shadeyinka:

Can you think carefully and weigh your response viz my last post?

Except you have no idea of what religion is in the first place?

A. Do you have an objection to the fact that Religions are things humans do as attempts to please a nonhuman/superior force who has the power to bless or punish people?

B. Can you invalidate these assumptions about Religion?
1. All religions believe in some form of superior being or force guiding human existence.
2. Both Evil and Good exist on the earth in undeniable magnitudes.
3. Good and Evil done by men often go unrewarded
4. If the superior being is worth anything of value, he should be the final judge and rewarder of all unrewarded acts of Goodness and acts of Evil (Isn't such a being expected to have power to reward or punish people?)

These are universally fair criteria to judge any religion.

I expect a person who can critically think to support his or her positions with facts!

You are talking about critical thinking when you can’t even think yourself. You don’t even know the simple definition of religion.

All religion don’t belief in the supernatural, I am shocked you don’t know this. This is why it’s important to study all religion before making a conclusion, but here you are locally stuck to Christianity and proudly ignorant in it.


There are several religions n that don’t believe in the supernatural, it’s not a must that a religion must have supernatural beliefs. I can educate you on it because I see you are proudly ignorant of this.

shadeyinka2:

I was just banned for no just cause!
But isnt it reasonable to finish your exam before your scripts are marked?

As long as we are alive, we can rewrite our scripts (exam question). At death, you are forced to submit your script

It can be fun to imagine all sorts of fantasies but you still need to live in the real world.

Workch:
You are talking about critical thinking when you can’t even think yourself. You don’t even know the simple definition for religion.

All religion don’t belief in the supernatural, I am shocked you don’t know this. This is why it’s important to study all religion before making a conclusion, but here you are locally stuck to Christianity and proudly ignorant in it.


There are several religions n that don’t believe in the supernatural, it’s not a must that a religion must have supernatural beliefs. I can educate you on it because I see you are proudly ignorant of this.

Please give me examples of religions that do not believe in the supernatural?
Ten examples out of 4,199 should be enough

shadeyinka:

Can you think carefully and weigh your response viz my last post?

Except you have no idea of what religion is in the first place?

A. Do you have an objection to the fact that Religions are things humans do as attempts to please a nonhuman/superior force who has the power to bless or punish people?

B. Can you invalidate these assumptions about Religion?
1. All religions believe in some form of superior being or force guiding human existence.
2. Both Evil and Good exist on the earth in undeniable magnitudes.
3. Good and Evil done by men often go unrewarded
4. If the superior being is worth anything of value, he should be the final judge and rewarder of all unrewarded acts of Goodness and acts of Evil (Isn't such a being expected to have power to reward or punish people?)

These are universally fair criteria to judge any religion.

I expect a person who can critically think to support his or her positions with facts!

Take your time and read about nontheistic religions before showcasing your ignorance to the world. You Christians usually think you know all whereas lot of you are so ignorant and even proud in it.

LordReed:


It can be fun to imagine all sorts of fantasies but you still need to live in the real world.

It is understandable when a blind man doesn't understand the meaning of colour BLUE!

Colour Blue does not have a weight, smell, size or physical dimensions other than through the visuals!

Workch:
Take your time and read about nontheistic religions before showcasing your ignorance to the world. You Christians usually think you know all whereas lot of you are so ignorant and even proud in it.

What is difficult in answering the question
Please give me examples of religions that do not believe in the supernatural?
Ten examples out of 4,199 should be enough!

shadeyinka3:

Please give me examples of religions that do not believe in the supernatural?
Ten examples out of 4,199 should be enough

you are so ignorant and proud that you don’t know that Buddhism, which is the 3rd largest religion in the world doesn’t acknowledge any deity or God. You should study before arguing, else it makes you a sciolist

shadeyinka3:

What is difficult in answering the question
Please give me examples of religions that do not believe in the supernatural?
Ten examples out of 4,199 should be enough!

