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Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by Bionic07: 12:12pm On Apr 06, 2021
shadeyinka:

I am very open to correction. I am not related to either one of them.
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Well, They are not Hausa. They are settlers from Niger or Sudan and very much akin to the Fulani in looks and character.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 2:17pm On Apr 06, 2021
Bionic07:
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Well, They are not Hausa. They are settlers from Niger or Sudan and very much akin to the Fulani in looks and character.
Okay!
So they are neither Hausa nor Fulani!

How do you think they describe themselves?
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by Bionic07: 4:13pm On Apr 06, 2021
shadeyinka:

Okay!
So they are neither Hausa nor Fulani!

How do you think they describe themselves?
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They are Fulani and don't have anything in common with Hausa.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by omoharry(f): 5:46pm On Apr 06, 2021
shadeyinka:

Yes o!
It looks like while the Fulani know who they are, they brandish the Hausa-Fulani tag to the unsuspecting and naive Hausa people. And probably because of religion, the Hausa sold themselves over to their IMAMS just like some Christian sell off themselves to their GO.

Who can defend the Hausa?
How can they wake up from their slumber and deep HYPNOSIS!
Leave the Hausas” alone. They are gone and cannot be revived. We can all see that the religious spell the Fulanis’ used on them is a very strong one that can never be undone .

The only people that are not under the spell of the Fulanis are the Hausa Christian and they are on the minority and also timid and selfish among themselves .

We are even seeing similar tactics of the Fulanis within south west in recent times .If the Yorubas are not careful, these same Fulani will creep into their circle by using their own sons and daughters from this same religion- which they once used on the Hausas’ and destroy everything that they hold dear.. We are beginning to hear of Yorubas-Fulani becos there is intermarriage among them .Fulanis do not marry anyhow .Their marriages are planned and strategic .

We are also beginning to see some disturbing division by religion in the west, which was alien among the Yorubas back then. Yorubas back then, do not allow their religion to get in the way of their social life . Now fanatics are springing up and they have started bringing religion over their culture . An example is an Oba, who is sympathetic to the Fulanis that are busy killing his people but cannot even condemn them . He also wishes to be addressed as an emir and not as an Oba at point in time.
Then we have the greatest fanatic of all-who speaks for MURIC (Akintola ). He is always silent when the Fulani headmen are on rampage killing raping and maiming his own kin but he is the first to shout to the highest heaven for any thing that touches on Islamic affairs or anything that affect the Fulanis .


So Pls Focus your energy on your southern people and see how we can leave this hell hole with share with these people that Refused to progress mentally .
So the answer is that nothing can be done about the Hausas’ they are a conquered subject through religion.

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Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 8:36pm On Apr 06, 2021
omoharry:
Leave the Hausas” alone. They are gone and cannot be revived. We can all see that the religious spell the Fulanis’ used on them is a very strong one that can never be undone .

The only people that are not under the spell of the Fulanis are the Hausa Christian and they are on the minority and also timid and selfish among themselves .

We are even seeing similar tactics of the Fulanis within south west in recent times .If the Yorubas are not careful, these same Fulani will creep into their circle by using their own sons and daughters from this same religion- which they once used on the Hausas’ and destroy everything that they hold dear.. We are beginning to hear of Yorubas-Fulani becos there is intermarriage among them .Fulanis do not marry anyhow .Their marriages are planned and strategic .

We are also beginning to see some disturbing division by religion in the west, which was alien among the Yorubas back then. Yorubas back then, do not allow their religion to get in the way of their social life . Now fanatics are springing up and they have started bringing religion over their culture . An example is an Oba, who is sympathetic to the Fulanis that are busy killing his people but cannot even condemn them . He also wishes to be addressed as an emir and not as an Oba at point in time.
Then we have the greatest fanatic of all-who speaks for MURIC (Akintola ). He is always silent when the Fulani headmen are on rampage killing raping and maiming his own kin but he is the first to shout to the highest heaven for any thing that touches on Islamic affairs or anything that affect the Fulanis .


So Pls Focus your energy on your southern people and see how we can leave this hell hole with share with these people that Refused to progress mentally .
So the answer is that nothing can be done about the Hausas’ they are a conquered subject through religion.
I very much agree with everything you said.

However, there may still be a spark of hope for the Hausa if and only if they have a knowledgeable leader from their own midst. I have spoken to a few northerners and only the Fulani of them insist that the symbiosis between Hausa and Fulani is a healthy one. For the Hausa people, they get quiet after this truth is presented to them. One can sense a sigh of despair. I guess on the day they have their own Sunday Igboho or Kalu Nwankwo, their struggle for indepencence may begin. As of today, the situation is hopeless.

