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tartar9:
did your god kill? YES
did he order his zombies to kill? YES

Who is talking about God here? Muhammad and Jesus oya answer with a sincere mind. You cant provide a varse that says Jesus killed or even his apostles. But Muhammad plenty verses and they are still effective till date. Boko,alquaida etc all Muhammad’s rooted...

ifeness:
Fela is only an example. What has Jerusalem done for you? Ignorance is bliss so enjoy! Yahweh of the bible did worse. These stories are Arab men imaginations which never happened.

Did you just said ARAB men?

lekankolade:
pls if I may ask, did any Muslim ever hold u from going to church? , did u even read your bible reach where he said "judge not so that you shall not be judged? ", I'm very sure dis your argument is not about how much you love Jesus but because of the hatred for another religion.......if everybody thinks d way u reason, d world would have been a hell.....me I don't fight for God, he fights for me

To the bold. You are not a true muslim. You must kill to be one.

Teempakguy:
muhammad did all these?

lies! i don't believe it!

give me the passages and let me go and check it myself.

He did even worse things. The list is not complete. I think the OP cant put up everything. It will be too long to read. Have you not read about his biography? How He slaved people etc?how he degrade BLACK slaves? All of Muhammad's people (his wives, and Muhammad himself) owned many slaves, males and females. In his campaign against the children of Qurayza ( the Jewish tribe), Muhammad killed all the male (700-900) in one day. Then, he divided the women and the children among his people.

The Caliphs across the ages followed Muhammad's footsteps and enslaved (by hundreds and thousands) men and women who were captured in wars. Many of them were Persians and Byzantines. All the Islamic Chroniclers without exception have recorded these facts.

SalC:
And to think there was no mosque in Jerusalem when the guy did his midnight flight neither did he ever implied he flew to jerusalem yet they came and built a mosque so many years later and named it Al-aqsa just to cause trouble.

Muhammad no succeed to put mosque there na. Its was Omer his successor that the said angel Gabriel later used to initiate the building of mosque in that site.
Islam recognized the Jewish connection to the Temple Mount. But forcefully decided to plant its mosque there to honor Muhammad’s night ride revelation. Is this supposed to be a good reason? If the revelation was so important why didnt they named the Jérusalem mosque as the N°1 instead they put it n°3 and they dont really cherish it. It was done to make war with the JEWISH people in particular. Muslims hate the Jews with passion.

tartar9:
this is good,because trying to mention even a little carried out by xtians throughout their history will be impossible.

Who is a Christian to you? I think you will say a christian is anyone who go to church or who says he/she is a christian. But who did the bible call Believers in CHrist/Christians? See the definition below. Did Jesus kill? No, did his diciples kill? Did he say Christians should kill? CAPITAL LETTER NON. A true christian cannot kill. Did Muhammad kill? Yes, did his Apostles kill? Yes, did Muhammad order killing in the koran? Yes. So its normal muslims must kill. Like master like servant.

romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you.[size=16pt]And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.[/size]

ifeness:
Who gave them the weapons they use? Christianity did worse in the past and are still doing it. It is fair to say the west feed on negative religion to achieve their common goal with is Crude oil

Qoute the bible to defend your statement please. Did Jesus promote or even kill?

Annunaki:
You are a Real dunce, the quoran verse you quoted states that mecca is a place of safety yet your allahh can't keep pilgrims safe there every year, is that not evidence that allahh is a liar? That said the violence that takes place in israel today is always 100% instigated by islamist. Remove muslims from Jerusalem today and peace will return to jerusalem.

He cant defend this. All.ah is a liar. No safty in the most holiest site of islam....

Annunaki:
It's suppose to be a place of safety according to the quoran yet the devil resides there and stones pilgrims to dearth every year plus including crane accidents, can you now see it's obvious your quoran is full of lies?

That is ummm, you just spoke my mind here needless to qoute him. The malam didnt remember that the holiest site is where OGA Satan lives. Satan take thier yearly offerings by drinking thier blood. People die there yearly yet the koran calls it a place of safty

Empiree:
Olodo. Was Islam not there before establishment of Israel in 1948?. Wasn't the place peaceful prior to Balfour Declaration by the British christian/Zionist terrorists?.

