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ridwanmasculinn:
No Israel Before 1948
After the Second World War, European Christians rejected the Jews.
Many of them were banished from Europe. They sought refuge in Africa, especially Uganda. Uganda was not comfortable for them.
They sought refuge among Arab Muslims in the Middle East. As adherents of an Abrahamic religion, they got haven in Sham (Palestine, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon).
A majority of them settled in Palestine. Mind you, there was nothing like Israel, let alone Tel Aviv, before this time.
I don't garnish my writings with ambiguities. Let me state it clearly: before 1948, Israel was not on the world map. Ask any sincere scholar in the field of international politics diplomacy; they will tell you.
Today, Israel is waging war against their hosts. Palestinians are paying the heavy price for accommodating Jews on their land.
Unfortunately, those who do not know history are wrongly accusing Palestine of aggression. Tell me the crime in defending one honour, dignity and fatherland.
Put yourselves in their shoes; what would you do? You will fold your arms and watch those land grabbers and occupiers take over your property?

PervertProphet:
Al-qasa is not a holy site for Muslims.
Muslims as usual steal Jewish lands, prophets and culture and claim it as theirs. Just because muhammad ordered them to.

Al-qasa was the site of Jewish House of God before the Muslims bulit a mosque over it.

Even the Muslim records proves that one of the ancestors of the Jews, Solomon built the place some thousand years before Islam even came into existence. There was no Palestine as renamed by the Romans. The Land was Judea.



Even the qur'an in 5:20-26 gives all the land to Israel. There was no Palestine then.

Even Bait Al-Maqdis was supposed as said by the confused Prophet Muhammad to be built by the Jews forefather, Solomon.

Hadith
أَخْبَرَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُسْهِرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ رَبِيعَةَ بْنِ يَزِيدَ، عَنْ أَبِي إِدْرِيسَ الْخَوْلاَنِيِّ، عَنِ ابْنِ الدَّيْلَمِيِّ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ أَنَّ سُلَيْمَانَ بْنَ دَاوُدَ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَمَّا بَنَى بَيْتَ الْمَقْدِسِ سَأَلَ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ خِلاَلاً ثَلاَثَةً سَأَلَ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ حُكْمًا يُصَادِفُ حُكْمَهُ فَأُوتِيَهُ وَسَأَلَ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ مُلْكًا لاَ يَنْبَغِي لأَحَدٍ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ فَأُوتِيَهُ وَسَأَلَ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ حِينَ فَرَغَ مِنْ بِنَاءِ الْمَسْجِدِ أَنْ لاَ يَأْتِيَهُ أَحَدٌ لاَ يَنْهَزُهُ إِلاَّ الصَّلاَةُ فِيهِ أَنْ يُخْرِجَهُ مِنْ خَطِيئَتِهِ كَيَوْمِ وَلَدَتْهُ أُمُّهُ ‏"

It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:

"When Sulaiman bin Dawud finished building Bait Al-Maqdis, he asked Allah for three things: Judgement that was in harmony with His judgement, and he was given that. And he asked Allah for a dominion that no one after him would have, and he was given that. And when he finished building the Masjid he asked Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, that no one should come to it, intending only to pray there, but he would emerge free of sin as the day his mother bore him."

Sahih (Darussalam)

Sunan an-Nasa'i 693
In-book : Book 8, Hadith 6
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 694
Sunan an-Nasai

Sulaimon Bin Dawud(Solomon, son of David. Another Jewish man stolen as Prophet in Islam)

That was a brave Jewish man. Even the qur'an knows no Palestine. What Palestine?
You Muslims don't even agree with your Qur'an 5:20-26 which was copied from Numbers 13 of the Old Testament Bible. The Land was given to Israel even by your Allah.

