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Bishopkingsley:
It not given to man from God to know that day which he will come you don't need to know the day or are you a devil planing to run away from that day

Try to understand things before you respond. You are off mark totally. Read my last reply to you.

livingchrist:
It was written that there is none righteous according to your logic it includes God right?

Romans 3:10,11

" As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "

How does this include God ?

In Matthew, how many persons know the day and hour ?

Janosky:
Ecclesiastes 7:20
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

Romans 3:10-12
As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one"
Unrighteous specific to man.

Matthew 24:36 , with exception "only the Father"

Bros, is your logic pointless?
Let the Bible & your God given brain give you the answers.

I didn't even know you have addressed it. Brilliant

Barristter07:
You said holy spirit is a person, don't you ?

All I want you to spell out is " apart from the Father, is there any other person that knows the day and hour ? " Matt 24:26

God is the father God is the son God is the holy spirit

God knows the last day the world will end

You are Barristter07

Barristter07 has a body Barristter07 has a soul Barristter07 had a spirit

What ever you think in your soul your spirit know about it your body knows about it

God the holy spirit will not tell you the day it will end why bother to ask that

livingchrist:
If "no one" is specific like you said then no one knows the hour of Christ coming is also specific It is specific to revealed persons which are Angels, Jesus, God the father and men it does not include the holy spirit because the personhood of the holy spirit was not yet revealed because he has not be poured out.

You just proved it brilliantly and Emphatically that holy spirit is not a person. It's not even among revealed Known persons. That's enough point.

To destroy your theory more. The verse included every living person in the universe including humans. Hence Jesus use of " Nobody knows "

Holy spirit isn't part of the Nobody and revealed persons , because it was never one.

Thank you Brother livingchrist for this revelation. We love that point that shed light on the truth. Keep it up

Bishopkingsley:
God is the father God is the son God is the holy spirit

God knows the last day the world will end

You are Barristter07

Barristter07 has a body Barristter07 has a soul Barristter07 had a spirit

What ever you think in your soul your spirit know about it your body knows about it

God the holy spirit will not tell you the day it will end why bother to ask that

Bishop, try and be reading your bible. It will help you

Matt 24:36, says Only the Father knows. , Are you saying holy spirit is the same person called Father ?

Barristter07:
You just proved it brilliantly and Emphatically that holy spirit is not a person. It's not even among revealed Known persons. That's enough point.

To destroy your theory more. The verse included every living person in the universe including humans. Hence Jesus use of " Nobody knows "

Holy spirit isn't part of the Nobody and revealed persons , because it was never one.

Thank you Brother livingchrist for this revelation. We love that point that shed light on the truth. Keep it up

Acts 13:2

As they were ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.

Barristter07:
Bishop, try and be reading your bible. It will help you

Matt 24:36, says Only the Father knows. , Are you saying holy spirit is the same person called Father ?

Read your Bible these three are one yet you won't read

I told you God is the father God is the son God is the holy spirit

Ask yourself does God know when the end will come


1 Corinthians 2:11

For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.


Now since the holy spirit is God spirit.
Bible says God spirit knows the mind of God

Or you want God to tell you that the holy spirit know the day before you will believe

Are you this naive

Barristter07:
Bishop, try and be reading your bible. It will help you

Matt 24:36, says Only the Father knows. , Are you saying holy spirit is the same person called Father ?

1 Corinthians 2:11

For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.


Now since the holy spirit is God spirit.
Bible says God spirit knows the mind of God

Bishopkingsley:
1 Corinthians 2:11

For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.


Now since the holy spirit is God spirit.
Bible says God spirit knows the mind of God

A man's spirit knows the mind of man too , and man's spirit is a thing not person.

So if holy spirit is a person, How many persons now know the day of the end ?

Bishopkingsley:
Read your Bible these three are one yet you won't read

I told you God is the father God is the son God is the holy spirit

Ask yourself does God know when the end will come


1 Corinthians 2:11

For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.


Now since the holy spirit is God spirit.
Bible says God spirit knows the mind of God

Or you want God to tell you that the holy spirit know the day before you will believe

Are you this naive

So Jesus lie when he said only the Father knows ?

Bishopkingsley:
Acts 13:2

As they were ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.

Personification of the power that enable them get the message.

This is why you need to Tell us if Jesus lied at Matt 24:36 that holy spirit is not among persons in the universe.

Barristter07:
A man's spirit knows the mind of man too , and man's spirit is a thing not person.

So if holy spirit is a person, How many persons now know the day of the end ?

You say spirit is a thing

Am sorry we can't continue because you need to learn what spirit is since you don't know what Bible you read

Barristter07:
Personification of the power that enable them get the message.