The Western Muslim are being used to divide the West in the name of Islam. Unfortunately for them, they don't know that they have fallen under the Taqqiyya of the Fulani and are being used as the primary instrument in the divide and rule tactics.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 8:46pm On Apr 06, 2021
Bionic07:
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They are Fulani and don't have anything in common with Hausa.
Okay!
That means that Hausa people in government are almost non-existent!.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by allcomage: 2:57am On Apr 12, 2021
Exmilitant:
True, we are willingly selling lands to the igbos, but our worry is the way they are lumping us together with them.
Most Igbo used to regard ikwerre as Igbo given that ikwerre have 95% similarities with Igbo in culture, names, language, calendar, physique etc, but now,the new generation of Igbo have found out that ikwerre is insignificant in over all Igbo affairs and decided to let you be. Then some ikwerre claim they are Igbo publicly and belong to ohanaeze, the highest and biggest Igbo group. Then, all your neighboring tribes said ikwerre are Igbo like the ijaw, ogoni etc. The mainstream Igbo have let you be, if when Biafra is granted referendum, ikwerre can vote to be with Nigeria while Igbo become Biafra Republic. It's a win win situation.

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Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by Exmilitant(m): 7:55am On Apr 12, 2021
allcomage:

Most Igbo used to regard ikwerre as Igbo given that ikwerre have 95% similarities with Igbo in culture, names, language, calendar, physique etc, but now,the new generation of Igbo have found out that ikwerre is insignificant in over all Igbo affairs and decided to let you be. Then some ikwerre claim they are Igbo publicly and belong to ohanaeze, the highest and biggest Igbo group. Then, all your neighboring tribes said ikwerre are Igbo like the ijaw, ogoni etc. The mainstream Igbo have let you be, if when Biafra is granted referendum, ikwerre can vote to be with Nigeria while Igbo become Biafra Republic. It's a win win situation.
Rather Ikwerre's used to see and identify themselves as Igbos until the civil war when the Igbos began to denigrate, malign and sidelined us. It became glaring that we were distinct. We had to change our Igbotic names to reflect our language. I.e umu to rumu. You pushed us first.

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Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by allcomage: 1:48pm On Apr 12, 2021
Exmilitant:
Rather Ikwerre's used to see and identify themselves as Igbos until the civil war when the Igbos began to denigrate, malign and sidelined us. It became glaring that we were distinct. We had to change our Igbotic names to reflect our language. I.e umu to rumu. You pushed us first.
Could you please tell the house how Igbo denigrated, maligned and sidelined ikwerre for us to know. This is very important to dispel animosities herein .
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by ProudDick: 3:09pm On Apr 12, 2021
shadeyinka:

I very much agree with everything you said.

However, there may still be a spark of hope for the Hausa if and only if they have a knowledgeable leader from their own midst. I have spoken to a few northerners and only the Fulani of them insist that the symbiosis between Hausa and Fulani is a healthy one. For the Hausa people, they get quiet after this truth is presented to them. One can sense a sigh of despair. I guess on the day they have their own Sunday Igboho or Kalu Nwankwo, their struggle for indepencence may begin. As of today, the situation is hopeless.

The Western Muslim are being used to divide the West in the name of Islam. Unfortunately for them, they don't know that they have fallen under the Taqqiyya of the Fulani and are being used as the primary instrument in the divide and rule tactics.

Why don’t you focus on your own Igbo people and leave Hausas alone. Is it a must to dish out propaganda under a false identity?
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by sangresan(m): 3:45pm On Apr 12, 2021
shadeyinka:

So so sad dear!

I hope Hausa people on NL are reading this!
Their Taqqiya has been concluded!

The next on the agenda is the Yoruba people and Nigeria as a whole!

Next on the agenda is the Yoruba people?

This shows you are a complete fool.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 9:07pm On Apr 12, 2021
sangresan:


Next on the agenda is the Yoruba people?

This shows you are a complete fool.
Are you Fulani?
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 9:10pm On Apr 12, 2021
ProudDick:


Why don’t you focus on your own Igbo people and leave Hausas alone. Is it a must to dish out propaganda under a false identity?
I confirmed that most Hausa people are like Cattles to the Fulani: it is sad when a slave enjoys putting on its chains!
We shouldn't be together with such a people with the lowest self esteem because they drag everybody down to their level.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 3:46pm On Apr 16, 2021
shadeyinka:

I confirmed that most Hausa people are like Cattles to the Fulani: it is sad when a slave enjoys putting on its chains!
We shouldn't be together with such a people with the lowest self esteem because they drag everybody down to their level.
Your devious attempt at pitting the Hausas against the Fulanis is not just pathetic, it's corny and awfully ridiculous. Why of a sudden the great people of the South seem to have developed uncharacteristic fondness for the Hausas? The reason for the sudden and atypical and fleeting fondness is not far-fetched for the careful watchers. We know it is borne of hurt and pain for the disenfranchisement of the self-styled sophisticated and knowledgeable South from many privileges the Fulanis have got trapped under their feet. We know the South has been left befuddled as to how the foolish and uneducated North has thoroughly outwitted them in the political fiefdom of Nigeria.
Having observed that the Fulanis' wit is solely responsible for the great political success of the North, then you lot embarked on a contemptuous and fruitless journey to set these harmonious people against each other, in an attempt to set their house fire and wrest power from them. Shame on all you!
Most of you Christians will burn in hell more for your malicious hypocrisy than idolatrous worshipping of your fellow man. Abi is your god not called the gentle Lamb or something, who always turn the other cheek? But you misguided hypocrites are not happy because the Hausas turned the other and chose to live in harmony with their conquerors in perpetuity. If those people turned on each other tomorrow because of your seditious comments, you think your gentle Lamb god would be proud of you for actualising his message?