Whats this nonsense all about?. Who forces you to make Islamic declaration? yeye. You still defending your man-god killers. Dont you think you make absolutely no sense.

And where is bombs going off in Mecca and Medina?. You can hardly see that. The reason is in the Quran because it is a place of PEACE & SECURITY.

Qur'an speaks. (2:125)

"Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer)." Yusuf Ali

See who is calling someone olodo is the biggest olodo in NL. Islam was not there. The platform /temple Mount area that sustained the Dome of the Rock and Mosque was built in the first century AD under the rule of Herod the Great as part of his "rebuilding" of the second Jewish Temple. How can Islam mosque be there at this time when the terror founder himself was not born? That site belongs to the JEWISH people.

Empiree:
@boldd, exactly. When so called muslim parents from pakistan did the same you blamed Islam. smh. Dont these things happen in Nigerian churches even-though it is usually church members and pastors?.

Muhammed killed and authorised killing so its normal for a muslim to kill. Cant you read and understand your koran? Jesus no did not kill nor advised anyone to kill in his doctrine.

Empiree:
You are so clueless. You have no idea of the history of the prophet(SAW) and in Medina where dealt with Jews whose qibla was towards Jerusalem and he joined them facing same direction (Jerusalem) before it was changed. Anyways, we live that story for another day.

Your prophets has no good history but bad one that is still till date.

By the way, it is clear we are talking about Masjid and or 'Jewish temple' here. But you are a christian. Clearly, you have no business in Jerusalem and Middle east.
You have no reference(Christianity) and claim to the Holy place whatsoever other than Jesus(AS) was born there.

I have Interest my dear. That same site was where the lord Jesus worshiped. The bible teaches that Jesus worshiped at Herod’s Temple and it was there that He prophesied the destruction of the temple.(Matthew 24:1–2). Jesus’ prophecy was fulfilled when the temple was destroyed by the Roman army in AD 70.

[24 Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple.
2 But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

So now you defending the very same people who killed you man-god. You are puzzled indeed!

I am a Christian not muslim. Who am i to hate the Jews because they killed Jesus? It was a prophecy that was fulfilled. Jesus himself forgave the Jews for what they did.

Empiree:
And what's this verse (8:12) has to do with my statement above?.
^ It there any correlation btw them?. No, of course.

Brainless YOU, it has everything to do with the picture you posted about a parent that forcefully killed thier child. I asked u if Jesus killed, or authorised christians to kill? If no, then this parent are not Christian. Unlike Muhammed who gave the authourity to kill. I presented you that verse for a prove and asking you to provide from the bible where Jesus or his Apostles killed anyone....you are very shallow headed man. THINK OF IT:....

ifeness:
I dream of visiting his shrine as a symbol of of appreciation for what he did/contributed to the black race and hopefully sleep there if they let me. I was furious at you calling Jerusalem a holy land when it's had no positive contribution to Africa. Like I said you opened the thread to get multiple opinions. Everyone won't worship Jerusalem like you do.

Good for you. If dreaming of it makes you feel good why not. Keep it up. I am happy exposing a murderer like Muhammad. Abi none of ur family or friend has been victims of muslim terrorist acts? They kill innocent people just because Muhammed authorised it in the koran. There are so many peaceful religion out there who cares.

Talking of contribution to Africa, even Fela that has risked all his life to condemned the evil deeds of our leaders what happened to Him? Did tis efforts change Nigeria much. no be still the suffering and smiling people dey still dey go through? My dear please let me be with my JERUSALEM matter. It makes me feel good inside me just like ur Fela shrine ..

Empiree:
So Op and others can not differentiate btw a Jew and Judaism?. Anyways, we live that for another day. As holy as Jerusalem can be, controlled by Zionist Jews, is the real reason this Holy City of Qudus (Jerusalem) is not peaceful. When it was Muslims in control it was peaceful. Now it's controlled by Jews and it's like hell on earth. Evidences are as clear as day light. Look at Mecca and Medina and see how peaceful they are under Muslim rule. Refer to my signature, please.

