SharonLoveth:


You're an author of CONFUSION, were you sleeping when typing? You said We can't see angels not until I shown you how Muhammad had a physical contact with Angel Jibril before readjusting your initial claims.

On Mary, how many times am I going to answer that? Or you're using this tactics to avoid answering my questions?

SharonLoveth:


You're an author of CONFUSION, were you sleeping when typing? You said We can't see angels not until I shown you how Muhammad had a physical contact with Angel Jibril before readjusting your initial claims.

On Mary, how many times am I going to answer that? Or you're using this tactics to avoid answering my questions?

Empiree:
this is your belief and you are entitled to it. I tried to open your mind to see flaw in your RELIGIOUS texts.



what I dislike most about you is talk without reference. Even though I know your references sometimes I chose to ignore. Reason you can't quote in most cases is because most of you guys heard these things from pastors without knowing details.



you don start again?. In what context Bible talks about sitting besides God?. Isn't after his alleged ascension



refer to your Bible in the story of crucifixion.



this referred to who and what are you trying to prove?. I don't want to be too forward on this. Your reply to this specific verse will determine my response.



oh I see. Psalms 110:1 refer to Jesus, abi?. Your problem is translation. You need to revisit original Hebrew text for proper understanding. The person addressed in Psalm 110:1 (Jews believe he's David, Christians believe he's Jesus) was never actually called "God". He was called "Adoni", which is a term given to human kings for honor and respect (my Lord, my king, etc...).


Notice the liars of the English translators from the polytheist trinitarian pagans say "The LORD said to my Lord...." to create the impression that "LORD" is used for both GOD and Jesus equally in a sense that the two are the same in one; that Jesus is equal to GOD and he is GOD! May they burn in Hell for Eternity for all of the lies they invented against GOD Almighty. Ameen! Their deliberate choice in using "lord" twice as opposed to using the more proper translation such as "GOD said to my master"......



what was he if he was more than a man?. Is Jesus God?. Yes or No?




lol ba tan. You ended up with my submission. Now, are you ready to learn about throne from islamic perceptive?





even better. So you didn't see footprint of Paul in all of these?.



gbagaun you swim in your own confusion. You guys need to come to Muslims to teach you Bible. You don't know anything but you think you do. With your eyes wide open you don't see your confusion and contradiction?. I don't blame you actually. Jesus himself caused the problems for you guys because, his message was only for the lost sheep of Israel. But as for the gentiles, he spoke to them in parables so that they would not understand. The reason is Jesus doesn't want you to be forgiven that's why he didn't communicate in plain language to the gentiles. He knew that if you understood his message you will turn away from worshipping him and calling him God, son of God, spirit and all that types of rubbish he didn't call himself and sick for forgiveness. But he didn't want you to be forgiven. Jesus himself said that you will see the texts but you will never understand it even if it is explained to you by muslims only few of you will understand how true message.

Read Matthew 13 from verse 10


10. His disciples came and asked him, “Why do you use parables when you talk to the people?


11. He replied, "Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them

You can see verse 11, the gentiles like you can not understand. But he spoke clearly to the Israelites.

13. This is why I speak to them in parables: ‘Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand

Read further and you realized that your heart had been sealed centuries ago. It is a curse on every Christian by Jesus. You will read texts of the bible but you will never understand. Read 15.

Read verse 16 he's talking to his desciples because those are the people he was sent not you. You are just wasting your time.


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don't jump the gun. Animal sacrifice was later option. First option was human sacrifice to test Abraham's faith. Then replaced with animal till today. Now Christian brought back human sacrifice by claiming blood of innocent man must be shed to redeem them. How absurd this is.



this is fabrication and scam of all time.
The 6th commandment of “Do Not Murder” is clear and its consequences are elaborated in Genesis 9:6; “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed. Hebrews 5:7-8 even gives clear picture that Jesus didn't want to die. He sobbed and scared.


"During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered"


Now, why would Jesus die for your sin when your Bible said this?. Ezekiel 18:20


The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.


See also Deuteronomy 24:16, 2 CHRONICLES 25:4



perfect man you said . A "perfect man" that went to steal on a farm that didn't belong to him, Matthew 12:1 Jesu ati awon emewa re lo si oko oloko lo ji agbado alagbado



Isn't obvious you don't read your Bible?. Many times Paul confessed to lying or caught lying


"For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" (Rom. 3.7)

This is where christians learned evangelism by lie.


"Though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. But be it so: ... nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with deceit." (2 Cor. 12.15-16)



As a "man that strive for the mastery" (1 Cor. 9.25), Paul expounds to the church leaders the modus operandi of the successful propagandist:

"I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, that I might gain them that are without law. ... I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel's sake" (1 Cor. 9.19-23).



And he admits to the church of Corinth: "I robbed other churches ... to do you service" (2 Cor. 11.. What did the church tell you to secure your commitment to Christianity? Was your preacher, minister or priest like Paul?. Examples exhibited by Paul is exactly what many pastors and Christians do today especially in NIGERIA.




