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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 8:58pm On Jul 25, 2021
mu2sa2:
But many Christians hate JW people - why? Putting is a Christian too.

JWs hate Christians more.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 8:59pm On Jul 25, 2021
aribisala0:


You are correct but many more have died from mainstream or orthodox Christianity and Islam
Let us not forget that the catholic church endorsed the slave trade
We have heard of forced abortions and sterilizations etc not not mention pedophilia

The problem is when people say things such as what you said they are reluctant to look at their own sect or religion objectively
Unfortunately unlike Jehovah witness that claim they are obeying the law of God, those that promote forced abortions and other evil don’t quote the scriptures to back up their delusions.

Eating or drinking blood of animals is not the same as blood transfusion.

God never spoke against blood transfusion!

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by loliapoopy2013(f): 9:00pm On Jul 25, 2021
worlexy:
Many people have died from the extremist’s view of Jehovah witness that their members should not receive blood transfusion because of the twisted Bible verse that children of God should not drink the blood of animals like the occultists do.

How does drinking animal blood and receiving blood transfusion to save one’s life be interpreted as the same?

Jehovah witness should stop this extremism and allow people live.


Blood loss is the number killer of women during childbirth in this part of the world, and to reduce or stop death from blood loss is by blood transfusion which the teachings of JW stand against and this has been leading many into early grave.

Is blood transfusion the reason why Russian government is persecuting the witnesses? Have you gone round our hospitals to see the rate of maternal and infant mortality because of lack of simple things like no doc, water, light, medicine and quack nurses etc. Is blood transfusion the cure to cancer, malaria, typhoid and other treatable illments that we are clueless about killing us daily? Is blood transfusions the hardship, violent crime, kidnapping, insecurities taking People's life daily? My bros, God is the source of life and, and will restore life back to the person who looses it due to blood issues. Medicals have advanced. Complicated surgeries are done even without blood in advanced countries. Our medicine should advance too.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Deadlytruth(m): 9:00pm On Jul 25, 2021
Trustedpronet:


Kindly Google about those that was infected with dangerous diseases through blood transfusion. The world is confuse that they can't deferentiat between good and evil.

My final year project was about a research on how medicines taken to cure certain diseases could actually worsen those diseases or bring about an entirely new disease in addition to the one it is meant to cure but failed to. And my research discovered lots of such medicines. So why haven't JWs stopped taking medications?

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:00pm On Jul 25, 2021
DappaD:


You said you are 17 therefore you should know how to address those who might be older than you times two figures.

The Catholic Church being politically active resulted in over a 100million casualties during the first and second world war.
The Jehovah’s Witnesses being politically neutral continues to have a zero(0) casualty figure during those wars.

Can you tell me who is more bloodguilty between those are dining with politicians or those who choose not to participate in politics? Hint: Revelation 18:24

You said you are 17 therefore you should know how to address those who might be older than you times two figures

Based on age disclosure by the poster counselling start to fly right, left, center.

But you at age +/- age 50 do you do so to those +/- your age abi?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:04pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
GB are working with the Most intelligent Being in the whole universe, no scientist can be ahead of them in issues relating to health! smiley


Whose guidelines are your Governing Body using to curb spread of COVID-19?

Which guidelines used today are the names of the GB attached to?

WA Shaa boast! The room plenty well well to boast grin
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05pm On Jul 25, 2021
Deadlytruth:

As of today, does the Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, and lots of others pledge allegiance to any political bloc in their capacity as religious organizations? Only their members do so as individuals and the Bible doesn't forbid that. Even some JWs show sympathy for certain political groupings in Nigeria just that for fear of being disfellowshiped they conceal such sympathies.

Please the bolded!
Can you tell me how fellow believers in Christ will not kill themselves during political struggles?
And does the scriptures support such in the midst of Christians? John 13:34-35 smiley
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by WibusJaga: 9:05pm On Jul 25, 2021
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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:07pm On Jul 25, 2021
maximunimpact:


Lols

Thesame GB that is discouraging higher education because Armaggedon is around the corner.

