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mubarakopeyemi:
see this Goat see what I asked she the bull shit she's answering.

mubarakopeyemi:

see this Goat see what I asked she the bull shit she's answering. Copy and paste ignoramus. Plapville You're not intelligent I've been saying this and ignorant you shall remain. I regret having to read all the bullshit even.



My question is simple.

Why do you christains dissociate from the OT? simple!

malvisguy212:
NO, Jesus is NOT the father, infact, it was NOT God the father that incarnate in Jesus, it was God the son. A good example is the baptism of Jesus, here we read ALL three was present at the same time.
Matthew 28:19-20
Go Therefore and make disciples of
all the nations, baptizing them in the
NAME of the Father and the Son and
the Holy Spirit, teaching them to
observe all that I commanded you;
and lo, I am with you always, even to
the end of the age."

It should be noted that the other two
names (Father and Holy Spirit) are names for God. In fact, the text says specifically that they should be baptized in the NAME (SINGULAR), not names, of the three persons mentioned. In order to be one name, they must all represent God.

dolphinheart:
I did read ur post, that was why I replied you that your views are wrong. The content of that prayer shows why jesus prayed, who he prayed to, and the relationship between him and the person he is praying to. For the fact that jesus acknowledges that he was given power and authority and that he was told all he did and said nullifies ur view that jesus was 100% God. Cus that God jesus did nothing!, as jesus said all came from the father.
As ussual, you did not explain my scripture quotes, but I will explain yours.
Jesus said " he and the father are one" does not mean he and the father are equal. Why?cus a similar request was Made for humans and it does not mean the humans and jesus and the father are equal. It is about unity!.

Same way a husband and wife become one, but they are not equal in the family. The husband is the head of the wife, just as the God is the head of Christ!.

God is well pleased with jesus as jesus has remained faithfull, even till death.

You always read verse 8 of heb chapter 1 and deliberately ommit the next verse 9. The verse explains that the person talking in verse 8 is the God of jesus!.
Jesus is a God, a mighty God. But he, the scriptures, and apostles say he has a superior God. The God that gave him all his authority and power, that elivated him above his companions , that gave him a name, that annointed him, that told him to sit at his tight Side, the God that sent him,the only true God, his father, the supreme being.

Without that God sending him to us, jesus would never have become our savior!.

malvisguy212:
1. Jesus has two natures, He is God
and man.
2. Each nature is full and complete ,
He is fully God and fully man.
3. Each nature remains distinct.
4. Christ is only one Person.
5. Things that are true of only one
nature are nonetheless true of the
Person of Christ.

Jesus is a man. A man who was possessed by God.

mubarakopeyemi:
Ignoramus i see you're obsessed with me. Go back there and see what I posted again. Your life was built with lies but that's not my business.
But you have to believe me, this time you will learn to avoid me whenever you perceive me around..
and don't think I would just engage you fully... nahh.
Just watch..

mubarakopeyemi:
let me peep in and start giving these islamophobe chtistains nightmares.
Why do Christians dissociate from the OT
Christians answer this question.

Answer: In Matthew’s record of what is commonly called the Sermon on the Mount, these words of Jesus are recorded: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

It is frequently argued that if Jesus did not “abolish” the law, then it must still be binding. Accordingly, such components as the Sabbath-day requirement must be operative still, along with perhaps numerous other elements of the Mosaic Law. This assumption is grounded in a misunderstanding of the words and intent of this passage. Christ did not suggest here that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the balance of the New Testament (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

Of special significance in this study is the word rendered “abolish.” It translates the Greek term kataluo, literally meaning “to loosen down.” The word is found seventeen times in the New Testament. It is used, for example, of the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans (Matthew 26:61; 27:40; Acts 6:14), and of the dissolving of the human body at death (2 Corinthians 5:1). The term can carry the extended meaning of “to overthrow,” i.e., “to render vain, deprive of success.” In classical Greek, it was used in connection with institutions, laws, etc., to convey the idea of “to invalidate.”

It is especially important to note how the word is used in Matthew 5:17. In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, He revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.

If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ—and thus remains as a binding legal system for today—then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it. What Jesus' death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the other aspects of the law.

mamsong9:
Do you support killing of fellow human for jesus ?

mubarakopeyemi:
[b]For the little F I gave

Quran 4:157 Yusuf Ali
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";--but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.

Quran 5:75 Yusuf Ali
Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

Quran 4:171 Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity"" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

Quran 9:30
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!


Quran 17:111
Say: "Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"


Quran 19:35
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

The very fact that Jesus was given birth, and came out as little helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus is God. It is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and screaming and being helpless and weak. Such nonsense is insulting to God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus is not God. How can you claim that God came out of a woman? Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you insult God in such a manner, you Christians should be ashamed of yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God.

Are you actually going to tell me this how God was once? You are insane! How can you logically claim that God was like a helpless baby at once?

