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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 5:38pm On Apr 17, 2021
soonest:
Methinks, Itsekiris are more yoruba than binis but their ruling house is of bini ancestry.
Both the ruling house and the ordinary people are from Benin heritage.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:40pm On Apr 17, 2021
soonest:
Methinks, Itsekiris are more yoruba than binis but their ruling house is of bini ancestry.
And the Itsekiri ruling house considers itself to be ab-initio from Ile-Ife.

So, Itsekiris as a whole (both the general populace and the ruling house) all admit to be Yoruba.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:43pm On Apr 17, 2021
Simbrixton:
we have rejected dem everywhere in fact the crisis in ologbo was engineered because we voiced our support for oduduwa republic
Of course. The itsekiri people are head and shoulder above them in all ramification. Don't you notice the Itsekiris do things with logic and calculation unlike the rest that reeks of emotion and brute.

I am from Ogun state where some Itsekiris migrated from.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:43pm On Apr 17, 2021
Here we deal with evidence. grin

Truthshots2:
[s]Both the ruling house and the ordinary people are from Benin heritage.[/s]
It is an unhidden fact that Itsekiri is a Yoruba sub-group.

Says who? shocked Well, says the Itsekiris themselves. smiley

(1) Quoting from the eyewitness account of Captain H. L. Gallwey’s “Journeys in the Benin Country”:

Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.


(2) Quoting from H. Ling Roth’s (1903) report from eyewitnesses of the late 1800s:

In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.

~ H. Ling Roth, Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors, (1903), pp.8-9.



In sum, the minority children of insecurity and inferiority complex (aka the Binis) should rest and seek other life aspirations.

Cheers! kiss

Cc: soonest

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:43pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
And the Itsekiri ruling house considers itself to be an-initio from Ile-Ife.

So, Itsekiris as a whole (both the general populace and the ruling house) all admit to be Yoruba.
Gbam!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Simbrixton(m): 5:46pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
Of course. The itsekiri people are head and shoulder above them in all ramification. Don't you notice the Itsekiris do things with logic and calculation unlike the rest that reeks of emotion and brute.

I am from Ogun state where some Itsekiris migrated from.
ijebu right?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:48pm On Apr 17, 2021
Truthshots2:

Both the ruling house and the ordinary people are from Benin heritage.
You have no regard for evidence whatsoever. You just form tales in your head to suit your battered ego hoping it becomes authentic.

You are worse than a dictator!

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Ofunwa111: 5:48pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
Gbam!








I am amazed you people do not know the person behind the moniker Truthshots2 is mentally unstable? He is the same person who uses the moniker "Nocomment" and "Nobody". He is from Oza Nagogo. He expects everyone in the South and some clans in the East of Nigeria to be of Edo origin. Then he goes about talking set theories and how many books he has written. cheesy cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 5:48pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
You have no regard for evidence whatsoever. You just form tales in your head to suit your battered ego hoping it becomes authentic.

You are worse than a dictator!

These precolonial maps and the notes of the Portuguese whom the Itsikeri presented to the Oba of Benin prove me right.
Truth is a dictator, you can't negotiate it nor debate it, it relies on only one thing: proof.

Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:49pm On Apr 17, 2021
Simbrixton:
ijebu right?
Yes, Ijebu waterside.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:50pm On Apr 17, 2021
Ofunwa111:
I am amazed you people do not know the person behind the moniker Truthshots2 is mentally unstable?

He is the same person who uses the moniker "Nocomment" and "Nobody". He is from Oza Nagogo. He expects everyone in the South and some clans in the East of Nigeria to be of Edo origin. Then he goes about talking set theories and how many books he has written. cheesy cheesy
I know the fool he is.

He reeks of insecurity.

I spit on his bald head.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:51pm On Apr 17, 2021
Here is his (Truthshots2) picture which he once posted to convince folks that he lives near light-skinned people.

One can already notice the depression and fugliness on his face. Oh his baldness can not possibly go unnoticed.

I have caused him to deactivate over seven of his many Nairaland accounts [No exaggerations].

