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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by bercarray(m): 2:12pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20 what would you advise someone to go for between software engineering and data science. Because, i saw in a post where u said data science has few available jobs for them in Nigeria
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 2:14pm On May 24, 2021
bercarray:
tensazangetsu20 what would you advise someone to go for between software engineering and data science. Because, i saw in a post where u said data science has few available jobs for them in Nigeria
Web development if you want to earn fast. Data science is still a very new and upcoming field. Plus it's very easy to transition from web development to data science if you later want to. Even the data science thread the guy was a web developer for a year before he delved into data science.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by bercarray(m): 2:23pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Web development if you want to earn fast. Data science is still a very new and upcoming field. Plus it's very easy to transition from web development to data science if you later want to. Even the data science thread the guy was a web developer for a year before he delved into data science.
ok boss thanks
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by holuwharsheun4: 3:59pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Web development if you want to earn fast. Data science is still a very new and upcoming field. Plus it's very easy to transition from web development to data science if you later want to. Even the data science thread the guy was a web developer for a year before he delved into data science.

Good afternoon boss, I am an aspiring web developer.
For a beginner with no prior knowledge of programming what pathway do you think I should follow.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 4:10pm On May 24, 2021
holuwharsheun4:


Good afternoon boss, I am an aspiring web developer.
For a beginner with no prior knowledge of programming what pathway do you think I should follow.
https://www.nairaland.com/6306692/how-recommend-newbie-goes-learning

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by spartan117(m): 6:57pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

It's very hard to get a job as an engineer if you dont have solid connections. If you are still in school, start learning coding now and take it very seriously. I used to spend my time watching movies in school. If I knew about coding then, I would be a senior developer now.
Kai this has been my thought since I started coding. But no wahala we will get there.

Great article!
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:07pm On May 24, 2021
spartan117:

Kai this has been my thought since I started coding. But no wahala we will get there.

Great article!
Bros it's not paradise o but it's hands down the best thing anyone in Nigeria can do for themselves especially with the situation of the country. The only barrier is in getting a laptop.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by spartan117(m): 7:07pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

It seems you are a pythonista. Anyway it's just my experience. Everyone will eventually make their own choice las las na.
Some of the data science guys that finished from my bootcamp are struggling to learn JavaScript and move into web development full-time, while others only managed to secure data entry jobs.

Only a few got actual data science Jobs.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:08pm On May 24, 2021
spartan117:

Some of the data science guys that finished from my bootcamp are struggling to learn JavaScript and move into web development full-time, while others only managed to secure data entry jobs.

Only a few got actual data science Jobs.
My own friend started learning data science in 2019. That was a year before I learnt coding. I have switched like 3 jobs now and he's yet to get the first data science one. I have told him to abandon that crap he said AI is the future. Future my ass. Person no go chop for present.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by spartan117(m): 7:12pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Bros it's not paradise o but it's hands down the best thing anyone in Nigeria can do for themselves especially with the situation of the country. The only barrier is in getting a laptop.
Yeah that's true once you can conquer the "Nigerian factors" i.e high cost of getting a laptop, poor power supply and slow and expensive internet, you are already one step closer.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by spartan117(m): 7:13pm On May 24, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

My own friend started learning data science in 2019. That was a year before I learnt coding. I have switched like 3 jobs now and he's yet to get the first data science one. I have told him to abandon that crap he said AI is the future. Future my ass. Person no go chop for present.
grin grin

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 9:22am On May 25, 2021
spartan117:

Some of the data science guys that finished from my bootcamp are struggling to learn JavaScript and move into web development full-time, while others only managed to secure data entry jobs.

Only a few got actual data science Jobs.
For many who learnt data science, the problem is that they want to get into machine learning and A.I very fast. Meanwhile, 70% of machine learning is about Data tweaking/featuring. It is better people focus on data analysis or begin with data analyst jobs. There are so many opportunities for data analysts and the trend is comparable to software development.
Learning Power BI or Tableau, Excel, and SQL are the first steps in the Data Industry, then the icing on the cake is Python and R.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Nobody: 4:28pm On May 25, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
Of recent, whenever people try to learn web development, I see comments desisting the person and telling them the field is over saturated and they should try things like data science and machine learning.

A lot of sillicon valley startups are removing location based pay. So if you in Nigeria manage to get job with them you will be earning the same thing with your counterparts there. Imagine earning 150k USD a year in one village in osun state.

Please web development is not saturated at all. That is a lie.

Nice post but do you think the pay is realistic? Today any company that can pay you 80k and above can sponsor you to the US. While it good to be optimistic, that's not an amount you easily earn remotely.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 4:31pm On May 25, 2021
Studymore123:


Nice post but do you think the pay is realistic? Today any company that can pay you 80k and above can sponsor you to the US. While it good to be optimistic, that's not an amount you easily earn remotely.
Yes it realistic o but such jobs are not easy to get. Erhm sponsorship to the USA is more or less a lottery thing since the H1B visa has a cap on it. What American companies do now is to sponsor Nigerians or others to their European offices then they work a few years then from there they do an L1 transfer to the US. A lot of these jobs exist but they arent easy to get not because of competition but skillsets which are just starting to acquire. Indians have been enjoying this for ages.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by MrJavaS: 12:55pm On May 26, 2021
@tensazangetsu20 you are right in some ways though.
However I think anyone can bypass the negative effects of saturation of any field of IT by being very very good. Being exceptionally talented as a programmer gives one a good edge in any niche regardless of saturation.

