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Eastlink:
Why won't Oru mean god in Ijaw when you worshipped the ancient Oru who you met in the territory you settled. Oru are humans that you Ijaws gave godlike attributes.

1. Oru/Olu has different meanings in Igbo language.

2. The incantations, mask, masquerades of the Oru are all Igbotic.

3. Owu which you Ijaws termed Owu-Ogbo is Igbo. The Oru’s of Oguta founded this festival that you Ijaws borrowed.

4. Oru might mean ancient in your language which is a pointer that you met people in the place you now call Ijawland.

5. The ancient Oru had to settle permanently in the area now called Ndokwa/Oguta/Ndoni/Oru/Olumbanasa because the likes of the Benin, Igala and you Ijaws were always migrating into their communities.

Can one be more daft?

Afriifa:
That's the best you've got. No facts. landlocked slaves..

lolz
oya use that one Nd console yourself


anyway the last I checked the map azumiri is border to south by Atlantic oceans
check your Nigeria map well Rivers has no land boundaries with Akwa-ibom,
also the last time I checked azumiri proposed Port is more closer to Atlantic ocean than pH port and other ports in Nigeria

Igboid:
This Yoruba man

Shut up guy. You Igbos are not different from Fulanis.

Nigercity:
lolz
oya use that one Nd console yourself


anyway the last I checked the map azumiri is border to south by Atlantic oceans
check your Nigeria map well Rivers has no land boundaries with Akwa-ibom,
also the last time I checked azumiri proposed Port is more closer to Atlantic ocean than pH port and other ports in Nigeria

You're still running around Oga. You may do well to show me the map directly.

DubaiLandLord:
Shut up guy. You Igbos are not different from Fulanis.

Forced attachees

OfoIgbo:
I have deleted quite a good chunk of what you wrote so as to make it easier for you to spot some of your statements that I have bolded for further inspection, and to point out some of your perspectives that will not stand the inquest of logic.

I noticed you complained of the OPs "ijawphobia", but then went ahead to write something that should be seen as ndoki-phobia with regards to the ownership of Bonny.
I also realise that your moniker is ChinenyeN, which has an Igbo base, but your writing suggests you are Ijaw with an Ijaw bias on the issues, especially as you backed Ijaw standpoints on 50-50 situations without any hard facts, some of which I will point out in the paragraphs below.

In the first bolded statement, you averred that Umueze-Ndoki people came from either Benin or central Ijaw. Don't expect that such statements can be taken at its face value, because further examination of this standpoint is required. If Umueze people came from central Ijaw, there MUST be some deities/shrines that this Umueze people must have in common with Ijaw people, and those shrines MUST have Ijaw names.
You have to know that Africans are extremely tribal, and in those days before Christianity, cultural breadcrumbs will be strewn all over the place to point to the fact that there is evidence that suggests father-son relationship between Ijaws and Umueze-Ndokis.
Such claims cannot be made in a vaccuum and you expect me to believe it without hard facts. Hearsay can't cut it, in this sort of statement.
Already, I know the word UMUEZE is clearly Igbo, but perhaps heavy cultural similarities like common deities can help sway this argument the Ijaw way. The absence of any such major cultural links, invariably means Umueze people are NOT of Ijaw descent, and are clearly Igbo.
Such a deity MUST be revered by all and sundry of the Umueze community, and not by an element of a stranger community within Umueze, and MUST have an Ijaw name.

I am an Nri person so I know what to look out for. Snippets from Alagoa's work won't be enough

In the second bolded statement, you claimed that Umueze people arrived Bonny in the company of some Ijaw people. Here is yet another wild statement meant to whittle down Ndoki's well acclaimed first settler achievements. Are these Ijaws being led by these group of Ndokis? What shrines/deities did they establish at Bonny on arrival? How come earlier Europeans sailors, who can be described as neutral, claim that Bonny was first peopled by the Igbos, and that the ruling family was of Igbo descent? Do you think Ijaws would have allowed Igbos to be their traditional rulers, without a war of conquest?

Observations made in the 1790s and published in 1830 in the first book ever written about Bonny, clearly made it obvious that Igbos settled first, and that the royal family was of Igbo descent.
You really have to dig deeper to come up with details to expunge the facts already established by NEUTRAL OBSERVERS, when Bonny was still relatively in its formative years (1790s) in the first book ever written about Bonny

I fear Igbos o see the kind long epistle you dey write because of other people land

You guys are not ready for Biafra. You can all keep on wailing on social media about the online country called Biafra.

