Nice one, am in

buzugee: you know eating snails pork shrimps and lobster is breaking one of his laws right he put those animals in the world to clean up his ecosystem. which of those do you eat goshen ? honest answer please

i eat all this animals, and there is no one who eats meat or fish who hasn't eating atleast one of this animals. Peter refused to eat them in the Bible, cause they where unclean. But the angels made it know to him that such animals can be eating. The angel wanted to prove to him that its not what goes into a man, but what comes out of a man that God looks at.

can anyone help me with where i can download a good bible software for phones to back up discussion on this thread.

I'm in! I've been thinking about starting a thread like this, but wasn't sure if anyone would be interested. Glad I'm seeing this now.
But why don't we start from Genesis?

Let's hammer on topics week in week out.....
I think that'll be better.....
Topics on serious doctrines like hell fire,heaven,trinity,celebacy,relics worship,prayer,speaking in tongues,miracles,prosperity doctrines, etc...many of them....

Topical studies is getting more vote. More suggestions please.

Thank God we are going to be facing squarely the new testament, reading the old testament, sometimes i get confused because of the contrast between both testaments.

i eat all this animals, and there is no one who eats meat or fish who hasn't eating atleast one of this animals. Peter refused to eat them in the Bible, cause they where unclean. But the angels made it know to him that such animals can be eating. The angel wanted to prove to him that its not what goes into a man, but what comes out of a man that God looks at.

can anyone help me with where i can download a good bible software for phones to back up discussion on this thread.

. oiseworld, i would hope you believe the lord when he says that he swears by his own word and his word will never be recalled

ISAIAH 45 VS 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,

This is a great idea

Christians and their myopic attitude. Bible studies on Nairaland sounds stupid!

@buzugee, i get you there.pls i will reply soon.

I thought that all that is currently ongoing on Nairaland Religion section is already topical studies.
The difference in this new idea I assume is that everyone will be entitled to the interpretation he/she gets by the Spirit and no one tries to force his or her views down the throat of the other. Also name-callings will be banned.
Anything besides this will be of no difference to what is currently obtained. MHO.

Topical studies

You are right, the cause of spreading the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is not a one man affairs. We are ready to go fishing with you.

The bible is the answer. We are going to stand by what the bible says and what GOD wants us to hear, not what we want to hear. The bible stands.

ISAIAH 65 VS 3- THEY OPENLY PROVOKED ME
ISAIAH 65 VS 4- THEY ATE PORK AND MADE BROTH FROM UNCLEAN FOODS
ISAIAH 66 VS 17 - THEY DEVOUR PORK AND DISGUSTING THINGS. THEY WILL BE PUT TO DEATH AT THE SAME TIME

ISAIAH 45 VS 23 - I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,

THE LAW STILL STANDS. ONLY THE SACRIFICIAL LAWS AS ERADICATED BY THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB

Snowwy: I thought that all that is currently ongoing on Nairaland Religion section is already topical studies.
The difference in this new idea I assume is that everyone will be entitled to the interpretation he/she gets by the Spirit and no one tries to force his or her views down the throat of the other. Also name-callings will be banned.
Anything besides this will be of no difference to what is currently obtained. MHO.

Though many people support topical but yours is a very deep thought of my thought. We have always been having topical studies on Nairaland already which have always resulted to arguments and in most cases, not concluding on such topic. My thought also is that, there is message is every VERSES of the bible. When we dig deep on every verse or every chapter of the bible, we will cross reference where applicable and this will make a deeper study. I chose verse by verse or chapter by chapter because for me I can dig messages or revelation of each verse or chapter. I think we should consider what Snowwy and I are saying plus the fact we have seen topical studies always leading to argument in the past. Verse by Verse studies or Chapter by chapter will make us (each student) share their understand of such verse or chapter. We still leave room for more suggestions anyway. Thank you all.

I think the Topical Study will be great! It is high time we start getting some real soul lifting stuff on Nairaland. Gracias!

I think the Topical Study will be great! It is high time we start getting some real soul lifting stuff on Nairaland. Gracias!

Chapter by chapter

I suggest chapter by chapter study. A chapter a week. That way, we slowly sip the truth across the books of the bible without rushing through the study.

