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Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by plappville(op): 3:33pm On Oct 15, 2015
Rich4god:
I am not siding any party on this issue. But there is nothing wrong in having multiple holy site by a religion. But the problem now is mostly not about religion, but about power. On the part of Israel, they are trying to protect their citizens from the threat of terrorist cells in Gaza/pakistan... While on the other hand, the Muslims are seeing it as Israeli occupation of Al Aqsa mosque. What ever be the case, their shld be a diplomatic way out of this. But its like na only gun some people like. Them no dey write terrorist for face, so Israelis might be right in putting up a blockage.

My own is... Why havent the UN waded into this matter.
Ok. But why in someone palour?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by plappville(op): 3:30pm On Oct 15, 2015
Rich4god:
I am not siding any party on this issue. But there is nothing wrong in having multiple holy site by a religion. But the problem now is mostly not about religion, but about power. On the part of Israel, they are trying to protect their citizens from the threat of terrorist cells in Gaza/pakistan... While on the other hand, the Muslims are seeing it as Israeli occupation of Al Aqsa mosque. What ever be the case, their shld be a diplomatic way out of this. But its like na only gun some people like. Them no dey write terrorist for face, so Israelis might be right in putting up a blockage.

My own is... Why havent the UN waded into this matter.
I am 100% sure its about "religion" and Power!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by plappville(op): 3:25pm On Oct 15, 2015
zeetyzin:
Are u looking to start anoda religious e-war?...cmon, u really don't need it.peace
What makes it aound like am looking for e-war?
Just asked some questions. . undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f): 3:16pm On Oct 15, 2015
You just want to keep repeating. .... grin

It is well!
Christianity Etc › Jerusalem The Holiest City In The World by plappville(op): 3:02pm On Oct 15, 2015
I have tired of seeing violence video on the media about this Beauty city called Jerusalem. So i have come up with some worried questions.

Jerusalem is one of the oldest city and the holiest city in the world. This city is supposed to be a HOLY CITY for the people of the Book (the bible) as muhammed call them. tongue my question is this. What is. What is Islam holy site doing there? Why didnt islam mentain thier holy sites in Meccan and Medina instead fighting to over take the Jews? How many Holy sites should a true religion have? Do the Christian OR Judaism have a holy site in Saudi? If no why?
Christianity Etc › Re: The MOST Merciful Religion Of "PEACE"! by plappville(f): 1:52pm On Oct 15, 2015
KanwuliaJara:
I am not referring to NOBODY.
Is there a correlation between religion and violence? wink

If so, what religions take the front row?

For moi, CHRISTIANS na the worst as I tried to illustrate with the death of their "CHRIST". wink
Whats your problem with the Cross? I can see your dad just bought you a new smart phone.. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Wearing The Hijab Makes Me Feel Liberated Not Oppressed by plappville(f): 1:34pm On Oct 15, 2015
Keep deceiving yourselves with your idol god all.ah. The blood sock.er.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 1:22pm On Oct 15, 2015
krattoss:
Every religion at on point in time, persecuted, but some have stopped while some are still persecuting
Muslim dont persecute, they terrorise the entire world. They do so because they are convinced of their right to rule the world and subject it to their rule. It doesn’t matter what country they are in, in the mind of the the true Muslims, the country must bow to their laws while they (muslims )in return don’t have to obey the laws of that land. Its all about domination. If muhammed had not instructed them to dominate. We wont be here discussing Islam.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 1:16pm On Oct 15, 2015
Annunaki:
And you will never see any outrage on the side of 'conservative' muslims condemning these extremists yet if you draw a simple cartoon of that paedophile there will be outrage all over the muslim world. Bunch of pathetic losers. angry
They cant condemne what thier religion supports. You know the reason why they attacked the French magazine Charlie HEBDO last year was because Charlie caricatured thier prophet. They killed journalist and artists and the same day they entered a Jewish super market. Killed the Jews and asked who were christians. Hopefully some people were hiding in the storehouse they could have finish all the people in the shop if the security was not en time. True muslims must kill for Muhammad.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 10:52am On Oct 15, 2015
Annunaki:
Muslims can you deny this genocide carried out by your best example as well?
They just bomb 106 people in Ankara Turkey last Saturday. The koran get force umm : angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 10:39am On Oct 15, 2015
johnydon22:
[b][i]Islam is a religion of peace but if you say otherwise they will kill you just to prove Islam is a religion of peace...
grin grin . I only see the piss in place of PEACE.... tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 10:35am On Oct 15, 2015
[size=14pt][Think of it, Hindus living with Jews no problem, Bahá’i living with Jews no problem, Jews living with Hindus no problem, Sikhist living with hindu no problem, Hindus living with bais no problem, Christians living with Jews no problem, Jews living with buste no problem, Shintos living with Odinist no problem, Buddist living with Sikhists no problem, Baháis living with christians no problem, buddist living with Shintos no problem, buddist living with Hindus no problem, hindus living with Christians only a rare problem, Odinist living with buddist no problem, confucianist living with Hindus no problem, Odinist living with confucianist no problem.