Afriifa:
Forced attachees

Some of this guys are just dumb. He feels Igbo land have access to the sea because of one river in Abia state how can people be this daft

Niger Republic fit start to dey follow Nigeria drag soon be that, say dem get access to the sea because of River Niger

I don't know why is so hard for them to accept the fact that Igbo land is land lock.

DubaiLandLord:
Some of this guys are just dumb. He feels Igbo land have access to the sea because of one river in Abia state how can people be this daft

Niger Republic fit start to dey follow Nigeria drag soon be that, say dem get access to the sea because of River Niger

I don't know why is so hard for them to accept the fact that Igbo land is land lock.

Like ehn. writing romantic histories to suit their deluded mind, forgeting reality.

Afriifa:
You think we are to dumb like your race to allow some western historians define our traits? nigga! u r daft I swear. So because some colonist from Europe acknowledges me to be rude u think I should be timid about my stance?
nigga I am proud for them to even account my race as such. Its a clear indication that we werw not timid or cowards like your race. Jaja is a good example, King Koko of nembe is another good example..

ijaw he-goat it seems u don't know the meaning of unpreprocessing in looks.go back to your dictionary and get the meaning.

savages.

waterbrown24:
ijaw he-goat it seems u don't know the meaning of unpreprocessing in looks.go back to your dictionary and get the meaning.

savages.

Trying to appear intelligent when you're obviously the daft one. For European exploiters to acknowledge the Ijaws to be so creates a suspicion that the Ijaws were not some easy conquest. A good example is King Koko of nembe. Nevertheless, you think a historial description of Europeans defines us? You think we are slaves like your types that seeks validation from your masters? spits.

Afriifa:
Romanric historians. I laugh at you sha. Bonny Traditional Royal Tittle is Amayanabo, like their other Ijaw brothers in Opobo, Okrika and Bayelsa.. How about you enlighten me on that too. You are here citing books of 17th century, while the actual history of the Kingdom predates 17th century. The good news is that, Bonny's Kingship is hereditary. So you see, romantic historians like yourselfs has nothing to twist.

As you have sought for my enlightenment, as a gracious G, I'll oblige you.

Keep off Opobo. The supreme court has already awarded it to the Jaja family, and they proudly associate with their Amaigbo Kith and kin, even with their Amanyanabo title.

Bonny has been rightly placed as an Ndoki territory, even with their Amanyanabo. Observations the 1700s have sealed that deal.

Nri-Igbos the real owners of the Igbo market day deities, also established the same market days for Igalas, yet Igbos don't go to claim Igala land. The same goes for Benin. We only acknowledge that ancient kinship with those civilisations.

Igboid:
This Yoruba man

What concerns Yoruba with that underwater creatures comment disrespecting the great Igbo nation and all you can come up with is "this Yoruba man" please if you are weak get lost, your kind is the Reason SE Igbo's are constantly disrespected on this forum.

Underwater creatures worship SS Igbo's and play slave to them online and offline but constantly disrespect SE Igbo's because of cowards like you who instead of speaking up and speaking bravely you cower under Yoruba name calling now the idiot is famzing yorubas to derail this beautiful thread and make it a Yoruba Igbo thread.

Please all you weak SE Igbo's better remain as guest on this forum instead of watering down the good jobs of people like Nigercity and nwanyiogwahi.

ChinenyeN:
This is foolish. I honestly cannot believe what I just read. You’ve been on NL long enough and interacted with me long enough to know better, but you’re just here carrying along with the stupidity spewing from Eastlink’s mouth about me. I’m going back to the Culture section. I don’t even know why I tried to show you a modicum of modesty and goodwill by responding to your request for my thoughts on the original post. I won’t be responding to anything else on this thread.

You won't be responding to anything on this thread because you've been schooled and would make a bigger fool of yourself if you attempt too.

I was feeling really embarrassed for you when eastlink, ofoigbo started with the lectures they had good facts and enough pointers to let anyone see you as a biased fool or ignorant chap.

Nwanyiogwashi:
You see how foolish you are so your ijaw don't understand Igbo but your ijaw is claiming ndoki that speaks igbo

Better stay in your 8 local government of bayelsa state or else you will loose it.

Chai this is a GBA gbos thread for Ijaws. Ijaws who send Una message. Ndigbo were brutally merciless on this thread blood everywhere. Ijaw sorry o

Afriifa:
You're still running around Oga. You may do well to show me the map directly.

You are the worst hit on this thread, why don't you just sit by the sideline and catch your breath before you give up the ghost.. you are dying man..

I recommend romance section for you, let us know when you have one of those your gal friend heart breaks again it might just hit front page.