@goshen360 ok follow what holy spirit tells you and let start abeg, i can wait!

^^^
Thanks, am taking time to digest people's suggestions and see what's best for all of us. I will come up with a compilation of what we can do soon using everyone's idea or suggestion. Everybody is going to be involved. Thanks

we are waitn:.. God will bless us through this ijn.

I have considered all suggestions by many of our Christian brothers and sisters. Hence, I come up with these option and will also give my reasons. I hope we allow this option to stay so we can start to dig deep in the word of God.

1. I consider doing chapter by chapter studies as the best that will fit into everyone's style of bible study. Hence we should go for chapter by chapter on a weekly basis, beginning from Monday, March 19, 2012.

2. Topical studies will not be okay for us here due to the fact that it does not make our study unique or different from the usual thing or thread going on on Nairaland. Many of the threads on Nairaland are in the form of topics and usually end up with argument that is most time unresolved. I am very sure we don't want that to happen in our study.

3. With this Chapter by Chapter style of bible study, everyone is expected to participate by doing his or her personal chapter study. It encourages individual or everyone of us to do personal study on a private level. Everyone will be fully involved other than just being spoon fed, we want everyone to grow in the word of God. By this method of study, we will ensure everyone is doing his or her study.

4. We shall do just one chapter per week beginning on the above date. This will enable us have time to look at each chapter in a deeper study.

5. Every Monday of every week shall be our bible study day. What I mean is, every Monday shall be everyone's chapter study posting day while the rest days of the week shall be used or open for discussions, questions, answers, sharing of revelations on the current chapter we are studying, life application of the current chapter we are studying etc.

6. We shall begin or continue with Matthew chapter 2 on the above date but in the meanwhile, I shall finish the chapter one of the book of Matthew that I already started before next Monday 19, 2012 when Matthew chapter 2 shall begin.

7. For those that wanted the Old testament. As we study the New Testament, we shall always make references to the Old as we study the new.

Thank you all.

may God bless every1 that intend to follow and those who will join later ijn.

I have considered all suggestions by many of our Christian brothers and sisters. Hence, I come up with these option and will also give my reasons. I hope we allow this option to stay so we can start to dig deep in the word of God.

1. I consider doing chapter by chapter studies as the best that will fit into everyone's style of bible study. Hence we should go for chapter by chapter on a weekly basis, beginning from Monday, March 19, 2012.

2. Topical studies will not be okay for us here due to the fact that it does not make our study unique or different from the usual thing or thread going on on Nairaland. Many of the threads on Nairaland are in the form of topics and usually end up with argument that is most time unresolved. I am very sure we don't want that to happen in our study.

3. With this Chapter by Chapter style of bible study, everyone is expected to participate by doing his or her personal chapter study. It encourages individual or everyone of us to do personal study on a private level. Everyone will be fully involved other than just being spoon fed, we want everyone to grow in the word of God. By this method of study, we will ensure everyone is doing his or her study..

4. We shall do just one chapter per week beginning on the above date. This will enable us have time to look at each chapter in a deeper study.

5. Every Monday of every week shall be our bible study day. What I mean is, every Monday shall be everyone's chapter study posting day while the rest days of the week shall be used or open for discussions, questions, answers, sharing of revelations on the current chapter we are studying, life application of the current chapter we are studying etc.

6. We shall begin or continue with Matthew chapter 2 on the above date but in the meanwhile, I shall finish the chapter one of the book of Matthew that I already started before next Monday 19, 2012 when Matthew chapter 2 shall begin.

7. For those that wanted the Old testament. As we study the New Testament, we shall always make references to the Old as we study the new.

Thank you all

Awesome.Lets begin then.

Matthew Chapter 1 (cont’d)and Chapter by Chapter studies will start Monday, March 19, 2012. Everyone is expected/encouraged to from Matthew chapter two (2) and submit his/her studies here for general discussion. You can read instructions on this for weekly activities above. Thank you all.

Verse 6: and Jesse begot David the king. David the king begot Solomon by her [who had been the wife] of Uriah.

