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joe17:
oh? Okay, my point is that you lied about that too.
You actually have not said anything straight as is, probably, since this your complain. And on that bases I say, if there is a little lie, there could also be a big lie.

Every other party involved in this has come out to testify, (I will tag the dispatch too that picked from omic and delivered to CV, same dispatch picked it from cv and delivered when I sold it. he is here on NL too). Adrianhillz will still come and testify soon.
So you show me where or who is lying.

First picture was when he picked up from omic and delivered at Cv...

Second picture was when I sold it and contacted him(diapatch) again to pickup and deliver.

Third picture shows when I still receive the item back and ask him to confirm and be sure the buyer claim was right.
It was received back by Ola plug and play in cv.
Note: the 2k talk in our chat was for his TP and 1k he paid to driver that delivered it back to Lagos.

You are shying away from facts & just speculating.

Facts: You don’t have serial numbers that can prove you sold original products.

You didn’t test the items before they were sent to @Humblesteve.

Four people have given detailed explanations with regards to receipt, delivery & confirmation of products.

If you have anything that can prove they are conniving, this is the time to say it; with proof. Otherwise, take a piss & call it granny’s peach tea, you won’t fool a fly or reasonable people here.

joe17:
oh? Okay, my point is that you lied about that too.
You actually have not said anything straight as is, probably, since this your complain. And on that bases I say, if there is a little lie, there could also be a big lie.

joe17:
oh? Okay, my point is that you lied about that too.
You actually have not said anything straight as is, probably, since this your complain. And on that bases I say, if there is a little lie, there could also be a big lie.

Boss, just refund make this case end.

You see this airpod business, na only by God's grace person dey see airpod wey no get problem.

The parties involved are trusted peeps and I don't see why they would stoop low to connive against you for simple airpod.

willbling:
Hello everyone, i'll keep it simple. i and sobastical have been in transactions, i request and buy tlc from him almost. So on a good day i asked if there are tlc deals available and he tells me that there was a watch and promax which he sold already but then he told me that an iphone x was available to which he attached a 140k price. for the record, i never buy tlc locked phones cos i dont even know how it operates even with chip and any tlc deal hunter should also @ me if i have ever gotten such. We negotiated the phone to 130k and trust me i thought i was buying a faCTORY UNLOCKED phone from him (my mistake) hence i didnt ask questions if it was locked. (but i requested him to help me factory reset the phone since he told me that the previous owner still had her files on the phone, if i knew it was locked i wuldnt make such a request), but also he never told me that it was locked, as so we sealed the deal. Item came in as expected and described and a buyer was already on ground to pick up, after a few days buyer said he sold the phone and that the phone was locked, immediatly i reached out to sabastical who asked if he didnt tell me, i said he didnt and he can check the chat. he told me to ask for a return and i had already used the cash to order another tlc deal but still i was open to the idea, was going to actually tell client to return then i and sobastical would come to a compromise since we had a relationship as i thought, but he then told me immediatly that i should HALT and that its att and it could be unlocked and requests me for the imei which client furnished me withafter which sobastical msgs me tell me that its processing and that by the next day the unlocking should be done, i sent the processing pic to the client who told me that he was running more than 2 att unlocks and that none of em were going through after a long wait time, i reverted to sobastical what client said to which sobastical sad the client knows little and that i shouldnt have informed him adding that if it was not paid offi wont get to the stage it is now. THIS WAS JANUARY 17. JAN 24 2021 i asked howfar the unlock, sobastical responded with a smiley but i was little concerned cos i had issue with a xsmax the, {wizzy 89 suppose remember that level} . now till JAN 28 i asked about the unlock cos client asked for update, sobastical said he was gonna check, till FEB 6TH client asked again and i reverted to sobastical who said I NEVER CHECK AM SEF and also said MAKE THE PERSON DEY USE AM LIKE THAT NA to which i told him i dont want anyone to drag me on dispute thread, to which he responded that he will give cybertek. Till FEB 27 i asked again about the unlock to which he said that cybertek isnt replying him and that cybertek aint online as before. fast foward to MAR 11 client told me he has been patient enough and that i should balance him 35 or 40k. i reverted to sobastical who the said that he would rather have the phone returned back to him and make a refund {i want to believe yall understand what that will mean on my side} also adding that he requested a return almost immediatly, meanwhile he was the one who said an unlocked would happen the next day which has taken more than 1 month. i suggested we split the refund to the guy as i was even willing to pay a higher amount and i asked for his suggestion to which he replied NOTHING and hasnt responded to my text till this day except on here.