And now lets see. Muslims living with the Jews PROBLEM, muslims living with SIKHISTS problem, muslims living with Hindus problem, muslims living with Baháis problem, muslims living with Shintos problem, muslims living with buddist problem, muslims living with christians problem, muslims living with Odinist problem, Muslims living with muslims very BIG problem.

So this led to’ they are not happy in Gaza, Egypt, Libya, Iran,Irak, Yemen,Pakistan, Syria Lebanon, Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan,Morocco, and Afghanistan. So where are they happy? They are happy in AUSTRALIA, BELGIUM, FRANCE HOLLAND, ITALY, Germany, Spain Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Denmark, they are happy in the USA and Canada. They are very happy in ENGLAND more for the welfare benefits. They are happy in every country that is not islamic. And who do they blame?not Islam, not thier leadership, not themselves they blame the countries they are happy in and they want to change the countries they are happy in to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy. Islamic Jihad, un islamic terror organisation, isisi, alquida, talibans, boko haram, allusswa, Abu Sayyaf, ,Abyan islamic army,muslim brotherhood,lashkar-e-Tiba, égyptien islamic jihad, Ansaru, Abdullah Azzam brigades ,alshubab somalia. Hamas, Hezbollah, islamic jihad union, there are lot more. All terrorism today around the world is islamic. Not a hate but the bitter truth.


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Christianity Etc › Can Muslims Deny Thes? Picture! by plappville(op): 8:57am On Oct 15, 2015
The undeniable islamic terrorism acts in history.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f): 8:44am On Oct 15, 2015
Matthew 13:57 – And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”

Luke 13:33 – In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day–for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem!


Did Jesus not say He is a PROPHET here undecided Did he says I am God/YAHWEH i have come down to this earth to spread my word?! No! God cannot be the son Of David. Or will He have a MOTHER. He is above all.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f): 8:37am On Oct 15, 2015
Richirich713:
What are these several verses of proof.




Moses calls the angel Yahweh at the burning bush, moses says that Yahweh made a covenant with the Jews.

The angel says he is Yahweh and says the Jews broke his covenant he made with them.

Secondly saying the bible does not identify jesus as Yahweh is false.

But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, 'Hosanna to the Son of David,' they were indignant. 'Do you hear what these children are saying?' they asked him. 'Yes,' replied Jesus, 'have you never read, "From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise?"'" Matthew 21:15-16

O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! You have set your glory above the heavens. From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise because of your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger." Psalm 8:1-2

Next remember John said Isaiah saw Jesus yet the old testament say Isaiah saw the Lord Yahweh.






[size=18pt]I don't see the argument? is cuz jesus is a prophet he can't be the incarnation of Yahweh.[/size]

If that were true I wonder why every creature in heaven is worshiping a prophet who is just a creation in Revelation, cuz the bible says the lamb is praise and worship.

The lamb can only be worship if he is Yahweh.
Cuz we no Yahweh says we must only worship him and only serve him.
So who do you say this verse is referred to?