Paul never met Jesus. Open your eyes. Paul was a scammer. He changed everything Jesus stood for.



Therefore let us leave principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Hebrews 6:1


This is clear enough that what Christians believe it's Paul teachings not Jesus. Paul taught "blood of Jesus", trinity, divinity of Jesus, sonship etc




enough said above



see you there. You recognized fact I'm telling you and still confused yourself?. God didn't want it human blood sacrifice. This is Paul's pagan teaching.

Empiree:
whether you answered my questions or not, this is what your problem is. Until you can unravel this confusion in christiandom, Bible will continue to be under microscope.
Chat me up on WhatsApp. Let's chat there. Bring this ur questionns there.. 08167623573








We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5

Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1

If you are confused

Who is god?, Jesus

Is Jesus the son of Mary?, Yes

Who created Mary?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus

Jesus is the begotten son., Yes

Who is his father?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Jesus is a servant of God?, Yes

Who is God?, Jesus.

Jesus died on the cross?Yes

Who resurrected him?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus

Jesus is a messenger?, Yes

Who sent him?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Did Jesus worship while on earth?, Yes

Whom did he worship?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Did God have a beginning?, No

Then who was born on 25 DEC?, Jesus.

Who is God?, Jesus

Where's God?, In heaven

How many are there in heaven?, Only one God.

Where's Jesus?, He is sitted on the right hand of his father.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Then how many are they in heaven?, Only one God

Then how many seats?, One

Where's Jesus?, Seated next to God.

Then how are they seated?, On one chair

Its only understood by those with the holy spirit.

Who is God? Jesus.

Ha haha what a confusion.

So beautiful to be a Muslim.

Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray



ifiokjohn

ifiokjohn:
We see in Daniel 7:3 we see he said in his vision he saw one like the son of man coming he approached the ancient of days( God) and was led to his presence where all power and dominiom was given to him forever.. his kingdom will have no end..
You see...I have just given you another passage from the old testament Bible talking about Jesus..

Abi you go talk Say this one na fraud too.

I don't know what you mean by Hebrew writers was a fraud. He never told you Jesus was equal to God. From that passage you can even see who is Greater Jehovah. For him to tell Jesus to sit on his right.

And yes Jesus is the son of God. He is God yes but not equal with Jehovah. God almighty. That's why we call Jesus the mighty God and Jehovah almighty..

ThatFairGuy1:
Advocatejare asked so many questions from me I answered, when it was my turn to ask him JUST one, he refused and keep giving flimsy excuses.

Lemme ask you different question from that as I wanted him Only to answer my question.

Which of these Bible verses is correct and which is wrong.

1. Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

2. Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

Sharonloveth, you shouldn't be for only insult Everytime, bail this man out. Which is correct

advocatejare:

Provide proof


Antiislam, let him deal with these:

Is it possible to have a son without a consort?
Yes:
"She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed."
Qur'an 19:20-21


No:
"To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things."
Quran 6:101



Does Allah speak directly with people?
No:
It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil,
Quran 42:51

Yes, to Moses:
"Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Moses Allah spoke direct"
Quran 4:164


How long is Allah's day?
One thousand years:
"Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning."
Quran 22:47


Fifty thousand years:
"The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:"
Quran 70:4

ThatFairGuy1:
This is why I hate you, you're a Hypocrite. I've answered this MANY TIMES. Even from your different quotes, whoever is sensible would understand that the question is already answered from it.

Why are you always afraid of answering my questions but chose to always beat around the bush. You're also confused, it's obvious

Empiree:
but Jesus himself is dead according to your literature. He was nailed on the cross.. So what's blasphemy here?

Empiree:
see another fraud. This is talking about Jesus?. Jesus story is NT Wetin concerned Daniel and Jesus .

The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Jesus at all. I haven't seen any biblical exegesis that related this with Jesus. You are so funny. Okay let's assume it is talking about Jesus. This is the verse


After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

It is talking about some demons in succession. So Jesus was part of the demon, I guess.



Yes. In all the 10 commentaries I read about this verse only one tried to relate it with "blood of Jesus". It doesn't take PhD to realize this attempt was fraudulent



So who are we to believe now?. You and SharonLoveth are trying to prove Jesus is equal to God. One of you even said he's God. Now you are contradicting yourself. You guys are confusionists. You are not confident in your doctrine. Maybe you need to read yourself and SharonLoveth's posts and you get to see that you guys are claiming Jesus is God or equal to God. That's why I asked clear cut question but none of you answered.




See again here you said again Jesus is God . God forbid 8 can never be Christian. See confusion. Okay let's do it this way.

Who is Jehovah?

Who is Yahweh?

Who is God?

Who is Jesus?