NOTE: i made a mistake by not asking if phone was unlocked, he made a mistake of not also telling me it was locked. if phone could not be unlocked, why not just say instead of wasting time.

NOTE: I HAVE SCREENSHOTS TO SUPPORT ALL MY CLAIMS

i have no issues with anyone but if you made a mistake, just accept and rectify. instead of looking for a way out. PEACE

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Anopheles
sheelay
RakiticBarca
Kreamie
McMayor
Wese90
Babaisaac
Acekid109
Shapman
Sirlop
Princesavo
Humblesmith
Kinglala
Idboyostic
Aminds
Siegfried
Hustle
Divo
Babawale4real
AquaSpunky
TEQ365VENTU
ZUZMAN
Protein0
Piro007
Wolfenstein

I bought this x and I was sold a locked phone as an unlocked phone. Sobastical, if u didn’t tell him the phone was locked when he purchased as tlc from u, then u are wrong

willbling:
Hello everyone, i'll keep it simple. i and sobastical have been in transactions, i request and buy tlc from him almost. So on a good day i asked if there are tlc deals available and he tells me that there was a watch and promax which he sold already but then he told me that an iphone x was available to which he attached a 140k price. for the record, i never buy tlc locked phones cos i dont even know how it operates even with chip and any tlc deal hunter should also @ me if i have ever gotten such. We negotiated the phone to 130k and trust me i thought i was buying a faCTORY UNLOCKED phone from him (my mistake) hence i didnt ask questions if it was locked. (but i requested him to help me factory reset the phone since he told me that the previous owner still had her files on the phone, if i knew it was locked i wuldnt make such a request), but also he never told me that it was locked, as so we sealed the deal. Item came in as expected and described and a buyer was already on ground to pick up, after a few days buyer said he sold the phone and that the phone was locked, immediatly i reached out to sabastical who asked if he didnt tell me, i said he didnt and he can check the chat. he told me to ask for a return and i had already used the cash to order another tlc deal but still i was open to the idea, was going to actually tell client to return then i and sobastical would come to a compromise since we had a relationship as i thought, but he then told me immediatly that i should HALT and that its att and it could be unlocked and requests me for the imei which client furnished me withafter which sobastical msgs me tell me that its processing and that by the next day the unlocking should be done, i sent the processing pic to the client who told me that he was running more than 2 att unlocks and that none of em were going through after a long wait time, i reverted to sobastical what client said to which sobastical sad the client knows little and that i shouldnt have informed him adding that if it was not paid offi wont get to the stage it is now. THIS WAS JANUARY 17. JAN 24 2021 i asked howfar the unlock, sobastical responded with a smiley but i was little concerned cos i had issue with a xsmax the, {wizzy 89 suppose remember that level} . now till JAN 28 i asked about the unlock cos client asked for update, sobastical said he was gonna check, till FEB 6TH client asked again and i reverted to sobastical who said I NEVER CHECK AM SEF and also said MAKE THE PERSON DEY USE AM LIKE THAT NA to which i told him i dont want anyone to drag me on dispute thread, to which he responded that he will give cybertek. Till FEB 27 i asked again about the unlock to which he said that cybertek isnt replying him and that cybertek aint online as before. fast foward to MAR 11 client told me he has been patient enough and that i should balance him 35 or 40k. i reverted to sobastical who the said that he would rather have the phone returned back to him and make a refund {i want to believe yall understand what that will mean on my side} also adding that he requested a return almost immediatly, meanwhile he was the one who said an unlocked would happen the next day which has taken more than 1 month. i suggested we split the refund to the guy as i was even willing to pay a higher amount and i asked for his suggestion to which he replied NOTHING and hasnt responded to my text till this day except on here.

