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Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 11:00pm On Oct 06, 2015
Demmzy15:
What's this one saying?! I seriously don't know what you gain in lying, just spewing venom anyhow. sad Chai! undecided
Jeremiah, 10:14 - Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
you see that? No breath in allah. Its an idol. Thats why i use It for allah.. tongue
15 - They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

allah is the work of errors, thats why tragic error that killed more than 700 persons took place right in his alter.
16- The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel{not saudi} is the rod of his inheritance: The LORD of hosts is his name. {Not allah} you see how Muhammad has made many of you turn from the God of the Bible? The one true God.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 10:38pm On Oct 06, 2015
Demmzy15:
What's this one saying?! I seriously don't know what you gain in lying, just spewing venom anyhow. sad Chai! undecided
I dont lie against Islam. I have seen so much documents on how true Muslims behave. They must kill for allah. U are not obeying allah. You ought to kill some1 to complete ur quest.. grin And again, if What the OP has posted are lies. Then you have issues to accept the truth because they came from your holy books. {Hadiths and koran}
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing: Did Jesus Say This? by plappville(f): 10:20pm On Oct 06, 2015
rabzy01:
You mean they should be compered with these?

Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all old and young, girls and women and little children. Ezekiel 9:5-7

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. ......... There was not a single house where someone had not died. Exodus 12:29-30

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Isaiah 13:15-18

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. Leviticus 26:21-22

Near him was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. Judges 15:14-15
Answer his simple question na. Abi you no sabi say {yes} or {no}?
one question you should ask yourself, did Jesus kill people? Can you proved it ?
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 10:07pm On Oct 06, 2015
Kudducini:
Well I Think I'll Get My Verified Answers When I Die
You will be welcomed by mohammed in the dark edge... tongue now is the right time bro. Give your life to the one true God of the Bible.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 10:05pm On Oct 06, 2015
[quote author=Demmzy15 post=38734316][/quote]THE OP IS HELPING YOU. WHY NOT SAVEYOUR SOUL.
FROM HISTORICAL BANDAGE undecided
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 10:00pm On Oct 06, 2015
truthman2012:
Firstly, none of you has been able to say anything on why idol worship is compatible with islam.

Secondly, you cannot prove islamic allahh is the same with Arab Christians' allah because the quran confirms that islamic allahh is not Yahweh the Jews and Christians believe in:
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Quran109:
1. Say: O disbelievers! (i.e Jews and Christians)
2. I worship not that which ye worship;
3. Nor worship ye that which I worship.
4. And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
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The DISBELIEVERS referred to in verse 1 above are the Jews and Christians who believed not in allahh and islam:

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger.......(Quran 9:29).

The people who had been given the Scriptures are the Jews and Christians and not pagans, who disbelieved in allahh.

So, as you can see the Jews and Christians didn't believe in islamic allahh right from the time of Muhammad because they didn't believe his source of revelations that was inconsistent with what Yahweh had told them thousands of years before Muhammad's birth.

Yahweh said ''He changeth not'' and for Muhammad to bring revelations contrary to His words shows islamic allahh is the Devil who came to deceive humanity.

The fact that muslims worship their allahh in the same way idol worshipers do is a clear indication that allahh is an arabian idol who wanted to be promoted the status of the true God. It is satan's manipulation to drag mankind to hell with him and making them believe they are worshiping God.

For virginity test, it is a matter of common sense, mothers must have deviced a way of doing that. They were unlike Muhammad who was fingerin.g Aisha at the age of six. Disgusting!!
Waoh at the bold... shocked carefully looking at n°5 and n°6, you will know that Islam is just a wast of time. People waste thier lives to this god who contradict {itself}. Is this not same prophet who said muslims should kill the Jews and Christians? Conversion is obligation in islam how then does the n°5 & n°6 make any sense?

Oh my broda, you have gone real deep in exposing Islam. Great job. May God bless you.
And to the public, DECIDE now that you still alive. The only reason you embraced islam was because your parents were. You had no knowledge of this religion. Now secrets are revealed.

[size=16pt] AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH...AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE FROM AL.LLAH.

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Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 8:04pm On Oct 06, 2015
lexiconkabir:
shut up! angry undecided
You seem to have nothing to say... tongue

Its a pity you do not know the origin of the god u worship. Let me remind u again . Befor Mohamed, al.lah was a well known Arabian moon deity who had three (3) daughters Lat, Uzza and Manat (Sura 53:19-20). Allah is even found in pre-Islamic Arabian inscriptions and poetry as the {moon god}. Therefore Allah has no connection to the God of Abraham Issac and Israel.

