yes it is, Lagos is not a residential state, its for industries

quickly:
Very soon naija will suffer when the world moves on from oil.

In about 20-30 years every one will be using electric and oil car will be antique for museum.

Oil isnt only for powering of cars.

You get many things from crude oil..

Feels like nairaland of old. Very Interesting. My take on this:
That the refinery is going to have an adverse effect on the environment .FACT
Big corporations cover up a lot. FACT.
Aliko Dangote does not fit the bill of someone who has Health, Safety and Environment on his top 10 list. The mayhem caused by his trucks. I can bet that the EIA was just for the records. Remember, he is above the law.

Ugeh:
Feels like nairaland of old. Very Interesting. My take on this:
That the refinery is going to have an adverse effect on the environment .FACT
Big corporations cover up a lot. FACT.
Aliko Dangote does not fit the bill of someone who has Health, Safety and Environment on his top 10 list. The mayhem caused by his trucks. I can bet that the EIA was just for the records. Remember, he is above the law.

Yes. This was how the forum used to be back 2005/2007 before they destroyed it and made us stop commenting.

Lagos has turned into a den of agberos. Lazy teenage yoruba boys at every bustop looking for who to harass and rob. I pray that refinery is not destroyed by the useless touts Tinubu and his useless Lagos elders are breeding.

i never see Nigeria progressing cause the next ten president will be using the country money to treat people and pay China dept so what is left then japa jama jama

a very good question. when they give dangote land, they no ask questions. that's the problem with nigeria.

For a populated city like Lagos, building a refinery there is a huge mistake. They should be ready to battle pollution issues, air, water etc. They will be prone to lung cancer or skin cancer due to contaminated water bodies... Refineries are better cited in less densely populated regions.

there is nothing special about building a refinery of such magnitude in lagos , countries which are even far far smaller than the size of Lagos state have more than one refinery in their countries . if lagos was to be a country wont it have its own refinery ?

Hashabiah:
Lagosians have not thought of the long term effect of having a refinery in Lagos. But I know by the time people start swallowing atmospheric pollution in the form smog and flue gases, then they will wake up and cry.

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BRATISLAVA:


Repeat the bolded to yourself aloud.

Do you know what fractionation means? Have you seen the gases released? You want to compare that to gasoline fumes? Even a beer refinery/brewery, what does it do? Now, imagine it's hydrocarbons being refined in there.

In the next 1—15 fifteen years, repeat that bolded aloud again.

The only thing of interest in his refinery will be the process involved. Good luck to anyone living around it. Dangite won't be the one living there.

Nigeria is not burning normal petrol. It is the dirtiest petrol on earth with 152 times the EU limit for sulfur and possibly other heavy metals like lead. Those of us living abroad can smell the contamination in the air when we set foot in Nigeria.

onatisi:
there is nothing special about building a refinery of such magnitude in lagos , countries which are even far far smaller than the size of Lagos state have more than one refinery in their countries . if lagos was to be a country wont it have its own refinery ?

Oga we are talking about the environmental impact (EIA) such a refinery will have on the state. But that not my concern ; it is the concern of those you who are indigenes of lagos.

I will do same if I were Dangote. That is the most secured state to gfuarantee his investment

Will any one advise he builds in the North, South South or South East, where his investment can be bombed at the slightest provocation. And also considering he is a Northerner.

Lagos is the ONLY place to center such.

He only needs to reduce his emissions to the barest minimum.

SavageResponse:


Oga modern refineries do not flare gas!

Does that even mean Dangote refinery will not flare gas?

Never ever compare Nigeria to Europe
I used to stay near oil refinery is Libya and

drlateef:





I live near a refinery here abroad, I have never seen air pollution or oil spill. It all depends on safety measures etc being put in place. Shell and Chevron cannot try what they are doing in Niger Delta while in Europe. Remember what happened to BP when it spilled oil in the ocean in US. They will be liquidated in no time. If we don’t kill corruption, corruption will kill us.

Never ever compare Nigeria to Europe.
I used to stay near an oil refinery in Libya and I have never experienced anything because we have access to good health care when Gadaffi was alive.
But Nigeria don't care about her citizens only Money

drlateef:





I live near a refinery here abroad, I have never seen air pollution or oil spill. It all depends on safety measures etc being put in place. Shell and Chevron cannot try what they are doing in Niger Delta while in Europe. Remember what happened to BP when it spilled oil in the ocean in US. They will be liquidated in no time. If we don’t kill corruption, corruption will kill us.

They must have done the Environmental Impact Assessment / Analysis with the state government. And I'm sure there will be quite robust risk mitigation / control measures in place for all foreseeable hazards.

You are quite wrong in your general conclusion that industries are cited in the forest. Whilst it could be a very good practice in reducing the effect of a "major top-event", Risk management in the business world is all about bringing the risk to ALARP/ALARA (As Low As Reasonably Practicable /or Achievable). Both of which is a function of cost/projected revenue.

Ever wonder why airports are cited in the cities?
With all the noise pollution, with the risk of plane dropping/ditching on you while you are sleeping?
Why city? Why not in the forest? This is what risk management is all about. You go into the business despite the risk and you CONTINUOUSLY and PROACTIVELY manage the risk.

So, they look at the POTENTIAL and the FREQUENCY of the risk then put adequate controlling/safety MEASURES in place.

Potential: Can a plane drop on your roof? Answer is Yes.
Frequency: How often does a plane drop down unto people's roof? Maybe 1-in every 50,000 flights, or once in 10years.
Measures: Pilots are re-trained, technologies are improved, Planes are regularly serviced and Inspected. etc.

Is the risk brought to ALARP with all the measures in place?....hmmm. Maybe the frequency has improved to 1 in 75,000flights or 1 in 15years. So considering the money to be made have we managed the risk well.... Certainly it has improved.