Qur'an speaks about "Jerusalem" a lot without mentioning its name. It's referred to in the Quran as "Holy Land". Holy Land in the Quran is not Mecca and Medina. However, one may find "Al-Qudus" in Hadith and Islamic literature used for Jerusalem. Muslim know too well holy land in the Quran is Jerusalem. You guys have a lot to learn from Muslims.

The oldest Holy city in the world and the holiest is Mecca followed by Medina follwed by Al-Qudus. Quran also refers to Al-Qudus(Jerusalem) as Al-ard Muqaddasah. You can search internet for "Al-ard Muqaddasah" and read for yourself. Al-ard Muqaddasah means a Blessed Land.


Finally, whats the noise about "honor killing" attributed to Islam?. Bigots can read this. [size=15pt]Religious Parents Beat Son To Death Inside Church Sanctuary For Refusing To Confess His Sins.[/size]
http://naijagists.com/photos-religious-parents-beat-son-to-death-inside-church-sanctuary-for-refusing-to-confess-his-sins/#comment-429831

How about this Muhammad verse?

A question muslims cant truelly answer..

ifeness:
You opened a thread,therefore you were open to other people's opinions.

Of course, But thats doesn't mean i should accept your insults.
I can as well do like you by saying that you are a slave to Fela's shrine but its none of my business if you even sleep in his shrine. Its your own cut of tea.

Annunaki:
But it's beginning to backfire as more and more countries are closing their doors to islamic migrants and even islam itself. It's only a matter of time but a time will come that most western countries will strop being politically correct and place an outright ban on islam.

Very correct of you, sure They know the implications of allowing them. Yes the reason some Western countries accept them is just for political reasons. They are ignoring the danger of doing so. By the time they will realise, it will be too late. Every one will be exposed to the danger of bombardment. ...

Imagin the French government sending imans to study in Algeria. . . The initial agreement after the terrorist attack in Paris was that they will train the imans in Paris. Later on, we heard that its better to do that in Algeria. Tell me who is wise here? The French think they are wise but it may still fall on them because this iman will be trained just like the same guys that terrorised France. Thats why they want them to be trained in an Arabian Country. Thats the secret.

maverickboy:
As much as this doesn't make any sense. you must be very happy that those countries are as good as u wish, No?

It made alot of sense,

[quote author=Empiree post=39025317][/quote]y
You muslims know the unique reason why Islam is connected to the site? This reason is found in the koran 17 Sura. It recounts the story of a dream Mohammed has where he takes a midnight ride ( al-Isra) on his flying horse al-Buraq, which had the face of a woman, the body of a horse and the tail of Peacock. The narrative of the Koran in Sura 17 describes it as follows:

Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque (in Mecca) to the further mosque (al-masjid al-Aqsa), the precincts of which we have blessed." The actual location of al-Aqsa (the further mosque) in Mohammed's dream ride is never mentioned. Early Muslims understood al-Aqsa metaphorically, or as a place in heaven. It was in late 7th century, the Umayyids claimed that the actual site of al-Aqsa was in fact the Temple Mount. Later the site of al-Aqsa was restricted to the mosque area at the southern end of the Temple Mount (the site of the current Al Aqsa Mosque). The original mosque, probably located on the site where Omar first prayed when he arrived in Jerusalem in 638, was built by the Umayyid Caliph al-Walid in the early 8th century. History even tells that it was destroyed by earthquakes several times and later rebuilt. If not for the false revelation of Muhammad, there wont be a mosque built There. Falsehood results to false claim..

ifeness:
Are you ok? Your village is not Holy or what?? Take a visit to Fela's shrine,that is a Holy land. Black people always feel inferior,why??

I have no issue with anyone addresing / Discussing fela ’s shrine as holy to him/her. We are all entitled to our opinions.
My interest is my interest, yours is yours.

Empiree:
So Op and others can not differentiate btw a Jew and Judaism?. Anyways, we live that for another day. As holy as Jerusalem can be, controlled by Zionist Jews, is the real reason this Holy City of Qudus (Jerusalem) is not peaceful. When it was Muslims in control it was peaceful. Now it's controlled by Jews and it's like hell on earth. Evidences are as clear as day light. Look at Mecca and Medina and see how peaceful they are under Muslim rule. Refer to my signature, please.

