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Aketi2:
A typical catholic priest is the devils incarnate. Forget about their appearance as pious men, its all fake. I have read many testimony of Catholics especially in Europe. The one that shook me most was the 12 year old girl that was sent to convent to become a Nun.

What na happened?

illicit:
Well no matter what, I don't support Corporal punishment but what if a student assaults a staff....

Very stupid question so many kids on NL. Is that your question the issue right now?

mrdharkchild:
I went through a missionary school and I OK /certify that flogging and punishments as means of proper discipline.
Before you get into a missionary school or a minor seminary, prepare your mind that you are sending your child to a correctional facility.
Those marks are even small self. It'll heal in no time.
If it's a student that flogs u like that, the school has a disciplinary committee, direct it to them, than share the pics and bring the matter to the internet. This will only facilitate your expulsion.
Missionary schools is a military school in disguise, where u learn perseverance, discipline, as a man.
Indomie generations would never understand. All they care about is defaming and sabotaging the names of missionary schools. but to what end?
For once the discipline never killed me.
It only made us stronger, and taught us to device means to survive (SOHK).
I fought, I scavenged for food, I took a swollen eye, a swollen face, monkey yansh, slaps, velentino belts, koboko, wire, nepa wire, wood... Name them. I won most fights, I lost some, broken wrists. Learnt how to bend rules, not break them. It was an adventure you can never take out of my life.
When I complained to my parents and they kept me mute, then I knew what I signed up for, the plan was to aim for SS3, or get a school father. It was like a game of Chess and cards.
You can either decide to pay attention to instructions, or suffer d consequences.
Your parents signed u up for it.
If not, take your kids to other schools.
Missionary schools r for discipline. Same as military schools.
No priest is a devils incarnate.
Check your forms of undertaking.

I went through lumen Christi, uromi.
Commisioners and top politicians usually dump their kids in my school, even some kids from abroad, to b corrected.

From my jss1 till SSS1 I was hated and flogged, the picture posted above is a child's play flogging.
I encouraged myself, consoled myself, learnt alot of lessons from that school.
I don't have a single Cain or koboko or wire mark on my body today.

We even learnt how to persevere with the punishments and bear the pain, and even turned it to a joke.
When flogged, we'd bone (which is d word we used back then) the cane, it became fun. And for 6years.
Today I use those punishments as exercise in my early mornings.

We learnt how to manage suffering, because it is by suffering that character is birthed.
This generation don't know how to manage when suffering, it's y many marriages, when the men lose their source of income, the woman leaves.

This generation, at the slightest frustrations and discomfort, they feed it to the internet to defame others and spread spiteful rumors and most especially, commit suicide.

We r men, we were built to b strong and masculine.
If you don't know how to take a Cain, how to fight, how to take a punch, how to manage pain, how to frog jump, how to be tough, then try the feminine gender.
Thank u.

Thanks for this jargons. Are you sure your are mentality okay?

luminouz:
Your analogy even made your opinion worse. A bank fires a thieving staff immediately he/she is caught. The only other thing is to recover the stolen funds. Why on earth would you start asking why the theft took place when stealing is the number one sin in a financial institution. What reason would be feasible enough to justify stealing in a BANK as a staff? Can't you see that your case study is very wrong? If it's my personal business, I could ask him but what if that staff has a history of fraud and has been forgiven many times? (just like that boy must have been misbehaving upandan with his unserious chess games).

My position is this:

I believe in 'spare the rod and spoil the child' rule. The only exception is when the child is well behaved. A teenager has almost formed his own mindset and mentality and are at their most rebellious. For him to play chess while class goes on, shows a total disrespect to authority. How do we know how he behaves at home too? The school gave him capital punishment. I believe he won't play that chess tomorrow while class is ongoing. Lesson learnt. Win win for everyone.

My analogy is not wrong..... Because the reason why you investigate is to ensure that such doesn't repeat itself by putting controls in place or tweaking a system.

My point is flogging is Meant to be correctional, but the thing is we should be focused on preventatives. And prevention is better than cure. Flogging a child only makes the child more rebellious

unmask:
My analogy is not wrong..... Because the reason why you investigate is to ensure that such doesn't repeat itself by putting controls in place or tweaking a system.