dayoyak:
*BREAKING NEWS*
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu just made the following speech in front of the Knesset:
“To Ismail Haniya, and the leaders and operatives of Hamas:
We, the people of Israel, owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You have succeeded where we have failed. Because never before, in the history of the modern State of Israel, has the Jewish people been so united, like one person with one heart. Everyone in Israel, from Left to Right, secular and religious, is united in the knowledge that there is no accommodating an enemy that is sworn to the genocide of our people.
And now, as you continue to launch deadly missiles indiscriminately, intended to maim and murder as many civilians as possible, while you take cowardly refuge behind your own civilians - you continue to inspire us to hold strongly onto our unity. Whatever disputes we Jews may have with each other, we now know that we have one common goal: we will defeat you.
But we are offering you now one last chance. Within 24 hours, all rocket fire - and I mean all rocket fire - will cease. Completely. Forever.
I give you formal notice that our tanks are massed at the Gaza border, with artillery and air support at the ready. We have already dropped leaflets over the northern parts of the Gaza strip, warning civilians of our impending arrival, and that they should evacuate southward, forthwith.
If you fail to meet our ultimatum, we are coming in, and, with God's help, this time we will not leave. Every centimeter of land that we conquer will be annexed to Israel, so that there will *never* be another attack launched at our civilians from there.
Even so, we will continue to keep the door open to allow you to surrender gracefully. The moment you announce that you are laying down arms, we will halt our advance, and there we will draw our new borders.
If you continue to attack our citizens, we will continue to roll southwards, driving you out of territory that you will never again contaminate with your evil presence.
It pains me deeply that your civilians will be made homeless. But we did not choose this war; you did. And if our choice is between allowing our citizens to be targeted mercilessly by your genocidal savagery, versus turning your civilians into refugees, I regret that we must choose the latter.
If only you loved your people as much as you hate ours, this war would never have happened.

> To the rest of the world: Israel is tired of your ceaseless chidings that we should "show restraint". When you have your entire population under constant missile fire from an implacable enemy whose stated goal is the murder of every man, woman and child in your land, then you may come and talk to us about "restraint". Until then, we respectfully suggest that you keep your double standards to yourselves. This time, Hamas has gone too far, and we will do whatever we have to in order to protect our population.

> Hamas, once again, I thank you for bringing our people together with such clarity of mind and unity of purpose. The people of Israel do not fear the long road ahead. Am Yisrael Chai.”

Anieke39:
I Stand With isreal . Which I think every Christian should

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You need to read up on these things sir. Don't be too quick at making wrong assumptions. That you're not aware of the fact and you're now been informed on it doesn't call for you to wrongly accuse me sir.

Jerusalem is a holy land to the Muslims too and the al-Aqsa Mosque and surrounding area,marks the place from which Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is believed to have ascended to heaven. That spot the mosque is built is the third-holiest place on earth for Muslims . Every year, Muslims embark on Holy pilgrimage there and it has been so for centuries. The 3 religions and their holy sites are next to each other in Jerusalem and like I stated, the 3 religions are traced to Abraham, the first Jew. So the 3 religions are Jewish in origin. And doesn't make sense when they kill one another where some other religions are living and thriving peacefully in places they do not even classify as holy site. Maybe there is something we don't know yet because holiness should be seen in conduct and results. So far, there's nothing holy in how they kill one another in Jerusalem and it's a shame.

Please read up on the al-Aqsa Mosque sir . I am a Christian and I grew up learning about other religions and cultures outside my Yoruba culture so I can understand them and be able to make informed decisions on issues outside my native Yoruba.
Whoever is telling you that Jerusalem is the holy site only for Christians is lying to you and pulling wool over your eyes. It is the holy site for Muslims, Christians, Judaism and evem Armenians.
That mosque has a stone that marks the point he was believed to have ascended and it is side by side to the same place some Christians visit to check out what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus Christ and Golgotha where he was murdered by the same Jews.

It is not excusable not to know these facts and that the same way you go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem is the same way Moslems visit this al-Aqsa Mosque and to those Muslims pilgrims , the Laylat al-Qadr (Arabic: لیلة القدر‎), is one of the most important night to say their prayers . In case you don't know or have not bothered to read up on how special that night is, it is variously rendered as the Night of Decree,Night of Power, Night of Value, Night of Destiny,or Night of Measures. It is in Islamic belief, the night when the Quran was first sent down from Heaven to the world and also the night when the first verses of the Quran were revealed to the prophet Muhammad.

That's the night Netanyahu sent Isreali police to go attack Muslims in their holy site.
That is not a reasonable leader. He lacks the emotional intelligence to govern any country.

Check out how close and side by side the holy sites of the 3 religions are in the image below ( image credit: BBC)

Osebanjo:
It was really a minor issue abinitio but look at war lurking everywhere now. Folks tryna show they are some machoman but look how many have to die for that now. The largely arab muslims really need to learn to accept to live with Israel now. What's the hate for? Different attacks from different nations every now and then and when they fight back it becomes a crime. Israelites have no other land than where they occupy today which the God of their fore fathers gave them. The earlier arabs accept this the better for them. Tired of unnecessary hatred and incessant attacks.

Righteousness2:
I Stand Fully, Boldly and Proudly with Israel..

Osebanjo:
Even though most Israelis are not christians but it's our holy land. Ottoman is the reason we are here now and i blame Romans and Greek for that.