Jainism
Confucianism
Taoism

These are very large religions without deities

shadeyinka3:

What is difficult in answering the question
Please give me examples of religions that do not believe in the supernatural?
Ten examples out of 4,199 should be enough!

Laveyan Satanism religion is materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death.

KnownUnknown:


Laveyan Satanism religion is materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death.

Dont mind all these proud Christians who barely read even the Bible accurately but claim to know all.

He thinks it’s called “religion” because it acknowledges a supernatural being.

shadeyinka3:

It is understandable when a blind man doesn't understand the meaning of colour BLUE!

Colour Blue does not have a weight, smell, size or physical dimensions other than through the visuals!

Wrong, it has a frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum that a blind man can get to understand whether he can see it or not. After life speculations remain that, speculations, not a single shred of evidence to support the existence of any of it.

Workch:
You are talking about critical thinking when you can’t even think yourself. You don’t even know the simple definition of religion.

All religion don’t belief in the supernatural, I am shocked you don’t know this. This is why it’s important to study all religion before making a conclusion, but here you are locally stuck to Christianity and proudly ignorant in it.


There are several religions n that don’t believe in the supernatural, it’s not a must that a religion must have supernatural beliefs. I can educate you on it because I see you are proudly ignorant of this.

Supernaturals is not synonymous with miracles.
Buddhism
Jainism
Hinduism
All believe in beings that are not physical: that is what is meant by supernatural (NOT natural)

shadeyinka4:

Supernaturals is not synonymous with miracles.
Buddhism
Jainism
Hinduism
All believe in beings that are not physical: that is what is meant by supernatural (NOT natural)

Here he goes with more ignorance. Why can’t you just take a moment and read about them carefully before making a comment?

We are not here to drag anything with you but stop making a fool of yourself. Go back and read about them carefully

Workch:
you are so ignorant and proud that you don’t know that Buddhism, which is the 3rd largest religion in the world doesn’t acknowledge any deity or God. You should study before arguing, else it makes you a sciolist

In Buddhism, gods are called deva and live in a separate realm of existence consisting of 27 heavens or svarga

Can you disprove this please

shadeyinka4:

In Buddhism, gods are called deva and live in a separate realm of existence consisting of 27 heavens or svarga

Can you disprove this please

Lol, sciolist . Read deep, go down and read about deva in Buddhism. Deva has different descriptions in different Indian religions
Every now and then you make it clear that you don’t like reading

Workch:
Jainism
Confucianism
Taoism

These are very large religions without deities

But the y believe in the supernaturals and non personal deities
However, Jainism believes in the world of heavenly and hell beings who are born, die and are reborn like earthly beings. Jain texts maintain that souls who live happily in the body of a god do so because of their positive karma.[46] It is further stated that they possess a more transcendent knowledge about material things and can anticipate events in the human realms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism#God

Jains do not believe in a God or gods in the way that many other religions do, but they do believe in divine (or at least perfect) beings who are worthy of devotion

Confucianism is more of a Philosophy than a religion however , Confucius himself is worshipped as a spirit rather than a god.
If he is worshipped as a spirit, then the aspect of superiority of the supernatural is established.

Taoists believe in spiritual immortality, where the spirit of the body joins the universe after death. Even though Taoists don't concern themselves with redemption after death, they believe in Karma.
Karma is an important concept in Taoism. Every deed is tracked by deities and spirits. Appropriate rewards or retribution follow karma, just like a shadow follows a person.

Workch:
Here he goes with more ignorance. Why can’t you just take a moment and read about them carefully before making a comment?

We are not here to drag anything with you but stop making a fool of yourself. Go back and read about them carefully

As an atheist, you don't believe in spirits, Karma and things like that because they are supernaturals.

All the so-called nontheistic religions believe in them.

Why should I practice jainism or Buddhism or Hinduism as a religion when it doesn't answer the question of reward for my being exceptionally good to my fellow men nor justice when i practice wickedness to my fellow men?

