livingchrist:
good this people use double standard as long as it suite them.


Cc maximus going by your logic when Jesus said only the father knows the day and time of his coming, it does not mean the father alone

Bros, do you have prove that Matthew 24:36 is not true?

Let's see it, Oga proceed.

Myer:


Long time no see/hear.
I think on this issue neither party is wrong.
Which brings us back to the issue of biblical contradictions yet again.

-The Trinitarian is not wrong as some bible verses confirm this. John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16, Isaiah 9:6

-Also the one who separates God the Father from Jesus Chist is neither wrong. As supporting verses abound even more in the bible.

Bros, 1 John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16 are Trinitarian forgeries. Please find out.

Did Isaiah 9:6 tell you God was born on earth?

Janosky:


Bros, 1 John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16 are Trinitarian forgeries. Please find out.

Did Isaiah 9:6 tell you God was born on earth?

Do explain 1 Timothy 3:16 from your understanding.

"Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory."

hupernikao:
@Janosky
@MaxInDHouse

Its obvious you didn't get the key element of what livingchrist stated in his topic. This has made you go into wrong conclusion.

[b]His Topic
Is JESUS the same Person as the FATHER

he isn't questioning this
Is JESUS The same person as GOD
[/b]
That little details is where you have been missing the point of the concept.

I have told you severally, that the moment one say Jesus, you are refering to a man born of a woman. This is God in the flesh, now exist as man.

This was clear in his writeup.

hupernikao:

Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by hupernikao: 10:20pm On Jun 14


" *2
Thus he isn't an angel or any other being existing somewhere before.

*3
The OT testified about me. Simply put, the God you see in OT is that Jesus, the man you see in the flesh. Why is this hard for you to understand.

The whole of OT testified about God, that is who we see as the son in the flesh, Jesus. That is the concept that you are struggling with.



I guess the new age concept of explaining trinity flying all around has affected your own knowledge and patience of studying the concept. I have done a proper context of the concept for you earlier. Go reread.

Hupernikao says God and Jesus is the same person.

I asked him earlier: is God praying to himself?
The bros dodge the question.

Confused bunch typing GIBBERISH

livingchrist:
1.John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

In this verse Jesus said he is not alone but he and his father are together.
Meaning Jesus is not the father.

2. John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Note the words "we" and "our" meaning is a pronoun of more than one person.

3. Psalms 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels said he at any times, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Note Jesus is sitting on the right hand of someone else "the father"

Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Stephen saw Jesus sitting at God's right hand.

6. Jesus said the father is 'another'
John 5:32
There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

7. The father is greater than Jesus

John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

8. Jesus derived his authority from God the father.
John 5:27
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

John 17:2
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

9. At the end of everything Jesus would be made subject unto the father.

1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Jesus the Word/Son is NOT the Father
Jesus the Word/Son is NOT the Holy Spirit

The Father is God
The Word (Son) is God
The Holy Spirit is God

The Father, Word and the Holy Spirit are three IDENTITIES of the only unitary God!

shadeyinka:

Jesus the Word/Son is NOT the Father
Jesus the Word/Son is NOT the Holy Spirit

The Father is God
The Word (Son) is God
The Holy Spirit is God

The Father, Word and the Holy Spirit are three IDENTITIES of the only unitary God!

John 17:3 & John 20:17, did Jesus Christ reject your claim?

Janosky:


John 17:3 & John 20:17, did Jesus Christ reject your claim?

Heb 1:8-9:
" But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows."

Col 1:15-17:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. "

John 1:1-2:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."

Only the wise can understand the paradox of the nature of God!

Myer:


Do explain 1 Timothy 3:16 from your understanding.

"Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory."

1 Timothy 3:16 there is nothing there about Trinity.

1 Timothy 3:16 , Romans 8:3 & John 17:4-5,24, God sent His Son to the earth for redemption of man.
After his earthly ministry , Jesus returned to his God and Father.
His Father gave the glory back to Jesus which He had given Jesus before creation of the universe.
Shikena

Janosky:


1 Timothy 3:16 there is nothing there about Trinity.

1 Timothy 3:16 , Romans 8:3 & John 17:4-5,24, God sent His Son to the earth for redemption of man.
After his earthly ministry , Jesus returned to his God and Father.
His Father gave the glory back to Jesus which He had given Jesus before creation of the universe.
Shikena

Why is it called a mystery then if it's that simple?

The preceding verse was referring to God. Hence the "He" was likewise referring to God.

God became flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, seen by Angels, preached among nations and taken up in glory.