Heed this advice I am trying to save a weak soul of a underwater creature.

waterbrown24:
the ijaws had no history, neither could they boast of any explicit artefacts like Igbo ukwu e.t.c in Igbo land they were anatomy of apes whose cognitive brain cells could be likened with that of a baby camel...the Igbos gave them their identity today e.g Jaja and oko jumbo.
cc AdakaBoro8:

shameless people. you are not even ashamed to say an european create your own histories..

IJAW cant be so low and ignorant or useless for european to tell us our own histories.... we will sued any european who dear such thing...

ibos, instead of taking the european to court for creating their own histories for them, but this subhuman tribe succumb it.. ibo is a disgraced to africa.. what slavery mentality..

Nwanyiogwashi:
You see how foolish you are so your ijaw don't understand Igbo but your ijaw is claiming ndoki that speaks igbo

Better stay in your 8 local government of bayelsa state or else you will loose it.

any Indoki that speak ibou language do it through adoption.. any Ijaw that speak english, ibou, yoruba, hausa do it as adoption..

Nigercity:
pHijo and Adakaboro8
will be taking rubbish about my place
oru
lolz
I kinda love it shaa
the way the are showering praise to us,. dreaming and masturbating about us,
very soon the would start worship us

Biko you people should send your ijaw kings to our Oru in imo state...
so the can bowl to us
LMAO

but mind you, don't cross boundaries
we are not Ijaw, we are proudly Igbos

in many parts of Oru
the don't even joke with ESN or Biafra struggle

your pronouncation for oru is totally different from the Horu or Oru we are talkin about.. your oru is different from the Ijaw ancient Oru.. bcux no ibou can ever pronounce the ancient Oru properly..

afonjaheadhunts:
You are the worst hit on this thread, why don't you just sit by the sideline and catch your breath before you give up the ghost.. you are dying man..

I recommend romance section for you, let us know when you have one of those your gal friend heart breaks again it might just hit front page.

Heed this advice I am trying to save a weak soul of a underwater creature.

Garbage! To the trash can it goes. Kindly do well to show me your fictitious map Oga. You think everyone is unelightened like you? Landlocked slaves

OfoIgbo:
As you have sought for my enlightenment, as a gracious G, I'll oblige you.

Keep off Opobo. The supreme court has already awarded it to the Jaja family, and they proudly associate with their Amaigbo Kith and kin, even with their Amanyanabo title.

Bonny has been rightly placed as an Ndoki territory, even with their Amanyanabo. Observations the 1700s have sealed that deal.

Nri-Igbos the real owners of the Igbo market day deities, also established the same market days for Igalas, yet Igbos don't go to claim Igala land. The same goes for Benin. We only acknowledge that ancient kinship with those civilisations.

You said nothing of the tranquility of the title among the two city states.

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AdakaBoro8:
any Indoki that speak ibou language do it through adoption.. any Ijaw that speak english, ibou, yoruba, hausa do it as adoption..

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So they adopt Igbo language and names
I always know that ijaw people are foolish people but doesn't know that their foolishness has been upgraded.

You will soon loose your 8 local government of bayelsa state.

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Afriifa:
Just like I expected! Hatred as consumed your sanity. If you're so inclined to your views to the extent that truth and justice becomes second considerations to you, then you're a big fool. and ur level of education or civilazation doesn't matter. Deep down you know you're a fool if that's the best counter-argument you've got to offer. Biko Scram! It was even a mistake to engage a tribal fool like you. like how can one be so fanatical to the extent of denying obvious facts! God! Go and tell your parents what you have just said here. or better still, give me your facebook I.D, let me screenshot this your comment and submit it on your timeline.. Biggest Disgrace of all Deltans. I can never believe you're from my Delta. stop disgracing my Anioma people.. spits! biko don't engage me again. your type disgusts me.

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Lolz my type disgust you because I told you the pure truth with good examples
Deputy governor of Delta state is a citizen by birth,he was born in Delta state but his parents are from southern ijaw in bayelsa state

Like I said before no ijaw ethnic group in Delta state and rivers state,any ijaw you see there are there for business like Yoruba,Hausa and Edo people.

Afriifa:
Garbage! To the trash can it goes. Kindly do well to show me your fictitious map Oga. You think everyone is unelightened like you? Landlocked slaves

Underwater creature, you will be lucky to be left with 2Lga in Bayelsa when Nigeria disintegrates, by the time all southern groups take their lands in Bayelsa you underwater creatures will have no choice but to go back to Serving your Ndoki Igbo masters as slaves in Bonny and Opobo Igboland.