Empiree:
was Jesus christian?. Answer this please with evidence

PervertProphet:
The Headslamming liar is here.

Lies from both sides of your mouth.
Christianity came from Rome but there were Christians with Churches even before muhammad was born even in Ethiopia, Africa.


Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدٌ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدَةُ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ أُمَّ سَلَمَةَ، ذَكَرَتْ لِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَنِيسَةً رَأَتْهَا بِأَرْضِ الْحَبَشَةِ يُقَالُ لَهَا مَارِيَةُ، فَذَكَرَتْ لَهُ مَا رَأَتْ فِيهَا مِنَ الصُّوَرِ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ أُولَئِكَ قَوْمٌ إِذَا مَاتَ فِيهِمُ الْعَبْدُ الصَّالِحُ ـ أَوِ الرَّجُلُ الصَّالِحُ ـ بَنَوْا عَلَى قَبْرِهِ مَسْجِدًا، وَصَوَّرُوا فِيهِ تِلْكَ الصُّوَرَ، أُولَئِكَ شِرَارُ الْخَلْقِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ ‏"
Narrated `Aisha:

Um Salama told Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) about a church which she had seen in Ethiopia and which was called Mariya. She told him about the pictures which she had seen in it. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If any righteous pious man dies amongst them, they would build a place of worship at his grave and make these pictures in it; they are the worst creatures in the sight of Allah."

Sahih al-Bukhari 434
In-book : Book 8, Hadith 84
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 426

Osebanjo:
Vaughanlanrewaj There was never a time that Israel was ever christian but this doesn't change the fact that their land remains christian holy land no matter how hard you try to re-write history. You might as well say christian holy land in christian body(in your word) is in Egypt or Antioch(Turkey). He is Jesus of Nazareth not of Rome or of Ethiopia. Israel remains Holy land for the whole Christian body irrespective of the sm. Rome belongs to the western church just as Antioch(Turkey) belongs to Eastern church but there is one place that belong to us all and that is Israel. ok?

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You need to read up on these things sir. Don't be too quick at making wrong assumptions. That you're not aware of the fact and you're now been informed on it doesn't call for you to wrongly accuse me sir.

Jerusalem is a holy land to the Muslims too and the al-Aqsa Mosque and surrounding area,marks the place from which Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is believed to have ascended to heaven. That spot the mosque is built is the third-holiest place on earth for Muslims . Every year, Muslims embark on Holy pilgrimage there and it has been so for centuries. The 3 religions and their holy sites are next to each other in Jerusalem and like I stated, the 3 religions are traced to Abraham, the first Jew. So the 3 religions are Jewish in origin. And doesn't make sense when they kill one another where some other religions are living and thriving peacefully in places they do not even classify as holy site. Maybe there is something we don't know yet because holiness should be seen in conduct and results. So far, there's nothing holy in how they kill one another in Jerusalem and it's a shame.

Please read up on the al-Aqsa Mosque sir . I am a Christian and I grew up learning about other religions and cultures outside my Yoruba culture so I can understand them and be able to make informed decisions on issues outside my native Yoruba.
Whoever is telling you that Jerusalem is the holy site only for Christians is lying to you and pulling wool over your eyes. It is the holy site for Muslims, Christians, Judaism and evem Armenians.
That mosque has a stone that marks the point he was believed to have ascended and it is side by side to the same place some Christians visit to check out what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus Christ and Golgotha where he was murdered by the same Jews.

It is not excusable not to know these facts and that the same way you go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem is the same way Moslems visit this al-Aqsa Mosque and to those Muslims pilgrims , the Laylat al-Qadr (Arabic: لیلة القدر‎), is one of the most important night to say their prayers . In case you don't know or have not bothered to read up on how special that night is, it is variously rendered as the Night of Decree,Night of Power, Night of Value, Night of Destiny,or Night of Measures. It is in Islamic belief, the night when the Quran was first sent down from Heaven to the world and also the night when the first verses of the Quran were revealed to the prophet Muhammad.

That's the night Netanyahu sent Isreali police to go attack Muslims in their holy site.
That is not a reasonable leader. He lacks the emotional intelligence to govern any country.

Check out how close and side by side the holy sites of the 3 religions are in the image below ( image credit: BBC)

Righteousness2:
I Stand Fully, Boldly and Proudly with Israel..

ruggedtimi:
i no understand una again oh....so israel no be holy Land for christians again.... Christian holy Land Na where Cyprus?

slachtoffers:
Another terrorist sighted.

Oga no be to dey write long story buy ticket go join Hamas Israel go use you count scores.

