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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:16pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Extremist alert!!! embarassed

There is freedom of speech, expression and worship. So you're not supposed to give orders to anyone, this is not your house! smiley


grin
Tell that to Ex-Jehovah witnesses who have gone into depression or sometimes suicide as a result of the extremist tactics of the JW organization where family members are shunned. You are trying to speak for your fellow Arian Heretic other cult group Islam where members who leave could get honor killing. You know you were once with them before you jumped to this present Arian Heretical JW organization that feeds off lies. You can join JW but to leave of your own free will or ask questions attracts repercussions. grin

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by RussellRutherfo: 8:17pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Extremist alert!
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by BlackFlamefromP: 8:17pm On Jul 25, 2021
I have known JW members to be one of the most peaceful, law abiding and well-behaved people you could ever meet, even though some their doctrines and beliefs can be funny. It's sad that Russian government is treating them this way. I hope they overcome the persecution.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Deadlytruth(m): 8:19pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
My God will bless you for this!

Putin is not the problem but jealous orthodox Churches who feels JWs have been talking too much about their evil deeds. They're the ones giving Putin their full support to attack JWs so as to silence them from exposing their evil deeds! smiley


Exposing evil deeds? You mustbe living in the assumption that JW is a saintly organization. Let me shock you,. do you know that JW openly endorsed Adolf Hitler's onslaught on Jews during the second World War? I don't even like like to bother you with a lot other evils JW has supported in its capacity as an organization.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by DavidEsq(m): 8:20pm On Jul 25, 2021
Vireani79:


They believe in the gospel but not the power therein
In other words, Putin believes in the power of the Gospel right?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Mechejy: 8:22pm On Jul 25, 2021
Jehovah’s Witness is a religion that behaves as if they recognized the lordship of Jesus Christ but in actuality have the spirit of anti christ. A jehova witness member can fight you, have a girlfriend or boy friend and still goes on their so called evangelism. They can tell lies at will and drinks a lot. They don’t know what is called holiness and righteousness. They believe in do me I do you God no go vex. I have my uncle as an elder their since 1970. Uptill date my uncle fights and if you remind him of what he did he replies and tell you that you are not jehova to judge him. Our landlord vowed that since 1990 no member of this sect would ever live in his house. They can bear enemity as long as you want it.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by franconian: 8:24pm On Jul 25, 2021
maximunimpact:


Sure they'll still come up with Bible verses to defend the new light, check out some examples below grin


Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?

Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes

Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No

Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes

Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No

Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes

Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No

Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes

Revelation book, p. 273 = No

Shifting the goal post is their hallmark and they have Bible verses to back up such inconsistencies. These inconsistencies originate from the governing body, to them every decision of the governing body is law. They interpret the Bible through the eye of the governing body.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by janvier27(m): 8:27pm On Jul 25, 2021
dapadawee:

I think the issues they have with Jehovah witness are 1. not involving in politics and preaching against it.
2. Not supporting the Russian military police or any defense and condemning it.
3. Refusing blood transfusion when it's obvious that one needed it to survive.
The major one is criticism of Russian nuclear programs

4. Not acknowledging or singing any national anthem and of course not saluting national flag

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Mechejy: 8:27pm On Jul 25, 2021
If you are a member of jehova witness better repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your lord and personal savior. Going around with bags and empty words thinking your effort in going about would save you is a false believe. You know exactly that you have your secret sins while still carrying your bags around. Preach Jesus as the savior of the world. Going about shouting jehova can’t save one because God ask us to call on the name of Jesus for our salvation

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by maximunimpact(m): 8:29pm On Jul 25, 2021
30naira:


I think you are getting it twisted. If someone chooses to die rather than accept blood transfusion, I think that is a choice they made. People have the right to such choices. The person wasn't denied right to life, the person chose to die instead. You are responsible for your religious belief, and have the right to such, as long as those beliefs are not a threat to another person.
If someone thinks taking blood is bad, they can choose not to, as long as that belief is not imposed on another person.

When a JWs insist on taking blood transfusion and eventually gets well, how does others treat them within the congragation?

Are they seen as Apostates?

Are they shunned for taking blood?

Or they welcomed back with open arms?

In the case of minors who's parents have to make the decision, shouldn't a child have right to life?

Don't answer me, just think about it

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by peacefulworld01(m): 8:30pm On Jul 25, 2021
franconian:


No, this ain't blackmailing.


First, JW consider anyone who is not a Witness an unbeliever. Other Christian denominations are collectively refered to as "Christendom" which of course are unbelievers.

Below is a Bible verse which they often refer to in their meetings:

2 Corinthians 6: 14 and 15 (New world Translation)
14 Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness?
15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever?

