Dem wan kee Roachas?
Gbas gbos everywhere he goes

tishbite41:
I know you're a Yoruba person. Stop your mischief. If the people of Asaba are not Igbo, what are they?! Fulani, Hausa or Yoruba? We're not Igbo but Nigerians massacred us in 1967. In fact, God punish you.

You are nothing but a big fool.they massacred ur kind due to foolishness.The People of deltanorth inckuding Asaba identify themselves as Anioma people and trace their ancestry from Benin kingdom.And are not igbos.period.the difference is so much.go and hug powerline if you like.

Aladdin1:
You are nothing but a big fool.they massacred ur kind due to foolishness.The People of deltanorth inckuding Asaba identify themselves as Anioma people and trace their ancestry from Benin kingdom.And are not igbos.period.the difference is so much.go and hug powerline if you like.

God punish u and ur 'Benin ancestry'. Nzeogwu is from Benin but the coup d'etat is an 'Igbo coup'. God punish u, once again.

Truthshots:


1) actually 1914 is the year of the demise of Oba Ovonramwen
2) the invasion of independent Benin empire by the British was in 1897, that is when the war opposing both kingdoms took place
3) in 1914 it is Oba Ovonramwen's son who took over with the name: Oba Eweka 2.

4) you know nothing about history, stop saying rubbish. Why do ignorant fools like you just go around talking with authority on things they know nothing about and looking down on those who actually have the knowledge ?

5) in case you don't know, let me give it to you: only the first surviving son of the Oba of Benin will become the next Oba of Benin.
That is why Benin Kingdom has a CROWN PRINCE.

What is the contribution of Benin history knowledge to life achievement that I have to dwell on the in-depth knowledge?

World wars and other relevant histories that have shaped the world are there, why do I have to dwell on one with little significance to even Nigerian history.

The people can only revolt if Oba of Benin is removed. If the Governor is adamant, the offspring who is in line will be installed (if he wishes) and life goes on

tishbite41:
God punish u and ur 'Benin ancestry'. Nzeogwu is from Benin but the coup d'etat is an 'Igbo coup'. God punish u, once again.

God punish your generation.Nzeogwu was representing you and your Biafra interest not Anioma people.Anioma people are not igbos.you cant tell us our heritage and ancestry.if it pains you go hug powerline and die.

tishbite41:
God punish u and ur 'Benin ancestry'. Nzeogwu is from Benin but the coup d'etat is an 'Igbo coup'. God punish u, once again.

stopping wasting your energy on that Bini boy Aladdin1.

Why will you be arguing with a Bini boy that is yoruba by history.

Allow him to enjoy his fooolllerrry.

Stop wasting your energy. He is on wild goose chase.

naptu2:
Tolexander, Truthshots, arazanbal


There are precedents for all of this.


Legally a governor can suspend or remove the Oba of Benin (it's happened before), but the question is what will happen afterwards?


You see, the fact is that all the kingdoms and societies in what is now Nigeria were conquered by the colonialists and the colonialists handed power to the Nigerian state and this means that the state (represented by the governor) has power over all the monarchs in Nigeria. However, there's something else you need to consider.


People always say that Abacha removed the Sultan of Sokoto, but they don't know the full story of what happened. The reverred Sultan, Sir Siddiqi Abubakar died in 1988 and the people of Sokoto wanted his son to succeed him. General Babangida appointed his friend, Ibrahim Dasuki as sultan instead. There was a huge riot in Sokoto which lasted several days and many people died. So you see, when Abacha removed Dasuki and installed the son of Sir Siddiqi, he was doing what the people of Sokoto wanted.


The late Oba of Benin, Oba Erediawa was suspended by Governor Onyereagbulam. He had annoyed the governor when the governor wanted to make the chairmanship of the council of traditional rulers rotational (the Oba of Benin had always been the chairman). The governor finally suspended the Oba when the Oba expressed support for the APC candidate in the 1999 elections.


But here's the thing. The Oba of Benin is reverred by the people of Benin and you need his cooperation for peace to reign.

The palace clarified that the Oba did not express support for the candidate and priests of Benin Kingdom laid curses on the governor.

The governor eventually rescinded the suspension and apologised to the Oba.

agbà kò ní tán lórílè

Aladdin1:
God punish your generation.Nzeogwu was representing you and your Biafra interest not Anioma people.Anioma people are not igbos.you cant tell us our heritage and ancestry.if it pains you go hug powerline and die.

We have heard you, now enjoy your peace.

Juliusmalema:



stopping wasting your energy on that Bini boy Aladdin1.