After all, the Hausas are not the only conquered tribe in the world. People, kingdoms, and empires get conquered. Your white masters from Europe almost wiped out the Indians in America, the aborigines in Australia, etc and usurped their respective lands but we don't see you lot crying and writing polemics about it. (Even though your your white masters are still in their ever violent conquering streak in Palestine.)
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 7:09pm On Apr 16, 2021
aadoiza:

Your devious attempt at pitting the Hausas against the Fulanis is not just pathetic, it's corny and awfully ridiculous. Why of a sudden the great people of the South seem to have developed uncharacteristic fondness for the Hausas? The reason for the sudden and atypical and fleeting fondness is not far-fetched for the careful watchers. We know it is borne of hurt and pain for the disenfranchisement of the self-styled sophisticated and knowledgeable South from many privileges the Fulanis have got trapped under their feet. We know the South has been left befuddled as to how the foolish and uneducated North has thoroughly outwitted them in the political fiefdom of Nigeria.
Having observed that the Fulanis' wit is solely responsible for the great political success of the North, then you lot embarked on a contemptuous and fruitless journey to set these harmonious people against each other, in an attempt to set their house fire and wrest power from them. Shame on all you!
Most of you Christians will burn in hell more for your malicious hypocrisy than idolatrous worshipping of your fellow man. Abi is your god not called the gentle Lamb or something, who always turn the other cheek? But you misguided hypocrites are not happy because the Hausas turned the other and chose to live in harmony with their conquerors in perpetuity. If those people turned on each other tomorrow because of your seditious comments, you think your gentle Lamb god would be proud of you for actualising his message?

After all, the Hausas are not the only conquered tribe in the world. People, kingdoms, and empires get conquered. Your white masters from Europe almost wiped out the Indians in America, the aborigines in Australia, etc and usurped their respective lands but we don't see you lot crying and writing polemics about it. (Even though your your white masters are still in their ever violent conquering streak in Palestine.)
Hello my friend. I didn't know that you are a Northerner. I can bet that you are not Hausa: are you?

This case is extremely simple.
All you have to do is answer these few questions as this is 2021 and not 1830.

1. Is there a distinction between Fulfude and hausa language?
2. By population, which is Tribe has the largest population between the Hausa and the Fulani in Nigeria?
3. Can you mention the name of 10 prominent Hausa men/women in Government in Nigeria (You may start at 1938 if you can)?
4. Do you know any other tribe in Nigeria that are conquered and remain in bondage of another tribe till today?

It's not about Christian-Muslim argument; afterall a vast majority of BOTH Hausa and Fulani are Muslims. It's about the parasitic symbiosis between the two tribes. QED! A Fulani man know himself as FULANI AND a Hausa man know himself as HAUSA.

If you can just truthfully answer these four questions, you will make my day
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 6:49am On Apr 17, 2021
shadeyinka:

Hello my friend. I didn't know that you are a Northerner. I can bet that you are not Hausa: are you?

This case is extremely simple.
All you have to do is answer these few questions as this is 2021 and not 1830.

1. Is there a distinction between Fulfude and hausa language?
2. By population, which is Tribe has the largest population between the Hausa and the Fulani in Nigeria?
3. Can you mention the name of 10 prominent Hausa men/women in Government in Nigeria (You may start at 1938 if you can)?
4. Do you know any other tribe in Nigeria that are conquered and remain in bondage of another tribe till today?

It's not about Christian-Muslim argument; afterall a vast majority of BOTH Hausa and Fulani are Muslims. It's about the parasitic symbiosis between the two tribes. QED! A Fulani man know himself as FULANI AND a Hausa man know himself as HAUSA.