My point is flogging is Meant to be correctional, but the thing is we should be focused on preventatives. And prevention is better than cure. Flogging a child only makes the child more rebellious

Your last sentence is wrong. It never made many of us rebellious. We did bad and were corrected. What breeds rebellion is to be flogged,maltreated without being guilty or any reason at all.

On your first paragraph, Surely you can ask all these questions when the thief is with police,after being SACKED?

luminouz:
Archaic according to who?

The school is not the only institution you know. The home is another. So if his parents beat him like that too, you will take them to court?

They were and still are damned effective. The little decorum and cultural values still retained by our generation were forged on the altars of training by our parents and the school. The moral decadence rampant these days ain't due to bad economy alone but also lack of quality moral/ cultural training. You should see how liberalism has made the youths so utterly devoid of morals. They will train their kids like that too. Soon, it would be cool for a son to slap his father,so long he is 18years old.

According to several studies....reason why it has been outlawed in some countries.

I guess you don't see the bigger picture.....just take time out and read on the effects of corporal punishment on kids and you would get more insight. Like I mentioned, flogging never had any impact on me never corrected anything for me. On the contrary it helped reinforce my resolve to do the things I was flogged for. Other things shaped who I am today.

luminouz:
Your last sentence is wrong. It never made many of us rebellious. We did bad and were corrected. What breeds rebellion is to be flogged,maltreated without being guilty or any reason at all.

On your first paragraph, Surely you can ask all these questions when the thief is with police,after being SACKED?

Speak for yourself I know how it affected me.

The point I was trying to make is why schools need to take out time to carry out research on rebellious children.

unmask:
Speak for yourself I know how it affected me.

The point I was trying to make is why schools need to take out time to carry out research on rebellious children.

It affected you cuz you were too weak to seek revenge on your false accuser.

Secondary schools will now do research on rebellious children? ... Who funds such research and why would such be their PRIORITY, leaving their primary goal of teaching students moral values and academic excellence.

Dude, I'm done with you. Do have a nice day today.

unmask:
According to several studies....reason why it has been outlawed in some countries.

I guess you don't see the bigger picture.....just take time out and read on the effects of corporal punishment on kids and you would get more insight. Like I mentioned, flogging never had any impact on me never corrected anything for me. On the contrary it helped reinforce my resolve to do the things I was flogged for. Other things shaped who I am today.

Lol... I guess your body will be full of scars now, if flogging you only reinforces your resolve to do evil. Well, it did for me. My parents and teachers never beat me for fun, they always make me know what exactly I'm being punished for and why I ought to stop such bad behaviours.

The whites are not the ones to teach my kids moral values, their own kids lack it.

Have a nice day

danny360:
I wonder if you would have said that, if your son or brother was the one in that picture. Local African mentality. You don't try this nonsense in other countries.

na niger we dey, why will he be be playing chess in the class. You self reason that kind stuff now,

We wey go boarding house says this no be beating

We got more than this whipping those days , even spent days in police cell because we beat one of the junior staff mercilessly, nobody gives a Bleep those days and u will be even be ashamed to show it to ur parents because they might join the flogging on top ur body , why people now seeing disciplining a student as a horrible thing ...


bleeped generation

mrdharkchild:
I went through a missionary school and I OK /certify that flogging and punishments as means of proper discipline.
Before you get into a missionary school or a minor seminary, prepare your mind that you are sending your child to a correctional facility.
Those marks are even small self. It'll heal in no time.
If it's a student that flogs u like that, the school has a disciplinary committee, direct it to them, than share the pics and bring the matter to the internet. This will only facilitate your expulsion.
Missionary schools is a military school in disguise, where u learn perseverance, discipline, as a man.
Indomie generations would never understand. All they care about is defaming and sabotaging the names of missionary schools. but to what end?
For once the discipline never killed me.
It only made us stronger, and taught us to device means to survive (SOHK).
I fought, I scavenged for food, I took a swollen eye, a swollen face, monkey yansh, slaps, velentino belts, koboko, wire, nepa wire, wood... Name them. I won most fights, I lost some, broken wrists. Learnt how to bend rules, not break them. It was an adventure you can never take out of my life.
When I complained to my parents and they kept me mute, then I knew what I signed up for, the plan was to aim for SS3, or get a school father. It was like a game of Chess and cards.
You can either decide to pay attention to instructions, or suffer d consequences.
Your parents signed u up for it.
If not, take your kids to other schools.
Missionary schools r for discipline. Same as military schools.
No priest is a devils incarnate.
Check your forms of undertaking.