That is why it is called the great mystery. Because it astounds the human thought and everything other religions ever taught.

shadeyinka:



Heb 1:8-9:
" But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows."

Col 1:15-17:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. "

John 1:1-2:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."

Only the wise can understand the paradox of the nature of God!

There's nothing in these trio of scriptures to prove your claim.
If you are truly wise, why would your God Jesus in heaven be anointed by his God, @Hebrews 1:9?

Psalms - Chapter 45
Catholic Online Bible
6 Your throne is from God, for ever and ever, the sceptre of your kingship a sceptre of justice" Psalms 45:6-7 is the original copy of Hebrews 1:8-9.
Bros,is the photocopy more accurate than it's original ?
Psalms 45:6-7 , Catholic Jerusalem Bible (Trinity front-runners) and Masoretic Texts proven the DUBIOUS quote of Hebrews 1:8.
Bros, Are you willing to consider the evidence?



Colossians 1:15, you say did Jesus created everything, the question: did Jesus create his Father?
Bros, you know the obvious answer.
How come Jesus is the first born of every creature?
Is the first born of every son ,a son ?
Bros, you know that answer is Yes, of course!


Bros, what is the meaning of "creature" @ Colossians 1:15-17 KJV ?

Therefore, Jesus the first born of every creature is a creature of his God & Father.
John 20:17 & 8:38 , Jesus Christ is spot on !

Are you willing to consider the Jesus evidence?

Myer:


Why is it called a mystery then if it's that simple?

The preceding verse was referring to God. Hence the "He" was likewise referring to God.

God became flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, seen by Angels, preached among nations and taken up in glory.

That is why it is called the great mystery. Because it astounds the human thought and everything other religions ever taught.

Bros,
The Bible manuscript says "He", you change "he" to something else.
The first time you quote 1 Timothy 3:16, Bros, na "he" not God.
Did the preceding verses say God is Jesus Christ?

It was a mystery to inspired Bible writers in the old testament.

But revealed to Prophet Isaiah ( confirm Matthew 12:15-20. )
Bros ,@ Matthew 12:15-20, did Jesus , Isaiah & Paul refute your claim on 1 Timothy 3:16?

shadeyinka:



John 1:1-2:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."

Only the wise can understand the paradox of the nature of God!

Bros, since 1599 the oldest English Bible, older than KJV, written by your Trinity mentors, rejects your claims.
John 1:1
1599 Geneva Bible
The Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ, According to John
1 That Word begotten of God before all worlds, 2 and which was ever with the Father, 14 is made man.  6, 7 For what end John was sent from God. 15 His preaching of Christ’s office. 19, 20 The record that he bare given out unto the Priests. 40 The calling of Andrew, 42 of Peter, 43 Philip, 45 and Nathanael.

1 In [a]the beginning [c]was [d]that Word, and that Word was [e]with God, and that [f]Word was God.


Footnotes
John 1:1 The Son of God is of one, and the selfsame eternity or everlastingness, and of one and the selfsame essence or nature, with the Father.
[b]John 1:1 From his beginning, as the Evangelist saith, 1 John 1:1, as though he said, that the world began not then to have his being, when God began to make all that was made: for the word was even then when all things that were made, began to be made, and therefore he was before the beginning of all things.
John 1:1 Had his being.
John 1:1 This word, That, pointeth out unto us a peculiar and choice thing above all other, and putteth a difference between this Word, which is the Son of God, and the Laws of God, which otherwise also are called the word of God.

John 1:1 This word (With) putteth out the distinction of persons to us"

Bros consider the points... Read and understand.

"John 1:1 This word, That, pointeth out unto us a peculiar and choice thing above all other, and putteth a difference between this Word, which is the Son of God, and the Laws of God, which otherwise also are called the word of God."

Bros, the word is a being begotten of God before all worlds - spiritual and physical.
The word is different from God's speech.


"That Word begotten of God before all worlds", = "that Word begotten of God before creation." = Colossians 1:15-17, if know you know.

Brother Janosky, please present the truth with mildness and deep respect {1Peter 3:15} never mind their attitude, in their hearts they know you're giving strong witness, it's just that many of them have determined never to allow JWs win them over. So just present the truth and allow those disposed for everlasting life reason for themselves! Act 26:28

Janosky:


Bros, stop DECEIVING yourself.
The Bible manuscript says "He", you DUBIOUSLY change "he" to something else.
The first time you quote 1 Timothy 3:16, Bros, na "he" not God.

It was a mystery to inspired Bible writers in the old testament.