Qur'an speaks about "Jerusalem" a lot without mentioning its name. It's referred to in the Quran as "Holy Land". Holy Land in the Quran is not Mecca and Medina. However, one may find "Al-Qudus" in Hadith and Islamic literature used for Jerusalem. Muslim know too well holy land in the Quran is Jerusalem. You guys have a lot to learn from Muslims.

The oldest Holy city in the world and the holiest is Mecca followed by Medina follwed by Al-Qudus. Quran also refers to Al-Qudus(Jerusalem) as Al-ard Muqaddasah. You can search internet for "Al-ard Muqaddasah" and read for yourself. Al-ard Muqaddasah means a Blessed Land.


Finally, whats the noise about "honor killing" attributed to Islam?. Bigots can read this. [size=15pt]Religious Parents Beat Son To Death Inside Church Sanctuary For Refusing To Confess His Sins.[/size]
http://naijagists.com/photos-religious-parents-beat-son-to-death-inside-church-sanctuary-for-refusing-to-confess-his-sins/#comment-429831

You level of reasoning is very shallow. You have just proved it. Do you have to single out the action of one parents to tag Christianity? Can you bring out a verses from the Christians bible teaching parents should beat thier kids to death if they refused to confess thier sin. Only then will you make sense. Did Jesus kill? Did he forgive sins? Did her authorised killing if a sinner refuses to denounce his sin? Answer there question with the bible then u make sense. I can show u verse from the koran where Muhammad authorised killing, hence the all terrorists attack we see today.

Empiree:
So Op and others can not differentiate btw a Jew and Judaism?. Anyways, we live that for another day. [size=16pt]As holy as Jerusalem can be, controlled by Zionist Jews, is the real reason this Holy City of Qudus (Jerusalem) is not peaceful. When it was Muslims in control it was peaceful. Now it's controlled by Jews and it's like hell on earth. Evidences are as clear as day light. Look at Mecca and Medina and see how peaceful they are under Muslim rule. [/size]Refer to my signature, please.

Qur'an speaks about "Jerusalem" a lot without mentioning its name. It's referred to in the Quran as "Holy Land". Holy Land in the Quran is not Mecca and Medina. However, one may find "Al-Qudus" in Hadith and Islamic literature used for Jerusalem. Muslim know too well holy land in the Quran is Jerusalem. You guys have a lot to learn from Muslims.

The oldest Holy city in the world and the holiest is Mecca followed by Medina follwed by Al-Qudus. Quran also refers to Al-Qudus(Jerusalem) as Al-ard Muqaddasah. You can search internet for "Al-ard Muqaddasah" and read for yourself. Al-ard Muqaddasah means a Blessed Land.


Finally, whats the noise about "honor killing" attributed to Islam?. Bigots can read this. [size=15pt]Religious Parents Beat Son To Death Inside Church Sanctuary For Refusing To Confess His Sins.[/size]
http://naijagists.com/photos-religious-parents-beat-son-to-death-inside-church-sanctuary-for-refusing-to-confess-his-sins/#comment-429831

WhY WILL THERE BE PEACE IN JERUSALEM WHEN ISLAM IS PRESENT? YOU THINK U CAN COME HERE AND FAKE PEOPLE AS U DO IN THE ISLAMIC SECTION. OF COUSE WE CANT ACCEPT TO CONFESS to accept MUHAMED in other to enter the islam forum. THATS WHY YOU HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO POST ALL UR LIES IN DEFENDING ISLAM. There is no peace in Mecca either, and by the way, if the Jews built a Synagogue about 50 meters away from the so called holy site of Mecca, blood will flow each passing day. Dont comehere and tell me you know my parentvand grand parents more than me. Islam is a fabrication. Thier site is Jerusalem is just for a purpose.

Rich4god:
Apart from the temple of Jerusalem, I don't think there is any other "holy site" described or mentioned in the bible. Others where built by the "not-so-early Christians and then it turned into a pilgrim site.

You are right. After the Babylonian destruction took place, most of the Jewish population of Israel was forcibly exiled from thier land. This forced exile on the road to Babylon is mentioned in the famous verse from Psalm 137: "By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion."