Arabic is a related language to Hebrew and Aramaic and nowhere in the language is a.llah or anything close to it used for the name of God, {Yahweh}. Clearly, a.llah is equivalent to the Babylonian god Baal. Even the symbol for Islam the crescent moon and star still declares this origin. Why distrol historical statut own by the state why u protect ur idol right in Mecca? A place where Satan lives. tongue
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 7:44pm On Oct 06, 2015
IdisuleOurOwn:
I read your thread on the Mali crisis, which you liken to Islam. In this thread of yours, you were beaten silly when the debate became hot. You ran away, too bad.


In your posts and threads, you employ all means to discredit Islam and Muslims. You gave interpretation of the Qur'an and the Hadiths. When someone quote from the Bible, you call that person blind.



Do you know the word "Allah" is an Arabic name for God? That the Arab Christians use it as God?

If you follow in a descending and chronologically order, you will find out that your forefathers (Christians) try to put a stop to Islam by giving their own interpretations of the Qur'an just as you are doing in a bid to see people run away from the religion, despite that, the religion grow from strength to strength. It defies all odds. People practice it in tranquillity.


You will always wasted your time in condemning Islam.


I will advise some brothers and sisters here to ignore you.


Demmzy15, lexiconkabir, bashbabe2, BABAAGBALABA, vedaxcol, Rilwayney001.
Of course i was beaten by the moderator that banned me. How can muslims ever defend the indefensible? Your hadith and koran are there to expose Muhammad. U have nothing to defend. Islam is terrorism. Warm up with this question from the OP.. tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: The Married Women That Respect Their Spiritual Leaders More Than Their Husbands. by plappville(f): 4:51pm On Oct 06, 2015
tpiander:
anybody typing on nairaland who does not know their own parents' date of birth, must be from a baby farm.

Not saying anything's wrong with being from one.
The prove is when each year they post pastors birthday picture and ask you to wish him. But u never see them do that with thier parents why? Its either they dont know it or its not as important as that of thier pastors.. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Boko Haram Wants To Kill Me For Converting To Christianity”–Islamic Cleric’s Son by plappville(f): 4:48pm On Oct 06, 2015
Annunaki:
Even 'moderate' muslims will kill you for rthis, killing apostates is halal in islam.
Halah is in all thier food products crazy! But those refugees in Calais in France England were eating non halah. When situation pass body, dem forget halah food .. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Boko Haram Wants To Kill Me For Converting To Christianity”–Islamic Cleric’s Son by plappville(f): 4:44pm On Oct 06, 2015
If he is still in Nigeria, they might find him and kill him.
Nigeria military self dey fear boko. I pray God umbrella him each passing day.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Married Women That Respect Their Spiritual Leaders More Than Their Husbands. by plappville(f): 4:37pm On Oct 06, 2015
Its true that women are more of this, but som3 men do it too. Its disgusting how many believer behave in front of thier Pastors. They cant hurt a fly when in front of Pastor. Some will cause you with the God of thier Pastor as if is only thier pastor that have access to God. Maybe its the impression the pastors put in them i cant understand. The other time. A friend told me her brother swear for her that "the God of TB Jeshua will punish her in life" hahaha. It made me laughed but i think this is a serious isaue. In Facebook and even here in Nairaland. Many go about spreading pastors birthday when some do not even know when thier parents date of birth. This virus is fast spreading to even the young pastors. No wonder many are breaking out to form thier own church.
Nice thread OP. I hope all women will learn a thing from this. No body says we ahould not show respect ooo.. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Masturbation A Sin? by plappville(f): 4:13pm On Oct 06, 2015
oscarlloyd:
u sound like a Muslim,
How does muslim sounds? Have you ever ate your stool before? Please answer. Thanks.

but if I may ask in which scripture of the Bible is it tagged a sin pls...
Ephesians 5:3 declares, “Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity.”, “Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity.”

(1 Corinthians 10:31)
"So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God".

 If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it.

Romans 14:23).