NOTE: i made a mistake by not asking if phone was unlocked, he made a mistake of not also telling me it was locked. if phone could not be unlocked, why not just say instead of wasting time.

NOTE: I HAVE SCREENSHOTS TO SUPPORT ALL MY CLAIMS

i have no issues with anyone but if you made a mistake, just accept and rectify. instead of looking for a way out. PEACE

Cc:
Anopheles
sheelay
RakiticBarca
Kreamie
McMayor
Wese90
Babaisaac
Acekid109
Shapman
Sirlop
Princesavo
Humblesmith
Kinglala
Idboyostic
Aminds
Siegfried
Hustle
Divo
Babawale4real
AquaSpunky
TEQ365VENTU
ZUZMAN
Protein0
Piro007
Wolfenstein

Sobastical. You haven’t replied. We are waiting for your own side.

bobo65:
Boss, just refund make this case end.

You see this airpod business, na only by God's grace person dey see airpod wey no get problem.

The parties involved are trusted peeps and I don't see why they would stoop low to connive against you for simple airpod.

It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

When buying something, the onus is on the buyer to test and confirm everything is okay to their satisfaction to avoid stories that touch afterwards because in this case, it would be wrong for me to ignore the fact that the Airpod might be faulty from the on-set. This is why people always say items should be checked properly at pick up location or at worst case scenario before sending out to another buyer, it makes the issue less problematic.

wildchild1:
It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

What are you saying?? Humblesteve clearly stated that Chelseamann is not in Lagos. That items were picked by him, humblesteve, and client did not test.

I think English is what is bringing Chelseamann on the wrong end in this, he communicated the AirPods with nylon as sealed, meanwhile it’s just a nylon wrap that can be carefully removed to test and carefully placed back.

He clearly sent you the messages based on the info he was given. I wonder why this is hard to understand and why people are drawing wild unfounded speculations.

And how will you sell Airpods without the serial number, me too let me start my speculation, what if joe has the serial number and he denied it to dance away from this? You said how will someone not test AirPods before buying, well I’ll say how will someone not have AirPods serial number before importing and selling as tlc!! We can go on and on...

You’ve been right on previous cases but just sit this one out, no point here, joe refund Chelseamann. Next case pls

I am not here to talk about any resolution or anything concerning dispute. But it saddens me that all these avoidable issues made it to dispute thread.... All in the name of we no gree oh we no gree..... Now people that you rarely have issues with their tlc now have decided they won't sell tlc again all because of all these avoidable gbasgbos............. You people should know that you are using your own to affect others...... I won't say more than that.... PLEASE ALL ISSUES SHOULD BE SOLVED. THIS NOT THE TIME TO WHERE THE CAP OF EGO. And to all that stopped selling tlc all in the name of avoiding issues. Biko. Reconsider oh.

wildchild1:
It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

you don't seem to be understanding all this sir.
I sold an open box same day and was left another one that still have nylon sealed on the charging case.
@Humblesteve that was with the item has testified too.
@Emmafe the buyer has testified too.
At least he should provide an evidence to deny that his airpod was working before he sold it to me.

Owodiran1:
I am not here to talk about any resolution or anything concerning dispute. But it saddens me that all these avoidable issues made it to dispute thread.... All in the name of we no gree oh we no gree..... Now people that you rarely have issues with their tlc now have decided they won't sell tlc again all because of all these avoidable gbasgbos............. You people should know that you are using your own to affect others...... I won't say more than that.... PLEASE ALL ISSUES SHOULD BE SOLVED. THIS NOT THE TIME TO WHERE THE CAP OF EGO. And to all that stopped selling tlc all in the name of avoiding issues. Biko. Reconsider oh.

