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| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 12:18am On May 15, 2021*. Modified: 12:33am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:Perhaps your reasoning is beclouded by hate.Hate for Jehovah's witnesses. ask your brother Janosky how he loves giving labels, tags and qualifiers every now and then . Out of the abundance of his heart he speaks You don't know where hatred start at all.You do not understand what i asked Janosky about or do you? The image below tells the remaining story Like your friend used to say me I no get sense. ![]() I have told you and i will still tell you again and again that excommunication is alien to Jehovah's Witnesses as far as we are concerned with respect to the disfellowship Excommunication is alien but the synonym is not alien abi? ![]() I am telling you what we use. When you see the image below you will tell me if you agree with Janosky that excommunication is synonym to disfellowshiped or not?
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| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by haddeylium(m): 12:24am On May 15, 2021 |
Many of us here don't have English as our primary language. It's just a language medium we're struggling to use in passing information. Mostimes, I don't correct people on some polysemic word used in the wrong context. The aim is understanding. They both parties should be Happy. Different religious settings use different word to follow Jesus's command. I agree with the other guy Discussion of these practices requires using the correct term for each religion's practice Disfellowshipping among Jehovah's Witnesses Excommunication among Catholics(Prevented from eating communion) Cherem within Judaism Meidung among Amish Disconnection among Scientologists Separation among Mennonites and so many more you can lift online. When you're discussing Jehovah's witnesses ways of discipling unrepentant sinners. Use ' Disfellowshiping please |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Janosky: 12:26am On May 15, 2021 |
PrincessGlow:I have clarified that comment. Based on my personal experience. Luke 21:20 -24 and Matthew 24:15-22 is about the Roman army invasion of Jerusalem. is Luke and Matthew saying exactly the same thing word for word ? |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 12:32am On May 15, 2021 |
haddeylium:Lol. That question did put you through a lot of thinking. You did missed the point which is not unexpected ![]() Jehovah’s Witnesses do not shun others. The contradictions continue. The others here mean? A. Those not members of your religious group? B. Members leaving your religious group through resignation or disassociation C. Members leaving your group as a result of "gross sin" We only disfellowship Jehovah’s Witnesses who repeatedly and unrepentantly engage in gross unchristian behavior. The sin the woman committed must be net unchristian behavior among the policies the religious organization you belong do not raise judicial committee for. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 12:35am On May 15, 2021 |
haddeylium:When you're discussing Jehovah's witnesses ways of discipling unrepentant sinners. Use Disfellowshiping please as it is equally synonymous to excommunication and to many more related to it and lifted online ![]() |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Janosky: 12:35am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:Achorladey proven he lacks SENSE. Bros, continue to WAIL & expose your mumu. Don't worry he go direct you to the book of Shinto ![]() Romans 15:4 & (compare 2 Timothy 3:16). "For EVERYTHING that was written in the past was written to TEACH US......" . |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 12:39am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:And you succeeded and indeed you completely avoided the illustration i gave regarding the three arms of government. Now i am getting to know you better. And until you include it, nothing you say here makes sense anymore. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 12:43am On May 15, 2021*. Modified: 1:15am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:Where did the organization you belong get the below from since you agree that apostasy is abadoning JESUS CHRIST 1. Persons who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.” Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock p.94 2. Apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of God, actually a rebellion against Jehovah God. Some apostates profess to know and serve God but reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible but reject Jehovah's organization.” Reasoning From the Scriptures p.34 |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 12:45am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:I don't need to see any illustration as it is of no relevance to the fact you say I don't understand what you posted earlier. I have returned back to bring it back and you decided this time not to go back into it. It tells me I got what you meant the first time. ![]() Is it synonymous or not? ![]() Now i am getting to know you better On a faceless forum like your friend Max use to say. Another ![]() And until you include it, nothing you say here makes sense anymore The get out clause just like the last time. Abi no be the same ospido ![]() |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Janosky: 12:53am On May 15, 2021 |
PrincessGlow:Madam, please stop typing GIBBERISH. Is Luke 21:20-24 & Matthew 24:15-22 is about the Roman army invasion of Jerusalem. Is Matthew and Luke giving the same word for word account of the same event? Madam, tell this forum the truth: Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4, is Luke and Matthew giving the same word for word account of the Lord's prayer? |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 1:00am On May 15, 2021 |
Janosky:You have shown us anyone observing or doing observation is into SPIRITISM earlier. The image below captures it as well . I don't need to wait for SHINTO ![]() Don't worry anything OBSERVE or OBSERVATION in the scripture is SPIRITISM...... (Janosky, 2021) as proven thru wiki or wherever your source came from.
