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Eastlink:
Anybody can claim to be an indigene of Rivers state. After all even those wey mount Batcha for Bundu dey claim Rivers. Aboki can claim too if him get Butcher shed for Diobu. Ipob sef dey claim Oyigbo. Why?

Because Rivers doesn't discriminate. We tolerate everyone. You lots now have your Bayelsa state, I don't know wetin una still dey find for P/H.

Who are the they that tolerate? Can you name them?

Confused bunch!

AdakaBoro8:
now i see. you are the source of the stupidity... you blown out anything that come into your mind.. none of ibo practices can be compared to that of ORU.. all our forbidden things are that of the Oru.. none of the ibo forbidden is near to Oru.. Oru has no meaning in ibo.. but Oru means two great things in IJAW.. (1)Oru means gods in Ijaw... (2)Oru means ancient in Ijaw. so what heck you talking about?

Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

Igboid:
I think she might be an Igbo woman married to Ijaw people or an Ijaw married to Igbo.
But there is definitely an impurity there.

This is foolish. I honestly cannot believe what I just read. You’ve been on NL long enough and interacted with me long enough to know better, but you’re just here carrying along with the stupidity spewing from Eastlink’s mouth about me. I’m going back to the Culture section. I don’t even know why I tried to show you a modicum of modesty and goodwill by responding to your request for my thoughts on the original post. I won’t be responding to anything else on this thread.

Igboid:
I think she might be an Igbo woman married to Ijaw people or an Ijaw married to Igbo.
But there is definitely an impurity there.

"impurity" but una de find Ndoki, find Opobo, find Iwkerre

ChinenyeN:
This is foolish. I honestly cannot believe what I just read. You’ve been on NL long enough and interacted with me long enough to know better. I’m going back to the Culture section. I don’t even know why I tried to show you a modicum of modesty and goodwill by responding to your request for my thoughts on the original post. I won’t be responding to anything else on this thread.

Does mind these people with superiority complexes, that's why they can't get anything done.
He should be ashamed of himself, all of them should be ashamed of themselves.

They are not better than Nazis.

Eastlink:
Oga there are no Ijaws in Rivers state. This Bayelsa man how many time are we going to tell you guys this.

fool. Ijaws occupied 60% population in rivers state..

Eastlink:
Oga there are no Ijaws in Rivers state. This Bayelsa man how many time are we going to tell you guys this.

fool. Ijaws occupied more than 60% population in rivers state..

Eastlink:
Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

I won't waste your time with you!
Just as Chief Asari-Dokubo said you Igbo are and will the slaves of Ijaw. He also told you about Ijaw priesthood and lands scattered across were you now call Igbo states.

Igbo never had an organised society not talk of an organised religion. You are trying to provoke someone to educate you on the difference between owu and oru.

As an Ijaw from Rivers I know you Igbos too well. That why I never responded on the ethnic groups that are Oru.

You are lucky Adaka Boro answered you. This one sentence you heard from him, you've tried to put a spin on it.

It is this propaganda that will send you packing.

Oru that most Igbos can't even pronounce is what you want claim now!

PHijo:
To claim we came with the Portuguese just tells how mad you are!

I don't think case can be handled by Yabaleft.

The only ethnic group in Nigeria that was recorded as back packers and errand boys of the English were the Igbo. This happened less than 200 years ago.

There has no reference to the Ijaw as Jos. You chose to lie in a bid to pretend you know a few things.

The Portuguese had interaction with the Ijaw for up to 400 hundred years before you Igbo were discovered. Even when discovered it took over 300 years before Europeans gain direct access to you and when they did, your ignorance and greed destroyed the economy of that part of the world.

Why then did you not have any history until the coming of the Portuguese? Can you name any Ijaw ancient artefacts? Is your language related to any language in the south? It's on record that the Ijaws are the only group in the south living in the Mangrove. Ijaw were also the only southern group that relied on fishing for survival because you were never known for farming. Ijaw are also the only group that copied the European dressing. Everything about you is foreign.

The Portuguese might have interacted late with the Igbo hinterlands but they had trade dealings with the Igbos that lived near the Atlantic. The same way they had dealings and recorded the history of the Efiks was the same way they recorded the history of the likes of Bonny etc.