Workch:
Lol, sciolist . Read deep, go down and read about deva in Buddhism. Deva has different descriptions in different Indian religions
Every now and then you make it clear that you don’t like reading

Are Divas animals, place or things?

shadeyinka4:

But the y believe in the supernaturals and non personal deities
However, Jainism believes in the world of heavenly and hell beings who are born, die and are reborn like earthly beings. Jain texts maintain that souls who live happily in the body of a god do so because of their positive karma.[46] It is further stated that they possess a more transcendent knowledge about material things and can anticipate events in the human realms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism#God

Jains do not believe in a God or gods in the way that many other religions do, but they do believe in divine (or at least perfect) beings who are worthy of devotion

Confucianism is more of a Philosophy than a religion however , Confucius himself is worshipped as a spirit rather than a god.
If he is worshipped as a spirit, then the aspect of superiority of the supernatural is established.

Taoists believe in spiritual immortality, where the spirit of the body joins the universe after death. Even though Taoists don't concern themselves with redemption after death, they believe in Karma.
Karma is an important concept in Taoism. Every deed is tracked by deities and spirits. Appropriate rewards or retribution follow karma, just like a shadow follows a person.

Lol, I underestimated your sciolism

shadeyinka4:

As an atheist, you don't believe in spirits, Karma and things like that because they are supernaturals.

All the so-called nontheistic religions believe in them.

Why should I practice jainism or Buddhism or Hinduism as a religion when it doesn't answer the question of reward for my being exceptionally good to my fellow men nor justice when i practice wickedness to my fellow men?

I am really having a big laugh looking at the way you really still not understand the tenet of Buddhism just because you read superficially. No wonder you are this ignorant. Lol

shadeyinka4:

But the y believe in the supernaturals and non personal deities
However, Jainism believes in the world of heavenly and hell beings who are born, die and are reborn like earthly beings. Jain texts maintain that souls who live happily in the body of a god do so because of their positive karma.[46] It is further stated that they possess a more transcendent knowledge about material things and can anticipate events in the human realms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism#God

Jains do not believe in a God or gods in the way that many other religions do, but they do believe in divine (or at least perfect) beings who are worthy of devotion

Confucianism is more of a Philosophy than a religion however , Confucius himself is worshipped as a spirit rather than a god.
If he is worshipped as a spirit, then the aspect of superiority of the supernatural is established.

Taoists believe in spiritual immortality, where the spirit of the body joins the universe after death. Even though Taoists don't concern themselves with redemption after death, they believe in Karma.
Karma is an important concept in Taoism. Every deed is tracked by deities and spirits. Appropriate rewards or retribution follow karma, just like a shadow follows a person.

dude,
Confucius of Confucianism was a Chinese philosopher that lived and has recorded history as a mortal. This guy is such an ignoramus.

shadeyinka4:

As an atheist, you don't believe in spirits, Karma and things like that because they are supernaturals.

All the so-called nontheistic religions believe in them.

Why should I practice jainism or Buddhism or Hinduism as a religion when it doesn't answer the question of reward for my being exceptionally good to my fellow men nor justice when i practice wickedness to my fellow men?

You're not making sense.
Even if we assume those faiths don't have a reward system,still a creator could be just about anything–there's no reason that he must necessarily behave that certain way.
Moreover,what justice do you talk of? How much will your goodness to your fellow man matter if you were of a different religion? You talk about justice and reward when in reality your faith has the most unjust system,werein most of humanity are condemned to an external unimaginable torment merely for being non-christian; this irrespective of how good they were. Meanwhile,the not too good Christians,or those who did horrible things still can find good graces with your God.
Your faith essentially says those Christian Nazi's still get the chance to go to heaven while their Jewish victims are roasting externally in Hell! Justice indeed.

Workch:
Lol, I underestimated your sciolism

To someone who is this shallow: I can understand your feeling

Workch:
I am really having a big laugh looking at the way you really still not understand the tenet of Buddhism just because you read superficially. No wonder you are this ignorant. Lol

Do you believe in karma as an atheist?
Why not?