I went through lumen Christi, uromi.
Commisioners and top politicians usually dump their kids in my school, even some kids from abroad, to b corrected.

From my jss1 till SSS1 I was hated and flogged, the picture posted above is a child's play flogging.
I encouraged myself, consoled myself, learnt alot of lessons from that school.
I don't have a single Cain or koboko or wire mark on my body today.

We even learnt how to persevere with the punishments and bear the pain, and even turned it to a joke.
When flogged, we'd bone (which is d word we used back then) the cane, it became fun. And for 6years.
Today I use those punishments as exercise in my early mornings.

We learnt how to manage suffering, because it is by suffering that character is birthed.
This generation don't know how to manage when suffering, it's y many marriages, when the men lose their source of income, the woman leaves.

This generation, at the slightest frustrations and discomfort, they feed it to the internet to defame others and spread spiteful rumors and most especially, commit suicide.

We r men, we were built to b strong and masculine.
If you don't know how to take a Cain, how to fight, how to take a punch, how to manage pain, how to frog jump, how to be tough, then try the feminine gender.
Thank u.

your point is valid
my dad is a retired personnel
I'm an X boy,
same with all my siblings and I can totally relate
my son/ kids are going straight to the military school
stand tall and stand tough, then work smart with God's grace
Indian mic mic
huraaaaaaa

illicit:
Well no matter what, I don't support Corporal punishment but what if a student assaults a staff....

change ur weed dealer bro

Goldeno:
this is a lie
only a naija parent can beat his child like that.
at school they either beat you on your backside or palms
this is the work of his father
tel this lie to the whites no we here wey follow go the school

senselessness is hovering all over ds comment

unmask:
This is a failure of a teacher as a teacher. Not a parental problem.

The truth is a lot of our teachers have no business teaching. For one they are not mentally capable to carry the burden of influencing the lives of the kids placed under them.

How many students will call this teacher their favorite? Compare to those that take out time to encourage and actively seek to help students. Even if the student is still wayward, at a low point in their life, they would remember that they had/have someone who tried actively to help them and they can reach out to for help. That is the work of a teacher guidance not flogging.

All your rantings above are outside the point.

Caining a child is not pathognomonic to mental incapability of the teacher.

It isn't your business to be students' favorite. It is your business as a teacher to teach and do your job.

Any student that likes or doesn't like you is none of your business.

danny360:
I wonder if you would have said that, if your son or brother was the one in that picture. Local African mentality. You don't try this nonsense in other countries.

There are some comment u just need to ignore, cus we have so many kids with phone now adays that just come here to comment senselessly.

That is wickedness, and come to think of it, chess is a big competition game now in secondary schools and I'm proud of my formal school for always been the best in Lagos state if not Nigeria self.

maasoap:
I didn't know that priests also went for army training. I don't blame you, many Nigerians don't really know the difference between discipline and torture. And few who know the difference don't really know the right discipline to give to kids.



And you think that's the right and best way to go through life? The fact that you were exposed to all those kind of inhumane conditions didn't mean it was the best thing to ever happened to you.



That was because your parents didn't know better. They didn't know how best to protect you because perhaps they also passed through the same shitty process while growing up.



No parents in their right sense would sign up their kids for torture. Many kids had been killed, maimed or damaged psychologically through this archaic method of raising kids.
No one encourages raising a pusssy but you don't have to damage them in the name of discipline

Y d senseless comment?
Please if your child is not in a missionary or military school, cease to mention my post.


Ask around about Lumen Christi International high school, arue, uromi, Edo state.
Do your small research. Like I said, commissioners dump their kids in my school. I don't need to start mentioning the names of these commissioners.
And hey!! It wasn't torture.


The principle of beating a child with the Right hand, and petting him with the left hand is the best treatment for a child. Go there and be doing research on how to bring up your child.
Be it an Irony, but, I beat my child to properly reform him. It is iron that sharpens iron.

Many parents just play possum to the fact. Or are just cowards

danny360:
This country can never improve with evil minded people like you. Since this beating proves strength I guys we should strengthen your children if you have any. Or probably strengthen you too.

Don't mind those clowns no wonder they feel comfortable with the abuse they get from their government every day. Abuse is a part of life to them.

manitoba:
With all those stupid corporal punishment they gave you, have you made it in life more than those who grew up in love?