If you can just truthfully answer these four questions, you will make my day
I'm not from the North; I don't even speak Hausa.
Please don't give me the 'not christian-muslim' argument jive. In Nigeria it is always about religion and it will always be about religion. And your questions are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned
The bottom line is, the Hausas are not oblivious of their own social and political statuses respective to the their Fulani brothers in the North. The Hausas mostly lead a simple lifestyle and attach little importance to worldly status. And to the best of my knowledge, the Fulanis gladly took advantage of the Hausas' non-chalant predispositions towards worldly affairs, integrate with them well enough to establish and entrench themselves as the dominant force in the North. So I don't see a crime here. All I see is two people with different levels of aspirations and ambitions hellbent on helping one another to realise their respective objectives.
If the Fulanis were as insidious as you'd have us believe, the Hausa language would have been consigned to oblivion but it's not. In fact, it is the most widely spoken indigenous language in Africa. Go ask the native Americans what happened to their language in their own country.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 8:37am On Apr 17, 2021
aadoiza:

I'm not from the North; I don't even speak Hausa.
Please don't give me the 'not christian-muslim' argument jive. In Nigeria it is always about religion and it will always be about religion. And your questions are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned
I disagree with you as it is NOT about religion. It was a discovery I stumbled upon a few months ago because just as most Nigerian, I had believed the Hausa-Fulani association and thought that most of our prominent men in Government had been either Hausa or Fulani. My naive self had thought that the majority of the prominent Northerners in governance in Nigeria would be Hausa's because of their numerical superiority. Our Darling Daddy Buhari with his one-sided favoritsm of the Fulani made me ask myself the question. "How many Hausa people are in Buhari's Government?"

The answer I got was unbelievable for me, so, I beamed the searchlight to as far back as independence. The answer was more shocking to me as I got just two prominent names Maitama Sule and Kwakwanso. The thought that I could be mistaken made me bring it to Nairaland as there should be Hausa people who can make the corrections. This is the genesis of this thread and not religion.


aadoiza:

The bottom line is, the Hausas are not oblivious of their own social and political statuses respective to the their Fulani brothers in the North. The Hausas mostly lead a simple lifestyle and attach little importance to worldly status. And to the best of my knowledge, the Fulanis gladly took advantage of the Hausas' non-chalant predispositions towards worldly affairs, integrate with them well enough to establish and entrench themselves as the dominant force in the North. So I don't see a crime here. All I see is two people with different levels of aspirations and ambitions hellbent on helping one another to realise their respective objectives.
Your observation here is actually the problem of Nigeria because what it means is the because the Hausa by population is highly significant in Nigeria AND because they seem to be the least in terms of western education/individual economy, they decide in most cases who becomes the president of Nigeria.

Because they do as they are told, Nigerian presidential aspirants don't even have to campaign to win an election. They remind me of the "sheep" in George Orwell's book "Animal Farm". In a ship lost at sea, who should decide who is best to Captain the ship? Is it the passengers or the crew members?

aadoiza:

If the Fulanis were as insidious as you'd have us believe, the Hausa language would have been consigned to oblivion but it's not. In fact, it is the most widely spoken indigenous language in Africa. Go ask the native Americans what happened to their language in their own country.
The Native American were overwhelmed with both the Population and Technologies of the Europeans led by the British people. The Britons probably because of there numerical strength absorbed every other European languages that was represented in America including the native American languages. Also, this doesn't have any direct implication on me as a person. However, the case of the Hausa Fulani is dragging the whole nation backward. Even you in the middle belt were fooled by the "Northern Nigeria" identity until recently. I think I will equally be appalled if the Okene man in Kogi state never strives to be somebody in the state but is always subservient to the Igala people.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 1:26pm On Apr 17, 2021
shadeyinka:

I disagree with you as it is NOT about religion. It was a discovery I stumbled upon a few months ago because just as most Nigerian, I had believed the Hausa-Fulani association and thought that most of our prominent men in Government had been either Hausa or Fulani. My naive self had thought that the majority of the prominent Northerners in governance in Nigeria would be Hausa's because of their numerical superiority. Our Darling Daddy Buhari with his one-sided favoritsm of the Fulani made me ask myself the question. "How many Hausa people are in Buhari's Government?"

Yeah most of us from outside the North found this out late. But then some of us already have already past 'shock' stage you're in now. The presumed marginalisation of the Hausas is not is necessarily a culmination of Fulani subjugation but rather the implications of the interests of the Hausas lying elsewhere. It's even more insulting to the Hausas that you in the far-away South implying they are too daft to realise they're playing second fiddle to the Fulanis. But the fact is they do and have allowed the Fulanis the mantle of leadership and come to terms with the status quo. Abi why are you people the ones crying for the bereaved?


The answer I got was unbelievable for me, so, I beamed the searchlight to as far back as independence. The answer was more shocking to me as I got just two prominent names Maitama Sule and Kwakwanso. The thought that I could be mistaken made me bring it to Nairaland as there should be Hausa people who can make the corrections. This is the genesis of this thread and not religion.

Story story. Everything else is about religion but this is not because the Fulanis are making the best use of their Muslim brothers' numerical advantage, which you Christians desperately want for yourselves. Yeah right.



Your observation here is actually the problem of Nigeria because what it means is the because the Hausa by population is highly significant in Nigeria AND because they seem to be the least in terms of western education/individual economy, they decide in most cases who becomes the president of Nigeria.


My observations are firmly grounded in reality. It is you who are trying to sow seed of discord between people who have lived peacefully together for eons that need to fall back to earth. As if your own people would not take advantage of that all-determinant number if the situation were reversed.