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/091105-babies-cry-accents_big.jpg

Hebrews 5:1-8: 1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. 4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered


So Jesus cried to the one who could save him from death, this means Jesus could not save himself from death, therefore this also means Jesus cannot save anyone else from death. How can Jesus be God when he cannot save himself? This also shows that Jesus is not in control of life and death, God however is in control of everything, including life and death:

If Jesus is God one would expect him to admit he is good in the sense that God is good, meaning perfect. However when we read the Bible we see that Jesus denies being good in the sense that God is good which is perfect. Here are the passages:

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

So note, the man calls Jesus good, Jesus tells the man there is non good but God. Obviously Jesus referred to God as someone else, which also proves Jesus isn’t God. However the main importance of the passages is that Jesus denies being Good in the way God is good, which is to be perfect.

If you make a claim on someone, then you would expect that someone to back your claim up. If I claim somebody is a king, you would expect that king to say he is a king, at least once. In the OT God says he is God several times, why not once with Jesus in the NT? Did God change his ways? I think not, since the OT says God does not change. Here are the passages from the OT where God says he is God:

Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins

Gen 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:

Exd 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD your God.

Exd 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

Psa 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I [am] God, [even] thy God.

Psa 81:10 I [am] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call [thee] by thy name, [am] the God of Israel.

So as we can see, God is not shy to say I am God. SO if Jesus is God, then how come he never said it once like the God of the OT? This is not a coincidence.
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mubarakopeyemi:

I have squashed this bullshi.t before. you're just that jobless one who doesn't have something better to do.
Wasting your time.

Millerz:
No pity!! Muslims made themselves this way. Even those that aren't terrorists will try yo kill you if you say something about the Quran which they don't like.

nurex01:
Jesus (pbuh) has said dt their is a prophet dt will come after me named prophet muhammad (solalohu alehi wasalam) and he said follow his path and all what he comes with.

nurex01:
Jesus (pbuh) has said dt their is a prophet dt will come after me named prophet muhammad (solalohu alehi wasalam) and he said follow his path and all what he comes with.

lepasharon:
Who the fvck says im a muslim ?

lepasharon:
God of Nigeria nko ? We Africans already had our indigenous beleif system, it may be bullshit but it's better than being a brainwashed coon. Worshipping white Jesus is why Africans are psycholoically messed up and feel inferiors to caucasians. FOH We dont any god of Israel he aint sh*t.

maverickboy:
I sensed you are a good observer but it seems your talent has made a conspiracy theorist out of you. Muslims' internal strife does have nothing to do with that verse you quoted as millions of Muslims are currently and will continue to be living peacefully together regardless of there sectarian differences.

Current situation in muslims' community is mere misunderstanding which I strongly believe WE Muslims will overcome much sooner than YOU Christians expected. Of course, It's a challenge that somehow gives christians sense of belonging and enable them to talk back at muslims when religious issue is being discussed.

Come to think of it, why is it that christians don't miss any bad news about muslims' community and hurriedly bring it here as though it was already being expected? It's not far fetched; it makes you feel fulfiled!

However, don't be mistaken, it happened amongst christians for centuries and they eventually overcame it without making christianity less a religion to its believers. Therefore, Muslims will as well overcome it whether you like it or not.

Mind you, being Muslims doesnt exempt us from being tested on all facets of life, nowhere does Allah promised that and those that you are able to point accusing fingers at can be deemed to be those that seem to have failed to pull through.

God doesn't promise His believers that they won't be tempted in certain ways. But if your belief promised you that, then you've got to think twice.

Annunaki:
And since when did the quoran become a credible source of information

mamsong9:
While, we know you people to be liars, Jesus can never be God. Jesus is Human being like you.

mamsong9:
A very good example are your christians brothers that disgust as ISIS and are killing Muslims around the world.

Empiree:
You nailed it. Quran speaks of their hypocrisy.


[s]"......Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? but what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life?- and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For God is not unmindful of what ye do. Qur'an 2:85 [/s]

lepasharon:
When it comes to condemning gay ppl now the OT suddenly matters. You better rip that OT out of ur bible now ! Christianity is not all sunshine and rainbow and the study exposed that

lepasharon:
Oh really ? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343562/Planned-Parenthood-murder-suspect-vandalized-abortion-clinic-years-ago-according-ex-wife.html

Dont forget the child witchcraft allegations caused by some brainwashed coon of a pastor causing vulnerable kids to be abandoned often in south Nigeria.

How do you fvcking think Christianity was spread in Nigeria ?

We could say the same about you christian coons all you have is no culture persay and the religion of Europeans. Europeans flipping came to Africa and took some as slaves, they clearly didnt like Africans, why do you think they will tell you that Jesus is the way to heaven ? Why would you worship their god who allowed them to enslave our ancestors

Fvcking hypocrit

mamsong9:
In the same manner, Christians are animals for killing the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

mamsong9:
I call you MUMU because presented yourself such.
And you can tell me that am rude for calling you by your name, after all we are all humans, so we are equal.
But God is not the mate of your FATHER for you to open your filthy mouth and abuse Him.

Richirich713:
I doubt he would admit his logic backfires.

sapiosexual1:
Non........ Mais j'ai l'intérêt à fait m'entrainement spécialite au là.
Et vous? Vous s'habitez en France?