But attaining mastery in anything doesn't come easy. Mastering JavaScript alone is a task that demands a lot of effort. One has to build a lot of projects and read a lot of people's code. Practice makes perfect.

Programming is not for the faint hearted

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by genaro2000(m): 2:55pm On May 27, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

As in eh. I remember when I was going to school for marine engineering. They said it's this it's that. It took me a year to get one interview and the job was to work for free for 5 years to get pay. Most of my guys I graduated with no work o. Even if you want to apply to jobs there's no jobs to apply to. At least with programming I go wake up everyday enter linkedin and I fit submit like 40 CVS undecided

Please Can I get your WhatsApp contact , I already sent you a mail
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by LordFriar: 6:34am On May 28, 2021
Tensazangetsu20 ..

Hello. What resources do you personally recommend for learning WordPress?
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 6:35am On May 28, 2021
LordFriar:
Tensazangetsu20 ..

Hello. What resources do you personally recommend for learning WordPress?
The wordpress codex at wordpress.org is the best place to learn wordpress developmemt.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by LordFriar: 10:03pm On May 28, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

The wordpress codex at wordpress.org is the best place to learn wordpress developmemt.

Thank you.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Fuckjesusandgod: 10:16am On Jun 04, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

My own friend started learning data science in 2019. That was a year before I learnt coding. I have switched like 3 jobs now and he's yet to get the first data science one. I have told him to abandon that crap he said AI is the future. Future my ass. Person no go chop for present.

Hi bro,
Please which IT training center can you recommend in Lagos for me to learn full stack web development.
Thanks in advance.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 2:24pm On Jun 04, 2021
Fuckjesusandgod:


Hi bro,
Please which IT training center can you recommend in Lagos for me to learn full stack web development.
Thanks in advance.
Na udemy I use o. I can't recommend anywhere.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by Fuckjesusandgod: 3:16pm On Jun 04, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

Na udemy I use o. I can't recommend anywhere.

Hmm, thanks
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by seunny4lif(m): 1:26am On Jun 06, 2021
Data scientists no easy oooh
My school get am and na really pain in the ass unless you know much maths
tensazangetsu20:

Web development if you want to earn fast. Data science is still a very new and upcoming field. Plus it's very easy to transition from web development to data science if you later want to. Even the data science thread the guy was a web developer for a year before he delved into data science.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by seunny4lif(m): 1:30am On Jun 06, 2021
Here too you need at least MSc to be able to get a Job as a data scientist even if you study Data Science as an undergraduate course
My sch
tensazangetsu20:

My own friend started learning data science in 2019. That was a year before I learnt coding. I have switched like 3 jobs now and he's yet to get the first data science one. I have told him to abandon that crap he said AI is the future. Future my ass. Person no go chop for present.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:08am On Jun 06, 2021
seunny4lif:
Here too you need at least MSc to be able to get a Job as a data scientist even if you study Data Science as an undergraduate course
My sch
This is what I tell people. Most data science jobs require a masters or at least PhD In computer science. They will be crying. Web development is still the best track for anyone that doesn't know code.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by seunny4lif(m): 7:18am On Jun 06, 2021
Anything apart from Data science is easy to enter in the world of IT
Are you a web developer?

r
tensazangetsu20:

This is what I tell people. Most data science jobs require a masters or at least PhD In computer science. They will be crying. Web development is still the best track for anyone that doesn't know code.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:19am On Jun 06, 2021
seunny4lif:
Anything apart from Data science is easy to enter in the world of IT
Are you a web developer?

r
Yeah. I heard cyber security is also difficult to get into.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by seunny4lif(m): 7:22am On Jun 06, 2021
Maybe in Nigeria but over here cyber security na hot cake if you study the course
tensazangetsu20:

Yeah. I heard cyber security is also difficult to get into.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by tensazangetsu20(m): 7:29am On Jun 06, 2021
seunny4lif:
Maybe in Nigeria but over here cyber security na hot cake if you study the course
Maybe sha. Most cyber security positions I see in Nigeria always ask for certifications and those certifications ain't cheap at all.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by seunny4lif(m): 7:31am On Jun 06, 2021
Yes here too
You need certificate in cyber security here oooh.
I’m a CS student and it’s not easy grin
Family and studying na the hardest thing be that
tensazangetsu20:

Maybe sha. Most cyber security positions I see in Nigeria always ask for certifications and those certifications ain't cheap at all.
Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by GeneralDae: 9:55am On Jun 06, 2021
tensazangetsu20:

This is what I tell people. Most data science jobs require a masters or at least PhD In computer science. They will be crying. Web development is still the best track for anyone that doesn't know code.
What people should target for entry level is Data analysis (SQL, PowerBI/Tableau, Excel).
After all these, it becomes easier to get into Data Engineering at least as one goes further learning either Python or R.

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Re: The Myth Of Saturation With Regards To Web Development. by noob03saibot(m): 3:15pm On Jun 16, 2021
Citygal:


Thank you, but why? @the bolded, please I want to know if it isn’t going to be so useful let me switch to something better I’m still at the beginning stage.

it's very true what the op said about "Ds and ML" having few jobs in Nigeria. If I were you ,I would listen to him. Nigeria isn't ready for it yet. What's paining me the most is the whole time I put into learning it. Spent months upon months on it only to find it hard in getting job openings for it here. The few I got didn't take me seriously because of lack of certification. So now I am switching over, after much thought over desktops or web dev, today I begin my journey into the world of web. Choose wisely.

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