortunate that a party like APC exists...

Irony indeed

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh. Only ignorant people will take this OP serious.

The interview stated that the main reason is because government has been subsidising and it's unsustainable so they approved NERC's recommendation that electricity consumers who get electricity for 20 hours and above should be taken off subsidy so that government can still manage to cope giving subsidies to those enjoying less hours of electricity.

You guys better quit social media and go to great school so that Government will take you serious. That man , the Minister of Power, Adelabu, you are misquoting has a 1st Class in Accountancy from OAU, Ile Ife o.

1st class in accountancy means what ?
Even if he was a Havard first in administration, of what relevance is that to the issue at hand and his responsibilities as the minister of power?

When leaders , irrespective of their academic credentials, find themselves clueless and incompetent about their responsibilities, they usually resort to blaming the masses, the victims of their incompetence. Of course, it's much easier to blame the victims than it is to work courageously to improve their lot.
It's the known way of cowards.

Once the power minister begins to blame Nigerian consumers of electricity, then it's the 100% proof that we should not expect any real improvement in power supply from the power ministry.

[quote author=Kelklein post=129294829][/quote]Here we go again.
A new set of looters are set make another round of billions of Naira.

MadamExcellency:
Abuse of Naira is not a financial crime. It is a misdemeanor that police should prosecute in a magistrate court.

Thank you jare.

A clear displacement of priorities indeed.

The EFCC, from its own history, is a very corrupt organization. Its leaders lack the moral courage to pursue Its mandate: the arrest and prosecution of Nigeria's networks of economic criminals.

So in typical cowardly fashion, it goes after the lowest hanging fruits to entertain us and justify its existence.

Blaze14k:
Oya were are my igbos are the problem of nigeria crew gada here. Esn was formed to protect our forest buh they tagged them terrorist while people killing there brothers and kidnapping them at will are called bandits. No be juju be dat?😂😂

Very very funny , but sad .
It's like a superstitious homeowner who convinces himself that the cat outside his home minding it's own business is the cause of all his health issues, whereas the rodents inside his house is the one that eats his food, destroys his valuables and leaves droppings all over his house. But despite all these, the superstitious fools still convinces himself that the cat outside be the source of his problems.

I am soo ashamed to call myself Nigerian.
Nigeria and Nigerians are the most stuupid and useless people on Earth.
If not for living relatives in Nigerian, I would renounce any association with Nigeria and never set foot in that cursed land and cursed people ever.

Just few days ago , right in the middle of the most severe economic crunch in the history of Nigeria, the federal government increased electricity tarrifs to levels never seen before. In a country where people barely get 6 total hours of electricity in a month , that should have sparked outrage.
But as usual , they murmur quietly and then move on, waiting for the next round of humiliation from their political elites.

The political elites are raping, looting and robbing the people of Nigeria every single day. They have become so brazen that it longer makes headlines. When it does, only for one short day, and then the people move on to the next round.

All around Nigeria, bandits are running amok, killing, maiming and kidnapping. Yet, Nigerians murmur quietly, and then move on.

Yet, in the middle all these chaos and confusion, the EFCC, the police and all the law enforcement agencies find their relevance in harassing , detaining and prosecuting social media entertainers.
Most shocking is that the Nigerian people, the most raped and abused by the their political elites on Earth, are busy cheering on . Remember, one day they will come for you too.

It's like the EFCC, impotent and incompetent to confront Nigeria's vast and expanding Corruption Industrial/Political Complex , deliberately chooses to entertain the hungry and stuupid masses with these sideshows.

Shame on EFCC.
Shame on all Nigerians.

VinnyBaba:
OP,

Reno is waiting for PETER OBI's reaction first. 🤔🤨

Laughing out loudest.

jazzman7711:
In 1975, minimum wage was like 80 naira a month, so that Peugeot you are looking at was beyond the reach of average Nigerians.

Back then things were hard, and food was costly, especially meat.

Back then we ate one or two small pieces of meat with the rice. Nothing like ‘assorted’ back then.

You got it all wrong mate.
In 1975 , a senior civil servant could actually buy a car, build a bungalow, train all his children and even relatives in the university on his salary.
That's the real comparison of how Nigeria has been gradually raped and pillaged by rapacious leaders.

DeepSight:
You cant be serious.
Thats as bad as saying no priest ever abuses little boys.

In every calling there are to be found both perverts as well as those who just fall to simple human temptation or weakness, against all better judgment.

How you want to claim that the discipline of psychology is a holy provenance full of such perfect beings as to exclude this, is beyond me.

Very correct, but the poster narrated the story to imply that the so-called psychologist got personally involved with the client as part of his official assignment from his employer.
That's why I said impossible.

DeepSight:
Christ did you just write the bold? ? ? ? ? ?

Yes sir.

guobe:
A colleague of mine was telling me recently how his friend who just travelled to Canada and in Canada did a six months Psychology programme got employed by a Company over there.

The work of the Company is to assist vulnerable people especially those ones that are suicidal.

He said the pay is quite good and in just few hours being with your client you can earn like 400 dollars.

He said this his friend has wife and kids in Nigeria who will be relocating soon to Canada and that there was this Nigerian client who is a woman in Canada that was having suicidal thoughts and wanted to even kill her child that the Government had to take the child away from her.

He said he felt maybe it's Ogbanje that is worrying the woman but Oyibo people don't know what is Ogbanje.

The Company told my colleagues friend to do like an undercover blind date and meet up with the woman which he did and that he actually met the woman and even slept with her to make her happy.

In my mind I was just wondering that things de really happen for life.

Are psychologist known to sleep with their clients?
That is the way the psychologist of omahlay slept with him too.

I'm not sure how trash like this gets to the front page.
Sounds like a badly concocted nija movie script.

First of all, there is no such thing as a six months psychology program that qualifies anyone to be psychologist, talkless of being allowed access to vulnerable people. That's absolute fiction.
Secondly, no psychologist or social worker or counselor would commit the unethical and illegal act of engaging with a client on a personal level, no matter the circumstances.

Again, I wonder how this silly story makes any sense and how it got to the front page.

DeepSight:
Do you agree with the subsidy removal and how it was done?

The subsidy had to be removed. It was unsustainable. Of course, it was expected to send Shockwaves throughout the system. But I don't know in which way it could have been done without the ripple effects.
On second thought, a one year period within which to get all 3 refineries in full capacity would have been the best option. If we cease importing fuel, then the issue of subsidy goes away.

DeepSight:
All of this is true but floating the naira is the immediate trigger for this present slump. Very bad timing after the subsidy removal only weeks before.

Agreed.

On another topic , fuel subsidy is another fraud we have been committing against ourselves since the Abacha Era. We all knew it was high stakes fraud, but we all looked away.
There is too much fraud embedded in the system. When the day of reckoning comes, then we all feign surprise and shock.