Roughly fifty years later, after Babylon was captured by Persia, the Jews were allowed to return to Jerusalem. Under the leadership of Zerubavel and Nechemiah, the Jews rebuilt both the Temple and walls around the city (Nechemia 4-6). They are the right owner of this site. Islam position there is based on a false revelation given by all.ah as usual. No wonder the mosque in Jerusalem is Islam 3rd holy site.’THINK OF IT: why not thier first site if its that important for them?

achinaboy:
i have reed bible for more than 30years, but i just found out that king Solomon was a black man

More light on this please. Thanks.

Rich4god:
The holy site originally belong to the Jews.... After the ressurection of Christ, Christians now call some prominent sites that are associated with Christ "holy" later on made them a place of pilgrimage... Eg is the site of nativity, the tomb, the site of ascension, transfiguration etc.... Along the line, the Islamic jihadist conquered jerusalem, destroyed some of those site and converted others to mosque. Then came crusaders and the knight templars that sacked the jihadist. But there was some little trouble among the Christians, due to denomination, so the muslims didnt really leave. And thats why all 3 have a place in the city of jerusalem. Am not a historian, but something close to this is what happened.

Thank you very much. Looking at the bible, we will all agree that Jerusalem is originally a Jewish territory. Just like the Muslim's have Mecca as thier holiest site.
The holiest book of Islam is the Koran, which according to muslim tradition contains the teachings of MUhamed from all.ah. Unlike the Jewish Bible which contains hundreds of references to Jerusalem, the word "Jerusalem" appears nowhere in the Koran. So what is the Islamic spiritual connection to the site? They face mecca when they pray from Jerusalem, this shows this sight is not truelly mean to them, but as usual, they have mant thier mosque there to distract and make war with the true ower. History has proved that Muhammed himself has never made it to Jerusalem with his conquering armies, it was his successor, the "Caliph Omar", who captured Jerusalem from the Byzantines in 638. When Omar first visited the ruined {Temple mount,} he deliberately prayed south of the ruins of the Temple, toward Mecca, so that no one should think he was praying in the same direction as the Jews. The Muslim cannot pray facing Jerusalem. So whats the sense callin it thier holy site?
Imagin the Jews go to Mecca and claim a site to be thier holy site, Blood will flow endlessly. . All i see is still the AIM to dominate. But what will allah gain by forcing people to him?

Rich4god:
You shld ask christians same question. Why is their holy site in Jews palour?

Jesus is a Jew. The bible told us alot about Jerusalem.

Annunaki:
And allahh as been failing to achieve his evil agenda for over 1,400 years.

Muslims believe they are achieving thier aims. See as they are spreading everywhere because of war in thier countries.
Sometimes believe they deliberately mae war in order to spread Islam to none islamic countries. By this means, they will be spreading thier religion... :

truthman2012:
Islamic terrorism is allahh inspired because he hates non-muslims. Quran testifies muslims are wicked against unbelivers (non-muslims).

Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves......

Indeed they are hard against none muslims. Pathetic But they still kill muslims who are weak in faith, that is, those who do not practice te wicked part of the koran.

Richirich713:
No I just added emphasis.

Cuz u never refuted wat I wrote, instead u just put emphasis on wat u like and ignore the rest.

You said Yahweh is an angel. And that Yahweh came in the flesh. How can Yahweh the almighty God be an angel? And how can God come and die to save us?
This does not go with the messianic prophecies. Accoding to the bible, God cant die, but Jesus died. Anyway,
Its of no use going over and over again same verses as before. So lets leave it the way it is.
Like i said earlier, the fact that you believe Jesus is God and Yahweh an angel may not be an obstacle to your salvation. Same goes to me that doesn't believe Jesus is God. One thing we share in comment is that. Jesus is the son of God, the Messiah sent to come and die for the sin of all of us. If you believe in his name, you will be saved. So bro, lets leave the work to God. Thanks for ur time. God bless you.

Its all about dominating the world for a.llah

What are the historical reasons that make each of these religions to have a holy site on the Temple mount?

Is there the word Jerusalem in each of thier book.Torah, bible and koran? Please share what you know. Thank you.