Eastlink:
Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

owu ogbo is ibo... guy u dull pas buhari aswear

ChinenyeN:
This is foolish. I honestly cannot believe what I just read. You’ve been on NL long enough and interacted with me long enough to know better, but you’re just here carrying along with the stupidity spewing from Eastlink’s mouth about me. I’m going back to the Culture section. I don’t even know why I tried to show you a modicum of modesty and goodwill by responding to your request for my thoughts on the original post. I won’t be responding to anything else on this thread.

dont mind those fools. cownu has brainwashed them.

PHijo:
I won't waste your time with you!
Just as Chief Asari-Dokubo said you Igbo are and will the slaves of Ijaw. He also told you about Ijaw priesthood and lands scattered across were you now call Igbo states.

Igbo never had an organised society not talk of an organised religion. You are trying to provoke someone to educate you on the difference between owu and oru.

As an Ijaw from Rivers I know you Igbos too well. That why I never responded on the ethnic groups that are Oru.

You are lucky Adaka Boro answered you. This one sentence you heard from him, you've tried to put a spin on it.

It is this propaganda that will send you packing.

Oru that most Igbos can't even pronounce is what you want claim now!

The early Dutch and British explorers called you Ijaws dwarfish. In the history of Bonny, they recorded that slaves from Brass were brought in to help the Okoloma (Ndoki) man their canoe.
Even Asari Igbo ancestor ruled over their Ijaw slaves.

If all the Kings from Amakiri of Kalabari to the King in Okrika, Nembe and up to Bonny had Igbo heritage, it means that they ruled over their Ijaw slaves.

AdakaBoro8:
owu ogbo is ibo... guy u dull pas buhari aswear

Ok if it's not Igbo why then is the incantations used in Owu-Ogbo Igbo?

PHijo:
According to Igbo propaganda David Mark whose are being killed in Benue is a Fulani man!

Saro-Wiwa who was Ogoni suddenly transformed from that to being an Ijaw!

Just as usual, your so called abandoned properties saga is a figment of your imaginations. You tell all sorts of lies in your attempt to forcefully have a foothold in Rivers state. On contrary it is Ijaw who suffered losses due to Igbo incursion in Rivers state. Before the civil war Igbos stole land and properties from the Ijaws, Ikwerres and Ogonis. Till date, a lot of families have not been able to recover their land.

There is no such first book! The Bonny kingdom, like every other Ijaw kingdom is interconnected. You Igbo are ignorant newbies how are intoxicated by the warrant chiefdoms Britain created for you in a bid to tame wild, unruly, subhuman societies.

You just exhibit your gross ignorance. Today the Ashanti kingdom covers Kumasi and her environs but some centuries ago it extended to the coast of Ghana, some parts of Togo and Ivory coast. The Kanuri extended to present day Sudan, Chad and Cameroon.

We are are not people established by other people. That is why any being can't wake and create a kingdom. Unlike Igboland where warrant chiefs are apppointing new warrant chiefs in their closet for the right price. If I choose to be king or chief in Igboland I will become one without blinking.

When you want tell your lies on your fictional status, say it where an Ijaw man won't hear. Maybe you call tell this lies to Yoruba people. They can fall for it.

It is Ndoki you never accepted you want to claim are Igbo because you think that will give you access to Rivers Ijaw.

Many you call Delta Igbos fake Igbos. The Ndoki didn't even qualify to be called fake Igbos. Now you want turn to your shining stars in bid to reap where your fathers could never have sown.

Just to burst a few of your bubbles

The oldest surviving royal institution in Nigeria is in Igboland. The Nri kingdom.

The Igbo royalty in UBANI (Bonny) existed way before the British came up with their warrant chief rubbish. These empirical observations of Bonny commenced in the 1790s, many decades before Britains came up with that crap. So make no attempts to stylishly claim that it was the British that instituted the Igbo royalty of Bonny during their warrant chief phase. These factual observations were made long before that.

Eze Nri authorised the crowning of Obas of Benin and Attahs of Igala, and the core of the cultural practices of Igbos, Binis and Igala came from Nri, which is a bonafide Igbo group, so Igbos are culturally solid and can't be made to feel inferior in an environment where they feel superior. Ighotago


Lest I forget, Ndoki owns Bonny

Afriifa:
Which Sea? Abia is part of the Oil Niger Delta and not the geographical Niger Delta.

You were asking someone how sound he is, as if you're intellectually sound yourself.
I was almost thinking you were some intellectual Wizkid until you wrote this nonsense above.

