₦airaland Forum

Blankstare:
Oga from your story, your family where never rooted in Islam else you wouldn't have experienced bitterness like this...the rod na just steering, I have friends like you

Sterope:
What should Muslims minority in Christian states say?

Maybe you haven't realised this common sense. It is not fair, it is not right, minorities always feel threatened. It isn't about religion.

Instead of us to work together and solve this madness befote it depends into complete chaos. You want to fuel it. E go on sir!

gaskiyamagana:
You demonstrated peace nature of Christian before the comment you responded to now, abi?

olamoses75:
If there's only one thing I should be thankful for, it will be the fact that God makes me a Christian. My dad was an unbeliever, his dad was an herbalist and mom, a praticing Muslim when they got married. There was a confusion after their marriage pertaining which religion they should practice cus my dad, like normally African men, doesn't like the idea of praticing his wife's religion, so they contemplated on being a non-religion family. But alas, something happened (story for another day) which finally leads to their conversion. My dad is now a pastor and my mom, evangelist. I just can't imagine being a Muslim; that religion teaches only violence! Attack me all you want. Shalom!

gaskiyamagana:
Terrorist as being taught by your Lord :
"If you have no SWORD , go and sell your cloak and BUY ONE" LUKE 22 :36

Sterope:
Do you understand at all? Heard of Arabic numerals?

LLMG:
why don't you explain

gaskiyamagana:
Sharap, Shatap.

sulaak:
Muslim minorities are not threaten in majority Christian states. Muslims are safer in Southern Nigeria than in the North. they have freedom of religion and movement.

Thelife:


Seems madness is one of the pillar of Islam, not surprise, then tell your hopeless brothers to allow Christian practice there religion first before calling for hijab in Christian schools.

Oloriburuku gbogbo

Sterope:
Seriously? You are really really really ignorant then

Tranquility4u:
Continue fooling yourself till your eyes got open. You were never a Muslim. A sensible person must understand that you just fabricated the rubbish post above.

OsusuBishop:
I think you already have the answers to the questions you ask? If not, then the following questions will provide you your answers.

1. Must Muslims attend Christian missionary school? If yes, why can they respect the culture and dress pattern of the missionary schools?

2. Are there shortage of secular schools in Kwara?

3. Can a young lady appear in an Islamic school without wearing the hijab? If not, then why do you want to insist on the opposite.

I know #3 above is NO. Its impossible for a non Muslim to attend Islamic school (how will u even start sef).

I have nothing against Islam or any other religion. However, I stand for fairness, peace and social cohesion. Muslims have no business attending Christian schools if they will not respect the cultural orientation and rules of those schools.

Thanks

gaskiyamagana:
Ansarudeen Uni in Osogbo is strange identity to me. Nonetheless, I stand by you and whoever in Nigeria is denied of his /her right to practices chosen religion.

Gakinola:
trying to defend yourself with a bible verse....? You lack wisdom! Calm down, hun? There's no point arguing with senseless muslims like you, you are a fanatic and even have a soft spot for terrorists as been commanded in your book so I don't expect you to think in a logical way.

toye440:
Loved the way they schooled the governor. I believe the Fulanis are pressing the Afonjas mumu button, telling them your fellow Yorubas are infidels, how can you have infidels running your schools with no hijab.
Oya time to practice that which you have been doing in Mecca, pick up the stones and kill them all.
Trust me the Afonjas would betray in the struggle for the Yoruba nation, a prove of this assertion is your only emir in Yoruba land, Osun state.

gaskiyamagana:
What a beautiful! How bad is your Bible for me to defend myself against your Ignoramusity.

Blackmiserable:
Mr. Practicing your religion is different from practicing the way you want.

Okay, sorry, it's called Fountain Uni, I guess AND THEY HOLD ONTO CORE ISLAMIC VALUES.

Now even traditionalist are free to practice but we know what would happen if every recognised religion is allowed to practice the way they want.

Schools that hold onto core or Islamic values cannot be forced to accept contrary views.

I don't support it for Christianity, Islam, and certainly not traditional religion.

It is just basic stuff.

I mean, this is not just a school where western education is taught but I would argue that these schools are also a form of religious gatherings.

No one has any rights to tell mosque to accept female worshippers without a headcovering anymore than it is logical to force church to accept female worshippers with a hijab.

Have I convinced you now?

Mikecold:
so bad Muhammad had to steal everything in it

StreetFight:
Expel Muslim students in Ilorin schools? Even Pope will not try it. It's a lost battle.

gaskiyamagana:
Sharap Shatap
No Ijab in those schools for muslims girls, no peace in those schools. You and the likes will continue to make noise and bark till second Coming of your Lord.

blizard44:
Quite eye-opening.