I clearly did all I can to reason with him privately but he gave me the go ahead to post it here.

wildchild1:
It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

Nope...

Suppliers sell airpods in that condition as new. We've all bought new airpods that way and in bulk quantities which we didn't test.

The third party (Humblesteve) didn't test them cos they came in sealed that way. I'm 100% sure if joe17 had the airpods, he wouldn't test them. Even you wouldn't test airpods that are sealed within the charging case and advertised as never used by the seller.

That's not the point of the discourse anyway. The point still remains:

1) Joe17 doesn't have the serial number of the airpods to confirm the authenticity

2) Picker or whoever picked those airpods didn't unseal it to test also or run a serial number check. This has a problem all the way from US making your point about Chelseamann moot

3) Joe17 never tested the airpods. He has no evidence whatsoever to back up his authentic airpods.


4) Joe17 can't advertise airpods as never used and when it has an issue, he goes back to a statement that it wasn't sealed cos it's more than a week. That's conniving and 2 faced.

5) If Chelseamann wanted to lie about defective airpods, he'd used both airpods as defects. Not one...


Unless there's a proof Joe17 sold authentic airpods, which there isn't; any agenda against Chelseamann is null and void.


Thanks

LearnWisdom:
What are you saying?? Humblesteve clearly stated that Chelseamann is not in Lagos. That items were picked by him, humblesteve, and client did not test.

You’ve been right on previous cases but just sit this one out, no point here, joe refund Chelseamann. Next case pls

This is not an excuse, I'm not in Lagos too and I sell deals daily. I told Chelseaman last week I also notice the people in Lagos don't check your items very well for you when they arrive, It's high time you changed them or if you're not paying them, start paying so they can always do the necessary checks when your items arrive

Secondly, I'm yet to give any stand on the case, as a matter of fact, when Chelseamann narrated for me in the DM, I told him to bring it here so people can share their opinions because Airpod issues are always very delicate and complicated.

I have always avoided airpod deals but I got this because he gave it assurance that airpod was genuine and authentic.
I decided to give it a try.

Anopheles:
Nope...

Suppliers sell airpods in that condition as new. We've all bought new airpods that way and in bulk quantities which we didn't test.

The third party (Humblesteve) didn't test them cos they came in sealed that way. I'm 100% sure if joe17 had the airpods, he wouldn't test them. Even you wouldn't test airpods that are sealed within the charging case and advertised as never used by the seller.

That's not the point of the discourse anyway. The point still remains:

1) Joe17 doesn't have the serial number of the airpods to confirm the authenticity

2) Picker or whoever picked those airpods didn't unseal it to test also or run a serial number check. This has a problem all the way from US making your point about Chelseamann moot

3) Joe17 never tested the airpods. He has no evidence whatsoever to back up his authentic airpods.


4) Joe17 can't advertise airpods as never used and when it has an issue, he goes back to a statement that it wasn't sealed cos it's more than a week. That's conniving and 2 faced.

5) If Chelseamann wanted to lie about defective airpods, he'd used both airpods as defects. Not one...


Unless there's a proof Joe17 sold authentic airpods, which there isn't; any agenda against Chelseamann is null and void.


Thanks

just read that your number 5 again and tell me how reasonable that sounds.

Either someone is trying to play fast one on him or they are imply conniving, that’s it
I guess he couldn’t say the one With box that is opened as he said has issues because the serial numbers would be verified on the box, but that one that is still sealed he said doesn’t work simply because no box to verify the serial numbers.

****
I have said it in that WhatsApp group and I say it here again, no one or group of persons would bully me into refunding any money to anyone over this, unless he has a way to proof to me that that’s the actually airpods he picked over a week ago.