Why will you be arguing with a Bini boy that is yoruba by history.

Allow him to enjoy his fooolllerrry.

Stop wasting your energy. He is on wild goose chase.

thanks. never knew it was Aladdin. I'm Asaba. I know how many relatives I lost.

Aladdin1:
God punish your generation.Nzeogwu was representing you and your Biafra interest not Anioma people.Anioma people are not igbos.you cant tell us our heritage and ancestry.if it pains you go hug powerline and die.

go and meet ur sister in Italy. Shalom.

arazanbal:


suspended you say not removed from been an oba that what the arguement is all about bro. right from time no oba has declared any support for anybody contesting for political office, that the reason it palace made a statement to clearify things. na even military government dy on ground dat time self wy belive in brute force but at the end of the day the governor still come apologize.

It is on record that the civilian leaders have more clashes with the Traditional leaders and removal of the traditional leaders than the military.

Many of these traditional leaders always have a part which they lean towards during the election. If they do not lean towards the side of the Governor of the state and acting obvious against the governor of the state like Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, there is bound to be problem

Military governors could have physical power but not political power to do wills cos they are administrators to the military president. They can hardly do things without the consent of the Supreme Military Council

Civilian governors are more politically powerful and autonomous than the military governors

Abagworo:


Titles are auctioned in Bini too. The present Monarchy is a toothless ceremonial one.

Don't hide behind your keypads
Come to the palace and say this.

Tolexander:
[s][/s]shut that your barking mouth and get back into your cage.

If dem born Oba of Benin well make e cross him boundary

Haha... The Oba of Benin that makes and unmakes kings.

U're a joker.

Tolexander:
It is on record that the civilian leaders have more clashes with the Traditional leaders and removal of the traditional leaders than the military.

Many of these traditional leaders always have a part which they lean towards during the election. If they do not lean towards the side of the Governor of the state and acting obvious against the governor of the state like Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, there is bound to be problem

Military governors could have physical power but not political power to do wills cos they are administrators to the military president. They can hardly do things without the consent of the Supreme Military Council

Civilian governors are more politically powerful and autonomous than the military governors

Shut your ignorant mouth up. Let people with knowledge speak.

Senator Don casto okorocha, ur mata don cast tey tey

Truthshots:


Shut your ignorant mouth up. Let people with knowledge speak.

you won’t drop your ruffled feather to listen and learn from wise people here.
Continue basking in your ignorance

Tolexander:
you won’t drop your ruffled feather to listen and learn from wise people here.
Continue basking in your ignorance

So you are not only ignorant, you are also deluded.
How does a normal human being confuse amalgamation with invasion ?
You keep talking about things you know nothing about. Just shut up.

A foolish deluded person like you will just be arguing and arguing with zero knowledge, just talking like a mad man.

tonididdy:

Haha... The Oba of Benin that makes and unmakes kings.

U're a joker.

who are the kings he makes and unmakes outside Benin?

Alaafin and Ooni have more influence traditionally and politically in Nigeria today. They can be removed by their state governors

Truthshots:

So you are not only ignorant, you are also deluded.
How does a normal human being confuse amalgamation with invasion ?
You keep talking about things you know nothing about. Just shut up.

shut the eff off.

Like you know it without the google exercise you quickly underwent. If you knew it without the quick google search, it would be obvious in your post initially.

Take away your ignorance from here

naptu2:


They were re-invented? Which means that they existed before the colonialists "reinvented" them. Which means that there were monarchs before the colonialists came to reinvent them?

Eze in Igbo tradition acts more like a chief priest as against what you see today.
yes they were revered since they have a taste of pushing for the spiritual well being of their wards. but they are no kings and doesn't command they powers of a king.

Tolexander:
who are the kings he makes and unmakes outside Benin?

Alaafin and Ooni have more influence traditionally and politically in Nigeria today. They can be removed by their state governors

And you will just keep talking...
Shut up, you know nothing !

Tolexander:
who are the kings he makes and unmakes outside Benin?

Alaafin and Ooni have more influence traditionally and politically in Nigeria today. They can be removed by their state governors

Yoruba people come and hear this oh!

Tolexander:
shut the eff off.

Like you know it without the google exercise you quickly underwent. If you knew it without the quick google search, it would be obvious in your post initially.

Take away your ignorance from here

Your delusion is deep. So now you believe you can see me through your screen ?
So you understand a quick Google search would have given you the information but instead you kept saying rubbish without doing a 2 seconds research which would have given you the information. Nope 2 seconds is too much efforts for you, you must speak rubbish and make up your own reality.