“Everything that does not come from faith is sin”
If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin:

The name musterbation is not mention in the scripture but the act is discribed if one read these verses with a sincere mind. It is
Lustful thought, a sexual stimulation. Therefore a sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Does It Mean To Be A Born Again Christian? by plappville(f): 9:54pm On Oct 05, 2015
MuttleyLaff:
I cant give you the answer. Sorry. Call it tough love, if you may. You need to do this all by yourself.
You need to ''jump out of the nest'' when you do jump, you'll face palm yourself from having a light bulb experience after answering the question yourself

Exactly
Two people looking at the same thing, both observing the same thing but only one seeing something, only one admitting seeing what was observed or aknowledged what was played out before them both

For the same reason above, I wont be answering this

You are jumbling two separate things together here.
Just because you cant enter, doesnt mean or imply you can't see

People see America, people watch America
but to enter America, to set foot on American soil in America, requires certain criteria being met


Then you see things when the spirit falls or rests on you
You can see things unless you are born from above (i.e. you are born again)

Nicodemus had no problem with this verse
Re-read John 3:3 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born again, he CANNOT "see" the kingdom of God

Jesus knew what Nicodemus was having a problem with and why he asked the question in John 3:4
Nicodemus was confused about the entering aspect, is it going to be his present body or would he have to return into his mother's womb for a re-birth?

Re-read John 3:5 like this:
You are right Nicodemus, I say to you, EXCEPT a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he CANNOT "enter" into the kingdom of God

Nicodemus was like, OK, I've seen the demonstration and power of the Kingdom, the question now is, how do I enter the Kingdom. What are the qualifications?
Remember Nicodemus was a Pharisee, and the Pharisees idea of what the Messiah and His Kingdom is or would be is different

Bottom line and to make a short work of this, no one is entering the Kingdom without a glorified body
Thank you for taking your time. No further argument. May God help us all.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 9:29pm On Oct 05, 2015
BABAAGBALABA:
gat nothing to say to you, you will never understand
YOU HAVE BEEN OVER BRAINWASHED....U CAN'T SEE THE ATROCITIES OF YOUR RELIGION.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 9:27pm On Oct 05, 2015
truthman2012:
Friend, let me teach you a little bit of islam, which your alfa might not know.

The Arabs call whatever idol they worship allah, so allah does not necessarily mean the true God:

Quran 6:136] They assign unto Allah, of the crops and cattle which He created, a portion, and they say: "This is Allah's" - in their make-believe - "and this is for (His) partners in regard to us." Thus that which (they assign) unto His partners in them reacheth not Allah and that which (they assign) unto Allah goeth to their (so-called) partners. Evil is their ordinance.

The 360 idols in Kaaba was headed by allah and concidentally, he was the idol they were worshiping in Muhammad's family. Every family in mecca at that time had one idol inside Kaaba and Muhammad's family own was allah. Muhammad's father's name was Abudullai (AbduAllah), meaning servant of allah. His family were idolaters and the idol they served was allahh, hence the name ''servant of Allah''. Or which allah were they serving as idolaters?

It is untrue Muhammad knew the true God when he was a boy. You have no proof for that, do you? Muhammad believed in idol even before islam.

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's
Apostle said that he met
Zaid bin 'Amr Nufail at a
place near Baldah and this
had happened before
Allah's Apostle received the
Divine Inspiration. Allah's
Apostle PRESENTED A DISH OF MEAT
(THAT HAD BEEN OFFERED TO HIM BY THE PAGANS) to Zaid bin 'Amr,
but Zaid refused to eat of it
and then said (to the
pagans), "I do not eat of
what you slaughter on
your stone altars
(Ansabs) nor do I eat
except that on which
Allah's Name has been
mentioned on
slaughtering." (Sahih al-
Bukhari 7:407

With that, how do you prove Muhammad believed in the true God.
[size=16pt] GBAM....GBAM...AND GBAM. MATTER FINISH... grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Not Even A Christian by plappville(f): 8:58pm On Oct 05, 2015
MuttleyLaff:
It does matter because of the following 5 reasons:

#1 Paul, the Apostles, early believers, disciples or saints never called themselves Christians
#2 This Christian word, just like negro/nigger, was used by, others, of early believers, disciples or saints
and not used by early believers, disciples or saints of themselves
#3 Paul, the Apostles, early believers, disciples avoided the Christian word and the use of it.
#4 You wont find any of the New Testament authors using the christian word to describe themselves or to describe fellow believers, disciples or saints
#5 Last and importantly, the word ''Christian'' is a term of the world,
people who belong to the world imposed the word ''Christian'' on early believers or disciples
so, instead of conforming to the world,
it is best to use the words of God, used to describes those who are His
and particularly take heed of 1 John 4:5-6.