Because they do as they are told, Nigerian presidential aspirants don't even have to campaign to win an election. They remind me of the "sheep" in George Orwell's book "Animal Farm". In a ship lost at sea, who should decide who is best to Captain the ship? Is it the passengers or the crew members?

This is where the jealousy and hate stemmed from. You wish you could have them in your own pocket. You lot sudden display of ostentatious fondness for the Hausas is just so you can align them with your political interests. You do not really care for them thus stop making it appear so.
So the Hausas should go and join forces with the hateful and tribalistic Igbos, who even detest one another more than human faeces. No, they are better off where they are.


The Native American were overwhelmed with both the Population and Technologies of the Europeans led by the British people. The Britons probably because of there numerical strength absorbed every other European languages that was represented in America including the native American languages. Also, this doesn't have any direct implication on me as a person. However, the case of the Hausa Fulani is dragging the whole nation backward. Even you in the middle belt were fooled by the "Northern Nigeria" identity until recently. I think I will equally be appalled if the Okene man in Kogi state never strives to be somebody in the state but is always subservient to the Igala people.
It does not have to have any implications on your persont to grasp the reason for citing it. It is to show you that the strong, the cunning, the devious, the ambitious will always have their ways with the weak, the honest, the simple and those who are ever willing to turn the other cheek.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 3:09pm On Apr 17, 2021
aadoiza:

Yeah most of us from outside the North found this out late. But then some of us already have already past 'shock' stage you're in now. The presumed marginalisation of the Hausas is not is necessarily a culmination of Fulani subjugation but rather the implications of the interests of the Hausas lying elsewhere. It's even more insulting to the Hausas that you in the far-away South implying they are too daft to realise they're playing second fiddle to the Fulanis. But the fact is they do and have allowed the Fulanis the mantle of leadership and come to terms with the status quo. Abi why are you people the ones crying for the bereaved?
Unfortunately, Buhari opened my eyes. I can truely say I understand why Nigeria is backward



aadoiza:

Story story. Everything else is about religion but this is not because the Fulanis are making the best use of their Muslim brothers' numerical advantage, which you Christians desperately want for yourselves. Yeah right.
Christianity is different from Islam. Governance is not really part of Christianity unlike Islam.
I am from the Western part of this country where Christian/Muslim population is almost 50:50. It is sadning to see that some people think that any political move is a war between Christians and Muslims.

You are unequivocally wrong about your conclusion about this observation that it is because of Religion this truth is coming to the surface.

The adage: The Truth is BITTER is a reality. Let's call a spade for what it is.


aadoiza:

My observations are firmly grounded in reality. It is you who are trying to sow seed of discord between people who have lived peacefully together for eons that need to fall back to earth. As if your own people would not take advantage of that all-determinant number if the situation were reversed.
If you were Hausa, with your knowledge and exposure, would you desire to remain a modern day slave/herd to another tribe?

When does speaking the truth about an issue become sowing seeds of discord?
Do you truely think that the status quo is best for the Hausa people as a whole?
I can only wish them what is good also for me.

aadoiza:

This is where the jealousy and hate stemmed from. You wish you could have them in your own pocket. You lot sudden display of ostentatious fondness for the Hausas is just so you can align them with your political interests. You do not really care for them thus stop making it appear so.
So the Hausas should go and join forces with the hateful and tribalistic Igbos, who even detest one another more than human faeces. No, they are better off where they are.
I laugh in Korean language!
How does the waking up of the Hausa turn up to become being blinded again this time exchanging their slave master from the Fulani to the Yoruba?

If you truely think the Hausa are better off as second class citizen, what is the advantage to you as a person and to Nigeria as a whole.


aadoiza:

It does not have to have any implications on your persont to grasp the reason for citing it. It is to show you that the strong, the cunning, the devious, the ambitious will always have their ways with the weak, the honest, the simple and those who are ever willing to turn the other cheek.
I agree with you here. In this world, the children of satan will usually succeed against peaceful and simple People. Meaning the simple and peaceful people should invest in knowlege that will make them independent
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 3:41pm On Apr 18, 2021
shadeyinka:

Unfortunately, Buhari opened my eyes. I can truely say I understand why Nigeria is backward




Christianity is different from Islam. Governance is not really part of Christianity unlike Islam.
I am from the Western part of this country where Christian/Muslim population is almost 50:50. It is sadning to see that some people think that any political move is a war between Christians and Muslims.

You want to pretend you have never heard your christistian folk slander Islam and call it tool oppression because they believe it's what the Fulanis have used to subjugate the Hausas. As far as the respective northern and southern agenda are concerned in this country it is always about religion to most on each side of the divide, whether you like or not, else the christian-coined word 'islamization' would not exist.


You are unequivocally wrong about your conclusion about this observation that it is because of Religion this truth is coming to the surface.

The adage: The Truth is BITTER is a reality. Let's call a spade for what it is.

If you knew what reality is you'd not be making reckless and potentially inciting comments about people who have co-existed peacefully long before your country was even formed just to score cheap political points.



