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| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:28pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:The topic already answered the question Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? The OP was mocking JW when he put as claimed That means the claim was wrong and evil from JW OP did not say as claimed by the Bible lol Now holy spirit put the sign under mark to show this is the mark of the children of God Mark 16:17 run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it JW can never have the sign of God |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MakotoShishio: 4:53pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Jesus is described as The Word of God who became Flesh: And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth. JOHN 1:14 If God is Eternal, His Word will be Eternal as well, If God is Divine, His Word will also be Divine, If God is to be obeyed, His Word is also worthy of obedience, If God is Uncreated, His Word is also Uncreated Therefore, if Jesus is the Word of God, Jesus is Eternal, Divine, Uncreated, Worthy of Obedience and therefore God in Human Form. DappaD: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:09pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
You lack comprehension! OP challenge JWs but we believe Jesus is Archangel Michael whether you like it or not! ![]() Bishopkingsley: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:12pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:you lack insight and you don't know English Some one mock you and you can't see it claim...... Meaning below Claim means - state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof. Claim means JW has no proof from the Bible. That Jesus is Angel Michael lol . Mark 16:17 run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it JW can never have the sign of God |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:31pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Michael is working in our midst so instead of arguing fruitlessly on letters why not present the WORKS of your Jesus? James 2:18-26 See the works of Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! ![]() Bishopkingsley:
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| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:35pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You don't have the works and the marks or sign of Jesus which is in Mark 16:17 |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Where is the WORK of your Jesus? See Archangel Michael in ACTION! Consider how many JW LIKES of this newly baptized couple that dedicated their llives to JEHOVAH under the captainship of our Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ! Those LIKES are from JWs who are following this group chat on Facebook! ![]()
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| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:39pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Oya show us the so called SIGN or MARK nah? ![]() Bishopkingsley: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:44pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Mark 16:17 This is the real sign which no JW has.............. Mark 16 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen. This sign no person in Jehovah's Witnesses has that sign in Mark 16:17 |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:51pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!! You no fit quote Bible reach my grandson so let's see the WORKS of your Jesus! ![]() Bishopkingsley: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:56pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:John 6:29 ► New International Version Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” New Living Translation Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.” You don't need to do anything once you believe Jesus is God God will empower you to bring out his works but the work of God is only to believe who Jesus is.... No place in the Bible that God said you should call Jesus Michael lol But God told you to call Jesus father, God, God with us |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:58pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
EVIDENCE to prove that Jesus is the Archangel Michael! ![]() MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by achorladey: 7:13pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
DappaD:When the above is applied to the organization you belong the person is termed MENTALLY DISEASED, INSANE, apostates ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by achorladey: 7:19pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:The us are himself and those who count themselves as steadfast in their own eyes. They definitely don't include members within their group of whom Max and Dap see as HYPOCRITE and both look such ones with suspicion ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by achorladey: 7:22pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:After calling the Op to reset his brain, he remembers his own brain need to return back to the topic of discussion ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MightySparrow: 7:24pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
DappaD:You have not really proven that Jesus is Michael. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Christianity is not a new revelation. It is a continuation of Paganism by another name. The gospel story of Jesus is not a biography. It is a Jewish reworking of ancient Pagan myths of the dying and resurrecting Godman Osiris-Dionysus, which had been popular for centuries throughout the ancient Mediterranean. The stories told about Osiris-Dionysus will sound familiar. He is the Son of God who is born to a virgin on the 25th of December before three shepherds. He is a prophet who offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism. He is a wonderworker who raises the dead and miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony. He is God incarnate who dies at Easter, sometimes through crucifixion, but who resurrects on the third day. He is a savior who offers his followers redemption through partaking in a meal of bread and wine, symbolic of his body and blood. The Jesus story is a synthesis of the Jewish belief of the Messiah with Pagan myths of the dying and resurrecting Godman. The conquests of Alexander the Great had turned the Mediterranean world into one culture with a common language. This created an age of eclecticism, much like our own, in which different spiritual traditions met and synthesized. Jewish mystics of this period, such as Philo Judeas, were obsessed with synthesizing Jewish and Pagan mythology. At the time, both Pagans and Christians were well aware that the Jesus story was a myth. The early Christians, known as Gnostics, understood the Jesus story as allegory, not history, and even called Jesus by the names of the Pagan Godman. The Gnostics were brutally eradicated by the Roman Church in the 4th and 5th centuries. The Gnostics had synthesized Jewish and Pagan mythology to produce the Jesus story and many other extraordinary Christian myths largely unknown today. The Roman Church was a later deviation, which misunderstood the Jesus story as history. It was, as the Gnostics said at the time, an imitation Church teaching a superficial Christianity designed for the masses. Roman Christianity, and all its subsequent offshoots, is based on the idea that if you believe in the existence of an historical