5These people belong to the world.
That's why they speak the thoughts of the world, and the world listens to them.
6We belong to God. The person who knows God listens to us.
Whoever doesn't belong to God doesn't listen to us.
That's how we can tell the Spirit of truth from the spirit of lies.
1 John 4:5-6

Jesus never called or described those who had faith in Him christians.
God has never called any believers, disciples, brethren or saints a Christian

Non sequitur

The Christian word shares a similar contemptuous undertone as the negro/nigger word did and still does, thats why

Some are so stucked in the church system and tradition
they hardly ask the why-questions or face the truth,
as this will mess up the pet-doctrines and strong opinionated beliefs they were raised upon.
Him and johnw74 absolutely have NO scriptural verse backing that Paul, the Apostles, early believers, disciples or saints, ever called themselves Christians
Suffice to say there is hope

Put it this way, it's black-and-white ​issue, as the fact is clear and truth out there
You are right there is no scripture to prove the apostles called themselves"Christian" just as you stated up there. That's how I understood it to be too. But would it be a sin if the a Christian call another Christian "{CHRISTIAN}? Will this be an obstacle to one's salvation? I think we focus too much on non important issues than the Important. That's why too much division in the body.
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 4:05pm On Oct 05, 2015
BABAAGBALABA:
you hate what u don't understand or what you choose to hate
I dont understand that the true muslim are those who kill like thier prophet? They follow the order of al.lah to kill those who do not believe. The others who do not kill are the casual/modern muslims. I saw a document on Syria. There was one 11 years old boy reciting the koran in the almost mosque. His dad is a member of the islamist group. He was telling them to continue to fight for al.lah. during thier meeting on how to advance. The leader ask who is ready to die for allah. All raised hands up. But one was choosed. Its like a turn by turn thing. They belt him with bomb and he went in a tall building. Shouted allah. Wakuba the bomb exploded and killed about 50 people including himself. He has done his duty for allah. His reward is waiting him in heaven. You are not following mohammed instructions thats why u come here to defend. These men are proud and will recite the koran to back thier actions. Be ranting in NL..na ur own life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Masturbation A Sin? by plappville(f):
*Edited*


For a christian it is a Sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witnesses Latest Updates. by plappville(f): 3:46pm On Oct 05, 2015
uprightman:
Jehovah’s Witnesses
—Who Are We?
We come from hundreds of ethnic and
language backgrounds, yet we are
united by common goals. Above all, we
want to honor Jehovah , the God of the
Bible and the Creator of all things. We
do our best to imitate Jesus Christ and
are proud to be called Christians . Each
of us regularly spends time helping
people learn about the Bible and God’s
Kingdom . Because we witness, or talk,
about Jehovah God and his Kingdom,
we are known as Jehovah’s Witnesses .
Explore our site. Read the Bible online.
Learn more about us and our beliefs.
I am not a JW, but i must say you are the only dinomination that preach Christ under whatsoever weather condition. During the heavy snow period i see JW going from gate to gate. Last week i saw two holding umbrellas preaching under the rain. I know people criticise JW alot. But i must confess they are not better than JW. Forget the doctrine they hold. No dinomination can say thier doctrine is perfect. What is most important is believing in God, his Son as the Messiah and the Holy Spirit. Then put to practice the word of God without over interpretating the bible. The problem of the church today is misinterpretation. If we had let the word of Christ to interprets itself Christians would be joined together in one hamony.
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 3:27pm On Oct 05, 2015
Simple Question the Op ask. You peopl cannot answer instead ranting....

By the way. If this is truelly al.lahs name then why the contrary?
Allah's name No: 3 الرَّحِیمُ
Ar-Rahim: The Merciful
Meaning: He who acts with extreme kindness
Found In Quraan Ayah(s): (2:163)(3: 31)(4:100) (5:3)