If you were Hausa, with your knowledge and exposure, would you desire to remain a modern day slave/herd to another tribe?

How are the Hausas slaves to Fulanis? Another reckless comment from you because you don't know what reality is. The reality is there will always be a dominant group in any association, however symbiotic or mutually beneficial it may appear to be. Accept this, and see yourself permanently shelve your jealousy of the Fulanis. And look for reasonable approach to wrest power from them.


When does speaking the truth about an issue become sowing seeds of discord?
Do you truely think that the status quo is best for the Hausa people as a whole?
I can only wish them what is good also for me.

Obviously, most of you don't the ramifications of what you put out there.
How is the status quo supposed to be my headache? It's even more infuriating for your implying that the Hausas are too daft to know what's good for them.


I laugh in Korean language!
How does the waking up of the Hausa turn up to become being blinded again this time exchanging their slave master from the Fulani to the Yoruba?

Stop deluding yourself that you're waking anyone up. If anyone really needs waking up, it's your selfish politicians in the South who have sold out to their Fulani overlords. So take your 'waking up' delusion down South and leave the people of the North alone.


If you truely think the Hausa are better off as second class citizen, what is the advantage to you as a person and to Nigeria as a whole.

Stop putting words in my mouth. My position remains, if the Hausas aren't complaining wetin consign me.
You should tell me how their association adversely affects me na.



I agree with you here. In this world, the children of satan will usually succeed against peaceful and simple People. Meaning the simple and peaceful people should invest in knowlege that will make them independent
Children of satan my foot. No matter the level of knowledge you acquire, you will still directly or indirectly be under your white masters' rule.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 4:25pm On Apr 18, 2021
aadoiza:

You want to pretend you have never heard your christistian folk slander Islam and call it tool oppression because they believe it's what the Fulanis have used to subjugate the Hausas. As far as the respective northern and southern agenda are concerned in this country it is always about religion to most on each side of the divide, whether you like or not, else the christian-coined word 'islamization' would not exist.


If you knew what reality is you'd not be making reckless and potentially inciting comments about people who have co-existed peacefully long before your country was even formed just to score cheap political points.
Yes it is very normal that people can disagree on religious views. And the more knowledgeable on is in both Islam and Christianity, the more polarized one tends to get especially for those who have analysed both religions.

However, it is very wrong to think that every political, ethnical, social or other forms of disagreement must be from coloured with religious sentiments.

Like I told you, in the west, we are almost 50:50 ratio of Christians to Moslems and to a very large extent, we live in harmony.

The case of the Hausa is pathetic in that they constitute the worst case scenario in Nigeria with respect to backwardness in Education, extreme Poverty, etc. You wonder while in 2021 some children are still Alimajiris on the street. You want to wonder while a certain group of the coalition called Nigeria is dragging everyone backward simply because they have population.

It is a source of concern if Nigeria is to become great again. Analysis of this lead to only one conclusion. The Fulani slave masters thrive on the ignorance and docility of the Hausa. If not, why does the average Fulani in the town is highly educated while their Hausa counterpart are largely uneducated?

aadoiza:

How are the Hausas slaves to Fulanis? Another reckless comment from you because you don't know what reality is. The reality is there will always be a dominant group in any association, however symbiotic or mutually beneficial it may appear to be. Accept this, and see yourself permanently shelve your jealousy of the Fulanis. And look for reasonable approach to wrest power from them.
Who is a slave?
He is a man or woman who believe that he is able to survive only from being a tool and instrument in the hand of his master. The goal of a slave is simply to please his master as his fears will not allow him even seek for independence of thought, will and actions.

If you say I am jealous of the Fulani, it means you have acknowledged that I speak the truth about the Parasitic symbiosis between the Fulani and the Hausa: AND you also believe that I wish to be like the Fulani whereby I dominate another tribe for my selfish ambition.

This second part, you have to prove and not just insinuate!


aadoiza:

Obviously, most of you don't the ramifications of what you put out there.
How is the status quo supposed to be my headache? It's even more infuriating for your implying that the Hausas are too daft to know what's good for them.

Stop deluding yourself that you're waking anyone up. If anyone really needs waking up, it's your selfish politicians in the South who have sold out to their Fulani overlords. So take your 'waking up' delusion down South and leave the people of the North alone.

Stop putting words in my mouth. My position remains, if the Hausas aren't complaining wetin consign me.
You should tell me how their association adversely affects me na.

Children of satan my foot. No matter the level of knowledge you acquire, you will still directly or indirectly be under your white masters' rule.
If you are a true Nigerian, it should bother you that we are the poverty capital of the world. That our future together is bleak unless we solve the foundermental problem plaguing us.

Who are your white master?
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 5:37pm On Apr 18, 2021
shadeyinka:

However, it is very wrong to think that every political, ethnical, social or other forms of disagreement must be from coloured with religious sentiments.