In conclusion, no business is risk free. You only manage the risks. And if you think you have totally eliminated all risks...how about the "act of God, natural disasters et al..... (Earthquakes, volcano eruption, flooding, tsunamis etc)

BlueSparks:



It's well thought out actually. It is going to unfold in phases. There is a renewal of the 1970s petroleum pipelines network that will ensure streamlined nationwide distribution to tackle the challenges of distribution


Let's not forget Lagos Ibadan expressway once functional will be freer than now.

Planned cargo rail services and heavy..


See. Let me tell you guys the truth

Dangote isn't producing for local production


That's the pure fact. Yes a good part will meet local need but the bulk of his market and his target is international market. This is where the Atlantic Ocean comes in


Kudos to Sailors in advance as much opportunities will begin to open to them


Als[b]o, Nigeria brokered an agreement with the European Union to construct a supply pipeline from Nigeria directly to Europe[/b]. Indeed his project is massive, highly beneficial to the country. And beyond. I wish him well

I see the country benefitting from it massively

I also like to postulate that he will be the richest man in the world because of this refinery within ten years of operation.

Are you High?
Russia gas is closing to them and even Libya is closer to Italy than Nigeria.
Do you know how much NS2 has cost Russia, France, and Germany so far talkless of a pipeline from Nigeria to the EU?
NS2 is around 1000KM and its already cost billions of dollars
Algeria and Libya have massive oil.
Please stop all these beer parlor news

sukieboy:


You really trust Nigeria govt to do the right thing because of the common man? Bruahahahaha.

Don't u av sense at all?

If u can't contribute sumtin with ṣense, take Your senselessness to ur fvckn 13% land with no result

sukieboy:


You really trust Nigeria govt to do the right thing because of the common man? Bruahahahaha.

Don't u av sense at all?

If u can't contribute sumtin with ṣense, take Your senselessness to ur fvckn 13% land with no result

He diot

Na now una know? Lol! Go and ask people living close to Onne Refinery Port Harcourt. You'll inheal black soot everyday. These toxic particles can cause breathing issues, including asthma, bronchitis, coronary heart disease, and even cancer.

Even though I was living in Woji which is about 17km from the refinary, I will always wake up to find black soots all over my house. Not to mention water pollution, those nice beaches in Lagos will be no more.

Oil refineries are a major source of air pollution for people who live near them and work at them. Chemicals in and around refineries cause cancer, reproductive harm, breathing problems such as asthma and emphysema, and birth defects, as well as other health problems such as headaches, nausea, dizziness, and stress

BlueSparks:



K

Environmental Impacts assessment must have been done. . At the same time positive and negative effect must be there.

BlueSparks:



Yes. This was how the forum used to be back 2005/2007 before they destroyed it and made us stop commenting.

You've done your best sincerely speaking. Even with Google at their finger tips, it's quite alarming the denials of the inevitable by the literate-future generation of Nigeria. Pathetic I must confess. There exists nothing as a unifying factor. Not even the environment can unite Nigerians.

Hashabiah:
Oga we are talking about the environmental impact (EIA) such a refinery will have on the state. But that not my concern ; it is the concern of those you who are indigenes of lagos.

There is no environmental impact it can have . You need to understand that lagos is not situated on another planet , if places even smaller than lagos state can have more than one refinery,then what makes lagos own case special ?
If countries smaller than the size of lagos state can have and also maintain more than one refinery,then why can't lagos state or nigeria even do the same ?
The only area which I think you may have a point is the naija factor of corruption. If all agencies and relevant health bodies do their job without been corrupted ,then there is nothing to fear. Before citing the refinery where it is now the state govt would have taken necessary steps and followed due standards before approving the place if not I am sure ,many people would have been complaining about the place. Before citing a refinery in a place there are basic standards which must have been met

Nigerians will pay with their health for the refinery, many drug companies are already preparing, Banana island and lekki are just stone throw away......This inhabitants already can pay


It will boil down to this:

If you value your health over money you leave Lagos but if u value money over your health you stay

You want it in Ijebu evil forest where AFonjas will have feild day in mining expatriates skulls and organs

Nigeria ... some of all this things are not much of an issue in the western nations..all this gas flaring, oil disposals have all been tackled well by various authorities.

We need a government that can check all this refineries on how they dispose their waste.

In the western nation, you don't dump oil on the ground. The oil is conveyed in a tanker and then dumped 10,000feet into the ground.

I do not know how we dispose oil in Nigeria but I will like someone to educate me.

irrespective of the environmental measures that have been put in place, living close to a refinery is hazardous to one health even if the rule book are all followed. So don't deceive yourself.

Other countries do have same

Aconomist:
Nigeria is not burning normal petrol. It is the dirtiest petrol on earth with 152 times the EU limit for sulfur and possibly other heavy metals like lead. Those of us living abroad can smell the contamination in the air when we set foot in Nigeria.

You didn't ask what they do when flaring gas during exploration, and ask the sulfur content of associated gas that is being flared right here in Nigeria. It will be much more than the one you think is released from car exhausts.

As for the smell, I will agree. I'm glad I'm not crazy for thinking Nigeria smells funny and the air content is very poor. And in places like Rivers State, there is a stronger humid smell once you come down to steps.

The world's moving towards electricity and now is the time that clown mogul wants to build a refinery. That's propf that this govt has no plan of improving light anytime soon.

Of course the answer is No. It’s simple, Dangote wants his refinery closer to the port so they can reduce cost of transportation for export and import of crude. Don’t be surprised that more of the products will be exported while we may still import and Dangote will import crude oil from outside, neglecting our local oil producers. He is about his business not Nigeria.