And I’m aware that Chelseamann has reached out to most you commenting privately and whipped out sentiments, hence the prejudiced comments.

PS: since the day 1 to this very moment he never told me he’s not in Lagos, if that’s worth saying.

joe17:
pls don’t quote me again, I can still remember your bad deal with me that year(I swallowed it all), so I’m not surprised you towing this part with him through your responses from that WhatsApp group to here.

please, let me quote you again and I will quote you again and again till you tell me the bad deal you swallowed that year.

Seriously?

It’s high time we brought back the BLACKLIST. It should bring some sort of sanity to those of you selling TLC without a conscience :

joe17:
just read that your number 5 again and tell me how reasonable that sounds.

Either someone is trying to play fast one on him or they are imply conniving, that’s it
I guess he couldn’t say the one With box that is opened as he said has issues because the serial numbers would be verified on the box, but that one that is still sealed he said doesn’t work simply because no box to verify the serial numbers.

****
I have said it in that WhatsApp group and I say it here again, no one or group of persons would bully me into refunding any money to anyone over this, unless he has a way to proof to me that that’s the actually airpods he picked over a week ago.

And I’m aware that Chelseamann has reached out to most you commenting privately and whipped out sentiments, hence the prejudiced comments.

PS: since the day 1 to this very moment he never told me he’s not in Lagos, if that’s worth saying.

joe17:
just read that your number 5 again and tell me how reasonable that sounds.

Either someone is trying to play fast one on him or they are imply conniving, that’s it
I guess he couldn’t say the one With box that is opened as he said has issues because the serial numbers would be verified on the box, but that one that is still sealed he said doesn’t work simply because no box to verify the serial numbers.

****
I have said it in that WhatsApp group and I say it here again, no one or group of persons would bully me into refunding any money to anyone over this, unless he has a way to proof to me that that’s the actually airpods he picked over a week ago.

And I’m aware that Chelseamann has reached out to most you commenting privately and whipped out sentiments, hence the prejudiced comments.

PS: since the day 1 to this very moment he never told me he’s not in Lagos, if that’s worth saying.

Lol.

Serial number you need is not the one on the box. Nobody uses the serial number on the box for authentic confirmation
The serial number you need is the one under the lid of the charging case, carefully inscribed there by Apple itself. If you have that serial number, we can match yours with his...


So far, he has all the evidences needed to get a refund. You on the other hand have nada


There's no need for the following statement. We're all being non-sentimental. We just chastised Chelseamann on another case 3 pages back.


But if you want to take it personal and not be reasonable, then it's not a healthy business for anyone to risk their money with you.

Cheers

wildchild1:
It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

When buying something, the onus is on the buyer to test and confirm everything is okay to their satisfaction to avoid stories that touch afterwards because in this case, it would be wrong for me to ignore the fact that the Airpod might be faulty from the on-set. This is why people always say items should be checked properly at pick up location or at worst case scenario before sending out to another buyer, it makes the issue less problematic.

Like someone said, English is the problem here with @chelseamann and that is why he is mixing everything up. He already showed proof of how the airpod was moved from Omic to his connect and then to his buyer. And all have come here to testify, I don't know what else we need to understand again.

And yes for an Airpod case that it sealed, there is actually a seal on it and once broken the seal might not be closed again. So, why break a seal of what you intend to sell brand new?

You also said the "onus is on the buyer to test everything before buying" so I want to ask you this....in this business is the onus not on the seller to check everything before selling?

Anopheles:
Nope...

Suppliers sell airpods in that condition as new. We've all bought new airpods that way and in bulk quantities which we didn't test.

The third party (Humblesteve) didn't test them cos they came in sealed that way. I'm 100% sure if joe17 had the airpods, he wouldn't test them. Even you wouldn't test airpods that are sealed within the charging case and advertised as never used by the seller.