Workch:
dude,
Confucius of Confucianism was a Chinese philosopher that lived and has recorded history as a mortal. This guy is such an ignoramus.

When you wouldn't read beyond your sentiments.
Confucius was a philosopher and teacher who lived from 551 to 479 B.C.E. His thoughts on ethics, good behavior, and moral character were written down by his disciples in several books, the most important being the Lunyu. Confucianism believes in ancestor worship and human-centered virtues for living a peaceful life. The golden rule of Confucianism is “Do not do unto others what you would not want others to do unto you.”

There is debate over if Confucianism is a religion. Confucianism is best understood as an ethical guide to life and living with strong character. Yet, Confucianism also began as a revival of an earlier religious tradition. There are no Confucian gods, and Confucius himself is worshipped as a spirit rather than a god. However, there are temples of Confucianism, which are places where important community and civic rituals happen.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/confucianism/

As far as you were concerned shadeyinka didn't know that Confucius was a man;
Maybe it will interest you to know that Sango the god of thunder in Yoruba mythology was a man married to a Nupe woman who is deified as a god.
SMH!

shadeyinka4:

Do you believe in karma as an atheist?
Why not?

How did we start discussing karma?
Stop running from pillar to post

BeLookingIDIOT:

You're not making sense.
Even if we assume those faiths don't have a reward system,still a creator could be just about anything–there's no reason that he must necessarily behave that certain way.
Moreover,what justice do you talk of? How much will your goodness to your fellow man matter if you were of a different religion? You talk about justice and reward when in reality your faith has the most unjust system,werein most of humanity are condemned to an external unimaginable torment merely for being non-christian; this irrespective of how good they were. Meanwhile,the not too good Christians,or those who did horrible things still can find good graces with your God.
Your faith essentially says those Christian Nazi's still get the chance to go to heaven while their Jewish victims are roasting externally in Hell! Justice indeed.

You seem not to comprehend the point.

What is the benefit of a system of Religion that has no reward system for Acts of Goodness and acts of Evil done to fellow human beings.
What kind of Karma will Adolf Hitler experience...didn't he exude power and authority till he commited suicide. Is his suicide enough payment for his wickedness?

Taoism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Jainism and co seem to have a good answer to this simple question.

Most religion preach being good to others: if there is no justice, why should I be good in a world where selfishness seem to win?
Why does Nations have enforcement agencies (Police, Army, etc) if humans will naturally do good?

Mind you, I am not talking about Christianity here:

Workch:
exactly, it’s also a sin in my religion

But you sent a picture of your god, we are waiting for your own picture to see if you are the same image. Like father like son, right?

Workch:
How did we start discussing karma?
Stop running from pillar to post

Karma has nothing to do with physical force does it?

Karma is the reward you get for your actions on earth; good or bad.

Even when religions such as Taoism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Jainism and co do not have the same concept of God as the Creator, they have the concept of reward for deeds done by men (good or bad).!

I asked you the question because Karma is supposed to be a force out of the natural that visits good or bad on people for violating moral laws.

This answer the question of supernaturality being an inherent aspect in religions.

LordReed:


That's why justice is essential while we are alive, wishing that someone gets punished after they are dead is nothing but a pipe dream.

You're so sure of this by faith, right? Clownreed

LordReed:


Wrong, it has a frequency on the electromagnetic spectrum that a blind man can get to understand whether he can see it or not. After life speculations remain that, speculations, not a single shred of evidence to support the existence of any of it.

Sorry sir!
The frequency of electromagnetic wave is not what defines colour Blue: it is the other way round.
Color Blue (as seen by normal sighted humans) is defined by its place within the electromagnetic spectrum.

A colorblind person even though can see, does not visually discern what color blue is!

I can understand why a blind man cannot comprehend what colour blue look like is a valid statement. What evidence does a blind man need to describe color blue? BTW, can you answer what colour is 3 MHz electromagnetic wave (hope you get the point)