What do you mean by Abia belonging to Oil Niger Delta and not geographical Niger Delta? Are you sure you have ever studied a map of Nigeria before?

Now let me enlighten you, Abia and Imo States are geographically Niger Delta than states like Cross River and Edo!

Niger Delta in the geographical and real sense include basically the areas around the watershed tributeries of river Niger before empying into the Atlantic ocean. So, in essence, the areas that make up Niger Delta is Rivers, Bayelsa, Imo, Abia, Akwa Ibom and southern Delta State.

Eastlink:
The internet is replete with your true identity. It was the Portuguese that gave you your name and identity. Jos was the name the Portuguese called you which you localized to Izons because you have no “J” in your alphabet.

Some Jos aka Izons might be claiming Oru heritage to give your migrant status a bit of indigenous link, but you're not. You lots were invaders who came with the Portuguese. This is why land grabbing is part of your DNA.

foooool. umuturu.. subhuman talking rubbishes

ChinenyeN:
This is foolish. I honestly cannot believe what I just read. You’ve been on NL long enough and interacted with me long enough to know better, but you’re just here carrying along with the stupidity spewing from Eastlink’s mouth about me. I’m going back to the Culture section. I don’t even know why I tried to show you a modicum of modesty and goodwill by responding to your request for my thoughts on the original post. I won’t be responding to anything else on this thread.

Please don't come to political section again , you obviously can't survive here.
I thought that all these years you would have changed from your clannish ways, obviously I was wrong.

Exmilitant:
Beats me what the igbos wants from the niger delta. The ikwerres have vehemently rejected you, now you are shifting to the ijaws, good luck with that.

Bests Igbos why different tribes are forcing themselves on others in the name Niger Delta

Eastlink:
The internet is replete with your true identity. It was the Portuguese that gave you your name and identity. Jos was the name the Portuguese called you which you localized to Izons because you have no “J” in your alphabet.

Some Jos aka Izons might be claiming Oru heritage to give your migrant status a bit of indigenous link, but you're not. You lots were invaders who came with the Portuguese. This is why land grabbing is part of your DNA.

This is the Truth.

The Jos people were sea porters to the Portuguese who accompanied to them to Niger Delta where they met proto Ibibiod groups Iike Ogbia, Obolo, Abuloma,Abua , Odual and proto Edoid groups like Epie-Attisa, Engennni, proto Igboid ones in Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ndoni all occupying the riverine areas.
They assimilated many of these groups.

Eastlink:
Ok if it's not Igbo why then is the incantations used in Owu-Ogbo Igbo?

do we understand ibo that we will use ibo for incantation? u think dull like cownu

NigeriaIsZOO:
You were asking someone how sound he is, as if you're intellectually sound yourself.
I was almost thinking you were some intellectual Wizkid until you wrote this nonsense above.

What do you mean by Abia belonging to Oil Niger Delta and not geographical Niger Delta? Are you sure you have ever studied a map of Nigeria before?

Now let me enlighten you, Abia and Imo States are geographically Niger Delta than states like Cross River and Edo!

Niger Delta in the geographical and real sense include basically the areas around the watershed tributeries of river Niger before empying into the Atlantic ocean. So, in essence, the areas that make up Niger Delta is Rivers, Bayelsa, Imo, Abia, Akwa Ibom and southern Delta State.

Does any of the Igbo states empties water into the atlantic ocean?

Afriifa:
Does any of the Igbo states empties water into the atlantic ocean?

I guess the azumiri empties at your house?

pHijo and Adakaboro8
will be taking rubbish about my place
oru
lolz
I kinda love it shaa
the way the are showering praise to us,. dreaming and masturbating about us,
very soon the would start worship us

Biko you people should send your ijaw kings to our Oru in imo state...
so the can bowl to us
LMAO

but mind you, don't cross boundaries
we are not Ijaw, we are proudly Igbos

in many parts of Oru
the don't even joke with ESN or Biafra struggle

Eastlink:
Chinenye I think it's time you go and cook for your husband. I’ve come to understand one thing about you. You always want to discredit Igbo history. All since you joined Nairaland, you’ve always shown your Igbophobic tendencies. No true Igbo will do so. Forget about the fraudulent history you post from time to time, once it involves Igbo, you show your rashness.