It does not matter if the unbeliever is a family member or not.





Let me ask you a honest question don't be offended.

If u were asked to use you mother or a relayive for human rituals by a close friend,would you do it?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by peacefulworld01(m): 8:31pm On Jul 25, 2021
franconian:


Shifting the goal post is their Hallmark and they have Bible verses to back up such inconsistencies. And these inconsistencies originate from the governing body, to them every decision of the governing body is law. They interpret the Bible through the eye of the governing body.
What is the definition of Christianity?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32pm On Jul 25, 2021
Let's assume they did back then as you're saying right now what made them the one and only Organization that remains neutral today? Matthew 5:11-12 smiley

Deadlytruth:

Exposing evil deeds? You mustbe living in the assumption that JW is a saintly organization. Let me shock you,. do you know that JW openly endorsed Adolf Hitler's onslaught on Jews during the second World War? I don't even like like to bother you with a lot other evils JW has supported in its capacity as an organization.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by maximunimpact(m): 8:33pm On Jul 25, 2021
franconian:


Shifting the goal post is their Hallmark and they have Bible verses to back up such inconsistencies. And these inconsistencies originate from the governing body, to them every decision of the governing body is law. They interpret the Bible through the eye of the governing body.

They have to accept all what they dish out because of the oath of allegiance they take before baptism, they are told that breaking that dedication vow will lead them to destruction at Armaggedon

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:35pm On Jul 25, 2021
You're welcome Ma/Sir smiley

Mechejy:
If you are a member of jehova witness better repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your lord and personal savior. Going around with bags and empty words thinking your effort in going about would save you is a false believe. You know exactly that you have your secret sins while still carrying your bags around. Preach Jesus as the savior of the world. Going about shouting jehova can’t save one because God ask us to call on the name of Jesus for our salvation
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by franconian: 8:39pm On Jul 25, 2021
peacefulworld01:

What is the definition of Christianity?

You can use Google for that.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Deadlytruth(m): 8:40pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Let's assume they did back then as you're saying right now what made them the one and only Organization that remains neutral today? Matthew 5:11-12 smiley

As of today, does the Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, and lots of others pledge allegiance to any political bloc in their capacity as religious organizations? Only their members do so as individuals and the Bible doesn't forbid that. Even some JWs show sympathy for certain political groupings in Nigeria just that for fear of being disfellowshiped they conceal such sympathies.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Ikpongiton: 8:40pm On Jul 25, 2021
I stand with Russian government on this one.jehovah witnesses are anti government organization.no serious government will condone their shits.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 8:44pm On Jul 25, 2021
Fiscus105:


Wen you are in government in u re part of the world right! But wen you don't belong but u do all sorts of immorality and atrocities you are not part of the world

I'm still looking for the day you shall know the truth, ur freedom is at hand that day

Or some even use the instrument available in the world to commit all these atrocities and still say they are not part of the world.

E get as e be for them.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jul 25, 2021
peacefulworld01:

No u are getting something wrong.
There is division even among scientists with regards to evolution,the human body for example is just too complex to give any link to prove that the evolution theory is valid,the human body contains millions of cells that function in a marvelous and designed manner that even prominent scientists estimated that the human brain is much more complex than a 1,000 super computers.(do u think this came by chance)

Have u ever seen a beautiful house built by nobody?if no what make you believe that an earth with millions of complex living and non living organisms,with a solar system that is so big and mysterious and houses billions upon billions of stars that even take a rocket travelling at speed of light so many of years to get to even Pluto,and thousands of years to even cross out of our own galaxy note the current rocket launched in 1970s to explore outer space having even gotten to the end of our solar system or crossed out milky way galaxy that contains earth,and there are so many millions of other galaxies.

All these came by chance.

Do you know that the Bible gave an answer to this and it harmonises with science in so many aspects
Genesis 1:11,12 says"that the grass and trees where made to produce each according to its kind verse 21,24,25 added that God created the sea creatures flying creatures

Don't u think u are been confused by so many false doctrines that's why you had given up on religion and the course of path to true christianity?

Lol. Bible. Hahaha.

Stop doing this to yourself.
Don't lead your kids in this path. They'll get lost.

The truth has been out for more than 3 centuries but you chose thoughtlessness. Sorry!!

7 year old me won't spit that trash you just dropped.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by ejimatic: 8:46pm On Jul 25, 2021
worlexy:
Many people have died from the extremist’s view of Jehovah witness that their members should not receive blood transfusion because of the twisted Bible verse that children of God should not drink the blood of animals like the occultists do.

How does drinking animal blood and receiving blood transfusion to save one’s life be interpreted as the same?

Jehovah witness should stop this extremism and allow people live.