But revealed to Prophet Isaiah ( confirm Matthew 12:15-20. )
Bros ,@ Matthew 12:15-20, did Jesus , Isaiah & Paul refute your claim on 1 Timothy 3:16?

MaxInDHouse:
Brother Janosky, please present the truth with mildness and deep respect {1Peter 3:15} never mind their attitude, in their hearts they know you're giving strong witness, it's just that many of them have determined never to allow JWs win them over. So just present the truth and allow those disposed for everlasting life reason for themselves! Act 26:28

Thanks for the counsel.
Noted.

oluwaahmed:


I have jwit friends i used to relate with before I changed location. One was explained why the concept of hell isn't really real before stuvs came and he had to go. No vex but can u shed light on why you guys don't believe in he'll even though Jesus talked about the place

To shed more light on the points explained by my Brother,MaxinDhouse:

Anywhere you see Jesus words rendered "hell" or "hellfire", (Mark 9:43 etc) the actual word is "Gehenna".
Gehenna is often mistranslated as "hellfire".
But Gehenna is NOT hellfire.

Gehenna is a burrow pit or refuse dump at the outskirts of Jerusalem, where refuse & dead bodies of criminals where dumped & burnt to ashes by sulfur & brimstone, no living person was tortured nor tormented there.

Janosky:

Bros, do you have prove that Matthew 24:36 is not true?

Let's see it, Oga proceed.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Jesus on earth was limited to his human nature, hence he exhibited human characteristics such as hunger, thirst, sleep and limited knowledge of things.
So this is one of the things restricted from Jesus human knowledge.

But you might ask what about the holy spirit?
When Jesus was earth the holy spirit has not being given, Jesus was referring to persons that had being revealed to his disciples.

The term "no one" is actually limited in many parts of the bible, for example,

Romans 3:9-10 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

In this verse paul used no one, the no one here referred to Jews and Gentiles yet Jesus himself was a jew but he was a righteous man.

In the same way, "No one" as used by Jesus in matt 24:36 only referred to revealed persons, which are, Jesus, men, the Angels and the Father.

So no one knews the date of Jesus coming except the father.

MaxInDHouse:


@ John 17:22 Jesus said the same thing about his followers. Does it mean Jehovah, Jesus and the numerous disciples are one Almighty God?

They are not the same, the people wanted to stone Jesus because they knew he made himself equal with God.

John 10:30-33 I and my Father are one.
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Jesus did not deny it but pointed them to the fact that even humans are called gods how much more himself.

livingchrist:
good this people use double standard as long as it suite them.


Cc maximus going by your logic when Jesus said only the father knows the day and time of his coming, it does not mean the father alone

You to see am. When person is not conversant with the way they use their words, they get such ones manipulated. You will see that his response straight after your post is to use the word IT COULD MEAN

God said "i did it" it could mean i never employed anyone to work with me...Max

achorladey:


You to see am. When person is not conversant with the way they use their words, they get such ones manipulated. You will see that his response straight after your post is to use the word IT COULD MEAN

God said "i did it" it could mean i never employed anyone to work with me...Max

yea, they have being taught very well by the father of lies how to decieve.

Maximus kept dodging and beating round the Bush when it was clear he was exposed, imagine he called Jehovah a liar because he wants to protect himself.

I only used his logic against him, seems they cant take what they dish out. Smh

livingchrist:
They are not the same, the people wanted to stone Jesus because they knew he made himself equal with God.

John 10:30-33 I and my Father are one.
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Jesus did not deny it but pointed them to the fact that even humans are called gods how much more himself.

Just quote or cite where Jesus specifically call himself God and it's all settled, as for the "i and father" it's not tenable as the same Jesus declared that his father, himself and his disciples are one!

livingchrist:
yea, they have being taught very well by the father of lies how to decieve.
Maximus kept dodging and beating round the Bush when it was clear he was exposed, imagine he called Jehovah a liar because he wants to protect himself.
I only used his logic against him, seems they cant take what they dish out. Smh

The highlighted is enough to tell you what is written in the Bible book of John 17:22, "they" is OK for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES it's you that's not united with anybody! Luke 11:23

MaxInDHouse:


Just quote or cite where Jesus specifically call himself God and it's all settled, as for the "i and father" it's not tenable as the same Jesus declared that his father, himself and his disciples are one!

Do you know more than Jesus and the people that wanted to stone him?
They understood that Jesus made himself equal with God and Jesus himself never denied it.