That's not the point of the discourse anyway. The point still remains:

1) Joe17 doesn't have the serial number of the airpods to confirm the authenticity

2) Picker or whoever picked those airpods didn't unseal it to test also or run a serial number check. This has a problem all the way from US making your point about Chelseamann moot

3) Joe17 never tested the airpods. He has no evidence whatsoever to back up his authentic airpods.


4) Joe17 can't advertise airpods as never used and when it has an issue, he goes back to a statement that it wasn't sealed cos it's more than a week. That's conniving and 2 faced.

5) If Chelseamann wanted to lie about defective airpods, he'd used both airpods as defects. Not one...


Unless there's a proof Joe17 sold authentic airpods, which there isn't; any agenda against Chelseamann is null and void.


Thanks

I don't think @wildchild knows about the bolded, like you said buyer wouldn't check same way I wouldn't also....same way @chelseamann did not check. @wildchild airpod case is not just nylon, there is a seal on it, once broken....you spoil the chances of you selling as brand new which in this case @chelseamann wanted to sell as brand new.

And you saying we aren't seeing through the lies/statement of @chelseamann ehn....is actually uncalled for. You and joe17 are just speculating, giving us what if.

Anopheles:
Lol.

Serial number you need is not the one on the box. Nobody uses the serial number on the box for authentic confirmation
The serial number you need is the one under the lid of the charging case, carefully inscribed there by Apple itself. If you have that serial number, we can match yours with his...


So far, he has all the evidences needed to get a refund. You on the other hand have nada


There's no need for the following statement. We're all being non-sentimental. We just chastised Chelseamann on another case 3 pages back.


But if you want to take it personal and not be reasonable, then it's not a healthy business for anyone to risk their money with you.

Cheers

At all.
Omo TLC isn’t for everyone if you can’t own up to your loss. Like what’s he saying about conniving to play you over an airpod of 90k?

Refund him, it’s as simple as that

Idboyostic:
Like someone said, English is the problem here with @chelseamann and that is why he is mixing everything up. He already showed proof of how the airpod was moved from Omic to his connect and then to his buyer. And all have come here to testify, I don't know what else we need to understand again.

And yes for an Airpod case that it sealed, there is actually a seal on it and once broken the seal might not be closed again. So, why break a seal of what you intend to sell brand new?

You also said the "onus is on the buyer to test everything before buying" so I want to ask you this....in this business is the onus not on the seller to check everything before selling?

I weak, why do we’ve to to go forth and back over a clear issue like this?

Idboyostic:
I don't think @wildchild knows about the bolded, like you said buyer wouldn't check same way I wouldn't also....same way @chelseamann did not check. @wildchild airpod case is not just nylon, there is a seal on it, once broken....you spoil the chances of you selling as brand new which in this case @chelseamann wanted to sell as brand new.

And you saying we aren't seeing through the lies/statement of @chelseamann ehn....is actually uncalled for. You and joe17 are just speculating, giving us what if.

Even when Adrianhillz chatted me for the first airpod I clearly told him that I can’t break that seal, because it’s not in my place to do so. He understood and sent his person to coke test it at my place before he credited me. He can come forward to testify this too

Mr Joe kindly do the needful

joe17:
just read that your number 5 again and tell me how reasonable that sounds.

Either someone is trying to play fast one on him or they are imply conniving, that’s it
I guess he couldn’t say the one With box that is opened as he said has issues because the serial numbers would be verified on the box, but that one that is still sealed he said doesn’t work simply because no box to verify the serial numbers.

****
I have said it in that WhatsApp group and I say it here again, no one or group of persons would bully me into refunding any money to anyone over this, unless he has a way to proof to me that that’s the actually airpods he picked over a week ago.

And I’m aware that Chelseamann has reached out to most you commenting privately and whipped out sentiments, hence the prejudiced comments.

PS: since the day 1 to this very moment he never told me he’s not in Lagos, if that’s worth saying.