Give me a break grin

I want him to be your guests so you can tell him more.

Like creating ZOOM for meetings so that they can easily self isolate grin grin
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:08pm On Jul 25, 2021
Trustedpronet:
The end is very near. May Jah strengthen the faithful brothers and sisters. This is not different from what buhari is doing in Nigeria, going after Igboho and namdi KANU while negating the activities of bandits and fulani herdsmen.

Guy, the end is always around the corner for more than 130 years. Funny that when something is around the corner, you keep going in circles. If you are smart, don't take the words of the prophets in bethel for it, follow their examples. What do I mean?

For a religion that believes the end is just around the corner but is planning a media center that will not be completed in the next 8 years, you really should be asking if these people really believe their message.

Everyone knows the world is going into video media. It has been over the past 10 years. People don't read much these day but prefer short video. Therefore, building a big media center is very profitable to the religion as they would sell it off in the future. That was the same thing they did in 1975, while they were encouraging their members to ignore schools, pioneer etc. They were investing in real estate, which they later sold in the early 2010s, made billions and moved on.

Invest in your future, nothing is going to happen. Go to school if you have not, send your children to school, invest in lands, real estate, cryptos etc. If you are smart enough, you will see that your religion is already accepting payment in cryptos.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by worlexy(m): 9:09pm On Jul 25, 2021
loliapoopy2013:


Is blood transfusion the reason why Russian government is persecuting the witnesses? Have you gone round our hospitals to see the rate of maternal and infant mortality because of lack of simple things like no doc, water, light, medicine and quack nurses etc. Is blood transfusion the cure to cancer, malaria, typhoid and other treatable illments that we are clueless about killing us daily? Is blood transfusions the hardship, violent crime, kidnapping, insecurities taking People's life daily? My bros, God is the source of life and, and will restore life back to the person who looses it due to blood issues. Medicals have advanced. Complicated surgeries are done even without blood in advanced countries. Our medicine should advance too.
Ok
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:10pm On Jul 25, 2021
CrazyGranddad:
Jehovah's Witnesses are one of the most peaceful Christian communities you can find anywhere and what is happening to them in Russia is a shock. But the bible in James 1 says “My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.” They will come forth victorious in time.

JWs kill more with the pen than any other religion.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:11pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
My God will bless you for this!

Putin is not the problem but jealous orthodox Churches who feels JWs have been talking too much about their evil deeds. They're the ones giving Putin their full support to attack JWs so as to silence them from exposing their evil deeds! smiley


So Putin is like a lapdog who is control others?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:13pm On Jul 25, 2021
achorladey:


Whose guidelines are your Governing Body using to curb spread of COVID-19?

Which guidelines used today are the names of the GB attached to?

WA Shaa boast! The room plenty well well to boast grin

CDC but it's spirit directed, you know? grin

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:13pm On Jul 25, 2021
maximunimpact:


All this effort just to defend 8-men-team that decides for 8million people how to care for their medical needs.

It's a rude surprise for grown ups to give up their thinking brain for some old men that runs the ORGANIZATION

You for ask am if those links and write up in those links are owned and managed by his religious leaders.

You know they are the best in health related issues as they work with Jehovah directly grin

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Fiscus105(m): 9:13pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:


Examples
Daniel, who was a minister in Babylon. He wasn't just a minister but also made way for his 3 companions to become ministers too.

An Ethiopian eunuch who was a high ranking court official in a pagan country. He accepted Christ, got baptised and went on his way. The Holy spirit didn't asked he should resigned before baptism, as your watchtower religion would have.

Should I give more examples? You have everything in the Bible backwards bro.


U can see I didn't disturb myself to answer him, Notting can be done for a man that has completely brainwashed, he thinks nothing outside corner he has been boxed.