The whole of the genealogy of Jesus is divided into three (3) categories of people as we see in Matthew 1: 17: the age of the fathers or patriarchs, the king and the ordinary people or civilians. David was the eighth son of his father, he was chosen and anointed by God (1 Sam. 16:10-13). He was a man after the heart of God (1 Sam. 13:14) and brought in God's kingdom for Christ. David was the last of the generations of the fathers. He was also the first of the generations of the kings. He was the conclusion of one age and the beginning of the next. He became the landmark of two ages because he brought in the kingdom of God and was closely associated with Christ. Christ is the beginning and the ending, the Alpha and the Omega, the author and the finisher of our faith. If Christ doesn’t prove all of these, he cannot be the king and the Messiah but we can see he proved all of this to be the Messiah. In this genealogy, only David is called "the king" because it was through him that the kingdom with the kingship was brought in by Christ.

When David committed murder and adultery, he was rebuked by the prophet Nathan, whom God had sent purposely to condemn him and his act (2 Sam. 12:1-12). When David was condemned, he repented. Psalm 51 is the record of his repentance. He repented and God forgave him (2 Sam. 12:13). Then he begot Solomon (2 Sam. 12:24). Hence, Solomon is the issue of man's transgression and repentance plus God's forgiveness. The genealogy in Matthew says that David begot Solomon, but the genealogy in Luke says that Nathan was the son of David (Luke 3:31). First Chronicles 3:5 tells us that Nathan and Solomon were two different persons. Luke's record is the genealogy of David's son Nathan, who was Mary's forefather, whereas Matthew's record is the genealogy of David's son Solomon, who was Joseph's forefather. One genealogy is the line of Mary, the line of the wife; the other is the line of Joseph, the line of the husband. Both Mary and Joseph were descendants of David. Under God's sovereignty they were joined together by marriage, so that through Mary, Joseph was indirectly associated with Christ. Christ can be counted as a descendant of David through either Solomon or Nathan. Hence, He has two genealogies.

Strictly, Solomon was not a direct forefather of Christ. His relationship with Christ was indirect, through the marriage of Joseph, his descendant, to Mary, of whom Christ was born (v. 16). The Old Testament did not say that Christ would be Solomon's descendant, but it prophesied repeatedly that Christ would be a descendant of David (2 Sam. 7:13-14; Jer. 23:5). Although Christ was not a direct descendant of Solomon, the Old Testament prophecies concerning Christ as a descendant of David were nevertheless fulfilled.

Uriah was a Hittite, a heathen, and his wife was Bathsheba (2 Sam. 11:3). David murdered him and took Bathsheba. Hence, she was remarried as a result of murder and adultery (2 Sam. 11:26-27). David, a man after the heart of God, did right in the eyes of the Lord all the days of his life, except for this one evil (1 Kings 15:5). This genealogy does not say "of Bathsheba" but "of her who had been the wife of Uriah," to emphasize this great sin of David's, thus showing that Christ as the kingly Savior is related not only to the heathen but also to sinners. There is something a man will do and he will be remembered for such thing in his generation and the ones to come, good or evil. Nether the less, Christ is still associated with such kind of people and such people are permitted in the family of Christ and generate Christ to the world if we will come to Christ in repentance and obedience.

Verse 7: Solomon begot Rehoboam, Rehoboam begot Abijah, and Abijah begot Asa.

Beginning with Rehoboam, the kingdom of David was divided (1 Kings 11:9-12; 12:1-17). Of the twelve tribes, one was kept for David's sake (1 Kings 11:13), that is, for Christ. Christ needed the kingdom that belonged to the house of David, because He had to be born as an heir to David's throne, otherwise He cannot be the Messiah.

After being divided, the kingdom of David was in two parts. The northern part was called the kingdom of Israel (a universal name) and was composed of ten tribes of Israel; the southern part was called the kingdom of Judah (a local name) and was composed of two tribes, Judah and Benjamin. Although the kingdom of Israel was more universal than that of Judah, not one of the names of the kings of Israel was included in the genealogy of Christ except for King David.

Verse 8-12: Asa begot Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat begot Joram, and Joram begot Uzziah. Uzziah begot Jotham, Jotham begot Ahaz, and Ahaz begot Hezekiah. Hezekiah begot Manasseh, Manasseh begot Amon, and Amon begot Josiah. Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon. And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel.