So why sharia and wrapping oneself with bomb to kill millions who do not believe? And even worse killing those who spend thier hard earned money to worship him? undecided
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 3:23pm On Oct 05, 2015
aminusanti:
This shows u don't even know what u doing.
What's trinity? Go educate yourself first about your own religion before you come up here talking trash. Don't just call jesus son of God call your whole family begotten children of God or God sister if you like, it bother no one that knows what he is doing.
Bring out the word trinity from the bible then clap for urself that you know what you are arguing about. Jesus is the Son of God. Died and rose again from the dead. Muhammad missed it too... tongue
Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by plappville(f): 2:56pm On Oct 05, 2015
You are right. Muhammed the actor only distroled 359 gods/idols and kept allah the most powerful of the others. You can see how allah has been harming the entire world. Including his savants the muslims. Drinking innocent blood each second . cry
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 2:45pm On Oct 05, 2015
truthman2012:
Sister, these muslims are fraudulent. I think it is time to begin exposing them. The french government is using its money to breed terrorists unknowingly.
By the time the French government will realise, it will be to late. The secular nations that claim there is no God are more Godly hearted than the so-called muslim. Human blood is like water to them...
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 2:43pm On Oct 05, 2015
aminusanti:
No. God jesus in it trinity form brainless apes
You missed it. Jesus is the son of God. And this hurt islam to the core!!
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 2:42pm On Oct 05, 2015
truthman2012:
Was it allahh who created the universe?

Who knew allahh in Isreal before the advent Muhammad?

Afterall Muhammad said allahh is not Yahweh: Quran 9:29, Quran 109:1-6

Satan manipulatively introduced an idol (allahh), the chief of arabian idols as the true God.
This Arabian god has done so much harm to my people. Pathetic. .. cry
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 2:37pm On Oct 05, 2015
lexiconkabir:
Allah that created the whole universe and mankind!
You lied, The God of The Jews, the Torah/bible is the Creator of the Universe. Islam God was fabricated. Dont pretend as if you do not know. Islam claimed the Almighty has 99 names and in Judaism there said to be 72 names of God. Does this still sounds like Allah is thesame as Yahweh? Is Allah the God of Abraham,  Isaac and Jacob? No. Islam adopted allah prior to muhammed cleaning out the Kaaba of its pagan idols and making it a place of worship for allah, Allah was but one of 360 idols that stay in the Kaaba in Mecca. (Where Satan stays.) Its like a Greek man entering the Parthenon and clearing out every god and goddess but Zeus and proclaims him as the one true god. This is essentially what Mohammed did when he cleaned the Kaaba in Mecca. Don't be ignorant. This is the very Bitter truth. This also shows allah of the koran is not yahweh.

The Satanic Verses incident is a big blow to Islam.. grin



not the god of the bible that "inspired" men into saying:- rabbit is ruminant, earth does not move, God regrets and gets troubled, parents to stick a thumb wrapped with a white cloth into the v'agina of their daughters to prove her virginitywink and so many absurdities. undecided
Relax with this man! Because am so sure you are referring to Muhammad. ..a child molest.

Sahih Muslim
Chapter 10: IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO GIVE THE HAND OF HIS DAUGHTER IN MARRIAGE EVEN WHEN SHE IS NOT FULLY GROWN UP.
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 12:37pm On Oct 05, 2015
By 2050 Muslims would constitute a greater number in the world, just keep wailing!
You are right. Seeing how they are runing to the West where they give them free everything. Them go dey born like pure water na. Here in the West. One muslim man has more than three women . They all declare to be single mothers collecting a single mother allowance and each has 3-5 kids. Why the French man will have only 1 or two kids. Considering the cost of living as they dont get free allowance like the thieves do. So dont decieve yourself Islam growth is not by conversion.
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 12:30pm On Oct 05, 2015
aminusanti:
Attention seekers. This is how it all started with most of the converts..You pple should Just keep trying hard to study islam for criticism, one day you will reach a point of joining all your dots to conclude islam is the only religion accepted by GOD, by then the battle will only remain between you and your hypocrisy
God? the God of Israel or the a.ll.ah that drank the blood of more than 700 people worshiping him? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by plappville(f): 12:09pm On Oct 05, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.
Did you see the word if there before judging? The law is placed if you want the cause on you then the married woman should go and have a thin with another man. I think it's a law to protect marriage. If you disobey the Las that prohibites you from drug. You will surely face the penelty. For example, Will u be so nice to accept ur wife to bring another man's pregnancy to you? Of course no. You will even kill her with the pregnancy. The marriage union is a sacred one to God. These were made to protect the marriage. No proof if any women was found guilty of this crime in the bible. If u have one. It will be nice to show us. Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: 26 Signs We Are Living In The End Time! Don't Ignore by plappville(f): 11:41am On Oct 05, 2015
THanks op. Its a nice alarm. I pray that God help us all.
Islam › Re: Why Did Allah Save Jesus From Death But Allowed Muhammad To Eat Poison? by plappville(f): 5:59am On Oct 05, 2015
Demmzy15:
Crucifixion of Jesus is for another time, I no get your time!
You brought it up, not treat it? undecided


Paulines are confused than ever, I thought you guys said Prophet Muhammad copied from the bible. So according to you perverted church, angels decieve?! Oh! I forgot that according to Christianity angels had sex with humans, I'm not surprised!
Paul was certified an apostle by other Apostles. But mohamed, no one certified him. Its always him and his angel in secret...