I would have asked him to do research on a nation in Europe called Turkey ......a predominantly Christian country turned predominantly Muslim nation. Today other faith impose how and what to do for insignificant Christians that are still available in the land.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:

Examples
Daniel, who was a minister in Babylon. He wasn't just a minister but also made way for his 3 companions to become ministers too.
An Ethiopian eunuch who was a high ranking court official in a pagan country. He accepted Christ, got baptised and went on his way. The Holy spirit didn't asked he should resigned before baptism, as your watchtower religion would have.
Should I give more examples? You have everything in the Bible backwards bro.
Before Christ God's servants do participate in Politics but after Jesus' departure they began preaching and teaching about God's kingdom and they decline all political seats.
That's why you can't hear of any of the overseers back then who is a politician!
Use your senses in this, if Jesus followers do participate in the first century politics how do you think it will be easy for critics to continue persecuting them from place to place?

Please tell me any religious group whose member is in well known in the Senate or Reps that can be undermined! For your information gays are in the house in America that's why nobody can mistreat them! smiley
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by aribisala0(m): 9:14pm On Jul 25, 2021
worlexy:

Unfortunately unlike Jehovah witness that claim they are obeying the law of God, those that promote forced abortions and other evil don’t quote the scriptures to back up their delusions.

Eating or drinking blood of animals is not the same as blood transfusion.

God never spoke against blood transfusion!
You have conducted a study of "forced abortions and other evil" to substantiate these claims?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by ejimatic: 9:14pm On Jul 25, 2021
worlexy:

Go and find out the commonest cause of maternal death in subsaharan Africa

Give me the scriptural reference where God said you shouldn’t be transfused with blood.
. Gen 9 vrs 4, Act 15 vrs 20 ,29 Poor health facility is contributing to the maternal death in African unlike in the developed countries.Aditionallly many pregnant women because of poverty are tardy in seeking proper medical care until it is late to do so A proper antenatal care will forestall any childbirth complication during pregnancy. With good leaders in Africa child birth will be more pleasant in African like in the modern world .

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:14pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:


CDC but it's spirit directed, you know? grin

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by Deadlytruth(m): 9:15pm On Jul 25, 2021
haddeylium:

Voting is a constitutional right of every citizen, most especially in a democratic form of government.
Jehovah’s Witnesses totally RESPECT this arrangement and they never cause any problems or obstacles for other people to freely exercise their right.
However, JWs around the world have decided to VOTE not for HUMAN government but GOD's government in HEAVEN



Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain their worldwide unity by remaining neutral for religious reasons. As many of you are aware politics is a great divider of nations and creates a huge disunity even among close friends.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are following the example of Jesus and his Apostles in remaining neutral in politics.
Jesus refused one of the highest positions in any government. Jehovah’s Witnesses follow this patternsad“John 6:15)

Early Christians were loyal to God’s Kingdom. So are Jehovah’s Witnessessad2 Corinthians 5:20)

The bolded is a distortion of biblical truth through your group's attitude of interpreting one particular bible verse in isolation of the others. Jesus and his disciples were never politically neutral. Recall that when Jesus was just about to be taken back up to heaven His disciples asked him when the Kingdom of Israel would be restored to them the Israelites. This meant that his disciples were interested in how they were being governed politically by earthly government and wanted their own home political government as against the Roman imperialism. Now, did Jesus rebuke them for nursing such desire? Answer is no. Rather, Jesus replied that God would surely restore that earthly government to them but in due time.

Then somewhere else in the book of Romans or so, Paul was sending greetings to some members of the church there and he mentioned the city treasurer meaning that a man holding a political office in an earthly government was regarded as a worthy member of the body of Christ by Paul himself. I think the man's name is recorded as Chamberlain. Let me check up the details and edit accordingly.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:16pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Before Christ God's servants do participate in Politics but after Jesus' departure they began preaching and teaching about God's kingdom and they decline all political seats.
That's why you can't hear of any of the overseers back then who is a politician!
Use your senses in this, if Jesus followers do participate in the first century politics how do you think it will be easy for critics to continue persecuting them from place to place?