Already, your people have already been shown your worth as slaves in Nigeria and asked to secure of the creek and water ways like you did for Portuguese and Ndoki 200yrs ago while we mainland Igbo's rule you for generations to come.

Calling Ijaws slave will be a compliment when Nigeria disintegrates that's why you lots are fighting tooth and nail to win non Ijaws to your side in a no existent Niger Delta shameless lots that everyone have denied.

If you cant wrap your dumb brain around the Azumini river in Abia, A quick one how can we be land locked when Bonny and Opobo is Igboland. Do Ijaws really believe Igbo's will allow Ijaws steal Igbo Islands and colonise our people whom the ijaws served as slave for 200yrs till date.

afonjaheadhunts:
Underwater creature, you will be lucky to be left with 2Lga in Bayelsa when Nigeria disintegrates, by the time all southern groups take their lands in Bayelsa you underwater creatures will have no choice but to go back to Serving your Ndoki Igbo masters as slaves in Bonny and Opobo Igboland.

Already, your people have already been shown your worth as slaves in Nigeria and asked to secure of the creek and water ways like you did for Portuguese and Ndoki 200yrs ago while we mainland Igbo's rule you for generations to come.

Calling Ijaws slave will be a compliment when Nigeria disintegrates that's why you lots are fighting tooth and nail to win non Ijaws to your side in a no existent Niger Delta shameless lots that everyone have denied.

If you cant wrap your dumb brain around the Azumini river in Abia, A quick one how can we be land locked when Bonny and Opobo is Igboland. Do Ijaws really believe Igbo's will allow Ijaws steal Igbo Islands and colonise our people whom the ijaws served as slave for 200yrs till date.

Bonny and Opobo being Igbo? lol Kai! Wetin I nogo see from nairaland kids. The following links depicts the traditional rulers of the acient Bonny and Opobo Kingdoms, as aknowledged by wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bonny
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opobo


The History of This two kingdoms are well documented as Ijaw Kingdoms.. Check the traditional rulers of these ancient Kingdoms if they sound igboid to you. Landlocked slaves. force attachees... See who the Call Ijaw slaves? lol. ur ancestors were caught as slaves by Ijaws and sold to the europeans. lol...

Afriifa:
You're still running around Oga. You may do well to show me the map directly.

Don't tell me
That at your age you still don't know how to use Google statelight map,
Anyway am not here to school you
But manage this image below
Red arrow is azumiri (it separate ABIA, Rivers and akaw ibom)

AdakaBoro8:
your pronouncation for oru is totally different from the Horu or Oru we are talkin about.. your oru is different from the Ijaw ancient Oru.. bcux no ibou can ever pronounce the ancient Oru properly..

You from far away bayelsa
With your ogogooro tongue
Will pronounce the name of my community for me...
Lolz
Anyway
I love your comedy
Keep it up shaa
So long as you keep giving also accolades am cool with that

Nigercity:
Don't tell me
That at your age you still don't know how to use Google statelight map,
Anyway am not here to school you
But manage this imagine below
Red arrow is azumiri (it separate ABIA, Rivers and akaw ibom)

Like are you kidding me? lol I wasn't disputing the fact about you having a river. I want to see where it emptied into the atlantic ocean via your state landlocked states without mentioning other states. For Instance, I can tell you where Rivers, Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, and Ondo states borders with the atlantic ocean without mentioning any state in their way.. How come you're talking about a river when we are talking about states that has access to the sea? are you that daft? like really nigga? is that the best you've got?

Nigercity:
You from far away bayelsa
With your ogogooro tongue
Will pronounce the name of my community for me...
Lolz
Anyway
I love your comedy
Keep it up shaa
So long as you keep giving also accolades am cool with that

One thing about the truth is that no matter how much you undermine it, it will stand out because that's the fact. undermining the Ijaws instead of befriending them creates a wrong impression about your image, and the Ijaws in their knowledge will not be stupid not to be concscious of your unguarded comments against them.. You (Igbos) didn't just start a war, you've lost it even before it will begin.. Landlock slaves.. force attachees..