It is your people who turned everything on its head and started tagging everything religious. So spare this sermon for your intolerant, short-sighted Christian lot


Like I told you, in the west, we are almost 50:50 ratio of Christians to Moslems and to a very large extent, we live in harmony.

The case of the Hausa is pathetic in that they constitute the worst case scenario in Nigeria with respect to backwardness in Education, extreme Poverty, etc. You wonder while in 2021 some children are still Alimajiris on the street. You want to wonder while a certain group of the coalition called Nigeria is dragging everyone backward simply because they have population.

Ogebeni, I have lived all my life in Lagos, so I don't need this 50:50 talk.

The Hausas are bound to have higher level of poverty than any other region because of their population in a struggling nation like Nigeria. So it is not a complex math to solve. I don't know the figures for sure, but I am certain India has more poor people than Nigeria does.


It is a source of concern if Nigeria is to become great again. Analysis of this lead to only one conclusion. The Fulani slave masters thrive on the ignorance and docility of the Hausa. If not, why does the average Fulani in the town is highly educated while their Hausa counterpart are largely uneducated?

Are the Fulanis denying the Hausas education? Are they saying their schools are only for the Fulanis and not Hausas?


Who is a slave?
He is a man or woman who believe that he is able to survive only from being a tool and instrument in the hand of his master. The goal of a slave is simply to please his master as his fears will not allow him even seek for independence of thought, will and actions.


This your definition only applies to Asiwaju and other political whores in the South.


If you say I am jealous of the Fulani, it means you have acknowledged that I speak the truth about the Parasitic symbiosis between the Fulani and the Hausa: AND you also believe that I wish to be like the Fulani whereby I dominate another tribe for my selfish ambition.

This second part, you have to prove and not just insinuate!

Of course you lot envy their almost absolute control over the country. How could the supposed Muslim invaders be more powerful than you the indigenous people
You people only wish to wield as much power as the Fulanis, but can't do that except you turn brothers and relatives in the North against one another.
You can seek to take the power from them, I don't give a bloody hoot. After all one stupid oyinbo says all of una be political animals. Just play your dirty politics without setting brothers against each other.



If you are a true Nigerian, it should bother you that we are the poverty capital of the world. That our future together is bleak unless we solve the foundermental problem plaguing us.

So the Fulanis are the reasons you are world's poverty capital? Lol


Who are your white master?
The people who own your so-called knowledge.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 8:18pm On Apr 18, 2021
aadoiza:

It is your people who turned everything on its head and started tagging everything religious. So spare this sermon for your intolerant, short-sighted Christian lot


Ogebeni, I have lived all my life in Lagos, so I don't need this 50:50 talk.

The Hausas are bound to have higher level of poverty than any other region because of their population in a struggling nation like Nigeria. So it is not a complex math to solve. I don't know the figures for sure, but I am certain India has more poor people than Nigeria does.


Are the Fulanis denying the Hausas education? Are they saying their schools are only for the Fulanis and not Hausas?



This your definition only applies to Asiwaju and other political whores in the South.


Of course you lot envy their almost absolute control over the country. How could the supposed Muslim invaders be more powerful than you the indigenous people
You people only wish to wield as much power as the Fulanis, but can't do that except you turn brothers and relatives in the North against one another.
You can seek to take the power from them, I don't give a bloody hoot. After all one stupid oyinbo says all of una be political animals. Just play your dirty politics without setting brothers against each other.



So the Fulanis are the reasons you are world's poverty capital? Lol


The people who own your so-called knowledge.
I think religion has completely blinded you to truth and reality and that's a pity.

As far as I know, it's not a crime for anyone to be a Moslem or Christian. But anyone whether a Pastor or Islamic Cleric who leaves the message of God to dominate and profit from a people are nothing less than frauds.

It's a pity if you cannot separate good governance from religion for it seems the state of the Nation doesn't bother you. Nigeria has never been as divided as this in her history. Patriots are concerned and worried for we cannot continue like this as a nation. I've always believed in one Nigeria but the way we are going, if we don't address the problem of restructuring, we might as well go out different ways. Let Nigeria separate into four parts the North, the Middle Belt, the East and the West. Each part can grow at their own rate. Those who refuse to grow can choose to enjoy their poverty and slavery and it wouldn't be anyone's business.

But for now, let's do everything to prevent a breakup of the Nation. We have more to gain from being one undivided Nigeria United I'm our diversity.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 11:37am On Apr 19, 2021
shadeyinka:

I think religion has completely blinded you to truth and reality and that's a pity.

And now religion has blinded me because I would not have you hate-filled Christians in the name of demonstrating your political one-upmanship destroy my brothers with your skullduggery and divisive antics. But religion does not blind you lot when every caprice and, every social and political misstep of the North is ascribed to Islam and the holy Prophet. What does the Bible say about removing the plank in one's eyes again? Yeah, exactly, that's what you people should do.