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You need to read up on these things sir. Don't be too quick at making wrong assumptions. That you're not aware of the fact and you're now been informed on it doesn't call for you to wrongly accuse me sir.

Jerusalem is a holy land to the Muslims too and the al-Aqsa Mosque and surrounding area,marks the place from which Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is believed to have ascended to heaven. That spot the mosque is built is the third-holiest place on earth for Muslims . Every year, Muslims embark on Holy pilgrimage there and it has been so for centuries. The 3 religions and their holy sites are next to each other in Jerusalem and like I stated, the 3 religions are traced to Abraham, the first Jew. So the 3 religions are Jewish in origin. And doesn't make sense when they kill one another where some other religions are living and thriving peacefully in places they do not even classify as holy site. Maybe there is something we don't know yet because holiness should be seen in conduct and results. So far, there's nothing holy in how they kill one another in Jerusalem and it's a shame.

Please read up on the al-Aqsa Mosque sir . I am a Christian and I grew up learning about other religions and cultures outside my Yoruba culture so I can understand them and be able to make informed decisions on issues outside my native Yoruba.
Whoever is telling you that Jerusalem is the holy site only for Christians is lying to you and pulling wool over your eyes. It is the holy site for Muslims, Christians, Judaism and evem Armenians.
That mosque has a stone that marks the point he was believed to have ascended and it is side by side to the same place some Christians visit to check out what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus Christ and Golgotha where he was murdered by the same Jews.

It is not excusable not to know these facts and that the same way you go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem is the same way Moslems visit this al-Aqsa Mosque and to those Muslims pilgrims , the Laylat al-Qadr (Arabic: لیلة القدر‎), is one of the most important night to say their prayers . In case you don't know or have not bothered to read up on how special that night is, it is variously rendered as the Night of Decree,Night of Power, Night of Value, Night of Destiny,or Night of Measures. It is in Islamic belief, the night when the Quran was first sent down from Heaven to the world and also the night when the first verses of the Quran were revealed to the prophet Muhammad.

That's the night Netanyahu sent Isreali police to go attack Muslims in their holy site.
That is not a reasonable leader. He lacks the emotional intelligence to govern any country.

Check out how close and side by side the holy sites of the 3 religions are in the image below ( image credit: BBC)

Righteousness2:
I STAND BOLDLY and PROUDLY WITH ISRAEL

SouthEastFacts:
Christian means Christ-like (or Like Christ). So, yes, Jesus is more Christian than Christians.

We are striving to be like him (Christ like)

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You must think this is a Christian-Muslim war. Btw, Isreal is not a Christian nation and not the same as the Isreal of the new testament . This is not a Christian country(because this endtime Isreal nation practices Judaism as state religion) attacking a Muslim nation. It is Judaism versus Islam if you look if from the usual narrow prism of religion.

On a broader perspective, this is actually a war against common sense and right now, Isreal doesn't have a leader and both individuals who are the likely PM seem not to see anything wrong in their police action. It's hypocrisy when you complain against police brutality in Nigeria, France, USA but hail police brutality in Israel. Biden got to that office on his support for those calling for a stop to police brutality yet now he is calling for de escalation on both sides and insulting the intelligence of others by reminding us that Isreal has a right to defend themselves but suddenly started speaking tongue in cheek when asked if Palestine/ Hamas does not have a right to defend itself too. Nothing built on injustice will last. Someday, Palestine will become a full fledged country, give it to those guys, they're resolute. They have a right to have their own state and the 2 state solution will eventually come to realisation. I believe Muslims, Christians and Judaism worshippers can all co-exist in peace in Isreal and Palestine. They just need clear headed visionary leaders on all the sides.

Anieke39:
I Stand With isreal . Which I think every Christian should

ruggedtimi:
i no understand una again oh....so israel no be holy Land for christians again.... Christian holy Land Na where Cyprus?

Theboss100:
You're not correct. The land was given to them as a promise. Abraham their forefathers got that promise from God and it must come to pass. The nation of Israel was created due to the covenant God had with Abraham. It's an inheritance which God ordained. Are you saying you know more than Jehovah?

Remember their captivity in Egypt for 430 years. After that period, God have to take them out of Egypt to the land which he promised them through their Abraham. I can go on and on. You can't take away their inheritance. That's why every nation that fought against Israel of God, always fail woefully. It's a convanant. It can't be broken. Sorry

superjab247:
Christians can never coexist with terrorists called Muslims in peace

wickedtuna:
lol but there are brothers and sisters in Christ over there. What would Jesus have done if this happened in his time?