Africans and Nigerians just hate themselves.

I am a parent and if any teacher try this nonsense with my wards, the teacher will definitely end up in jail at the least.

To get the best performance out of sth, u must subject that sth to different condition to see how that sth responds. You subjecting sth to best conditions is denying that sth actual reality.
My parents like to do most things for us (children), I got to the University(FUTO), I was to do my medicals examination, when I saw d crowd, I sat somewhere, I cried, wishing my parents could help me out, I called them on phone.
Then I took it on myself to experience the hard life, the streets. Because that's d reality outside the house. Not the ideal
I am an Engineer, when we build robots, cars, inverters, we subject it to different conditions and measure its operability and functionality.

Because of the theory of the ideal condition which we imagine in our heads, and the real condition which is out there? Your cars can function under any conditions because of these tests. And it is so in all research faculties.

A Word is enough.
So many parents reason. Like kids these days

A nd what has the father or mother of the boy done about it?

maasoap:
If the parents is rich or influential, you could spend few weeks in prison. If the parents is a soldier, you could be brutalised too, maimed, injured, sustain permanent injury or even worse. Madness pass madness. You have no right to brutalise your students no matter the circumstances

I believe that at the court, the teacher will not be allowed to have a lawyer and what gives the soldiers right to brutalise anyone too....


So. everything still boils down to oppression

danny360:
This took place in the most popular school on Benue State. Mount Saint Gabriel's Secondary School. This country is very lawless. How can you do this to someone's child. It's just sad and disheartening.

A Nigerian man, Austine Zeku Torkuma wrote:


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4196096640423964&id=100000710088195

Both the reacher and student were wrong. Did the school provide the chess game or he brought from home!

If you not offering a subject, why not go to a school library and atleast pretend to read but sleep. You brought chess game to school instead!

I don't support this kind of flogging but I also believe the truth is not being told.

The perpetrators should be arrested and jailed immediately. Stupid people

This is too much. Even if they were making noise,the penalty still does not equal the offense. You don't kill a fly with a sledge hammer. You would have seized the chess board and give them V-portion etc to while away time.

moyosore32:
change ur weed dealer bro

I am d dealer ....

illicit:
I believe that at the court, the teacher will not be allowed to have a lawyer

Rich people and connections in Nigeria is a big factor in Nigeria courts. The judge would simply say that the teacher should be reminded in correctional facility pending the determination of the bail application by the lawyer. It happens all the time.

and what gives the soldiers right to brutalise anyone too....

The same thing that gives teacher the right to brutalise his student. That's why I said madness pass madness.

So. everything still boils down to oppression

My point exactly.

luminouz:
This is for you

Social Media don take over our sanity in this part of the world........I just understand why dem put "the labour of our heroes past, shall never be in vain for Nigeria item" because they knew remaining generation would not get any sense than to scam people, do ritual, fuvk olosho, flaunt 6 pack, show breast, get paid and all.

Dem even born you well to look your teacher face, and even parents back then regards school as corrective institution aside from the learn but it seems 99% of young parents this days are happy to raise Olosho, scammer, ritualist, criminals from birth.

You said that was for me. I would have loved to address the comment but I don't really understand how it was meant for me, honestly. I read it twice but I still didn't get it. Thanks.

Once again, I'm not a fan of brutalising kids. I went through that shiity process and I realised that it wasn't the best way to raise kids. Me passing through it didn't mean that it was great.

luminouz:
How do you know they don't beat their kids bro?

Just let it slide.

You never lived near a teacher's house for once? Or how many times did you see your teacher brutalising his children from your primary school to University?
It will be allowed to slide when we stop disagreeing

toplinetrtrend:
Not brutalise; Discipline him

That's exactly what this thread is all about: knowing the difference between brutality and discipline. Many teachers and parents wrongly understood brutality to be discipline.
I don't brutalise my kids but many kids who are being brutalised and treated like animals can't be more behaved, responsible and disciplined than my kids.

maasoap:
That's exactly what this thread is all about: knowing the difference between brutality and discipline. Many teachers understood brutality to be discipline

I think teachers need to be given serious orientation on how to cain the kids without brutalizing them

maasoap:
You never lived near a teacher's house for once? Or how many times did you see your teacher brutalising his children from your primary school to University?
It will be allowed to slide when we stop disagreeing

My parents are teachers, so please just keep it moving.

I don't agree with your views. No be by force.