Truthshots:

And you will just keep talking...
Shut up, you know nothing !

Thanks God you read that oh, me I don't have strength for such nonentity oh

Tolexander:
shut the eff off.

Like you know it without the google exercise you quickly underwent. If you knew it without the quick google search, it would be obvious in your post initially.

Take away your ignorance from here

So you want to blame me for your own lack of knowledge and sense, well here is my initial post:

Truthshots:


For your information, Oba Ovonramwen was the leader of an independent country called Benin Kingdom/Empire. He fought a war against the British and lost that war which led to him being sent into exile by the victors of that war: British empire.
It is only deluded Nigerians who think that that is the same as a governor in postcolonial Nigeria removing a monarch.

No governor can remove the Oba of Benin, nobody can dethrone the Oba of Benin.

After the demise of Oba Ovonramwen, his son Oba Eweka 2 took over, then his grand son took over then his great grand son took over and now we have his great great grand son.

You see, it is an unbroken royal bloodline which goes back several centuries and perhaps millennia.

Here is your reply:

Tolexander:
i will pardon your buffoonery.

War with who?
Southern Nigeria was already under the control of the British Government in 1914 that he was dethroned. The Oba rebelled against the colonialist And was dethroned and sent into the exile in Calabar.

Having his bloodline on the throne has nothing to do with the fact that the rebel was removed.

Oba Adeyemi was dethroned by the Action Group of Awolowo. Today, his son, Adeyemi iii is the Alaafin of the Oyo town.

Sanusi Lamido’s grandfather was dethroned by Ahmadu Bello, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi the grandson still came on to become the king.

Here is me trying to educate you further:

Truthshots:


1) actually 1914 is the year of the demise of Oba Ovonramwen
2) the invasion of independent Benin empire by the British was in 1897, that is when the war opposing both kingdoms took place
3) in 1914 it is Oba Ovonramwen's son who took over with the name: Oba Eweka 2.

4) you know nothing about history, stop saying rubbish. Why do ignorant fools like you just go around talking with authority on things they know nothing about and looking down on those who actually have the knowledge ?

5) in case you don't know, let me give it to you: only the first surviving son of the Oba of Benin will become the next Oba of Benin.
That is why Benin Kingdom has a CROWN PRINCE.

Truthshots:

And you will just keep talking...
Shut up, you know nothing !

Answer the question and stop masking your ignorance.

Tell us who are the kings being made by Oba of Benin outside his Kingdom in Nigeria

Tolexander:
Answer the question and stop masking your ignorance.

Tell us who are the kings being made by Oba of Benin outside his Kingdom in Nigeria

You really have no shame, but perhaps it is time you shut your stinky mouth. You know absolutely nothing.

Truthshots:

You really have no shame, but perhaps it is time you shut your stinky mouth. You know absolutely nothing.

Answer the question or forever keep shut

Truthshots:


Your delusion is deep. So now you believe you can see me through your screen ?
So you understand a quick Google search would have given you the information but instead you kept saying rubbish without doing a 2 seconds research which would have given you the information. Nope 2 seconds is too much efforts for you, you must speak rubbish and make up your own reality.

continue basking in your delusion.

Sometimes one needs to stop talking to fools. Expect no more reply from me.
You have mental problems.

Tolexander:
continue basking in your delusion.

naptu2:


Wrong!

Many communities in Igboland practiced acephalous democracy (meaning that they had no kings), but some communities practiced monarchy (meaning that they had kings). For example, this was not started by the colonialists:

https://imeobionitsha.org/onitsha/history-of-onitsha/

https://m.facebook.com/igboamaaka/posts/1697021507033764


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obi_of_Onitsha

wrong?
non of the link you posted there actually said that chima was the king or whatsoever, he never even got out to the promise land, as one of the links reported.
here is an extract from the second link "Whenever, in the olden days, a native doctor travelled to a place, he by custom would, on arrival, report himself to the local chief or to the head of the society of native doctors of the land. He is either the guest of the head chief of the clan or puts up with head of the local society of native doctor" local chief/ head of society.

the head of clans can suggest to move the people if he wants to but he doesn't have the full right to do so the age grades, umunna, umuada can still object....I still mentain my stand, until you get convincing evidence that the Onitsha people practiced an administrative system in which there was a king with autonomous power before the arrival of the colonialists into the Igboland.
what you ought to have said which I would agree on with you, was that, the Chief priest had quantum influence on the administration of the Igbo community, since he was seen as Divine.
and besides you only sited Onitsha the people who until today still have traces of benin kingdom in their traditional administrative system.