Please tell me any religious group whose member is in well known in the Senate or Reps that can be undermined! For your information gays are in the house in America that's why nobody can mistreat them! smiley




Ethiopian Eunuch was what?

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:18pm On Jul 25, 2021
Ayo2004:

The Catholic Church have their own shortcomings,no doubt.Propagating that citizens should not obey basic laws because of religous beliefs is just plain rubbish,I don't understand trying to use the Catholic Church to justify that.Jesus himself taught that we should give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar when he paid tax meaning he obeyed basic laws.

Is it even possible for a society to survive without politics?
Even in theocracy,your leaders will play politics
About the casualty part,many have died because of refusal to partake in blood transfusion (as a result of absurd religous beliefs) meaning JW is responsible for their deaths

You are ×2 older than me as you said,please,start reasoning like one

Even in theocracy,your leaders will play politics

Let me add to the above, whenever there are POSITIONS to be filled in an organisation or establishment, there will be POLITICS.

Nice response you have there.
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by amliftedhigher: 9:19pm On Jul 25, 2021
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:

So Putin is like a lapdog who is control others?

What does Pontius Pilate wanted to do with Jesus' case? Luke 23:16
What did he later do under pressure from Jewish politicians? John 19:12-18
So do not underestimate the power of religious leaders who can instigate the voters against you during election! smiley
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:24pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


What does Pontius Pilate wanted to do with Jesus' case? Luke 23:16
What did he later do under pressure from Jewish politicians? John 19:12-18
So do not underestimate the power of religious leaders who can instigate the voters against you during election! smiley
We are talking about president Putin, no plate. Do you have any evidence that these persecution were instigated by the church?
Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24pm On Jul 25, 2021
rottennaija:

Ethiopian Eunuch was what?

Wasn't a Christian who learnt Christianity from Jesus, so it's until he began learning about all the things Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:20} before he could become a full grown Christian in the spirit.
His baptism is a signal that he's fully prepared to start taking instructions from Jesus' disciples regarding what Jesus ordered them to do after he's convinced that Jesus is the long awaited Messiah! smiley

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by TemmyT002(m): 9:27pm On Jul 25, 2021
The true people of God.
The only group of people hated all over the world, especially by those who call themselves Christians.
By their fruits you shall know them.
If not because they don't like other gospel music, I would have joined them.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:27pm On Jul 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Wasn't a Christian who learnt Christianity from Jesus, so it's until he began learning about all the things Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:20} before he could become a full grown Christian in the spirit.
His baptism is a signal that he's fully prepared to start taking instructions from Jesus' disciples regarding what Jesus ordered them to do after he's convinced that Jesus is the long awaited Messiah! smiley
Super impositions. But no problem. So the Holy spirit who sent Philip to him couldn't tell him all those things, but had to wait till after baptism before? Let me ask you, would the eunuch be baptised as a jw today if he had not resigned from his position?

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by rottennaija(m): 9:28pm On Jul 25, 2021
TemmyT002:
The true people of God.
The only group of people hated all over the world, especially by those who call themselves Christians.
By their fruits you shall know them.
If not because they don't like other gospel music, I would have joined them.

JWs are not hated as much as they hate other religion. Don't deceive yourself.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:28pm On Jul 25, 2021
peacefulworld01:

Do you have a proof to show that Jehovah witnesses cause problems in families,or don't you think you are just blackmailing a peaceful group of people

Why not type it online as a topic or take it up as a research topic. Do your findings and present it here or to your religious leaders. You never can tell it might appear in the numerous publications printed every year.

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Re: Russia’s Mysterious Campaign Against Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 9:30pm On Jul 25, 2021
Ayo2004:

And what has your precious JW done about it other than preaching absurb religious doctrines that even Jesus never propagated?

They can't even lay claim to letter Z in the ZOOM app used for their meetings. Allow dem boast ooo. Na their way.

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