Juliusmalema:



Please let this your lie end in Imo state.

Eze nri wasn't invented by whitemen.

Infact such hardly exist in Anambra state.

Facts abound.

I said the version you have today was invented by white man

ThatFairGuy1:
Well, nothing bad in reaping what one sow. No sympathy given

THE SAME ROACHES OKOROCHA WEY YOU DEY HAIL WHEN HE WAS BUSY BUILDING YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOUR STATUS

ezenwajosh:
I said the version you have today was invented by white man

Explain the version we have today and how the whitemen made it so?

You can't just go to a public space and be making careless statement.

naptu2:


They were re-invented? Which means that they existed before the colonialists "reinvented" them. Which means that there were monarchs before the colonialists came to reinvent them?

that's what am saying we never had a king thats dethroned by a governor....we never had anything governor before

WHAT YOU CALL KINGS TODAY IN IGBO LANDS ARE WHITE MANS WARRANT CHIEFS

Ilomuanya is a certified 419er... Very renowned for that. Everybody in Imo state knows that..
I would have slapped him deaf in tat aircraft if I was Rochas..

ezenwajosh:
that's what am saying we never had a king thats dethroned by a governor....we never had anything governor before

WHAT YOU CALL KINGS TODAY IN IGBO LANDS ARE WHITE MANS WARRANT CHIEFS

That's not what you previously said. Since you said that they were reinvented, then that means that they existed before the colonialist came.


There were no Nigerian governors anywhere before the colonialists came, but there were kings in many places, so that point is moot.

Okorocha don suffer sha. Power don't last forever, see ya life now.

Juliusmalema:


Explain the version we have today and how the whitemen made it so?

You can't just go to a public space and be making careless statement.

The version you have today are called warrant chiefs they are under the governor.... And the governor can dethroned them

Before most Igbo's are never generally known to have a feudal system of government....WE RATHER KNOWN GENERALLY TO PRACTICE REPUBLICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IN IGBO LAND

Juliusmalema:



Nice question.

But bear this in mind as far Imo state is concerned they have no king.

It is a whole set of unorganized community.

Ezenwajosh is only trying to lump their failures of Kingship to others.

What's this laughable fixation on Imo state?
What actually is the point?

I foresee Wike receiving slap from that chief he was deriding

owobokiri:

What's this laughable fixation on Imo state?
What actually is the point?

my dear I don't know....am not even from imo state

ezenwajosh:


Kingship is not an Igbo culture we never practised monarchy forget nollywood and their fiction

This was your original point, but you can see that it is not accurate. You have admitted that the Eze Nri, Obi of Onitsha, Obi of Agbor and Asagba of Asaba existed before the arrival of the colonialists, which means that some Igbos practiced monarchy and some did not.


The fact that there are currently governors and that the governors can remove monarchs does not change the fact that monarchs existed in Igboland before the arrival of the colonialists.

ezenwajosh:


The version you have today are called warrant chiefs they are under the governor.... And the governor can dethroned them

Before most Igbo's are never generally known to have a feudal system of government....WE RATHER KNOWN GENERALLY TO PRACTICE REPUBLICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IN IGBO LAND

Many traditional rulers in Igboland are not warrant chiefs and have been king even before the whitemen arrived.

The republican system are just to cover una lapses of leadership.

Igbos have king and I advise you to read well though it is not lost on me that Imo lack Kingship pattern but it doesn't exist like that in other places.

Infact many communities in Igboland has her Kingship tied on blood line, how do warrant chief come to play here?

Be specific with the community you want to use as example and stop using igbo as a whole as testing ground for your propganda.

naptu2:


This was your original point, but you can see that it is not accurate. You have admitted that the Eze Nri, Obi of Onitsha, Obi of Agbor and Asagba of Asaba existed before the arrival of the colonialists, which means that some Igbos practiced monarchy and some did not.


The fact that there are currently governors and that the governors can remove monarchs does not change the fact that monarchs existed in Igboland before the arrival of the colonialists.

Bless you for this submission.

owobokiri:

What's this laughable fixation on Imo state?
What actually is the point?

No fixation but I had to correct the impression of a guy trying hard to group all Igbos under his fictitious igbo enwe Eze.

FatherCHRISTMAS:

He might end up become a very influential person on the next government.
He might even end up as the president. I wonder how those who had treated him like sh!t will feel like

Rochas might most likely end up as an influential person in prison.
The man was wicked, even grabbing land from widows. His greed is without bounds or limit. Karma shall visit him Sooner or later.

ezenwajosh:
When a governor installs and removes king that's all you need to know that KINGSHIP is not AN IGBO CULTURE

No king that can't b removed,don't say what u don't know by rubbishing your Igbo culture,if not Igbo culture,y do u have kings then?

naptu2:


Were the Eze Nri, Obi of Onitsha, Obi of Agbor and Asagba of Asaba invented by colonialists?