Blood loss is the number killer of women during childbirth in this part of the world, and to reduce or stop death from blood loss is by blood transfusion which the teachings of JW stand against and this has been leading many into early grave.
. I disagree with your opinion about witnesses on blood transfusion .JWs respect lives and have respect for sactity of life as required from the scripture Everybody whether JW or not will decide on what to believe and how to exercise his belief and the form of treatment desired .I have found out that JWS don't scripturally accept blood transfusion but accept various non blood treatments Many of these have been accepted by medical doctors all over the world as the best forms of treatment.Adsitionally lack of blood transfusion is not a major kiiler in medicine but complication in ones treatment. Modern medicine has even see a lot dangers in blood transfusion and prefers alternative to blood transfusion If JWs do not accept blood transfusion on a scriptural ground it does not make them extremists.In my opinion their belief must be respected as long as they are not forcing anybody to do so.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 8:46pm On Jul 25, 2021
Naustine:
Im not a Jehovah witness but those people are one of the most peace loving folks I've ever seen. Been close to many. They are usually very nice and kind

They are also extremist

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 8:48pm On Jul 25, 2021
Takeproft:
I don't like JWs. But they're not extremists. Just some weird religious beliefs

Those weird beliefs are what makes them extremist.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 8:48pm On Jul 25, 2021
ejimatic:
. I disagree with your opinion about witnesses on blood transfusion .JWs respect lives and have respect for sactity of life as required from the scripture Everybody whether JW or not will decide on what to believe and how to exercise his belief and the form of treatment desired .I have found out that JWS don't scripturally accept blood transfusion but accept various non blood treatments Many of these have been accepted by medical doctors all over the world as the best forms of treatment.Adsitionally lack of blood transfusion is not a major kiiler in medicine but complication in ones treatment. Modern medicine has even see a lot dangers in blood transfusion and prefers alternative to blood transfusion If JWs do not accept blood transfusion on a scriptural ground it does not make them extremists.In my opinion their belief must be respected as long as they are not forcing anybody to do so.
Go and find out the commonest cause of maternal death in subsaharan Africa

Give me the scriptural reference where God said you shouldn’t be transfused with blood.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 8:50pm On Jul 25, 2021
Regie2bless:
we dont take blood or eat it as food because is a thing detestable by Jehovah God, Jehovah witnesses are opened to other medical advances, but not taking of blood.
Where did God say that you shouldn’t refuse blood transfusion?

Not drinking blood of animals is not the same as not receiving blood transfusion
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Vireani79: 8:50pm On Jul 25, 2021
DavidEsq:

In other words, Putin believes in the power of the Gospel right?

What are u saying.
Is Putin the topic or JW people
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 8:52pm On Jul 25, 2021
worlexy:

You’re right. But you can only blame the followers who have refused to read the scriptures by themselves and free themselves from the lies of their deceptive leaders

They followers are unduly influenced. There are no different from followers of Islam extremist who refused to read that violence is not the way. It's undue influence by the religious leaders that makes the followers behave the way they do. The catch is, while the leaders will claim the followers will make their own decision, if a follower decides to accept blood, the follower is punished.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 8:55pm On Jul 25, 2021
peacefulworld01:

What make you feel Jehovah witnesses are terrorists.
I never made the claim that JEW are terrorist, stop being mischievous.



Don't you know there are bloodless surgery operations
Go and read about the commonest cause of maternal death in sub Saharan Africa


don't u even know that blood transfusion isn't completely safe.

Mention one thing that is completely safe in this world!
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 8:56pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:


They followers are unduly influenced. There are no different from followers of Islam extremist who refused to read that violence is not the way. It's undue influence by the religious leaders that makes the followers behave the way they do. The catch is, while the leaders will claim the followers will make their own decision, if a follower decides to accept blood, the follower is punished.
You’re right. May God help us

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 8:57pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Fiscus105 post=104084024:



Ur extreme doctrine that forbids involvement in politics /joining government of any country is result of what you are seeing now, when you are in government of any country, you form part of decisions makers and you cannot sit in round table where they will take extreme measures again ur faith.
The highlighted is where the problem is!

All politicians on this planet belongs to one Organization that's been our rival from the beginning so there's no time we can become friendly with this worldly Organization.

So it's one Organization against another Organization! smiley

Examples
Daniel, who was a minister in Babylon. He wasn't just a minister but also made way for his 3 companions to become ministers too.

An Ethiopian eunuch who was a high ranking court official in a pagan country. He accepted Christ, got baptised and went on his way. The Holy spirit didn't asked he should resigned before baptism, as your watchtower religion would have.

Should I give more examples? You have everything in the Bible backwards bro.

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