Your 2nd paragraph, you are still speculating without facts....I can say I know the handler to an extent and the buyer to a large extent and I can tell you they have a name to protect. I guessed many of the big names here knows @emmafe and can vouch for him anyday anytime also @Humblesteve. So, you saying that this names are trying to play a fast one or conniving with @chelseamann....is an insult to them.

2nd paragraph, nobody is bullying you here to refund because we can't dip into your pockets for that nor open your app to transfer but we are all trying to let you see reason why their might be a need to refund.

3rd paragraph, quit speculating please...you are aware that @chelseamann as reach out to most of us, that is unbelievable. Well, I can speak about myself that @chelseamann did not reach out to me privately. I saw the argument on the group and because it wasn't getting a solution....it was brought here for the whole public to see and hopefully with here comes a solution.

Last paragraph, it's not worth saying....most of us knows @chelseamann is not in Lagos.

wildchild1:
This is not an excuse, I'm not in Lagos too and I sell deals daily. I told Chelseaman last week I also notice the people in Lagos don't check your items very well for you when they arrive, It's high time you changed them or if you're not paying them, start paying so they can always do the necessary checks when your items arrive

Secondly, I'm yet to give any stand on the case, as a matter of fact, when Chelseamann narrated for me in the DM, I told him to bring it here so people can share their opinions because Airpod issues are always very delicate and complicated.

Ok chief.

But I think the only reason joe can still stand in his unfounded basis is because he thinks there should be an objection to this..

I’m not finding location as an excuse for chelseaman
Let’s stick to facts from what I’ve read so far

All parties involved from the moment the airpod landed in Lagos (omic) to the dispatch, to humblesteev (who took the pictures to upload for ads) to the person who picked for client.

There has been detailed alibis from chelseaman (screenshot) to support the claims and most of the parties have come here to testify. And from it we can deduce that this particular airpod in question was not tested or opened to confirm function prior before sale because it was assumed as “sealed” (nylon wrap) by the tlc buyer himself (chelseaman). And was sold as brand new sealed no box.


With this being said, joe’s case of trying to be played or scammed is ruled out, now the only way to exonerate himself is the serial number, which he claims he doesn’t have. How can you not have the most important evidence to deny the airpod isn’t yours from a well solid case chelseaman tabled.

Joe should lick his wounds and take his L on this. You were wrong for selling airpod tlc without having the serial number, or maybe you trying to dodge the claims by denying. All in all this case is well detailed and English was the miscommunication and what brought about the conspiracy. By evidence joe shld refund

Idboyostic:
I don't think @wildchild knows about the bolded, like you said buyer wouldn't check same way I wouldn't also....same way @chelseamann did not check. @wildchild airpod case is not just nylon, there is a seal on it, once broken....you spoil the chances of you selling as brand new which in this case @chelseamann wanted to sell as brand new.

And you saying we aren't seeing through the lies/statement of @chelseamann ehn....is actually uncalled for. You and joe17 are just speculating, giving us what if.

The bold is the only thing that have proved beyond reasonable doubt why the airpods cant be opened for testing and the only way Joe can dispute that is if he can provide a serial number to ascertain its the same airpords.

In the absence of serial number to dispute that, Joe17 should refund Chelseamann with immediate alacrity.

LearnWisdom:
Ok chief.

But I think the only reason joe can still stand in his unfounded basis is because he thinks there should be an objection to this..

I’m not finding location as an excuse for chelseaman
Let’s stick to facts from what I’ve read so far

All parties involved from the moment the airpod landed in Lagos (omic) to the dispatch, to humblesteev (who took the pictures to upload for ads) to the person who picked for client.

There has been detailed alibis from chelseaman (screenshot) to support the claims and most of the parties have come here to testify. And from it we can deduce that this particular airpod in question was not tested or opened to confirm function prior before sale because it was assumed as “sealed” (nylon wrap) by the tlc buyer himself (chelseaman). And was sold as brand new sealed no box.