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

A prophet just like MOSES, same ISRAELITES. : see the confirmation again here {{ But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, [size=16pt]'Hosanna to the Son of David,'[/size] they were indignant. 'Do you hear what these children are saying?' they asked him. 'Yes,' replied Jesus, 'have you never read, "From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise?"'" Matthew 21:15-16}}

AGAIN, See the NT interpreting the OT this make it clear evidence.

John 12:49 “For I have not spoken on my own authority; but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak.” Is Jesus all knowing to you here? No. He said His father has put words in his mouth. When he says, i am the ALPHA AND OMEGA, flash back to john12:49.
Christianity Etc › Re: Wearing The Hijab Makes Me Feel Liberated Not Oppressed by plappville(f): 8:13am On Oct 15, 2015
Anas09:
@bashbabe.
I don't expect anything less from you. Am not surprised at ur out bust. Violence in u guys is a word away.
You don't feel oppressed wearing the hijab then why are u crying abt it? U were asked a question above. The Christian Sisters who wear long skirts, long sleeve blouses and tie their hair, don't they look decent enough? Why are they not wailing? Why are the Nuns not winning because they wear vails?
You rush to insults. That's the Muhammadan(Poo be upon him) spirit in you. Smh
If u don't want people complaining or looking at u differently, go to ur country.
Dont mind her. They are trained to pretend. Only few trus thier lies.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f):
Richirich713:
Since u people don't believe Jesus is God.

Could u plz explain what does Jesus mean wen he quotes OT passages referring to Yahweh and says it refers to himself.
I can understand your position in this verse you hold strongly to. There was a thread about Jesus been the Archangel. It was a very long debate but after several verses of proof, there were calm in that thread. Many agreed because the bible spoke for itself. See link....

https://www.nairaland.com/1103279/michael-archangel-really-jesus-revelation#12967013

Why does the NT apply OT passages which refer to Yahweh to Jesus ?

Why does the NT apply titles and names of Yahweh to Jesus.
Its a nice question.This cant be ignored if truly we seek to know the truth. I have come across several scriptures too, where The NT writers often apply OT passages which speak of certain characteristics or acts of Yahweh to the Lord Jesus. But If proper study is not done, one can easily conclude or arrive at a point to believe that the NT writers are clearly referring Lord Jesus Christ was the incarnation of Yahweh. i.e. that Yahweh God Almighty had become an actual human being in the person of the Lord Jesus. But the bible does not teach that Yahweh the Almighty is or was an Angel.
Yahweh is all knowing the angels is not.
Consider this verse.. if you say otherwise the you mk Yahweh a liar.

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.



Or do u just ignore all that?
Its not possible to ignore the bible. We all seek for the truth but we ought to be careful when doing that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Wearing The Hijab Makes Me Feel Liberated Not Oppressed by plappville(f): 9:45pm On Oct 14, 2015
Move to islamic section Please. .. huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Said Who Am I To Judge? by plappville(op): 9:00pm On Oct 14, 2015
invisibility:
Bros stop joining the western world to support this senseless lie. No human being existing is born gay. In fact no one is born with knowledge of sex. When you were a baby did you know what sex is?

Homosexuality is an acquired sexual orientation that needs rehabilitation to reverse it same way as prostitution.

People pick up the habit along the way same way as smoking and many gay successfully quit the evil habit. No human being is born a smoker or a prostitute.

These are bad habits people acquire as they grow up.
TRUE TALK!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Could This Dream Mean? by plappville(f): 8:47am On Oct 14, 2015
vybzkartel:
In my dream i was climbing a very long ladder to get to the second floor of a story building
The ladder was not well positioned so i was scared all throughout climbing but i succeeded in making it to the top
Then i was playing football
small posts backyard kind of football
i was defending
There were lots of attacks against my team but i defended solidly not to concede a goal
once i was dribbled but shockingly the ball still couldnt penetrate my goal
any interpretations?

