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achorladey:
Knowing how futile it is to find any such reference , they had to hold on to Job 1:4 which raises many Questions.

To cover the use of his day means day of birth what did those who translated your Bible did

Job 1: 4 Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day.* They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.........NWT 2013

*Or “at the house of each one in his turn.”

It was after this that Job began to speak and to curse the day of his birth.*.......NWT 2013

*Lit., “curse his day.”

Job 1:4 And his sons went and held a banquet+ at the house of each one* on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them......NWT 1984

Job 3:1 It was after this that Job opened his mouth and began to call down evil upon his day ......NWT 1984

Added own 1984 went further to add set 2013 .......

Yet it's all futile as the same translation told us his day means day of his birth


If it were birthdays, How then could the females be mere invitees and not celebrants considering they have a day of birth too? This is not a case of scriptures Been silent, the text is clear that this feast was done by only the sons. Which invalidates the idea of Birthdays.

When a man does something and a woman is not mentioned as doing same it means what is done by the men has no validation?

Bro we can even infer that Job also honours his day of birth with thanks to God, but becos of his difficulties we see his anger and pain torwards his day of birth.

Janosky:

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Genesis 40:20, Matthew 14:6, Jesus knew pagans celebrated birthdays.
2 Corinthians 6:14 & John 15:15, is Jesus against pagan practices- celebration of birthdays & Christmas his Father did not approve?
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The apostle Jesus converted, says Romans 15:4 and Galatians 4:8-11 were written to teach you that @ 2 Corinthians 6:14, Genesis 40:20, Matthew 14:6 and Exodus 32:2-9, Jehovah God does NOT approve "special days" of pagans, pagan practices you FALSELY claim to do for his praise.

But God himself gave Israelites special days and new moons to hold feasts.
Is God pagan?

MaxInDHouse:
Of course they are MODERN DAY servants of JEHOVAH searching the scriptures to figure out what could be wrong with Christianity and why are the fruitage not manifesting globally as expected? Matthew 7:16-18; John 13:34-35

So as the light continue to get brighter and brighter {Proverbs 4:18} they were making changes until they are able to wash away all those filthy pagan customs {Revelations 7:14} hindering the Holy Spirit from manifesting in their midst. Romans 6:1

That's why today it's only within this group that all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit can be seen, unlike others worshiping and expecting God to come down and remove Nepotism, Racism and Politics, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are quenching all the missiles that Satan is firing about causing hatred and WARS throughout the earth! Ephesians 6:11 compare to Isaiah 54:17

Stop mocking yourself.

Holyspirit is far from your Church.

Honest hearted and sincere followers can SEE that i'm not trying to mock you guys so don't be provoked Sir.
As for the Holy Spirit well it's FRUIT will continue to manifest only in the midst of those working with it, so there is no LAW whether human or divine anyone can cite or quote against them! Galatians 5:22-23 compare to Isaiah 54:17
May you have PEACE!

blueAgent:
Stop mocking yourself.
Holyspirit is far from your Church.

blueAgent:
I thought you said those laws have been done away with

Of course God's word clearly told us that we don't need those laws anymore to come closer to our God {Galatians 3:23-25} but by observing the attitude of those who laid down the foundation of Christianity we will learn all requirements {Hebrews 13:7} do you still remember what those who became believers in Ephesus did with books they were using for spiritism? Act 19:17-20

So do you have to twist Bible inorder to prove your false lies.
Where in the Bible is it written that Satan was the one that showed the wisemen star?

I already told you that Christianity is not about written laws but principles written in the hearts of adherents through meditation on the heritage of God's people {Jeremiah 31:33} so if you're not interested in our heritage you may continue with your birthday celebration.
We are not under laws but principles guiding God's people! Romans 10:2-4
May you have PEACE!

blueAgent:
Bro we can even infer that Job also honours his day of birth with thanks to God, but becos of his difficulties we see his anger and pain torwards his day of birth.

After all he would not have reasons to cause the day of his birth.

blueAgent:
But God himself gave Israelites special days and new moons to hold feasts.
Is God pagan?

God say make blueagent and Israelites dey do annual birthdays celebrations?

Bros, in your Bible, did "God himself gave Israelites special days and new moons to" do annual birthdays celebrations?

Deuteronomy 4:2..
" Do NOT add to what I command you and do NOT subtract from it."
Trust Jehovah. Obey Him and be blessed.

achorladey:
But that same apostles Jesus converted didn't say the below abi?

Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord.

An many said their birthday is special to them and does so to the Lord. But you Janosky says you know more than the same person Jesus converted the reason you added

FALSELY claim to do for his praise

And Paul's words followed

Who are you to judge the servant of another?

Are you the educated literate the master of these people to say what they do is FALSE?

To his own master he stands or falls.

Are you (the educated literate) the owner and their master?

Indeed, he will be made to stand, for the Lord can make him stand.

Even on top of their "FALSE CLAIM" the Lord can make them stand

All this long story because you add your own command to Deuteronomy 4:2 & 12:32 & Revelation 22:18-19.

Annual birthdays celebrations na Jesus Christ example to you?

Your Master set exam, give you exam paper with question to answer. You are not satisfied.

You add your own question and answer to the exam paper, oya quantirinu.
Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ !

blueAgent:
Stop mocking yourself.

Holyspirit is far from your Church.

Blueagent get holy spirit wey tell am to practice pagan celebrations wey Jesus Christ no do at all at all.

The same holy spirit dey tell blueagent and Jesus Christ to do opposing practices.
Issorait !



Matthew 28:20 (Compare John 15:15)
".. teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I (Jesus) have commanded you"

Blueagent, Achorladey and Emusan added their own- Easter, Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations.

Issorait !

blueAgent:
Why do Christians mourning knowing that pagans also mourn?

Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?

achorladey:
We are "sensitive to the conscience" of our fellow JWs, we no go do piñata there

And you and your religious leaders are careless about the conscience of those not members of your religious organization. Thank you for the notification


Anywhere else,wey piñata be like boju boju, without any sort of religious significance ,we fit do am.

Let's rephrase,

anywhere else, wey birthday be like bojuboju without any sort of religious significance, people fit do am. Correct?

The birthday and Christmas celebration una dey do no get religious significance


You and the members of the organization you belong have to be careless about the conscience of those celebrating birthdays and Christmas. You remember

Matthew 28:20,
".. teaching them to OBEY ALL THE THINGS I commanded you"

Bros, Jesus says RECEIVE SENSE.

Janosky:
Matthew 28:20,
".. teaching them to OBEY ALL THE THINGS I commanded you"

Bros, Jesus says RECEIVE SENSE.

Here's why you need the sense the most captured below once again


Anywhere else,wey piñata be like boju boju, without any sort of religious significance ,we fit do am.

Let's rephrase,

anywhere else, wey birthday be like bojuboju without any sort of religious significance, people fit do am. Correct?

Janosky:
Blueagent get holy spirit wey tell am to practice pagan celebrations wey Jesus Christ no do at all at all.

The same holy spirit dey tell blueagent and Jesus Christ to do opposing practices.
Issorait !



Matthew 28:20 (Compare John 15:15)
".. teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I (Jesus) have commanded you"

Blueagent, Achorladey and Emusan added their own- Easter, Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations.

Issorait !

Na that same holy spirit your founding fathers like Russell, Rutherford e.t.c do those celebrations up there despite. The holy spirit didn't remind them of Leviticus 18:3.

That same holy spirit equally made it clear that your members can copy and do things BABYLON THE GREAT does and inherit heaven too.

Before I forget, Matthew 28:20 was sent down by the holy Spirit in year 2000 C.E.

Janosky:
All this long story because you add your own command to Deuteronomy 4:2 & 12:32 & Revelation 22:18-19.

Annual birthdays celebrations na Jesus Christ example to you?

Your Master set exam, give you exam paper with question to answer. You are not satisfied.

You add your own question and answer to the exam paper, oya quantirinu.
Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ !

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The above is why I still believe you need those sense pass me because. I wonder how you call yourself educated literate and mumu detector.

When you see clearly you are not in anyway close to being Jesus Christ and master of these people, what did you decide to type?

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The previous post that you have responded to shows the level of your mumu detector and your shout as an educated literate. Pele!

achorladey:
Na that same holy spirit your founding fathers like Russell, Rutherford e.t.c do those celebrations up there despite. The holy spirit didn't remind them of Leviticus 18:3.

That same holy spirit equally made it clear that your members can copy and do things BABYLON THE GREAT does and inherit heaven too.

Before I forget, Matthew 28:20 was sent down by the holy Spirit in year 2000 C.E.

Imperfect men must make mistakes.
Is Achorladey Jehovah God?

Achorladey knows Leviticus 18:3 & Matthew 28:20.
Bros, are you humble to stick with Leviticus 18:3 & Matthew 28:20 ?