With this being said, joe’s case of trying to be played or scammed is ruled out, now the only way to exonerate himself is the serial number, which he claims he doesn’t have. How can you not have the most important evidence to deny the airpod isn’t yours from a well solid case chelseaman tabled.

Joe should lick his wounds and take his L on this. You were wrong for selling airpod tlc without having the serial number, or maybe you trying to dodge the claims by denying. All in all this case is well detailed and English was the miscommunication and what brought about the conspiracy. By evidence joe shld refund

Thank you for the bolded....

This was exactly what I said in the group ooo...."from all indications @joe17 should refund @chelseamann....baba said he won't refund no matter the bully and conspiracy....lol...because @chelseamann dey feed me abi I dey collect favour from am.

wildchild1:
The bold is the only thing that have proved beyond reasonable doubt why the airpods cant be opened for testing and the only way Joe can dispute that is if he can provide a serial number to ascertain its the same airpords.

In the absence of serial number to dispute that, Joe17 should refund Chelseamann with immediate alacrity.

Thank you for seeing reasons with us why their is need for @Joe17 to refund.

@Joe17, nobody is bullying you ooo....is just that we felt there is a need to refund in this case. Shikena!!!

sirlop:
Sobastical. You haven’t replied. We are waiting for your own side.

sirlop:
I bought this x and I was sold a locked phone as an unlocked phone. Sobastical, if u didn’t tell him the phone was locked when he purchased as tlc from u, then u are wrong

Another reason why AIN/TLC Whatsapp groups should be scrapped, people now feel untouchable as they dont post on NL again. I heard of a female picker that would pick items and not send pictures after pick up, if you ask her, she will threaten to refund.

Everyone should be on their toes now, if an issue can't be solved amicably here, they should involve the law enforcement agencies without delay.

wildchild1:
It's not about people involved. I'm surprised you can't see through the lies/different statements of Chelseamann which is the major thing Joe17 is having problems with. Chelseamann told me he sold Open Box AirPod then he's left with the Airpod without box.

My question, who buys an AirPod that's not Apple sealed without testing? Let's assume at the point of pick up, it wasn't tested, what about when sending it out to a buyer? This is Airpod we're talking about ooo.

Only a factory sealed item cannot be tested, that's a brand new sealed item. For an Airpod that only has nylon on the charging case, to me, that's no longer a sealed item. Even if you want to sell it to a customer as "brand new", you should have carefully removed the nylon on the charging case, open it and test it to confirm the functionality before selling/sending it out.

When buying something, the onus is on the buyer to test and confirm everything is okay to their satisfaction to avoid stories that touch afterwards because in this case, it would be wrong for me to ignore the fact that the Airpod might be faulty from the on-set. This is why people always say items should be checked properly at pick up location or at worst case scenario before sending out to another buyer, it makes the issue less problematic.

Brother he might have taken it that since the sealed one was fully functional then the unsealed is fully functional since it's from the same source, remember it's also brand new with no box

wildchild1:
Another reason why AIN/TLC Whatsapp groups should be scrapped, people now feel untouchable as they dont post on NL again. I heard of a female picker that would pick items and not send pictures after pick up, if you ask her, she will threaten to refund.

Everyone should be on their toes now, if an issue can't be solved amicably here, they should involve the law enforcement agencies without delay.

When I said this, it was as if I was a bad person.
The whatsapp group is doing more harm than good.

Kreamie:
Seriously?

It’s high time we brought back the BLACKLIST. It should bring some sort of sanity to those of you selling TLC without a conscience :

Na your hand e dey... na you be the OP,, I'm not sure anyone opposes to the blacklist thing,, we should reconsider it please
There just need to be clear rules and guidelines for the removal and adding of individuals...
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You remember how I much tired for DM to try to stop/convince you from clearing and abolishing the blacklist.. na the result be this,,
You see as person dey feel like king Kong like say people putting mouth for the matter dey beg for money