Thanks in advance
You have made it in ur dream by climbing to the top. This is good. But you must know that those attacks represent enemies. They are not sleeping and are ready to bring you down again if you dont stay tight in PRAYER.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Could This Dream Mean? by plappville(f): 8:42am On Oct 14, 2015
ENGRJCJ:
Urs is a nice dream I guess but my own case is different coz I keep seeing my self in secondary school whereas I graduated from uni four years ago.
A set back dream. You can over come it by prayer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:38am On Oct 14, 2015
chuna1985:
Please quote scriptures.
Polygamy is a “man-made” idea. It is not in agreement with God’s plan for marriage. Anything tht does not agree with what God has done or said is sin. God’s plan is one man and woman for life (Genesis 2).


Mathew 19:5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?
Note: not his wifes. Disobedient to this is a sin.

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So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."

Note again: Two become one flesh not three or four. When a man marry a women it is GOD that join them. When he marries two he joins himself. This is not from GOD. HE BREAKS THE MARRIAGE COMMAND. Its a "SIN"
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:26am On Oct 14, 2015
Lanre747:
NEW TESTAMENT SAYS:

Luke 16:29-31
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Which new order? The prophets did not speak of a new order, so who authorised it? LOL@Abraham was not a Christian. Dumb comment.

Hear this also:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If you have interpreted any writing to contradict or do away with the law and prophets, then you better ignore it, according to scripture
mathew 19:8 Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 8:24am On Oct 14, 2015
thorpido:
You guys just don't get it.I'll use an illustration to explain this.

A bottle of coca-cola is sometimes used to sell kerosine.The fact that the coke bottle is used for kerosine,does it mean that that was its purpose?
When God created the human being,He made one man(Adam) and gave him one woman(Eve)to be his wife.He could have given him options of two or three women at that time but He gave him one setting for him an example.When man(Adam) sinned,he lost the glory of God and started functioning in sin and the lust of the flesh.He started taking women.God knew man. Had falling into sin and even though it was not His perfect plan for man,God allowed it.That was why the prophets of old had many wives and God still related with them.
Now jesus has come and restored the glory of man through His redemptive work.Man now has been restored to the original 'default setting'of one man-one wife.Christians are to have one wife.

The prophets of old were not Christians !

I hope you guys can get it now.Stop talking about Abraham,Moses,David etc in your ignorance.Jesus' coming brought a new order.
[size=16pt]NICE ONE BRO....

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Christianity Etc › Re: Before Or After The Cross: Christ And Him Crucified by plappville(f): 8:04am On Oct 14, 2015
Goshen360:
I was going to respond in details to your quest but my brother above had done much work but I'll later add more. You are still looking at the OT being quoted in the NT as a STANDALONE scriptures instead, see these quoting from OT in the NT as the Apostles explaining those scriptures IN THE LIGHT OF THE FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST OR IN THE REVELATION OF CHRIST.

Berean Literal Bible
And having begun from Moses and from all the Prophets, He interpreted to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
Luke 24:27

So, with this understanding to us in this age\time\dispensation, how should be study the OT (I never said we shouldn't read or study the OT no more), we should stop reading\studying the OT as if Christ HAD NOT gone to the cross; we should study it in the revelation, understanding and light of the finished works of Christ.

I will explain more when I treat the Christian virtues in the OP using some OT examples and NT ways in the finished works of Christ as taught my the Apostles
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Christianity Etc › Re: Before Or After The Cross: Christ And Him Crucified by plappville(f): 4:06pm On Oct 13, 2015
GooseBaba:
Hehehehe, Bros I hail ohhh.. The guy already understands fully. Anything else will be deliberate attempt to delude oneself.