The genealogy here records that "Joram begot Uzziah." However, 1 Chron. 3:11-12 says, "Joram his son, Ahaziah his son, Joash his son, Amaziah his son, Azariah" (who is Uzziah — 2 Kings 15:1, 13). Three generations — Ahaziah, Joash, and Amaziah — were omitted. This must have been because of the evil marriage of Joram and the daughter of Ahab and Jezebel, which corrupted Joram's descendants (2 Chron. 21:5-6; 22:1-4). In accordance with Exo. 20:5, three generations of Joram's descendants were cut off from the genealogy of Christ.

The genealogy here records that "Josiah begot Jeconiah." However, 1 Chron. 3:15-16 says, "The sons of Josiah ... the second Jehoiakim ... and the sons of Jehoiakim: Jeconiah his son." One generation — Jehoiakim — was omitted from the genealogy of Christ. This must have been because he was made king by Pharaoh of Egypt and collected taxes for Pharaoh (2 Kings 23:34-35).

Jeconiah was not reckoned a king in the genealogy, because he was born during the captivity and was a captive (2 Chron. 36:9-10— Jehoiachin is Jeconiah). According to the prophecy in Jer. 22:28-30, none of Jeconiah's descendants would inherit the throne of David. If Christ had been a direct descendant of Jeconiah, He would not have been entitled to the throne of David. Although Jer. 22:28-30 says that all the descendants of Jeconiah are excluded from the throne of David, Jer. 23:5 says that God would raise up a Shoot to David, a King who would reign and prosper. This Shoot is Christ. This prophecy confirms that Christ would be the descendant of David, although not a direct descendant of Jeconiah, and would inherit the throne of David. In this genealogy there is no mention of the brothers of any kings. However, here the brothers of Jeconiah are mentioned, proving that Jeconiah was not reckoned a king in this genealogy of Christ.

Even those who were carried away as captives to Babylon were included in this sacred record of Christ's genealogy because they had an indirect relationship with Christ through Mary, the wife of one of their descendants and the mother of Jesus."Jeconiah begot Salathiel, and Salathiel begot Zerubbabel." Compare this record with 1 Chron. 3:17-19, which says, "The sons of Jeconiah ... Salathiel ... and Pedaiah ... and the sons of Pedaiah were, Zerubbabel," showing that Zerubbabel was the son of Pedaiah, Salathiel's brother. Zerubbabel was not Salathiel's son but was his nephew, and he became his heir. Perhaps this was a case in accordance with Deut. 25:5-6. Even that word in Deuteronomy is related to the genealogy of Christ.

Zerubbabel was one of the leaders who returned to Jerusalem from the captivity in Babylon (Ezra 5:1-2). He was also a leader in the rebuilding of God's temple (Zech. 4:7-10). The Old Testament predicted that Christ, as a descendant of David, would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2; Matt. 2:4-6). Without the return from captivity, it would not have been possible for Christ to be born in Bethlehem. God's command that the captives return was not only for the rebuilding of the temple of God but also to prepare for Christ to be born in Bethlehem. Christ needed some people to be in the proper place to bring Him to earth the first time. Similarly, for His second coming Christ needs some of His people to return from their captivity to the proper church and Christ life to be manifested here on earth.

goshen360: ^^^
The words I have quoted are from the bible. I didn't quote if from my own head as you can see. Are we not called after Christ today? as in being called Christians, Acts 11:26.

Heb 8:13 NKJV,
In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Consider since the time this statement was made till now, we no longer practice animal sacrifices and all those stuffs in the old, do we?

The Laws of Moses had their penalties for not doing them. Because we do not observe them anymore, we are not bounded by them and the penalties attached to them. Remember, a woman was caught in the very act of adultery and the Law of Moses says she must be stoned to death. This is not to justify adultery but the soul of an adulterer is more important to God under the new testament because God does no longer desire that any should perish but that we come to repentance. One of the Purpose of the Law is to train God's people towards obedience to God, It doesn't make us perfect.

The Lord is not slack concerning [His] promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9, NKJV

basicaly the appearance of moses at the mount of transfiguration shows that Jesus came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it for us so that we who are not strong can no longer be under the law but under GRACE