As far as I know, it's not a crime for anyone to be a Moslem or Christian. But anyone whether a Pastor or Islamic Cleric who leaves the message of God to dominate and profit from a people are nothing less than frauds.

Go tell this to the missionaries.


It's a pity if you cannot separate good governance from religion for it seems the state of the Nation doesn't bother you. Nigeria has never been as divided as this in her history. Patriots are concerned and worried for we cannot continue like this as a nation. I've always believed in one Nigeria but the way we are going, if we don't address the problem of restructuring, we might as well go out different ways. Let Nigeria separate into four parts the North, the Middle Belt, the East and the West. Each part can grow at their own rate. Those who refuse to grow can choose to enjoy their poverty and slavery and it wouldn't be anyone's business.

But for now, let's do everything to prevent a breakup of the Nation. We have more to gain from being one undivided Nigeria United I'm our diversity.

If at your level you still hold the belief that a tribe is responsible for the retrogression of your country, and have failed to realise that the political bastards operate on a totally different realm from the plebes, then it says a whole lot of the knowledge and exposure you subtly brag about.
Seek enlightenment not knowledge, mate.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 3:58pm On Apr 20, 2021
aadoiza:

And now religion has blinded me because I would not have you hate-filled Christians in the name of demonstrating your political one-upmanship destroy my brothers with your skullduggery and divisive antics. But religion does not blind you lot when every caprice and, every social and political misstep of the North is ascribed to Islam and the holy Prophet. What does the Bible say about removing the plank in one's eyes again? Yeah, exactly, that's what you people should do.

Go tell this to the missionaries.


If at your level you still hold the belief that a tribe is responsible for the retrogression of your country, and have failed to realise that the political bastards operate on a totally different realm from the plebes, then it says a whole lot of the knowledge and exposure you subtly brag about.
Seek enlightenment not knowledge, mate.
For once, separate Religion from politics and then you'll see clearly. It has been proved before a Muslim-muslim ticket produced the best election in Nigeria with both Christians and Muslims voting for the same candidate.

But some people are bent on polarising us along Religious lines: I hope you are not one of them.

The truth is static irrespective of the colouration we want to give it.

The truth was what freed you from the notion that you are part of Northern Nigeria. Before that truth downed on you, you were just repeating a slogan you thought was correct. It had nothing to do with Religion, it had everything to do with politics and resource sharing
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 12:33pm On Apr 21, 2021
shadeyinka:



The truth was what freed you from the notion that you are part of Northern Nigeria. Before that truth downed on you, you were just repeating a slogan you thought was correct. It had nothing to do with Religion, it had everything to do with politics and resource sharing
What slogan again, abeg? What does the "truth downed[sic] on you“ mean?
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 3:06pm On Apr 21, 2021
aadoiza:

What slogan again, abeg? What does the "truth downed[sic] on you“ mean?
Most middle belt people used to think they were part of "the North" until recently!
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 3:45pm On Apr 21, 2021
shadeyinka:

Most middle belt people used to think they were part of "the North" until recently!
As I stated earlier, get enlightened. No be everybody dey follow the band wagon.

Have you ever studied the Nigerian map? Do you know what cardinal points are? Doe the so-called North-Central/ middle-belt appear to be in the northern region to you?
I had been involved in a very intense argument with some northern guys while I was there many years back on why the North-Central is not part of the North and the tag is a pathetic misnomer.
When you're enlightened you won't fall for politically-concocted misnomers like the North-Central or the Middle-East or even the Sub-Saharan bullshit.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 4:08pm On Apr 21, 2021
aadoiza:

As I stated earlier, get enlightened. No be everybody dey follow the band wagon.

Have you ever studied the Nigerian map? Do you know what cardinal points are? Doe the so-called North-Central/ middle-belt appear to be in the northern region to you?
I had been involved in a very intense argument with some northern guys while I was there many years back on why the North-Central is not part of the North and the tag is a pathetic misnomer.
When you're enlightened you won't fall for politically-concocted misnomers like the North-Central or the Middle-East or even the Sub-Saharan bullshit.
Many people doesn't mean ALL people. Even many southerners have assumed that any state above the River Niger and River Benue is the North.

Recently, however, the North Central States desire to be independent of the so called "north"!
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by aadoiza: 4:22pm On Apr 21, 2021
shadeyinka:

Many people doesn't mean ALL people. Even many southerners have assumed that any state above the River Niger and River Benue is the North.

Recently, however, the North Central States desire to be independent of the so called "north"!
Whatever suits the the north-central states, as it's none of business. All I know is peace trumps politics a million times over.
Re: Where Are The Notable Hausa People In Nigerian Politics? by shadeyinka(m): 4:39pm On Apr 21, 2021
aadoiza:

Whatever suits the the north-central states, as it's none of business. All I know is peace trumps politics a million times over.
All all care about is the greatness of this country measured in the collective greatness of her people in education, technology, wealth, healthcare and infrastructural development.

Unfortunately, the way we are going, we will only leave excruciating debt for our children

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