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| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 1:03am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:The illustration is more important than your question. It is the illustration that brought out the salient points. Why did you avoid it? |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 1:08am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:And until you include it, nothing you say here makes sense anymore The above captures the kind of person you are definitely .The illustration is more important than your question. Is the word directorial synonymous to executive? When you respond I will know which one is more important. The illustration or the question? It is the illustration that brought out the salient points. Salient point that didn't change the intent of that post captured. Why did you avoid it I told you why earlier and have shown you why now ![]() |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 1:16am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:For you to have quoted from an old book Pay Attention to Yourselves...... actually have revealed to me beyond doubt that you're really an apostate. It also revealed to me that you had served as an elder but was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation because you were unrepentant. Therefore beginning from today, i cease to have any discussion with you because you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 1:40am On May 15, 2021 |
haddeylium:I had explained to that young man (PrincessGlow) that disfellowship is a loving arrangement and that it is not excommunication, a term he said is a synonym to the latter. I had explained to him exactly as you have. I also told him that we don't use the word excommunicate but rather disfellowship. But what surprises me is that he came here and used another term shunning. Something tells me that he is an apostate. Same with achorladey who is also quoting from the pages of "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to all the Flock" showing that he's a former elder who may have been disfellowshipped in the past because he was unrepentant. I have vowed never to discuss with him. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 2:23am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:For you to have quoted from an old book Pay Attention to Yourselves...... actually have revealed to me beyond doubt that you're really an apostate. Old book equates, old truth given to you by your religious leaders which prove that you don't know the meaning of apostate. Citing and quoting the old book equates apostasy . It sure fits as described.It also revealed to me that you had served as an elder but was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation because you were unrepentant. Revealed through OBSERVATION aka SPIRITISM I guess as confirmed by your Brother Jan . What revelation is, it all from what is cooked in your heart and typed here ![]() Therefore beginning from today, i cease to have any discussion with you because you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden Get out clause put in place . No be me place embargo on you when you are ready lift the restrictions place on yourself by yourself . You never know who that creature is. When you see apostate and apostasy you cannot identify it paapaa. Old books sef na apostate and apostasy. Shine your eyes |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 2:29am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:who may have been disfellowshipped in the past because he was unrepentant Emphasis on may equals SPECULATIONS I have vowed never to discuss with him. This one still dey vow. If you like swear ma your palaver. Go and ask Max the nairaland GB to remind you of his reminders placed on nairaland last year concerning those your organization see as apostate who will go up in smoke according to AM III. ![]() But what surprises me is that he came here and used another term shunning Something tells you PrincessGlow too is an apostate. Apostate and apostasy lo gba opo to bayii Brandishing it anyhow as you like. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:59am On May 15, 2021 |
You got it wrong again! ![]() Peter denied Jesus where only Jesus and Peter himself knew how, when and what led to it, so if Peter did not confess to his brothers only Jesus will be aware of it. But Judas's betrayal was open to everyone! ![]() Remember that Peter also denied his fellow believers when he was confused as to how to deal with racism, but when rebuked by Paul a person who never walked with their master Peter accepted the discipline showing that he realized that the bond in Christianity surpasses that of race. SHUNNING is scriptural ma, there is no way you can change it because it's clear from what we read in the Bible. What i expected from you is to ask how does it benefit the Christian congregation back then, your continuous argument against shunning only shows that you're following the tradition cooked up from human emotions not Christianity. Both Paul, John and Jesus himself supported shunning of unrepentant wrongdoers! ![]() PrincessGlow: |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On May 15, 2021 |
My brother, when dealing with ourselves we know our terms but when dealing with critics who are bent on calling good evil and evil good there is no need to be worried about terms. So far we know the benefits of practical application of God's word whatever the critic say shouldn't bother us because they'll always find faults with the truth. Note how many times the lady (PrincessGlow) tried to shift the goal post from one accusation to another, but when it comes to disfellowshiping which herself and her Apostate friend feel like brandishing she discovered that all JWs agreed that it's our practice against unrepentant wrongdoers as God's word ordered us to do. Now what have they got to say against God's word? Please listen to what they're saying in an undertone "we know that you people are practicing what is written in the Bible but why can't you see that the Bible is wrong on this?" So they're not ready to obey God's word rather what they want is for each and everyone to pick what suits him/her then there will be nothing like unism in thought and standard, since everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Jehovah's Witnesses are like a thorn in the flesh of rebellious humans, they can all see the light as each JW is exerting himself/herself to live up to a standard that totally differs from human reasoning. I learned a lot in the military, there we can use different terms for just one act, but when you begin to expatiate on each of the terms you'll find out that the purpose of such injunction would become meaningless. That's why we always say in the army "OBEY THE LAST ORDER" so no matter what happens you'll stand on the fact that you were ordered not what you thought is right. No wonder JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES behaves like the military for real YES you people are the harmless soldiers of Christ! ![]() ospido: |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 6:48am On May 15, 2021 |