Indeed this is desperation to attack Islam, Bilal had converted even before meeting the Prophet Muhammad and many others. The fact remains that one of the most bloodiest conversion was by Christians, killing and burning Jews alive. Eating dead bodies of Muslims that's what Christianity is all about.
No see The Hadith by yourself. Do you mean Catholic?

[size=14pt]This is the story of Abu Sufyan:  When the Meccan leader visited the Muslim army camp in 630 in an attempt to convince Muhammad not to make war, he was chased into their prophet's presence at the point of a sword.  There he was “invited” to embrace Islam:

[Muhammad] said, “Woe to you, Abu Sufyan, isn’t it time that you recognize that I am Allah’s apostle?” He (Abu Sufyan) answered, “As to that I still have some doubt.” I (the narrator) said to him, “Submit and testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head,” so he did so. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 814)

No word of admonishment from Muhammad is recorded. The Prophet of Islam fully accepted the “conversion” and immediately made use of Abu Sufyan to further his political goals. 

After he had conquered Mecca, Muhammad began ordering the executions of those who had insulted him or apostatized.  One of these was his former scribe, Abdullah bin Sa’d, who transcribed Muhammad's “revelations” from Allah, but lost his faith in the "prophet" when the latter adopted suggested editing (Allah’s word was supposed to be unalterable).  Abdullah saved himself by reverting back to Islam in Muhammad’s presence at Mecca as the prophet of Islam waited for someone to strike off his head:
The apostle remained silent for a long time til finally he said ‘yes.’  When Uthman [and Abdullah] had left, he said to his companions who were sitting around him, “I kept silent so that one of you might get up and strike off his head!”  One of the Ansar said, “Then why didn’t you give me a sign, O apostle of Allah?”  He answered that a prophet does not kill by pointing. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819).

Several poets were murdered by Muhammad at Mecca for the crime of having mocked him.  Another such poet, named Ka’b bin Zuhayr, saved his own skin by converting to Islam after finding no other way to avoid execution. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 888-889).

The Hadith also records that many other Meccans converted to Islam under obvious duress.  As one apprehensive observer noted to Muhammad at the time:

(They embraced Islam because) they were defeated at your hands (and as such their Islam is not dependable). (Sahih Muslim 4453)

These sorts of conversions were fully recognized by Muhammad, as proven by this hadith, in which he rebukes a soldier for killing a person who had "converted" merely to save his life:

Allah's Apostle sent us towards Al-Huruqa, and in the morning we attacked them and defeated them.  I and an Ansari man followed a man from among them and when we took him over, he said, "La ilaha illal-Lah."  On hearing that, the Ansari man stopped, but I killed him by stabbing him with my spear.  When we returned, the Prophet came to know about that and he said, "O Usama! Did you kill him after he had said "La ilaha ilal-Lah?"  I said, "But he said so only to save himself."  The Prophet kept on repeating that so often that I wished I had not embraced Islam before that day.  (Bukhari 59:568)


(Note that Muhammad was not in the least bit concerned that the victims were slaughtered while fleeing the Muslim army.  This is another strike against the myth that Muslims are only supposed to fight in self-defense).

By this time Muhammad was spreading Islam by any means necessary.  He was even using captured wealth to buy loyalty:

Allah's Apostle gave (gifts) to some people to the exclusion of some others. The latter seemed to be displeased by that. The Prophet said, "I give to some people, lest they should deviate from True Faith” (Bukhari 53:373).

Muhammad actually captured a man’s wife and children, then used them as leverage to force his conversion: this same thing his followers do today to grow Islam. (The Nigeria 200 girls) they were all married to book men. Some had babies. I saw one girls on interview. She narrated how book forcely use them and get them pregnant. She said she wouldn't like her baby to be a boy. That she is sure the child will follow his dad's steps.

The apostle told them to tell Malik that if he came to him as a Muslim he would return his family and property to him and give him a hundred camels. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 879)
Islam was being cheapene.
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