He is certainly living a sorrowful and unfulfilled life.

I hope he schedules an appointment with a therapist before it gets too late.

cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 5:55pm On Apr 17, 2021
Ofunwa111:


I am amazed you people do not know the person behind the moniker Truthshots2 is mentally unstable? He is the same person who uses the moniker "Nocomment" and "Nobody". He is from Oza Nagogo. He expects everyone in the South and some clans in the East of Nigeria to be of Edo origin. Then he goes about talking set theories and how many books he has written. cheesy cheesy
I was asked a question about what academic field I master, I answered, someone tried to pretend he knew my academic field more than me and that I actually knew nothing about my academic field, I answered again.

You have problems understanding things happening in front of your very eyes or you are just pretending not to understand in order to troll.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:55pm On Apr 17, 2021
Ofunwa111:









I am amazed you people do not know the person behind the moniker Truthshots2 is mentally unstable? He is the same person who uses the moniker "Nocomment" and "Nobody". He is from Oza Nagogo. He expects everyone in the South and some clans in the East of Nigeria to be of Edo origin. Then he goes about talking set theories and how many books he has written. cheesy cheesy
We know. His nemesis Tao11 is here to frustrate him with evidence and logic. He will soon get freaked out and delete his moniker when his lies do not thrive. Watch out. grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 5:57pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
I know the fool he is.

He reeks of insecurity.

I spit on his bald head.
Haba! Tao11, Ki da se? Iwe i poju. grin
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:57pm On Apr 17, 2021
No notes prove you right, bald head.

Truthshots2:
[s]These precolonial maps and the notes of the Portuguese whom the Itsikeri presented to the Oba of Benin prove me right.
Truth is a dictator, you can't negotiate it nor debate it, it relies on only one thing: proof.[/s]
We hope that before the world comes to an end, we will find where your map says Itsekiris are Benin people. grin

Cc: nisai

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by soonest(f): 5:57pm On Apr 17, 2021
b4bola:


Even your oba of Benin can't refute that.
Edo people are from Ile Ife.

I think Edos aren't Yorubas but their ruling house is obviously of Yoruba ancestry.
The use of Oba instead of Ogiso.
The Oba gets to fight a Bini family like that in a mock fight to ascend the throne
And many other pointers to show the ruling is likely to be of Yoruba origin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 5:58pm On Apr 17, 2021
It is a little bit weird that some people run out of the topic in order to troll me.
Clearly I must be very important for such attention to be given to me instead of the actual topic and for people to be harassing and stalking me around from one topic to an other.
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 5:59pm On Apr 17, 2021
Truthshots2:
[s]It is a little bit weird that some people run out of the topic in order to troll me.
Clearly I must be very important for such attention to be given to me instead of the actual topic and for people to be harassing and stalking me around from one topic to an other.[/s]
No, you’re not important, neither are you being trolled.

Yes you’re only being put in your tiny little place.

Clear? cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:01pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
Haba! Tao11, Ki da se? Iwe i poju. grin
Eso e, omo iye mi. cheesy

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 6:01pm On Apr 17, 2021
soonest:


I think Edos aren't Yorubas but their ruling house is obviously of Yoruba ancestry.
The use of Oba instead of Ogiso.
The Oba gets to fight a Bini family like that in a mock fight to ascend the throne
And many other pointers to show the ruling is likely to be of Yoruba origin

1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:03pm On Apr 17, 2021
Truthshots2:

[s]I was asked a question about what academic field I master, I answered, someone tried to pretend he knew my academic field more than me and that I actually knew nothing about my academic field, I answered again.

You have problems understanding things happening in front of your very eyes or you are just pretending not to understand in order to troll.[/s]
No, you often go out of your way to say you live among light skinned people, and you know some math.

You do that (out of insecurity) to prop up your fake image and lay the foundation for your lies to follow.

Some of us are light years ahead of your chicken ‘wisdom’.