Maybe this domineering thing ain't only about Fulani after all. More like an Islamic thing.

The agreements clearly show the Muslims are the troublemakers here.

Vl3ly:
do you want to hear my story also?
I was a good xtian before like 12yrs ago even I have converted 3 person in my nuclear and extended family even some are in madrasa(Islamic school)
And I pray before I reach 30yrs in Islam I would be counting 30 convertee

ENGINEERG:
Its normal, Christians will resist hijab, and Muslim will want it in Christian mission schools.

But looking at this agreement, without sentiment, one we understand that Muslims want to override Christians. Just let us be fair and sincere with our judgement..

Anyway, No one Can fight for God.
Let peace reign

FULL TEXT BELOW

KWARA STATE SCHOOLS BOARD
 
Speech delivered by His Excellency, The Military Governor of Kwara State, Colonel D. L. Bamigboye, at the Official Launching of the Kwara State Schools Board in Ilorin, State Capital, on 3/7/72

 
Civil Commissioners, Distinguised Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
I am delighted to be here this morning to launch officially the Kwara State Schools Board which came into being on the first day of June, 1972. This is a practical demonstration of the importance which my Government, among other Governments of the Federation, attaches to education.

It is gratifying to see the large assembly here this morning among whom, I understand, are proprietors, education secretaries, chairmen of boards of governors, principals of various grant-aided post-primary institutions and a lot more people from many walks of life. They are all welcome to Ilorin, the State Capital. It is my earnest prayer to wish everyone a pleasant stay in Ilorin and safe journey back home.
I want to start by acknowledging the depth of gratitude we owe to the Voluntary Agencies for the pioneering roles they have so far played in the progress of formal education in Nigeria, most especially in Kwara State.

Brief Historical Review
Some of the earliest primary schools in the country were opened by the Missions in what is today Kwara State. For instance, in 1865 the first primary school was opened at Lokoja. By 1918 similar Voluntary Agency schools were already opened at Offa,  at Ilorin and in Ogori. Gradually all the Christian Missions, Muslim Missions and Native Authorities, now Local Government Authorities, and communities became involved in establishing primary schools.
Today we have over 550 primary schools in the State. The Missions, the Native Authorities and the local communities have also contributed a great deal to the development of post-primary education in the State. As at date, there are 78 post- primary schools in the State. Of these only 3 are owned and run directly by the Government while the remaining 65 are Voluntary Agency, Community and private schools. I have gone into this aspect of the history of education in the State to show the value of team work among the Voluntary Agencies. Local communities private interests and the Government in the great task of educating our children. I hope that this tradition of team work will continue.

As many of you know, the proposal to establish Schools Board dated several years back. The National Joint Negotiation Council of 1964 under the distinguished Chairmanship of Justice Adefarasin and the Committee on the Grading Duty Posts in Voluntary Agency Institutions recommended it. Above all, the teachers themselves support it. These are concrete proofs of the desirability of the scheme hence my Government’s spontaneous reaction to it when due for consideration.

Full Scale Consultations
In my last Budget Speech I mentioned the intention of my Government to create the State Schools Board and the Local School Boards. I made good this promise in respect of one when on 18th May, 1972, I signed the Education Law ( Amendment) Edict, which gave birth to the State Schools Board on 1st June, 1972, the official launching of which we are all witnessing here today. The Board comprises seven able personalities, including a woman, to run the affairs of the Voluntary Agency grant-aided post-primary institutions. Before establishing the Board my Ministry of Education went into full scale consultations with the major Voluntary Agency institutions in the six Northern States, namely, the Protestants, the Roman Catholic, and the Islamic bodies as early as February, 1970. I am glad to announce that all the Voluntary Agency and community schools were fully in agreement and that the five “Part-time” members at this Board virtually represent these agencies although they are expected to function as individuals and according to their own best judgement.

Aspects of Education Administration.
While it is the main purpose of the State Schools Board to implement Asabia Recommendations, The Board has come in the nick of time to give concrete expression to Government thinking on certain aspects of the administration of education in this State. Of particular concern to the Government in this regard are the followings needs:-

(a) The need to have job security for teachers in Voluntary Agency Schools.

(b) The need to improve as well as unify service conditions of teachers in all Voluntary Agency Institutions.

(c ) The need for uniformly high standards between Government and Voluntary Agency institutions.

(d) The need to narrow, with the ultimate aim of closing, the gap in educational provision amongst the various areas in the State.