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

achorladey:
Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The above is why I still believe you need those sense pass me because. I wonder how you call yourself educated literate and mumu detector.

When you see clearly you are not in anyway close to being Jesus Christ and master of these people, what did you decide to type?

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

The previous post that you have responded to shows the level of your mumu detector and your shout as an educated literate. Pele!

Matthew 28:20...
Achorladey, Enemy of the gospel of Jesus Christ

Janosky:
Imperfect men must make mistakes.
Is Achorladey Jehovah God?

Achorladey knows Leviticus 18:3 & Matthew 28:20.
Bros, are you humble to stick with Leviticus 18:3 & Matthew 28:20 ?

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself.

Imperfect men must make mistakes.

And imperfect mumu like them just as you called me wise pass Jesus

Is Achorladey Jehovah God?

Another reason why you need the sense pass me. See question!!! You cannot see difference between Achorladey and Jehovah.

Bros, are you humble to stick with Leviticus 18:3 & Matthew 28:20

You mean that fake humility una like to emphasis for una meetings abi? that extends up to your post up here associated with insult and labels like the the word ENEMY just applied. Oga educated literate free me from that kind humility.

Explain why your founding fathers were unable to follow through on Matthew 28:20 and Leviticus 18:3. You have forgotten Jesus choosed them and certify them during those years abi? Why am I asking self? I remember they were of BABYLON THE GREAT and they made heaven

Janosky:
Matthew 28:20...
Achorladey, Enemy of the gospel of Jesus Christ

See what you have been reduced to Pele!

A typical example of how you see those who don't agree with the "imperfect mumu and mistake people" you call your religious leaders. Keep it in mind!

achorladey:
See what you have been reduced to Pele!

JWs proudly stick with the level of Matthew 28:20, John 15:15 and Leviticus 18:3.
Bros, Continue to stick below the level of Matthew 28:20 , DECEIVING yourself and console yourself.

Janosky:
JWs proudly stick with the level of Matthew 28:20, John 15:15 and Leviticus 18:3.
Bros, Continue DECEIVING yourself and console yourself.

Thanks for reminding me that you and your members proudly stick to those scriptures up there that the holy spirit sent forth to the earth year 2000 C.E.

Na to add deception and consolation to ENEMY of the gospel of Jesus Christ Awon humble and humility people.

achorladey:
See what you have been reduced to Pele!

A typical example of how you see those who don't agree with the "imperfect mumu and mistake people" you call your religious leaders. Keep it in mind!

Until you show proof to Nairaland that JWs wrote Matthew 28:20 in your Bible , continue DECEIVING yourself.


Matthew 28:20 (Compare John 15:15)
".. teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I (Jesus) have commanded you"

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ.

Janosky:
Until you show proof to Nairaland that JWs wrote Matthew 28:20 in your Bible , continue DECEIVING yourself.


Matthew 28:20 (Compare John 15:15)
".. teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I (Jesus) have commanded you"

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ.

Until you show proof to Nairaland that JWs wrote Matthew 28:20 in your Bible , continue DECEIVING yourself

Until your "imperfect mumu and mistake prone" religious leaders of your organization of whom you can't SIFT their teachings given to you as spiritual food shows us that Matthew 28:20 was absent in their Bible when they were celebrating CHRISTMAS and BIRTHDAYS and equally had license to make heaven.


Matthew 28:20 (Compare John 15:15)
".. teaching them to obey EVERYTHING I (Jesus) have commanded you"

Your imperfect mumu and mistake prone founders didn't obey everything Jesus commanded and they celebrated CHRISTMAS and BIRTHDAYS when that same Jesus returned and gave them appointment and approval approval amongst all the Christian denominations in existence then.

Imperfect mumu wey wise pass Jesus Christ

That post must have hit you hard. I await the day you become and declare that you are the master and finisher of these people faith. Na imperfect mumu you still see, you go still go back to ENEMY of gospel of Jesus

Janosky:
Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?

It was not mentioned does not mean he did not?

Janosky:
God say make blueagent and Israelites dey do annual birthdays celebrations?

Bros, in your Bible, did "God himself gave Israelites special days and new moons to" do annual birthdays celebrations?

Deuteronomy 4:2..
" Do NOT add to what I command you and do NOT subtract from it."
Trust Jehovah. Obey Him and be blessed.

As usual you dodged answering my question.

achorladey:
After all he would not have reasons to cause the day of his birth.