This is why you need to Tell us if Jesus lied at Matt 24:36 that holy spirit is not among persons in the universe.

Sorry we are not on the same page sorry

Barristter07:
So Jesus lie when he said only the Father knows ?

we can't reason together since you call your spirit a thing

Bishopkingsley:
You say spirit is a thing

Am sorry we can't continue because you need to learn what spirit is since you don't know what Bible you read

Bible prove so. Not me, next time ask Why the person said so.

Eccl 12:7

and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. .

Notice the color part.

So since the spirit of man which is a thing as seen above knows the mind of Man, are you saying God's spirit isnt a thing too ? If it's not a thing, did Jesus lie when he said only the Father knows the day and hour ?

Barristter07:
Romans 3:10,11

" As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "

How does this include God ?

In Matthew, how many persons know the day and hour ?

no one is righteous? Yet Jesus is a righteous man.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

So you see that "no one","only" can be used in a limited sense.

Another is no one knows what is in man except the spirit of man. Does that mean God does not know what is in man?

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.


Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Does it also mean God does not know the man?

Barristter07:
Bible prove so. Not me, next time ask Why the person said so.

Eccl 12:7

and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. .

Notice the color part.

So since the spirit of man which is a thing as seen above knows the mind of Man, are you saying God's spirit isnt a thing too ? If it's not a thing, did Jesus lie when he said only the Father knows the day and hour ?

lol, ' it' used to describe the spirit is just for grammatical correctness. In hebrew it does not determine personhood

Barristter07:
Thank you.
So how many persons know the Day?

Only the Father knows!

Does Holy Spirit knows the mind of God?

Barristter07:
So Jesus lie when he said only the Father knows ?

So the scripture lied when it said Holy spirit knows the mind of God.

In fact, how can inanimate thing KNOW THE VERY MIND OF YOUR GOD?

Janosky:
Advocate is a masculine Greek pronoun.
Hence, holy Spirit is spoken of as Advocate

So you know a masculine Greek was used for the Holy Spirit yet you always claim NEUTER for Him

Hence, which make Holy Spirit a PERSON

You haven't completed my post, I challenged you to tell us ONE INANIMATE THING that said to be an advocate. In fact, that Jesus is also an advocate means Holy Spirit and Jesus are person.

[s]Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Compare Luke 4:14.

Your deity is led by another person,So your deity is no longer God Almighty?
"Jesus full of holy spirit, So how many persons is Jesus your deity?
[/s]

Usual ranting has started.
I'm here for that.

Holy spirit is always sent forth for a given purpose, has no will of it's own.

The fact that you can spew the @color part shows how dishonesty and hypocrisy you are.

Here is it confirmed even in your demonic translation

But all these operations are performed by the very same spirit, distributing to each one respectively just as it wills. 1 Corin 12:11

Is the finger of God a person?
Is the eyes/ears of God a person?

Tell us where the finger or eyes or ears of God said to have MIND, can be grieved, has WILL, advocate, speak e.t.c

Emusan:
So the scripture lied when it said Holy spirit knows the mind of God.

Proving it's not a person. Cos only one person knows the day and hour.

In fact, how can inanimate thing KNOW THE VERY MIND OF YOUR GOD?

The same way the human spirit , which is a thing. Knows the mind of humans.

The question again: do you accept the above or you insisted Jesus lied only a person knows ?

Emusan:
Only the Father knows!

Does Holy Spirit knows the mind of God?

Proving holy spirit is not a person,. It's not two persons that know. Doesn't a man's spirit also knows a man's mind, is it not a thing ?

livingchrist:
lol, ' it' used to describe the spirit is just for grammatical correctness. In hebrew it does not determine personhood

Stop lying. Further evidence human spirit is an "it", a thing. is found the moment Jesus died and his spirit return to God. Yet he said later he has not return to the Father.

Eccl 12:7 is not about correctness but Fact.

So if human spirit which is a thing is spoken of as knowing the mind of a man, how much more holy spirit, which is a thing ... can't be spoken of as knowing the mind of God ?

livingchrist:
no one is righteous? Yet Jesus is a righteous man.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

So you see that "no one","only" can be used in a limited sense.

Do you read at all ?
You first said God, you were proved False in the context of the very same verse.

Now you ran to Jesus. Even when Romans 3:10,11 clearly shows it wasn't addressing Jesus . , Are you sure you know what you are doing ?


Romans 3:9, 10,11 has explained itself. Verse 9 said the Text is addressed to Everyone born under SIN. Is Jesus born under SIN?