I once challenge your Igboness in this group and up till now, you're yet to prove you're truly Ngwa. Except trying to impose one-frankenstein Ikwerre language on Ndi Ngwa, everything about you is fake.

Even before likeminds noticed this thread, you jumped in to dish out your quack point of view. So please carry your foolishness to look for where you’ll be cured and allow those with points lay them.

And how do you arrive at such conclusion that the person you are talking to is a female , anybody with the name Chineye can be female or male.

PHijo:
According to Igbo propaganda David Mark whose are being killed in Benue is a Fulani man!

Saro-Wiwa who was Ogoni suddenly transformed from that to being an Ijaw!

Just as usual, your so called abandoned properties saga is a figment of your imaginations. You tell all sorts of lies in your attempt to forcefully have a foothold in Rivers state. On contrary it is Ijaw who suffered losses due to Igbo incursion in Rivers state. Before the civil war Igbos stole land and properties from the Ijaws, Ikwerres and Ogonis. Till date, a lot of families have not been able to recover their land.

There is no such first book! The Bonny kingdom, like every other Ijaw kingdom is interconnected. You Igbo are ignorant newbies how are intoxicated by the warrant chiefdoms Britain created for you in a bid to tame wild, unruly, subhuman societies.



You just exhibit your gross ignorance. Today the Ashanti kingdom covers Kumasi and her environs but some centuries ago it extended to the coast of Ghana, some parts of Togo and Ivory coast. The Kanuri extended to present day Sudan, Chad and Cameroon.

We are are not people established by other people. That is why any being can't wake and create a kingdom. Unlike Igboland where warrant chiefs are apppointing new warrant chiefs in their closet for the right price. If I choose to be king or chief in Igboland I will become one without blinking.

When you want tell your lies on your fictional status, say it where an Ijaw man won't hear. Maybe you call tell this lies to Yoruba people. They can fall for it.

It is Ndoki you never accepted you want to claim are Igbo because you think that will give you access to Rivers Ijaw.

Many you call Delta Igbos fake Igbos. The Ndoki didn't even qualify to be called fake Igbos. Now you want turn to your shining stars in bid to reap where your fathers could never have sown.

jibberish from an ape anatomy whose ancestors and descendants till date are savages, unexposed. illiterates and a race of men whose destinies have tied with failure.

AdakaBoro8:
do we understand ibo that we will use ibo for incantation? u think dull like cownu

You see how foolish you are so your ijaw don't understand Igbo but your ijaw is claiming ndoki that speaks igbo

Better stay in your 8 local government of bayelsa state or else you will loose it.

Eastlink:
Why then did you not have any history until the coming of the Portuguese? Can you name any Ijaw ancient artefacts? Is your language related to any language in the south? It's on record that the Ijaws are the only group in the south living in the Mangrove. Ijaw were also the only southern group that relied on fishing for survival because you were never known for farming. Ijaw are also the only group that copied the European dressing. Everything about you is foreign.

The Portuguese might have interacted late with the Igbo hinterlands but they had trade dealings with the Igbos that lived near the Atlantic. The same way they had dealings and recorded the history of the Efiks was the same way they recorded the history of the likes of Bonny etc.

the ijaws had no history, neither could they boast of any explicit artefacts like Igbo ukwu e.t.c in Igbo land they were anatomy of apes whose cognitive brain cells could be likened with that of a baby camel...the Igbos gave them their identity today e.g Jaja and oko jumbo.
cc AdakaBoro8:

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Afriifa:
You are just as myopic as I thought. You can't claim to be from Delta state.. You're restricting the Ijaws to just Bayelsa. Now, who is your deputy governor? the number 2 citizen of Delta state - where is he from?

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I don't why ijaw people with no human capital want to teach Ada Anioma like me history of Delta state.

Tinubu is from osun state but govern Lagos state,does that make Tinubu a lagosan?
Governor Okowa appoint some other Of his P.As from other tribes aside Delta too.

Ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state.

Nwanyiogwashi:
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I don't why ijaw people with no human capital want to teach Ada Anioma like me history of Delta state.

Tinubu is from osun state but govern Lagos state,does that make Tinubu a lagosan?
Governor Okowa appoint some other Of his P.As from other tribes aside Delta too.

Ijaw start and end in 8 local government of bayelsa state.