We are here to force truth into your bald skull.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by soonest(f): 6:05pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
Here we deal with evidence. grin

It is an unhidden fact that Itsekiri is a Yoruba sub-group.

Says who? shocked Well, says the Itsekiris themselves. smiley

(1) Quoting from the eyewitness account of Captain H. L. Gallwey’s “Journeys in the Benin Country”:

Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.


(2) Quoting from H. Ling Roth’s (1903) report from eyewitnesses of the late 1800s:

In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.

~ H. Ling Roth, Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors, (1903), pp.8-9.



In sum, the minority children of insecurity and inferiority complex (aka the Binis) should rest and seek other life aspirations.

Cheers! kiss

Cc: soonest

Thanks for the reference. I know for sure Itsekiri is of Yoruba ancestry. Their language leads credence to that; but their ruling family is another kettle of fish. Ogiame is a bini word. Oba of Benin has always played roles in itsekiri royal house. History has it that one of Bini princes became the first Olu. I wouldn't mind more education if you have more information as regards this

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:06pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
No notes prove your right, bald head.

We hope that before the world comes to an end, we would find where your map says Itsekiris are Benin people. grin

Cc: nisai
I never took him serious. I know he is your customer grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by Nobody: 6:07pm On Apr 17, 2021
soonest:


Thanks for the reference. I know for sure Itsekiri is of Yoruba ancestry. Their language leads credence to that; but their ruling family is another kettle of fish. Ogiame is a bini word. Oba of Benin has always played roles in itsekiri royal house. History has it that one of Bini princes became the first Olu. I wouldn't mind more education if you have more information as regards this

You are believing the sweet lies of your friend instead of facts:

Truthshots2:


1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...
Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:08pm On Apr 17, 2021
Truthshots2:
[s]1) before 1930 only one monarch answered the title Oba and that is the Oba of Benin
2) the Oni of ifa, adesoji aderemi copied the Oba title in the 1930's
3) ogiso is a made up fairytale
4) the Oba of Benin fights no family, rather we have an imposture trying to claim the throne of Benin through fairytales
5) the only people whom are actually Yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom, the rest are dahomians, slave returnees, brainwashed Edos, jebu...[/s]
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. ~ Hitchens’ Razor cheesy

Moreover, I have debunked each and every one of your listed falsehood using evidence, proof, and reason many, many times.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:08pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
Eso e, omo iye mi. cheesy
Tao wo se mi. We biro mi, we le fun mi ni mentionu grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:11pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
Tao wo se mi. We biro mi, we le fun mi ni mentionu grin
Mi-m biro re oo.

Koda mi mentionu re ni igbokan-wa yen nigbi mi fe biro fo ko ba mi tunmo oro kan si Ijebu.

Sugbon mi ri fo ko fesi.

Anyways, baratishey?

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:14pm On Apr 17, 2021
Truthshots2:
[s]You are believing the sweet lies of your friend instead of facts[/s]
So, according to a bald-headed Bini like you:
“sweet lies” = referenced quotations.
&
“fact” = your bitterness-induced concoctions.

Here is yet another evidence that (most) Binis are lunatics who are only waiting to roam the streets.

Cc: soonest

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO11(f): 6:16pm On Apr 17, 2021
nisai:
I never took him serious. I know he is your customer grin
Lol.

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by nisai: 6:25pm On Apr 17, 2021
TAO11:
Mi-m biro re oo.

Koda mi mentionu re ni igbokan-wa yen nigbi mi fe biro fo ko ba mi tunmo oro kan si Ijebu.

Sugbon mi ri fo ko fesi.

Anyways, baratishey?
Ah! Mi riii. Bi m se ma ri ipe re ki m ma yinnu? We ma mu iyi ara re oo.

Mo wa dada. Inu mi dun fo wo yi wa nibe nitorifo awon alaraka yen uro won po. grin

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Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by ogbonti: 6:25pm On Apr 17, 2021
Mraphel:


Igodomigodo is to ogiso and Bini Oba is to Yoruba. The modern Bini have adopted the igodomigodo language while Bini Yoruba are almost extinct


cool

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