Are these 4 entities same person or 4 different beings?

ifiokjohn:
Bros can we talk about this on WhatsApp? Nairaland is tiring. It not easy for me to divide your replies and give mine. Whatsapp will be more easier for me.
Add me up on 08167623573 or send me ur digits let me do this adding.

By the way Daniel 7:13-14 was talking about Christ.
He said everything Dominion was given to the person forever.
It said one like the son of Man... ( Who is acknowledged as such if not Jesus)
And there is no how God will give a beast Dominion forever and ever and all nations will bow to him and his kingdom will have no end... Even the devil was given a limited no of time on Earth ...so how come God will give a beast forever?

Read that portion well abeg...

advocatejare:

Didn't you read in the same literature that he was buried the same day after his body had been well prepared and he resurrected the third day and He's alive forever.

But your own literature said Muhammad died after years of agony from the poison he ate at Khaibar, he had his aorta cut and died while on the chest of Aisha with the two of them exchanging saliva.

Muhammad's dead body was left unattended to for 3 days and he wasn't offered a bathe as stipulated in your tradition. He died filthy and was buried filthy and remained rotten in the grave.

Thatfair.guy1 also knows this

ifiokjohn:
Bros can we talk about this on WhatsApp no more. Nairaland is tiring. It not easy for me to divide your replies and give mine. What's app will be more easier for me.
Add me up on 08167623573 or send me ur digits let me do this adding.

By the way Daniel 7:13-14 was talking about Christ.
He said everything Dominion was given to the person forever.
It said one like the son of Man... ( Who is acknowledged as such if not Jesus)
And there is no how God will give a beast Dominion forever and ever and all nations will bow to him and his kingdom will have no end... Even the devil was given a limited no of time on Earth ...so how come God will give a beast forever?

Read that portion well abeg...

Empiree:
Iwo o si sinu aye jare. You have expired

advocatejare:

It's you and your rotten dead prophet that is expired.

I'm alive and will continue to be, my Jesus is alive. I follow the one who can give life. You follow the one who can only offer you death and calamities. But it's not too late for you. Stop following the best of the deceivers, Al-makireena

ifiokjohn:
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Empiree:
lol I respect that. You already feel the heat .

Well if they add you you have option to opt out but before you do so let them know your preference

Empiree:
lol I respect that. You already feel the heat .

Well if they add you you have option to opt out but before you do so let them know your preference

Empiree:
lol I respect that. You already feel the heat .

Well if they add you you have option to opt out but before you do so let them know your preference

ifiokjohn:
feel which heat? Seriously?
I'm just not Someone that do group chat. I don't even participate in my department own except once awhile.

ifiokjohn:
You can add me up to the group no worries. But also do chat me up too.
This battle is between me and you

Empiree:
I don't either. I simply watch and learn. But I'm sure they will test you apart. I sent just Daniel 7 you quoted and they already start bombarding with replies. They will test you sissy and you will realize you know nothing of the bible.

Let just send some

This is just tip of iceberg

ifiokjohn:
ok den do add me.
Got some questions of my own.
If that isn't Jesus being referred to then..in the Daniel 7:13-14 then who else was been referred too?
Whose kingdom will be eternal without coming to an end.

Empiree:
don't worry. You will meet Muslim scholars of the bible there . They are young guys

Empiree:
I will urge them to add you

ifiokjohn:
Ok. But before they do. We don't you and I continue our own in the WhatsApp.
Chat me up na or send ur whatsapp msge

Empiree:
dialogue with your fellow Christians have been doing did without anyone insult another. Your comment is the very reason I don't like to dialogue with you because you have no sense. Your fellow Christians have been respective. You and other clown don't deserve my attention

Empiree:
see another fraud. This is talking about Jesus?. Jesus story is NT Wetin concerned Daniel and Jesus .

The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Jesus at all. I haven't seen any biblical exegesis that related this with Jesus. You are so funny. Okay let's assume it is talking about Jesus. This is the verse


After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

It is talking about some demons in succession. So Jesus was part of the demon, I guess.



Yes. In all the 10 commentaries I read about this verse only one tried to relate it with "blood of Jesus". It doesn't take PhD to realize this attempt was fraudulent



So who are we to believe now?. You and SharonLoveth are trying to prove Jesus is equal to God. One of you even said he's God. Now you are contradicting yourself. You guys are confusionists. You are not confident in your doctrine. Maybe you need to read yourself and SharonLoveth's posts and you get to see that you guys are claiming Jesus is God or equal to God. That's why I asked clear cut question but none of you answered.




See again here you said again Jesus is God . God forbid 8 can never be Christian. See confusion. Okay let's do it this way.

Who is Jehovah?

Who is Yahweh?

Who is God?

Who is Jesus?

Are these 4 entities same person or 4 different beings?

advocatejare:

You started stupidity and you were given a dose of your pills and you're here crying.

Next time, don't start what u cant finish because I'll give you fire for fire.