Another is no one knows what is in man except the spirit of man. Does that mean God does not know what is in man?

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man , but the Spirit of God.

Is God a man? It says no man. The context already excludes God . The same way Matthew 24:36 Exclude the Father from everybody else that doesn't know.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Does it also mean God does not know the man?

Emphasis on " New Name Written" , The one who write the name is not included, cos when he was writing it, he knows it . Basic sense... the GIVER OF THE NAME is not included

Who gave the Father the right to know the day and hour , so we can exclude the person ? If none. You are in for a serious Yawa

Barristter07:
Proving holy spirit is not a person,. It's not two persons that know. Doesn't a man's spirit also knows a man's mind, is it not a thing ?

Holy spirit is a person, that verse never talks about PERSON but what ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS, you're just attacking a straw man

Man's spirit is a person!

Alaye don get Emotional

Emusan:
Holy spirit is a person, that verse never talks about PERSON but what ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS, you're just attacking a straw man

The text is all about which person knows.

The bold makes how many person knowing ?

Man's spirit is a person!

An "it" , not person.
' ... Spirit return to God who gave IT ' Eccl 12:7

Sorry ehn

Barristter07:
Proving it's not a person. Cos only one person knows the day and hour.

So pathetic you can be so deluded.

Do you even reason to what you post at all?

If because ONLY THE FATHER knows (as what the scripture says) makes Holy spirit not a person, then OTHERS WHO DONT KNOW like the son, the angels are also not a pereon.

The same way the human spirit , which is a thing. Knows the mind of humans.

See what educated illitrate is saying.

How can unconscious THING has the capacity to KNOW?

Which school did you get that from?

The question again: do you accept the above or you insisted Jesus lied only a person knows ?

As everyone can see, you're the very one who is lying here because Jesus never said ONLY A PERSON. If ONLY A PERSON know it means others who don't know are not PERSON.

Barristter07:
Alaye don get Emotional

Like you do

The text is all about which person knows.
The bold makes how many person knowing ?

The text wasnt about HOW MANY PERSON KNOW thats still your own interjection
Jesus did not know Angels did not know
Does that make them not a PERSON?

An "it" , not person. ' ... Spirit return to God who gave IT ' Eccl 12:7
Sorry ehn

But Him is a person
pele

Emusan:
Like you do
The text wasnt about HOW MANY PERSON KNOW thats still your own interjection
Jesus did not know
Angels did not know
Does that make them not a PERSON?
But Him is a person

pele

English is now a problem ?

The bolded are all persons that doesn't know. It doesn't change the Fact that they are persons , But they don't know

Now the question says : How many persons know ? One person, the Father . Simple

Anyone who claims Holyspirit is a person is saying TWO PERSONS KNOW. Which would make Jesus a liar.

This is the basis of the scam called trinity

Emusan:
So pathetic you can be so deluded.
Do you even reason to what you post at all?
If because ONLY THE FATHER knows (as what the scripture says) makes Holy spirit not a person, then OTHERS WHO DONT KNOW like the son, the angels are also not a pereon.

Replied in my earlier post. English is your problem. A person know, and many persons don't know. How many person's know?

The qualifier is " KNOW " .

Someone said to a group:

How many person's know The capital of Nigeria is Abuja ? That statement didn't say those who don't know are not persons. But it aim to know what's the figure of those who know. Pathetic

See what educated illitrate is saying.

How can unconscious THING has the capacity to KNOW?

Which school did you get that from?
As everyone can see, you're the very one who is lying here because Jesus never said ONLY A PERSON. If ONLY A PERSON know it means others who don't know are not PERSON.

Eccl 12:7 said human spirit is " IT " . A thing, it was personified. Further prove its a thing was offered, Spirit return to God when a man dies, but Jesus didn't return to God the day he died ... Spirit of man is not a person. That answers how spirit of God could know the things of God.

Barristter07:
English is now a problem ?

The bolded are all persons that doesn't know. It doesn't change the Fact that they are persons , But they don't know

Now the question says : How many persons know ? One person, the Father . Simple

Anyone who claims Holyspirit is a person is saying TWO PERSONS KNOW. Which would make Jesus a liar.

This is the basis of the scam called trinity

The fact is that, Jesus never mentioned HOLY SPIRIT in that verse, which negates your lying of forcing wrong meaning into that verse.

After I pointed out your delusion of PERSON know which is just your useless interjection.

John 16:13 However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming." NWT

Can you tell us how the color part fits into inanimate thing, Mr educated illiterate?

If your son/daughter comes back from school and give a narration in this same manner, would you have assumed s/he was talking about inanimate thing or a person?