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is enough to tell you what is written in the Bible book of John 17:22, "they" is OK for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES it's you that's not united with anybody! Luke 11:23

there are many cults that are united, the church of latter day saints are even more united so you cannot see yourself as the only group that is united.

livingchrist:
Do you know more than Jesus and the people that wanted to stone him?
They understood that Jesus made himself equal with God and Jesus himself never denied it.

You're confusing yourself my friend!
How many accusations do you expect Jesus to deny?
OK they said:
© he's mad! Mark 3:21;John 10:20
© he's a Samaritan! John 8:48
© he's working for the devil! Matthew 10:25
© he's against paying of tax! John 19:12
© he's a glutton, he's a drunkard! Luke 7:31-34
© he's a sinner! John 9:16 and you're now thinking he should continue to trade words with this people shey? Matthew 26:62-63

So think of a better defence of your TRINITY, Jesus always claim to be the Son! Son!! Son!!! Of God! Matthew 26:63-64
That's what he will never be silent about, as for other allegations God's Son needs not continue arguing fruitlessly with your kind!

That is the first mark of true Christianity {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:2; Philippians 2:2} before other qualities are considered.
So if you don't belong to a group of united worshipers go and check yourself! Luke 11:23

livingchrist:
there are many cults that are united, the church of latter day saints are even more united so you cannot see yourself as the only group that is united.

Janosky:


Hupernikao says God and Jesus is the same person.

I asked him earlier: is God praying to himself?
The bros dodge the question.

Confused bunch typing GIBBERISH

Dodge your question? You are a starter in my class. I am open to answer all your questions provided you read properly and not be dishonest too.

The issue is ,it is obvious you cant retain a lesson or teaching you learnt in a short while. I have repeated the answer all through my writing.

I will help you again.

When ever you mention Jesus, you are refering to man, not a God. A man born of woman. All through the scriptures, you will see this. That same man died for you, God dont die, he cried, he prayed. That is to let you know his humanity.

So, when you see Jesus prayed and you are disturbed in understanding, it is because you dont pay attention. Man prays, hence, Jesus prayed. Man has Father, hence Jesus has a Father.

So, in summary to help your forgetfulness.

1. Jesus is a name of a man, not a name of a God. A man (in OT prophecies) who was born to fulfilled God's will for you and I and sit in God's authority today.
2. That same Jesus, man, was the God in OT according to the OT writers, who was in their prophecies to come as man and dwell with man.
3. The moment he is to dwell with man, he must become a man.

So, shouting Jesus and not knowing the import of the word, is your limitation.

Get knowledge.

MaxInDHouse:

You're confusing yourself my friend!
How many accusations do you expect Jesus to deny?
OK they said:
© he's mad! Mark 3:21;John 10:20
© he's a Samaritan! John 8:48
© he's working for the devil! Matthew 10:25
© he's against paying of tax! John 19:12
© he's a glutton, he's a drunkard! Luke 7:31-34
© he's a sinner! John 9:16 and you're now thinking he should continue to trade words with this people shey? Matthew 26:62-63

So think of a better defence of your TRINITY, Jesus always claim to be the Son! Son!! Son!!! Of God! Matthew 26:63-64
That's what he will never be silent about, as for other allegations God's Son needs not continue arguing fruitlessly with your kind!

In each of those case Jesus defended himself

Mark 3:22-23 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

Here in John Jesus refuted their claim that he does not have a devil.

Matthew 22:17, 21 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Note all these where accusations, in John 10 vv30 it was Jesus very words not what the jews said or thought.

sonmvayina:


According to the Catholic Encyclopedia the founding Fathers of the Church believed that JESUS WAS NOT GOD, and later according to the facts in the Britannica Encyclopedia, the Catholic Bishops who attended the Church Council held in 341 AD in Antioch also believed that JESUS WAS NOT GOD nor was equal to God in anyway. This 341 AD Catholic doctrine nullified the Nicene Creed written in 325 AD, which proclaimed Jesus was God essentially making it a heretical teaching, a “Heresy” against the one true God and the Catholic Church. Later in 350 AD when the Emperor of Rome Constantius II took full power,
Christian Arianism, which believed Jesus was not God, became the official Catholic Church teaching, and the people who believed Jesus was God (Nicene Party/Orthodox Christians) were said to have been “Largely Crushed”, as written in the Britannica encyclopedia. After the death of the Emperor of Rome Constantius II, the Nicene party (Orthodox Christians) regained influence and power and in 381 AD they held another Church Council reaffirming the Nicene Creed, which believed Jesus was God being part of a Trinity of three separate male gods that were one god.