True.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God's word clearly told us that we don't need those laws anymore to come closer to our God {Galatians 3:23-25} but by observing the attitude of those who laid down the foundation of Christianity we will learn all requirements {Hebrews 13:7} do you still remember what those who became believers in Ephesus did with books they were using for spiritism? Act 19:17-20


I already told you that Christianity is not about written laws but principles written in the hearts of adherents through meditation on the heritage of God's people {Jeremiah 31:33} so if you're not interested in our heritage you may continue with your birthday celebration.
We are not under laws but principles guiding God's people! Romans 10:2-47
May you have PEACE!

Clown, you can stop to amuse me. Is better you write your own bible.

You are replacing God's law with principles?

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love

Where did Jesus mention in the above verses principles
or in the Bible were it is written that we will live by principles?

If that's true by whose principles?


Am not surprised your Church is known for false teaching and doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course God's word clearly told us that we don't need those laws anymore to come closer to our God {Galatians 3:23-25} but by observing the attitude of those who laid down the foundation of Christianity we will learn all requirements {Hebrews 13:7} do you still remember what those who became believers in Ephesus did with books they were using for spiritism? Act 19:17-20


I already told you that Christianity is not about written laws but principles written in the hearts of adherents through meditation on the heritage of God's people {Jeremiah 31:33} so if you're not interested in our heritage you may continue with your birthday celebration.
We are not under laws but principles guiding God's people! Romans 10:2-4
May you have PEACE!

Your salvation is based on principles laid down by men not God?

If you are to fellow principles laid down by so called God's people, which of them would you fellow?
Is it Israel's unfaithfulness to God and their love for pagan culture and traditions , is it the heritage you want?

MaxInDHouse:
Honest hearted and sincere followers can SEE that i'm not trying to mock you guys so don't be provoked Sir.
As for the Holy Spirit well it's FRUIT will continue to manifest only in the midst of those working with it, so there is no LAW whether human or divine anyone can cite or quote against them! Galatians 5:22-23 compare to Isaiah 54:17
May you have PEACE!

I see, that's why your church is known for several failed prophecies.

John 15:7
New King James Version
If you abide in Me, and My words,abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.


You must know Jesus words and his commandments before the Holyspirit is given to you.
Which means your Church is far from receiving it.

blueAgent:
You dodged answering my question.
Are christains supposed to mourn since pagans do it?

I like this your question. There's no single practice in the church or any Christian assembly that pagans do not have its photocopy/version.

The person who is serving Satan does what is doing to glorify Satan while the person serving God does his own to glorify God.

As for me who 1st start am no be anything, but who you have in mind for doing it.

The gentiles come follow dey do animal sacrifice, Paul said their own (i.e the gentiles') is for Satan.

*. Genesis 31:54 "KJV:Then JACOB OFFERED SACRIFICE UPON THE MOUNT, and called his brethren to eat bread: and they did eat bread, and tarried all night in the mount."

*. Acts 14:13 "KJV:Then THE PRIEST OF JUPITER, which was before their city, BROUGHT OXEN and garlands unto the gates, AND WOULD HAVE DONE SACRIFICE with the people."

*. 1 Corinthians 10:20 "KJV:But I say, that THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."

Trying to claim that you are superior christians to others because of birthday party and Christmas day celebration is ERROR.

I have never celebrated my birthday but I don't condemn those who are doing it (i.e. if no sin is involved).
We are adviced to invite our friends and invite a preacher who will preach to them during the celebration. That way, some souls can be won into the kingdom and Jesus will be glorified. No buying/drinking of alcohol, no worldliness of any type. If you know you can't keep to these, better no do am.

Janosky:
Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?

"[/b]..., is mourning exclusively for pagans"[b]


Let's substitute the other words for mourning and see your answer:

is birthday celebration exclusively for pagans?

is Christmas celebration exclusively for pagans?

What are your answers?

Janosky:
Bros, is mourning exclusively for pagans?

John 13:35, Jesus mourned his friend, Lazarus.

[/b]Did he celebrate Christmas and annual birthdays?[b]

Did Jesus taught that couples should wear wedding wrings or flowers for wedding or burial?
The things watch tower point fingers at others, they have their own version of it.

This is one of the reasons it seems as if people are against them, when the same thing is pointed to them.

Flowers for burial ground, mourning, coffin, wedding wrings, kisses, etc, are all pagans practices; or show us where Jehovah gave you go ahead.