Janosky:And according to ospido, achorladey is an apostate to the core ![]() Out of the abundance of their hearts their mouth speaks. What does it states and type.... Snake man,apostate and GIBBERISH (ask Janosky)
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| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 6:55am On May 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:My brother, when dealing with ourselves we know our terms but when dealing with critics who are bent on calling good evil and evil good there is no need to be worried about terms That's why the contradictions keep raining in e.g Excommunication is not synonymous with disfellowshiped Or excommunication is synonymous with disfellowship They are all propaganda become our brothers are imperfect like others Or they are propaganda and our brothers are maligned, misrepresented or lied against[/b]or were just [b]mere allegations. Sure you do know your terms. Awon one line of thought people. I learned a lot in the military, there we can use different terms for just one act to the different terms to some it is alien. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 7:57am On May 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Rightly said. They have derailed the thread (Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His) and began to discuss non relevant issues, name calling, outright attacks on God's chosen people. Yet they can't mention what religious group they belong to. Even Jesus was attacked frontally and some even told him he has a demon. If that could happened to Christ, then who are we. E dey pain them say they were disfellowshipped. That's how Judas ended up and some came up with the "book of Judas". Who inspired him? If they change their ways, they can return to Jehovah. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Janosky: 8:12am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:Worthy of note: Rozz said Achorladey is a "snake man". She no be Jehovah's Witness, but she saw that deceptive serpentine trait in him long time ago. She no lie. ![]() |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 8:27am On May 15, 2021 |
Janosky:Worthy of note is when the teachings and publications of the organization you belong don't sit well with the scriptures are cited and quoted it becomes DECEPTION or called OLD BOOKS I remember stating the below..... You never know the set of people you have been conversing with so far. See how they have tagged everything into MALIGN, MISINFORMATION, DISCREDIT, LIES e.t.c about the religious organization they belong. Even when you show them right in their own publications how it is, they will still say it is HALF TRURH, MISINFORMATION, MALIGN, LIES. New one added OLD BOOKS ![]() What was the response the next minutes that followed Achorladey you are a wicked man ....... JanoskyAfter all citing and quoting old books your organization publish and print equates one being called APOSTATES ....... ospido |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57am On May 15, 2021 |
I've been dealing with Apostates long before i dedicated my life to Jehovah so i know them inside out! One fact about them is they always find faults with God's word but just like their forerunners the first century Pharisees, instead of attacking God's word they will claim they're for God then in disguise attack those keeping God's word! ![]() So the one and only way to make them go crazy is by throwing Peter's question at them Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life" John 6:68 Let's imagine how those leaving Jesus will respond if Peter's question is directed at them, of course they will say they're still worshiping the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but not with this man anymore! Is that not what Apostates are saying? "we are for Christ not any organization" Meaning anyone can worship God in Jesus name, there's no need to join any organized group and start keeping the same line of thought with them! Exactly the opposite of what Jesus prayed for! John 17:20-23 ![]() ospido: |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07am On May 15, 2021*. Modified: 10:18am On May 15, 2021 |
Something really baffles me about that young lady, do you know i met her on a thread and after dropping two comments she began trailing me and asking several questions but i was totally beaten when she kept responding positively despite the way i was responding with hostility! ![]() Finally this young woman made me her (SD) meaning Sugar Daddy on a faceless social media! ![]() Why? Because her heart was pure, then the apostate came trying to discredit God's people, instantly the young lady recognized the spirit in him and labelled him "the snake man" this is the same lady to whom i was so hostile o! So if a none witness like Rozz could IDENTIFY the spirit in him then there's no need worrying oneself over his case! ![]() Janosky: |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by achorladey: 9:16am On May 15, 2021 |
ospido:Janosky ......... achorladey is a wicked man Janosky........... achorladey is enemy of the gospel of Jesus Christ Janosky........... according to Rozz, achorladey is a snake man aka like the creature that deceived Eve Janosky ......... Achorladey has the deceptive serpentine spirIt. Ospido........you are an APOSTATE to the core Ospido........for citing old books of the organization you belong achorladey you are an APOSTATE ospido........ achorladey you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden.. TATIME............ achorladey is demon possessed MaxInDHouse.......... achorladey is mad MaxInDHouse......... achorladey is beast of no nation MaxInDHouse........ achorladey is stupid But the moment you say JWs are CULTISTS or exhibit cult like traits it becomes they say Jesus has a demon too and start making numerous comparison with themselves and Jesus to prove or show that they are followers of Christ. ![]() What should I do then with all the above they attached to me without request? ![]() Awon the only true religion people |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by Janosky: 9:38am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:Na only JW thread dey make you high, we know the source of your addiction. Please continue. ![]() |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 10:18am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:Return to Jehovah while there's still time. |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19am On May 15, 2021 |
The words of Rozz is a testimony that the guy is totally lost! ![]() ospido: |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 10:26am On May 15, 2021 |
achorladey:Repent and return to Jehovah |
| Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by ospido: 10:28am On May 15, 2021 |
Janosky:You see that? A non witness was able to identify him. Let him repent and return to Jehovah and Jehovah will take him in. |
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