The tale of Jesus of Nazareth is a plagiaristic fable of Greek origins, constructed from various stories in the Tanakh that were about other people and events that had already occurred in that book’s timeline. Not only is Jesus not god, and can be considered to be a false god, but his entire story including the claim that he is the anointed King of the Jews as foretold in the Tanakh, is a plagiaristic fable copied from parts of older stories that already occurred hundreds of years earlier in the Tanakh timeline.

Your goal post is moving, and also moving in troubling manner. Please read again below what you wrote earlier.

Nobody knew anything about anybody by that name prior to the council of Nicea.
It was emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire that gathered all the religious leaders to Nicea. It was at that council after about 2 years of deliberations that the character was created as the new God of Christianity...
Eusebius was mandated to prepare a single documents from the manuscript provided by the leaders. Any body that did not believe was good as dead...

Your point we are discussing as seen above is that Jesus was Romans creation precisely by Constantine in Council of Nicea 325. Dont loose focus of that.


I have responded to you will contemporary evidence. I expect you to dispute that than giving me your own personal rhetoric. We are talking about history of over 2000 years here and i am not sure you are more than 100 years old, so your personal rhetoric cant stand here.

Now, tell me, the CHURCH FATHERS, you mentioned, existed when? before or after Constantine rule? You already gave history in your response that mentioned and debated Jesus 200 years before Constantine was born.

I expect you to just quit this and go and do more reading to help your stand on your submission. Its obvious you are yet to have a grasp on the history of what you are criticizing.

MaxInDHouse:
That is the first mark of true Christianity {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:2; Philippians 2:2} before other qualities are considered.
So if you don't belong to a group of united worshipers go and check yourself! Luke 11:23

other groups also has this among themselves.

By they way the early church didnt have one thought or actions, there were differences.

There some which eat some certain food which others found offensive and some prefer to observe some days while others do not I guess from your logic they are not true followed of Christ because of this differences.
Romans 14:3
Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

Romans 14:6
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Only cults tries to impose one line of thought on her adherants

Myer:


Long time no see/hear.
I think on this issue neither party is wrong.
Which brings us back to the issue of biblical contradictions yet again.

-The Trinitarian is not wrong as some bible verses confirm this. John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16, Isaiah 9:6

-Also the one who separates God the Father from Jesus Chist is neither wrong. As supporting verses abound even more in the bible.

Bro, I trust you have remained strong, spirit, soul and body.

Two opposing view can never be right at the same time when viewing the scriptures and any literature per say.

When you have opposing view in bible study, one or two of both of these things are happening.

1. One of the is wrong
2. Both of them are wrong

Secondly, the 3 scriptures you quoted above does not in any facts support the existence of Jesus as angel, which is what the other is seeing in his imaginative scriptures.

Truthfully also, when study wholesomely, all scriptures pointed to Christ as the GOD of OT writings, the MAN in the prophecies of the prophets of old, revealed in HUMANITY in this last days.

livingchrist:


In each of those case Jesus defended himself

Mark 3:22-23 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

Here in John Jesus refuted their claim that he does not have a devil.

Matthew 22:17, 21 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Note all these where accusations, in John 10 vv30 it was Jesus very words not what the jews said or thought.

Please quote or cite it where Jesus called himself God!

livingchrist:
1.John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

In this verse Jesus said he is not alone but he and his father are together.
Meaning Jesus is not the father.

2. John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Note the words "we" and "our" meaning is a pronoun of more than one person.

3. Psalms 110:1
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Hebrews 1:13
But to which of the angels said he at any times, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Note Jesus is sitting on the right hand of someone else "the father"

Acts 7:55
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Stephen saw Jesus sitting at God's right hand.

6. Jesus said the father is 'another'
John 5:32
There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

7. The father is greater than Jesus

John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

8. Jesus derived his authority from God the father.
John 5:27
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

John 17:2
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

9. At the end of everything Jesus would be made subject unto the father.

1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Jesus is not the Father but He is ONE with the Father (John 10:30). Oneness here signifies the highest level of unity. Unity so great that the Jesus does nothing except He sees His Father do it (John 5:19). Unity so great that it extends to the fusion of divinity where the LORD Jesus can be in the Father and the Father in the LORD Jesus (John 17:21). Unity so great that all that belongs to the Father also belongs to the LORD Jesus and all that belongs to the LORD Jesus also belongs to the Father (John 17:10). Unity so great that the ONLY way to the Father is through the LORD Jesus (John 14:6)...