Just like I expected! Hatred as consumed your sanity. If you're so inclined to your views to the extent that truth and justice becomes second considerations to you, then you're a big fool. and ur level of education or civilazation doesn't matter. Deep down you know you're a fool if that's the best counter-argument you've got to offer. Biko Scram! It was even a mistake to engage a tribal fool like you. like how can one be so fanatical to the extent of denying obvious facts! God! Go and tell your parents what you have just said here. or better still, give me your facebook I.D, let me screenshot this your comment and submit it on your timeline.. Biggest Disgrace of all Deltans. I can never believe you're from my Delta. stop disgracing my Anioma people.. spits! biko don't engage me again. your type disgusts me.

waterbrown24:
the ijaws had no history, neither could they boast of any explicit artefacts like Igbo ukwu e.t.c in Igbo land they were anatomy of apes whose cognitive brain cells could be likened with that of a baby camel...the Igbos gave them their identity today e.g Jaja and oko jumbo.
cc AdakaBoro8:

You think we are to dumb like your race to allow some western historians define our traits? nigga! u r daft I swear. So because some colonist from Europe acknowledges me to be rude u think I should be timid about my stance?
nigga I am proud for them to even account my race as such. Its a clear indication that we werw not timid or cowards like your race. Jaja is a good example, King Koko of nembe is another good example..

Nigercity:
I guess the azumiri empties at your house?

That's the best you've got. No facts. landlocked slaves..

OfoIgbo:
I have deleted quite a good chunk of what you wrote so as to make it easier for you to spot some of your statements that I have bolded for further inspection, and to point out some of your perspectives that will not stand the inquest of logic.

I noticed you complained of the OPs "ijawphobia", but then went ahead to write something that should be seen as ndoki-phobia with regards to the ownership of Bonny.
I also realise that your moniker is ChinenyeN, which has an Igbo base, but your writing suggests you are Ijaw with an Ijaw bias on the issues, especially as you backed Ijaw standpoints on 50-50 situations without any hard facts, some of which I will point out in the paragraphs below.

In the first bolded statement, you averred that Umueze-Ndoki people came from either Benin or central Ijaw. Don't expect that such statements can be taken at its face value, because further examination of this standpoint is required. If Umueze people came from central Ijaw, there MUST be some deities/shrines that this Umueze people must have in common with Ijaw people, and those shrines MUST have Ijaw names.
You have to know that Africans are extremely tribal, and in those days before Christianity, cultural breadcrumbs will be strewn all over the place to point to the fact that there is evidence that suggests father-son relationship between Ijaws and Umueze-Ndokis.
Such claims cannot be made in a vaccuum and you expect me to believe it without hard facts. Hearsay can't cut it, in this sort of statement.
Already, I know the word UMUEZE is clearly Igbo, but perhaps heavy cultural similarities like common deities can help sway this argument the Ijaw way. The absence of any such major cultural links, invariably means Umueze people are NOT of Ijaw descent, and are clearly Igbo.
Such a deity MUST be revered by all and sundry of the Umueze community, and not by an element of a stranger community within Umueze, and MUST have an Ijaw name.

I am an Nri person so I know what to look out for. Snippets from Alagoa's work won't be enough

In the second bolded statement, you claimed that Umueze people arrived Bonny in the company of some Ijaw people. Here is yet another wild statement meant to whittle down Ndoki's well acclaimed first settler achievements. Are these Ijaws being led by these group of Ndokis? What shrines/deities did they establish at Bonny on arrival? How come earlier Europeans sailors, who can be described as neutral, claim that Bonny was first peopled by the Igbos, and that the ruling family was of Igbo descent? Do you think Ijaws would have allowed Igbos to be their traditional rulers, without a war of conquest?

Observations made in the 1790s and published in 1830 in the first book ever written about Bonny, clearly made it obvious that Igbos settled first, and that the royal family was of Igbo descent.
You really have to dig deeper to come up with details to expunge the facts already established by NEUTRAL OBSERVERS, when Bonny was still relatively in its formative years (1790s) in the first book ever written about Bonny

Romanric historians. I laugh at you sha. Bonny Traditional Royal Tittle is Amayanabo, like their other Ijaw brothers in Opobo, Okrika and Bayelsa.. How about you enlighten me on that too. You are here citing books of 17th century, while the actual history of the Kingdom predates 17th century. The good news is that, Bonny's Kingship is hereditary. So you see, romantic historians like yourselfs has nothing to twist.