(e) The need to ensure adequate staffing for all schools.

The Edict establishing the Board clearly spelt out the functions of the Board which include 'power to appoint teachers (including power to make appointments on promotion, conform appointments and effect transfers) and to dismiss and exercise disciplinary control over teachers in all post – primary schools which are in receipt of Government grant-in-aid.

No Schools Takeover Yet.
It is appropriate for me at this juncture to clarify some misgivings about the State Schools Board. The term ‘take-over’ has become very current in our newspapers that it needs to be clarified in respect of our establishment of the Schools Board. I mentioned in my Budget Speech that my Government has not yet decided to take over Secondary Schools. What will now be taken over is the staff management in grant-aided post-primary institutions and NOT the institutions themselves. A total take–over of schools by Government means, among other things, a change in ownership of schools. In this connection, I want to remind the Voluntary Agencies that they are still the owner of their schools and therefore retain the rights over as well as responsibilities for them. For avoidance of doubts, let me mention some of your rights as proprietors under the new dispensation:-

   (a) The right of ownership of institutions. Proprietors still retain the greatest of proprietory rights namely, ownership of their grants aided institutions.  It should be noted that the existence of the Board will in no way detract from this.

(b) The names of schools remain as given by proprietors.

(c ) Religious orientation and practices in the schools remain generally undisturbed.

(d) The right to nominate Board of Governors with responsibility for the day-to-day management and welfare of the institutions remain unchanged. The Board of Governors will continue to function normally except in regards to staff matters which responsibility is now taken over by the State Schools Board. Finally,

(e) The total tone of the institutions remains the responsibility of the Board of Governors as the main organ of the Proprietors.

Proprietors’ Continued Participation
At this point, I want to emphasize the importance of proprietors’ continued participation. Under the new scheme the institutions whose staff management is being taken over should continue to be virile and progressive with bouyant financial support from community and Missions both for proper maintenance and necessary developments. By this I mean the mistake of the past should not be repeated whereby people misunderstood the role of the Local Education Authorities for ‘a total take-over’ of the transferred schools and consequently washed off their hands financially. I am here reiterating that proprietors still owe large duties to their institutions and these they should continue to discharge through their Boards of Governors, for example:-
the regular maintenance of the school buildings, housing of institutional staff, provisions of school accommodation, the general tone of the institution, appointment of Board’s own administrative staff and anything to do with the academic work of the school, other than teaching staff.
I hope that the Missionary as well, as the community spirits which engendered these institutions will continue to enable them to run without any financial hardship.

Finally I want to remind the State Schools Board of the enormous task ahead of it. I am sure that the Board is fully aware of the various problems which it is set up to solve I expect the Board to give the schools the best services possible and to demonstrate that with prudent management of the existing scale of financial provisions the teachers' lot can be greatly improved. The Board is set up to improve, standards and services conditions of teachers. It is also its major role to maintain discipline in the noble profession.
In Conclusion, I wish the Kwara State Schools Board many years of useful services to this State and to the country as a whole.
 
Thank you.

StreetFight:
CAN cannot win this battle in Kwara State. Ask anyone who has lived in Kwara. Kwarans are same as Kwakwasiyas when it comes to religious fanatism.

OKOATA:

I used to be a Muslim while growing up, me and my younger brother then will go to the mosque to learn Arabic, the clerics then will beat you for any little thing, they never treat you with love but cain always. The last time I stopped going to that evil mosque was the day one of those evil cleric hit me so hard on my face with his rosery that it broke and I had a swollen face. We became a christian a while after then and have known peace, most Islamic people are too babaric, callous and mean. I just don't like that religion at all. They just like fight and making trouble always. I still have Muslims friends though.

StreetFight:
Expel Muslim students in Ilorin schools? Even Pope will not try it. It's a lost battle.

gaskiyamagana:
What a beautiful! How bad is your Bible for me to defend myself against your Ignoramusity.

Tranquility4u:
Continue fooling yourself till your eyes got open. You were never a Muslim. A sensible person must understand that you just fabricated the rubbish post above.

blizard44:
Quite eye-opening.

Maybe this domineering thing ain't only about Fulani after all. More like an Islamic thing.

The agreements clearly show the Muslims are the troublemakers here.

Tranquility4u:
Continue fooling yourself till your eyes got open. You were never a Muslim. A sensible person must understand that you just fabricated the rubbish post above.

id911:
I hardly see Christian children attend muslim schools. So, my only question is why can't Muslims attend only Muslim schools to avoid all these problems? Why do they like attending Christian school but still go there to look for trouble?