I think Igbo enwe eze in that context means igbo does not have a general ruler whose supremacy covers the length and breadth of igbo land; From Abakaliki to Aba Ngwa, from Asaba to Orlu.

What you have are ancient kingdoms that are today, the sizes of a community.

Whereas sultan of sokoto is the supreme leader, just as ooni is alleged to be the supreme for all Yorubas. Igbo enwe eze, but onitsha, asaba, agbor nwe eze. (Igbo doesn’t have supreme leader, but onitsha, asaba, agbor do have)

ezenwajosh:
It was invented by colonialists to help them control communities, villages....and are meant to be under a governor

Y dont u call for their removal to save the government their undeserved salaries according to u,Igbos with their backward thinking.

Such can't happen in Yoruba land.

Those ones still think their corrupt leaders have a divine mandate from heaven.

Elonmuskfan:
I think Igbo enwe eze in that context means igbo does not have a general ruler whose supremacy covers the length and breadth of igbo land; From Abakaliki to Aba Ngwa, from Asaba to Orlu.

What you have are ancient kingdoms that are today, the sizes of a community.

Whereas sultan of sokoto is the supreme leader, just as ooni is alleged to be the supreme for all Yorubas. Igbo enwe eze, but onitsha, asaba, agbor nwe eze. (Igbo doesn’t have supreme leader, but onitsha, asaba, agbor do have)

This was his post and what he wrote was very clear.

ezenwajosh:


Kingship is not an Igbo culture we never practised monarchy forget nollywood and their fiction

AyakaDunukofia:


The extant Nigerian constitution allows that for some cloudy reasons. Again, it's not about Igbo culture not having kingship; Sani Abacha deposed a Sokoto emir just as the current Kano governor deposed Sanusi II, whose father was equally deposed by Ahmadu Bello, I think.


The Nigerian law allows even the Oni of Ife, Oba of Benin or even the Obi of Onitsha to be deposed by a small boy governor of the state.

The funny part is,they are even under local government chairman not governors.

Rochas governance in Imo state has made him enemies with so many people n i feel for him....this word "am sorry" would go along way to heal many wounds if he can say it....

The only achievments Okorocha had while in power were the status he built to beautify Imo State.

FatherCHRISTMAS:

He might end up become a very influential person on the next government.
He might even end up as the president. I wonder how those who had treated him like sh!t will feel like

Rochas don cast

Juliusmalema:



Many traditional rulers in Igboland are not warrant chiefs and have been king even before the whitemen arrived.

The republican system are just to cover una lapses of leadership.

Igbos have king and I advise you to read well though it is not lost on me that Imo lack Kingship pattern but it doesn't exist like that in other places.

Infact many communities in Igboland has her Kingship tied on blood line, how do warrant chief come to play here?

Be specific with the community you want to use as example and stop igbo as a whole as testing ground for your propganda.

Source please? Very interested in learning more about this school of thought

Richard would have been better off if he hadn't been a governor.
He lost a priceless reputation

Rochas would have been better off if he hadn't been a governor.
He lost a priceless reputation that would have made his name another small god in the next 100 years

ezenwajosh:
Eze NRI, obi of onicha, asagba of asaba were all reinvented under the colonialist version of chiefs which is the one you see today under the governor of a state....IGBO ENWE EZE MEANS A king never has absolute power....infact we don't call them kings or igwe

Oga remove Asagba of Asaba from your list.Asaba people are not igbos and have always had kings/Obi.

Is only abroad that a former public office holder can walk freely after his tenure. Try it hia and we will treat ur f**k up.

Stop saying rubbish like the lunatic that you are.

ezenwajosh:


The version you have today are called warrant chiefs they are under the governor.... And the governor can dethroned them

Before most Igbo's are never generally known to have a feudal system of government....WE RATHER KNOWN GENERALLY TO PRACTICE REPUBLICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IN IGBO LAND

But the like of Peter Obi looting state fund to build himself the biggest mall in both PH n Abuja while he was the governor in Anambra is not wicked ba ? Your head is completely dead.

wingmanIII:


Rochas might most likely end up as an influential person in prison.
The man was wicked, even grabbing land from widows. His greed is without bounds or limit. Karma shall visit him Sooner or later.