Crucifixion was the order of the day used by the Romans, it did not start with Christ. So if Christ was hanged, the hang man's rope becomes a symbol of righteousness.. grin..the cross is a symbol of death. Just like a hang rope is a symbol of death. If you can elevate the cross to such righteous status what about the nails..? grin

Mind you he "died" on the cross just like the two thieves beside him. Clearly he died for his actions, just like the two criminals died for theirs.
There was bomb blast in Turkey on Saturday ...what were you doing here? tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: Before Or After The Cross: Christ And Him Crucified by plappville(f): 4:04pm On Oct 13, 2015
you fail to understand that the OT was fufilled in the new.
Why then the apostles still refer to it?
Christianity Etc › Re: Before Or After The Cross: Christ And Him Crucified by plappville(f): 4:02pm On Oct 13, 2015
If i May ask, do you have a bible containing both OT and NT or u ve only the NT? Apart from James used of the OT i stated early, The apostle Peter a leader among the apostles also played a major role in the early Church. Peter’s only preserved letters are his two epistles, 1 and 2 Peter.

What do these letters tell us about how Peter viewed the OT and God’s law? While the subject of law-keeping nowhere comes up directly in Peter’s epistles, what he does write makes his views crystal clear.

He repeats God’s command in Leviticus 11:44, telling us to “be holy in all your conduct, because it is written [in the OT], ‘Be holy, for I am holy’ ” (1 Peter 1:15-16). Peter quotin Isaiah 40:8, he reminds us tht “the word of the Lord endures forever” (1 Peter 1:25).

He compares the Church to a new temple being built for God (1 Peter 2:5) and describes Church members as a new priesthood dedicated to serving God (1 Peter 2:5-9). He refers to Sarah, Abraham and Noah (1 Peter 3:6-20) to illustrate various points in his letter. In his first epistle, he quotes from the OT several times as the authority for what he is saying.

In his second epistle, written shortly before his death (2 Peter 1:14-15; compare John 21:18-19), Peter reminds us tht the OT prophets spoke (and wrote) under the inspiration of God’s Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20-21).

He speaks of the fearful judgment God brings on mankind for sin, using as examples the sin filled world of Noah’s day and the degenerate cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, which God exterminated as “an example to those who afterward wuld live ungodly” (2 Peter 2:5-6).

He also uses the prophet Balaam as an example of the disobedience to God’s. The OT is always a reference for us. Like i said Before. Sure there are some laws Christ put a stop to like. The Sacrificial law. He became the Lamb and our priest.

Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Why yet the apostles like Peter Paul and other still make reference to the OT? undecided
It is very easy to say yes i love God with all my heart and i love my neighbour.
Christianity Etc › Re: Before Or After The Cross: Christ And Him Crucified by plappville(f): 11:07pm On Oct 12, 2015
Mon frère ça va? I dont get ur point. Are you not aware Jude,Peter,John ,James just to name a few of Christ Apostles used the old testament as reference several times. This is sure after Christ crucifixion. I will just point out one case. For example, James upholds keeping God’s commands when he writes: “If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself,’ you do well” (James 2:8; quoting Leviticus 19:18). He goes on to explain that we cannot pick and choose which of God’s commands to obey before concluding that we must speak and act “as those who will be judged by the law of liberty” (James 2:12).

James also tells us that simply saying we have faith and believe in God is useless—because even the demons acknowledge as much (James 2:19). He uses the Old Testament examples of Abraham and Rahab to show that our faith must be accompanied by actions—that faith without works is dead (James 2:17-26). How can we do away with the OT when the law of God did t say so? There is no how you use the NT without referring back to the old one. The both interprets each other. Christ saying it is finish does not say Condemn the Law. No. He just finish certains laws. Am not agree on the OP shall.
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Christians Now Practicing Polygamy And Even Call To It by plappville(f): 10:24pm On Oct 12, 2015
chuna1985:
Show me in d bible where God said polygamy is a sin...please don't tell dis long stories.
It is not accpted by God. Its like divorce issue. Therefore, it's a sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f): 10:20pm On Oct 12, 2015
Jessicha:
All angels , GBAM !



Stop contradicting yourself now , if an angel is uncreated , that scripture will not say ALL , dont you know the meaning of "ALL"

grin grin
I tire for this bros ooo... cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Father Of Jesus Is The Only True God by plappville(f): 10:15pm On Oct 12, 2015
Don't forget someone greater gave this authority to Him. If He is Yahweh how can he give himself something He already has? And also remember. Jesus will give back the Kingdom to God.

Mathew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

1corinthians 15:24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

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