Jesus you will go to heaven when you die. The historical figure of Jesus has been so central to Western culture that it is hard to question his existence. As soon as we hear his name we can see him in our mind's eye, in his flowing white robes, with long hair and a beard. Yet this picture of Jesus was not created until the 8th century. The fact is that everything we think we know about Jesus, like this romantic picture of the bearded savior, is a creation of the human imagination. Actually there is barely a shred of evidence for the existence of an historical Jesus and this dissolves on closer inspection. Paul, the earliest Christian source, shows no knowledge of an historical man, only a mystical Christ. The gospels have been thoroughly discredited as eyewitness reports. Other bits of traditional evidence, such as references to Jesus by the Jewish historian Josephus, have been shown to be later forgeries. If solid evidence had existed, there would have been no need to have created such fabrications. Perhaps within a generation people will look back at the beginning of the 21st century and be amazed that a culture with the technology to travel to the moon could see the fabulous story of Jesus as anything other than a myth. It is truly the greatest lie ever told, because it has been thousands of years in the making. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MightySparrow: 7:45pm On Jul 30, 2021*. Modified: 8:09am On Aug 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:All we demand from the studious is clear proof not conjectures. I once contributed on similar topic The making of archangel Michael Jesus to me doesn't have clear biblical inferences like that. Before the mention of the name Michael as related to an angel, people had been bearing Michael, NUM 13: 13; IChr. 5:14,. Ezra 8: 8 among others. The name means, ' who is like God?. It doesn't sound as ' one like God as JWs and SDA posited. Anyways, I am still doing research. I am not convinced.[qouted/] 1. Another one, Jesus is the Messager of the Covenant, what is the Message of the Covenant? 2. What covenant? 3. Another, How did He carry out the message? 4. Does ,' Who is like God?, translate to, ' One like God or God's incarnate? |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Do anyone need to defend anything here? I don't think so! Just hold tight to whatever your Papa taught you while i hold on what my GB taught me. If there's anything i'll like to discuss now it's WHY are your Churches having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines? And why are you not mentioning the name of your numerous different Churches yet you're all quick to come against JWs who only have a different beleive just the way all of you do? So whatever JWs believe is of no importance now since all your various Churches also have different beliefs! ![]() MightySparrow: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 8:44pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I can see your frustrations, you are pained because some Jehovah witnesses may read this post and begin to question your organisation let me tell you that yes many people will leave that darkness called Jehovah witness organisation as their eyes will be opened to the truth, your hate and insults cannot stop it. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 8:50pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:you mean the unity that is founded on threat of disfellowship, the hold Jehovah witness has on her members is fear and lies including showing hatred for christianity in their heart. I see how your magazine promote raw hate against Christians. Paul did not preach group, Jesus did not preach group neither did any other apostles they presented the truth of God's word. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 8:57pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
achorladey:I tell you, they only try to appear as stead fast they dont know they are deceiving themselves. Those Jehovah witness who are sincere and seeking for God quietly read and take note. That is why I believe that there many Jehovah witnesses out there who are honest that is why op wrote this post. Max and the rest are here trying to poison the well for others. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:Do you think that's my problem? ![]() When majority of the disciples left Jesus does it changes the truth that only one straight path leads to Paradise? John 6:66-68 Sorry you don't know that each person is responsible for building his own FAITH {Matthew 7:24-27; Galatians 6:5} in the truth, we're not just blown about by the wind! Isaiah 57:20 Meanwhile what is the name of your own Church since you called out another Church? ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:They did not PREACH group yet Jesus publicly said his own mother and brothers are not his real families for not believing the same thing as he does! Matthew 12:46-49 Go and PREACH your confusion to yourself! ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:Your stupidity is on the highest level! ![]() You called out a group out of over 42,000 groups claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. You hypocritically hid your own religion claiming you're a Christian when everyone knows that there are one thousand and one difference in the way churches worship and their beliefs! ![]() Now you're saying members of the religion you singled out of ten of thousands shouldn't come to expose your unquestionable stupidity. ![]() Why not present what you believe and see how many people will pick interest in your nonsense and ingredients? ![]() If you want to commit suicide better go and hang yourself now, because JWs are the one and only mountain that has been raised high above all other hills like your church that you're ashamed to mention {Micah 4:1-3 compare with Matthew 5:14-16} that's why all of you are converging with wicked intentions over our matter! Matthew 5:11-12 ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MightySparrow: 9:28pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Are you afraid to teach those of us church goers or have nothing to defend? |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 9:40pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:The name of my church is irrelevant since I dont present my church as the way to salvation, my church is not a religion unlike JWO that termed herself as the only true religion and way to heaven. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 9:43pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:[b] Jesus said anyone that does his father's will are his brethren, Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. He didnt preach group confused max |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by livingchrist(op): 9:45pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:hiding behind emojis to thrown tantrums and insults, your bitterness means nothing. I guess if you see me now you may decide to pull the trigger. |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
MightySparrow:My own personal findings about Jesus the Archangel Michael! ![]() MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:OK the highlighted is your problem, shey? ![]() Go and sue Jesus! John 14:6 ![]() |
| Re: Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
livingchrist:So all the over 42,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are all doing that will, shey? Keep deceiving yourself! ![]() |
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