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You must think this is a Christian-Muslim war. Btw, Isreal is not a Christian nation and not the same as the Isreal of the new testament . This is not a Christian country(because this endtime Isreal nation practices Judaism as state religion) attacking a Muslim nation. It is Judaism versus Islam if you look if from the usual narrow prism of religion.


According to your myopic assessment of the situation, you clearly agree that firing rockets is the right response to police brutality

On a broader perspective, this is actually a war against common sense and right now, Isreal doesn't have a leader and both individuals who are the likely PM seem not to see anything wrong in their police action. It's hypocrisy when you complain against police brutality in Nigeria, France, USA but hail police brutality in Israel. Biden got to that office on his support for those calling for a stop to police brutality yet now he is calling for de escalation on both sides and insulting the intelligence of others by reminding us that Isreal has a right to defend themselves but suddenly started speaking tongue in cheek when asked if Palestine/ Hamas does not have a right to defend itself too. Nothing built on injustice will last. Someday, Palestine will become a full fledged country, give it to those guys, they're resolute. They have a right to have their own state and the 2 state solution will eventually come to realisation. I believe Muslims, Christians and Judaism worshippers can all co-exist in peace in Isreal and Palestine. They just need clear headed visionary leaders on all the sides.

ridwanmasculinn:
No Israel Before 1948
After the Second World War, European Christians rejected the Jews.
Many of them were banished from Europe. They sought refuge in Africa, especially Uganda. Uganda was not comfortable for them.
They sought refuge among Arab Muslims in the Middle East. As adherents of an Abrahamic religion, they got haven in Sham (Palestine, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon).
A majority of them settled in Palestine. Mind you, there was nothing like Israel, let alone Tel Aviv, before this time.
I don't garnish my writings with ambiguities. Let me state it clearly: before 1948, Israel was not on the world map. Ask any sincere scholar in the field of international politics diplomacy; they will tell you.
Today, Israel is waging war against their hosts. Palestinians are paying the heavy price for accommodating Jews on their land.
Unfortunately, those who do not know history are wrongly accusing Palestine of aggression. Tell me the crime in defending one honour, dignity and fatherland.
Put yourselves in their shoes; what would you do? You will fold your arms and watch those land grabbers and occupiers take over your property?

Empiree:
Sulaimon was Muslim not Judaism. All prophets were Muslims. Edifice built by Daud and Sulaimon was Masjid (mosque). Linguistics differences was the reason it is called "Temple". Prove to us that David and Solomon practiced Judaism?. They might be Jewish by tribe not religion. Issues around Jerusalem is religious one

David and Solomon were Muslims


Evidences they were Muslims. Quote yours that shows they were christians or Jews. Let me start with Abraham

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. Q3:67



[Sulaiman said], “And we were given knowledge before her, and we have been Muslims [in submission to Allah]. And that which she was worshipping other than Allah had averted her [from submission to Him]. Indeed, she was from a disbelieving people.” (Al Qur’an 27:42- 27:43)



This is mentioned in the Qur'an (42:13):


"The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein:..."




So, because of the transgression of those who became Jews, We prohibited for them good things which were made lawful for them earlier and for their preventing (people), very often, from the way of Allah,......Surely, We have revealed to you as We have revealed to NūH and to the prophets after him; and We have revealed to Ibrāhīm, Ismā‘īl, IsHāq, Ya‘qūb and their children, and to ‘Īsā, Ayyūb, Yūnus, Hārūn and Sulaimān, and We have given Zabūr to Dawūd . (We have sent) some Messengers We have already told you about, and some other Messengers We did not tell you about, and Allah has spoken to Mūsā verbally Q4:160-165

Theboss100:
You're not correct. The land was given to them as a promise. Abraham their forefathers got that promise from God and it must come to pass. The nation of Israel was created due to the covenant God had with Abraham. It's an inheritance which God ordained. Are you saying you know more than Jehovah?

Remember their captivity in Egypt for 430 years. After that period, God have to take them out of Egypt to the land which he promised them through their Abraham. I can go on and on. You can't take away their inheritance. That's why every nation that fought against Israel of God, always fail woefully. It's a convanant. It can't be broken. Sorry

Anieke39:
I Stand With isreal . Which I think every Christian should

Vaughanlanrewaj:
Your uncouth tone alone says much about you and your upbringing.

You are calling pilgrims who the Isreali police brutalized inside the mosque terrorists but supporting end to police brutality here in Nigeria, shey?smh.
I will no longer reply you again to avoid further uncouth response from you sir. Have a great weekend sir.