Afriifa:
Like are you kidding me? lol I wasn't disputing the fact about you having a river. I want to see where it emptied into the atlantic ocean via your state landlocked states without mentioning other states. For Instance, I can tell you where Rivers, Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Bayelsa, and Ondo states borders with the atlantic ocean without mentioning any state in their way.. How come you're talking about a river when we are talking about states that has access to the sea? are you that daft? like really nigga? is that the best you've got?

oga cry me a river
do you even know the criteria for constructing a Port
check the distance distance of pH port to the sea and compare it to this one that's just 23 nautical miles away from the Sea
and in between the water pass through a channel which is neither Akwa-ibom nor Rivers,

once again consult your map
this is unlike the Ebonyi river that sperate akwa- cross to the Atlantic oceans
this is totally different oga!
assuming it entered any of the aforementioned state like Rivers or Akwa-ibom
those state would have fired many petitions against Abia state for trying to build a sea Port there,
even Akwa-ibom left there to develop ibom deap sea port in another location,
so before you talk trash
show me any Sea port in Nigeria more closer to the sea than this!
(the are very few, not up to 3)
not even warri port, Calabar port e.t.c

Nigercity:
oga cry me a river
do you even know the criteria for constructing a Port
check the distance distance of pH port to the sea and compare it to this one that's just 23 nautical miles away from the Sea
and in between the water pass through a channel which is neither Akwa-ibom nor Rivers,

once again consult your map
this is unlike the Ebonyi river that sperate akwa- cross to the Atlantic oceans
this is totally different oga!
assuming it entered any of the aforementioned state like Rivers or Akwa-ibom
those state would have fired many petitions against Abia state for trying to build a sea Port there,
even Akwa-ibom left there to develop ibom deap sea port in another location,
so before you talk trash
show me any Sea port in Nigeria more closer to the sea than this!
(the are very few, not up to 3)
not even warri port, Calabar port e.t.c

Can't help but laugh. oga u win! lol

Afriifa:
Can't help but laugh. oga u win! lol

Lolz
oga
of course I know I won
so next time before you start auguring
anything
just be sure
Google the distance between every Nigeria sea port to the sea

or do you think you will just build Sea port on the bank of an ocean, without considering Waves, ocean movements e.t.c
tell me how many sea Port, in there Nigeria that was degraded less than 25 nautical miles
oga
try and be close to your map biko

Afriifa:
Bonny and Opobo being Igbo? lol Kai! Wetin I nogo see from nairaland kids. The following links depicts the traditional rulers of the acient Bonny and Opobo Kingdoms, as aknowledged by wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bonny
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opobo


The History of This two kingdoms are well documented as Ijaw Kingdoms.. Check the traditional rulers of these ancient Kingdoms if they sound igboid to you. Landlocked slaves. force attachees... See who the Call Ijaw slaves? lol. ur ancestors were caught as slaves by Ijaws and sold to the europeans. lol...

History documented by who Ijaws or Europeans you refused to accept the Account of the Europeans, Brit, Portuguese or Dutch cause all give accounts of Ijaws coming from Togo or Ghana as slaves to Portuguese to work on boats and later serving as slaves to Igbos who the Europeans met when the settled on the coastal parts of the Niger. Now you refuse all of that to provide me with wiki links edited by Alagoa. You think Igbo's are fishermen who swallow everything hook linke and sinker?

Why did Ijaws not present the wiki links to supreme court that declared Opobo Jaja's personal estate. Links will not save you Opobo's know their history and the are proud Igbo's till today. Yoruba and Benin share the shame Oba title does that make them the same ethnic group, Hausa Fulani share the same title Emir, Sultan does that make them same ethnicity? Your land grabbing will attempt with revisionist historians will not award an inch of Igboland to Ijaws land grabbers.

Bonny on the other hands is not even in contest as they are proud Igbo's and with their links and history traced to mainland Igbos we share same culture, language, tradition name, attire etc with their Kith and kind in SE Igboland. Now the only thing Ijaws have with either of this group is that they are both in SS part of Nigeria how does that make Opobo or Bonny Ijaws?

Igbo's sold criminals, ex convict, and banished sons to Europeans as purnishment for crimes committed, secondly Igbo's sold into slavery were either abducted and sold or exiled, and exconvicts who committed abominations and this trades were majorly done by Igbos slave merchants not Ijaws, Ijaws were already Portuguese slaves who ferried the trade to europeans, Ijaws were also serving servants in Igbo domains, and Ijaw freeborns were slaves in Igbo homes in Bonny, Ndoki and other riverine Igboland.

I think Nigeria needs to reintroduce History in our schools so many uniformed people, however from this thread it is easy to see that Ijaws don't know their history that's why the reverence Asari an Igbo man as the greatest Ijaw and Ijaw historian. Another thing worthy note is that the greatest men in Ijaw history are Igbo's or got there with Igbo's support King Jaja of Opobo, Jumbo, Asari Dakubo, Goodluck Jonathan.